Hope you were a good boy this year.

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I was a bad boy this year. I'm a bad boy every year. It's why the ladies love me.

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>>716450574
hot tbh

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Ladies dont like me, but I DO have wine for myself tomorrow. It is a nice Moscato, my favorite.

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Moscato was always my favorite kind of wine.

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is red hair ubermensch or untermensch?

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Untermensch.

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Deadsville.

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I have a fucking bedtime again

what the fuck is this shit

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Fuck it. I'll dump these again.

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Nigger

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It's dead. It's not my fault. It died of its own free will.

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Or rather, it died because you people neglected it.

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Like a small dog you locked in a cage and never fed.

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Merry Christmas, by the way.

>>716454836
This is the same type of art I make... Because i have absolutely no imagination talent or skill. Hate having a shitty brain

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>>716455056
Robert Crumb, one of the 20th century's most important cartoonists created abstract comics.

>>716455175
Nah i aint shitting on the style. Its just that im only able to draw abstract shit. Its not what i want to draw though

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>>716455459
Then draw what you want to draw. Abstraction is a very important and viable mode of creation both in fine arts and in commercial arts.

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>>716455555
Nah man. I've given up on art. I love doing it and i tried to improve everday but i just couldnt sit down and enjoy doing. I have an analistic and non creative personality. Instead of just drawing for fun, im always askin myself if everythin is perfect and overthinking it. Just wish I was born as more of a free-flow person. I just want to draw nigger brain

Also nice quints

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>>716456103
I don't draw or paint for fun. I do it because I have to.

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These were all done for fun though.

>>716456334
BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO TOM?!

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>>716456217
You do it as a job or what?

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>>716456555
It's not finished yet. It's a difficult comic to write because of the style and pacing.

>>716456583
I do it because I'll go mad if I don't.

merry christmas fool

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And now my serious stuff that I'm sure you'll all hate even more.

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>>716456103

This is me, doesn't stop me from doing it though.

I have to force myself to be brief, else I never get a complete idea across.

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>>716456676
Might sound stupid but I sorta envy you. I wish I had a drive that made it worth it to sit through the bullshit.

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>>716456902
You aren't the first person to say that and I still don't understand why anyone would do such a thing.

We came to jack off, not to look at shitty art

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>>716457115
I need to use drugs or I go mad myself. Would rather have something productive be the counter to it. Also would force me to improve.

i didn't come for either of those reasons

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>>716457455
I use to take drugs.

>>716457421
Then you should have stopped it from dying to begin with.

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I'm here because I'm waiting on katia to send me nudes tbh

>>716456676
Well, fuck me, then. I saved all those panels expecting a full story.

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>>716457587
Did it help you at all with your mental health? Some drugs can legitimately be helpful.

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>>716457667
There is going to be a full story. There are more pages, I'm just too lazy to photograph them and get them on my computer.

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>>716457765
Not really, no. They just helped me hide and forget.

you have my condolences

>>716451134
I was most certainly not. You gonna punish me daddy?

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>>716457867
Yeah that makes sense.
>>716458038
Also didnt even realize you were sculpture guy. Im fucking stupid.

Do I still get presents even if I was naughty this year?

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>>716458242
Why would that matter if I was the guy making the sculptures or not?

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>>716458242

Anyone done this before with another sub?

I want to so badly...

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>>716458425
It doesn't. I usually just lurk these threads to fap and I see you posting every once in a while. One of my first times posting.

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>>716458688
Well, I'm not sorry for ruining your masturbation time.

>>716459523
wtf are those things??

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>>716459565
Venuses.

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And now I'll post pictures of my pets starting with my big handsome boy.

attn gays

would you approach a dude with a plastic rainbow bracelet?

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>>716460445
I wouldn't approach anybody.

Image limit reached.

what the fuck why would you keep bugs as pets

>>716461749
Because they're adorable and cuddly and I love them.

>>716461804
but they're literally not

I have more, but the image limit prevents me from posting.

>>716462214
>>716462214
>>716462214
>>716462214

>>716462214
But they literally are. Why don't you try not being a bitch?

>>716459633
I dont understand why you are posting a venus

>>716462480
Because why wouldn't I?

>>716462372
why don't you be normal and get a pet that has feelings and can love you back wierdo

>>716462661
They love me as much as any other pet. And before you say dogs and such, I'll remind you that pets only love you because they depend on you for food, water, and shelter in addition to being terrified of you since, in their eyes, you're a big scary monster that could easily dash their brains out on a rock or something.

Insects literally lack the nervous system required to feel emotions.

>>716462883
>people actually think this way and try to reduce normal pets to literal insects that act purely on instinct

they literally don't know who you are

The relationship between my pets and myself is clearly established, I give them food, make sure they have water and that their tanks are clean, and other than that I leave them alone. They are not forced to interact with me in any way at all.

>>716462976
Is that so? Then why does the jumping spider have one of the most complex brains in the entire arthropod class? This includes octopodes, squids, etc. Why are roaches capable of being trained and exhibit resource allocation and preservation behavior?

>>716463149
I disagree to some extent. At this point I am a familiar thing to them. Not something that they would recognize in so far as "hey, that's a person who gives me food" but at the level of "that's a thing that sometimes is there and poses no threat to us."

>>716463313
Brains have different components that make up the psyche, just because someone is extremely caring doesn't make them smart and vice versa. Resource allocation and complex biology doesn't mean that it has the capacity to "feel".

>>716463313
but what kind of relationship is that? what's the point? they're gross too

Happy Christmas to you all.

The Euthalus sp. Red tarantula exhibits playful behavior. It constantly tunnels, arranges, and rearranges its surroundings, readily explores its environment, does not shy away from humans and will intentionally put itself in situations where the will need to be handled out of an innate curiosity. The peacock spider exhibits intricate colorful patterns and dances in mating ritual which scientists now believe is an appreciation for beauty, something that was thought of as only belonging to humans. Several species of spiders live communally.

>>716463575
Resource allocation and preservation to the point where they will determine what will rot the fastest so they can extend their resources for as long as possible. Roaches, spiders, snakes, etc. all have the capacity to feel basic emotions. Happiness, agitation, fear, these are emotions that almost all living things exhibit.

>>716464087
Nigga did you just lump snakes in with insects lmao

No, insects do not have the capacity to feel emotions. You're rejecting factual biology, stop being dumb.

this fucking thread lmao

>>716463638
What kind of relationship is it with any other animal that depends entirely upon you for its survival? What's the point of keeping fish or birds or dogs or anything else? And my pets are not gross, they're incredibly clean.

>>716464170
I'm literally not rejecting factual biology since factual biology shows, through PURE OBSERVATION ALONE that spiders exhibit fear and agitation like snakes, like roaches, like octopodes, like squids, like cows, like dogs, like cats and rhinos and fish and human beings.

When a spider is afraid it pulls its legs up close to its body to make itself as small a target as possible. When a spider is agitated it will raise its front legs and pedipalps and show its fangs. Hissing cockroaches have different kinds of hissing that signal different things, there is a defensive hissing that most people who keep them are familiar with, there is an angry hissing that the males produce when they are fighting.

Octopodes and some lizards change color based entirely on mood. Snakes also exhibit emotions, from the cobra's flaring of the hood to the rattlesnakes rattle.

Self preservation=/=emotion

>>716464441
boi have you ever owned a real pet before? yeah they depend on you to feed them and stuff, but that's any pet. the difference is that other animals can develop a relationship with you and be genuinely happy when you come home, etc.

and these >>716464703 are survival instincts in response to stress and agitation, the only things these creatures react to

It's about a bond you dunce.

My dogs will console me if I'm hurt or come to me for whatever reason.

Your fucking roach or spider will ditch you if they had a chance and felt like it.

furries arent people they are dog fuckers

Seriously, it's honestly backwards outdated thinking.

>>716465008
Literally what separates the fear a spider feels from the fear a human feels? Fear is fear is fear across the board.

>>716465008
I had a dog, yes. I don't want to talk about him though, he was put down last year after a stroke. I will say that my roaches don't run from me when I open their cage, Eric will crawl over the glass and look at me when I check in on him, my spiderlings will always walk to the side of the tank that faces me, no matter which way I turn it.

>>716465101
Your dog would also eat your face if given the opportunity. A dog and a cat are only your friend as long as you are feeding it and also not abusing it.

>>716465427
Some dogs might if their owners die and they have had no food for a month.

You have no idea what a real bond is. But that's not really all that surprising.

>>716465427
you're so fucking retarded

>>716465565
>>716465565
>>716465565
>>716465565
>>716465565

incoming 3 back to back posts about why we're wrong.

>>716465618
Do you expect anything different from someone who took a blow to the head.

>>716465427
jesus dude

the difference is that fear and instinct are the only things these creatures respond to

sorry about your dog though, that's rough. but they're likely just watching out of caution

no, it literally wouldn't.

>>716465565
And an ugly slope would know what a real bond is?

>>716465618
So you don't have a counter argument?

>>716465685
But literally the opposition to what I said that you all presented is "You don't even know lol."

>>716465782
Like dogs and cats, birds, cows, and even babies. The difference between my pets and all these other animals is a stigma against them. You think they're yucky so obviously they're not capable of anything complex.

>>716464984

>>716465941
but they're literally not capable of anything complex

>>716466382
Roaches can be trained, some spiders exhibit complicated mating rituals, and so on.

>>716466528
>what is conditioning
>what is instinct

Also, look at the web of the St. Andrew's Cross spider.

>>716466703
And yet almost all animals, including some spiders, roaches, etc. have an innate sense of beauty.

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150511-why-are-animals-so-beautiful

This is an article that goes into the evolution of beauty in the animal kingdom.

>innate sense of beauty

THIS NIGGA

JUST

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>716466893
what the fuck are you on about

>>716467071
It's not worth waiting your time. Keep reminding yourself that. He'll argue whatever his belief is until your tired and he'll call it a win when you just can't take it. Literally not worth the time.

What in the fuck is goin on here?

There's also the dung beetle that is capable of traveling at night based on the position of the stars, other spiders that will build webs in funnels that direct and amplify noise inwards, the common German roach will leave chemicals behind letting roaches that come later know exactly what can be consumed and what can't.

>>716467071
>>716467188
see >>716467026

Because instinct and evolution are the same as bonding and emotion.

This is all stuff that has been researched by entomologists and arachnologists.

Because human beings didn't evolve to form bonds and emotions and lack all forms of instinct.

>>716467313
>>716467515
nigga we're talking about why bugs aren't real pets

>>716467612
They're as real a pet as a dog, a turtle, a fish, a cat, a ferret, a hamster, etc.

>>716467222
Ugh you're right.

>>716467738
Happy Christmas though.
Be good and do nice things.

>>716467818
Yeah merry Christmas. I've been a grinch all day because all of my usual friends are off with their families, but mine didn't get together this year.

Also, the actual definition of pet supports pretty much anything being capable of being a pet.

Noun
>a domestic or tamed animal or bird kept for companionship or pleasure and treated with care and affection

Adjective
>denoting a thing that one devotes special attention to or feels particularly strongly about.

And apparently birds aren't animals.

>>716468058
We will let you believe what you want now. You can stop defending yourself. We won't harm you in your safe space today.

>>716468052
That's sad, but that means more time to yourself, yeah? You can relax and enjoy the holiday.

>>716468222
I know it's difficult for some Chinese worker drone to allow freedom of thought regularly, but I don't need your permission to think what I want. I also have scientific back up supporting my position.

What?
I'm not Chinese.

>>716468375
>scientific back up supporting my position

nigga all you did was go off topic and talk about mating rituals and shit

Vietnamese, Korean, Cambodian, whatever horrible South East Asian country you're from.

>>716468524
Yes, because apparently arthropods, specifically arachnids and roaches aren't capable of any sort of complex behavior, which is factually incorrect.

>>716468524
He's fucking nuts. What do you expect?

>>716468655
yeah sure they can exhibit complex BEHAVIOR like build a web, but they're ingrained with the instinct to do that from birth, it's hard wired and a robotic process for them

they are not capable of complex THOUGHT PROCESSES and emotion, and no reacting to stress does not count

It's like watching one of those kids at school who accidentally solved a rubix cube and suddenly thinks they're a hypergenius.

neato

>>716468766
I'm not nuts, I'm perfectly sane. I require no medications to function properly, have healthy relationships with both my family and friends, and I have a steady job which allows me to not only live on my own and pay my bills, but also engage in leisure activities.

>>716468991
Yes, reacting to stress does in fact count. It counts in human beings, dogs, cat, cows, birds, snakes, etc. Again, it's the stigma against insects and arachnids that informs your opinion.

>>716469103
And by "accidentally solved a rubix cube" you mean is able to create a well thought out and informed opinion about a subject and hold a conversation about it. Because that's what I do. I research articles by experts in the field to inform my ideas.

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>>716469558
real neato

Steady job that allows leisure? You're a waiter. That's not a job that enables luxury.

>>716469407
>And by "accidentally solved a rubix cube" you mean is able to create a well thought out and informed opinion about a subject and hold a conversation about it.

No he means someone who doesn't know where someone is from and says "Vietnamese, Korean, Cambodian, whatever horrible South East Asian country you're from." and ties to leave it at that. Wow such a highly educated conclusion.

I know you flip flop a lot but within three posts? Come on.

>>716469407
no, if the only driving force behind its behavior is instinct (food, water, sense of danger, etc.), it is not functioning on any significant level for human interaction

It's easier to just think spiders don't have any complex thought processes because they're scary to most people. It's easier to think roaches are yucky disease carrying bugs that aren't capable of anything but being gross. I get that, it's a bias that most people have. It's fine if you think that, you're wrong objectively, but that's the thing about fears and biases, they're not founded on rational thinking.

And before you say I'm being arrogant or whatever, I also have biases and phobias that I know are entirely irrational, yet I still have them. I'm utterly terrified of flying, roller coasters, bees, wasps, hornets, and needles.

>>716469683
I'm a waiter that took several out of state vacations this year alone, bought my own car outright, has a rather sizable record collection, and has zero dollars in debt.

I say some sort of horrible and so on because I have seen only one blurry picture of you months ago that I can't quite remember and also I don't like you.

>>716469932
>Horses, cows, birds, reptiles, canines, felines
Literally all animals are based on food, water, sense of danger, etc. including humans.

I also took off two weeks for Christmas/New Years, have a large collection of books, visit museums regularly, have a sizeable film collection, and go to any concert/film screening I want. I am capable of all this without fear of financial constraints. It's also not like I work a lot either. I work five days a week tops, and a full work week for me is less than 40 hours. I walk out the door with a minimum of 100 dollars cash in hand plus draw a pay check.

>>716470174
the keyword here is "only". they only act on instinct. the difference is that we humans and other higher functioning animals have more driving us than instinct, such as the ability to develop relationships.

>>716470174
>bought my own car outright

Strange. I remember just the other day you said your family was trying to get you to buy a car but you didn't want to for x reasons.

Another lie lumps onto the pile.

>>716470597
But that isn't true. Also, many arachnids, roaches, etc. develop relationships with other species and each other. There are spiders that live in large colonies, all roaches live in groups, there are tiny mites that live hissers that clean them in exchange for a place to live/food. Your supposedly complex human processes are just processes that a lot of other lower species animals have as well, just scaled up to our level. Tool making and use? What is that other than a web? Then there is the trap door spider that makes trip wires which act as an alarm system.

>>716470898
No, I literally said they were trying to get me to buy a house and that I didn't want to for reasons I already went over when I talked about it days ago.

Fuck you, you stupid piece of trash. Go kill youself instead of spamming threads you asshole

>>716470984
Oh yeah.
My bad.

There are ants that create rafts during floods, birds play with each other and use sticks to prod holes for grubs, and so on.

>>716470984

retarded psuedo-intellect showing hard here, please take your dumbass incorrect knowledge about animals (they do not have feelings or complex thought processes in the way that humans do, they do not reason, you are literally ignorant and incorrect) and stick them as far up your asshole as your can manage

also you think about things literally no one cares about, please stop, you're wasting the global oxygen supply

>>716471284
So your counter is "nuh-uh you are a stupid head" instead of actually trying to refute what I said? Again, biases, irrational thinking, etc.

There's a difference in between being interesting and being irritating to get attention.

>>716470984
again, instinct. i'll give you the point for symbiotic relationships, but it's not to say that they agree upon something, the mites eat stuff they find on the larger creature and it's just like "yeah ok". are you arguing that just because something lives in a colony that it is capable of building relationships and complex thought processes? what about ants? literally a hivemind.

>>716471385

>using words inappropriately that he doesn't understand
>thinks his argument deserves rebuttal

i wouldn't bother refuting you for the same reason i wouldn't refute a seventh day adventist

im simply asking that you stop pretending you're intelligent and spreading incorrect information

>>716471512
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>>716471501
And what are humans living within a culture other than a hive mind?

>>716471512
I'm not spreading incorrect information and I understand fully what I am saying. It doesn't deserve refutation because there can't actually be a refutation. It's based on actual research conducted by experts in their respective fields.

>>716471720
literally the very argument we are having right now makes this not a hive mind

>>716471720

that is exactly how the irrational think and i find it hilarious that you literally just posted that

also, no, it is not, the finding of 'experts in the field' is not at all what you are claiming it to be, although i'm sure its very convenient to be able to convince yourself that science says whatever you want it to

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>>716471961

Listen faggot, extreme spam like this is against the rules. Even on /b/. You literally ruined this hole thread. That's something the spiderman and banana posters hardly archive. So next time I see you, I'll report every single post of yours. Either you get banned, or I will. But this shit has to fucking end.

>>716472264

literally shut up faggot no one cares and no, it is not against the rules, this is /b/ and you are literally worthless

eat shit and enjoy you whiney bitch boy

>>716472264
also your threads are gay as fuck and no one likes fags anyway except other worthless fags lmao

kys

>>716460445
no, too gay