How do we stop future school shootings like Columbine?

Ban guns

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>>716288978
we don't we make them happen

>>716288978
> no guns
> no school shootings
> less gun related crime
But muh freedums and muh rights and need to own a murder tool, I live in a gun free nation, never seen one, never needed one.

Doing more porn less guns

>>716288978
Ban School Shootings

>>716288978
Ban Marilyn Manson

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>>716288978
just remove schools

>>716288978
Ban video games

>>716288978
stop blackmailing?

Ban murder

nuke all the schools obviously

>>716288978
Ban German music

Simple, we ban public schools.

Recognise the 11'000 deaths by firearm you have each year and ban guns.

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>>716289660

Just leave it up to natural selection

>>716289403
Ban schools

>public school systems
its a fucking mess. Teacher unions, overcrowding, and CommonCore. Honestly, homeschooling 13hrs a week yields better results than public education. Add some foreign languages into the mix and don't promote any specific language (English or Spanish or Whatever), and fuck it all. Worst off, the teachers will begin to help only the slowest/dumbest ones in the class.

Public schools are nothing more than daycare required by the state.

>>716289145
Ban school

>>716289145
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>>716288978

Stop bullying.

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abolish the state.

>millions dead from countries that forced their citizens to give up their right to defend themselves
>hundreds dead from school shootings
>ban guns

>>716289789
We'll since I'm too busy working 40+ hours a week I'll just go ahead and let public school take care of it.
I'm curious about what your particular criticisms are of common core. I live in Texas, so it's a non issue (our schools are garbage without it, but mostly because Texas education board wants Moses in our history books).

>>716290175
If I had children, I dont want them to be taught by some government approved teacher who is going to brainwash my kid with some liberal pc bullshit.

>>716288978
By letting the natural hierarchy be free to assert itself. The weak should fear the strong, and the strong WILL express themselves, even if it means slaughtering their peers.

>>716290345
exactly abolish the state.

>>716288978
Ban schools.

>>716290477
Are you saying Dylan and Eric were strong?
Lmao, weak ass pussies had to resort to shooting innocent people just to show how badass they are.

>>716290345
OK but that didn't really answer my question. Everything I've seen of common core has been mostly related to math, and I think some of the different ways they teach it are actually pretty neat. Not sure why you think common core means liberalism, unless you're a nut job who believes in creationism.

Maybe we could try to figure out the factors that are driving young men to decide that their lives are such meaningless dead-ends that the greatest achievement they can hope for is to die in a blaze of false glory?

Stop the media frenzy that happens after every shooting. Putting these assholes down in history and having a candlelight vigil every year just gives them the infamy they craved.

>>716290626
All that could be done through homeschooling/private schools that provide more professional education.

>>716290761
but it's sooooo much easier to blame guns! Please?!

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>>716288978
free escort for every new student, free escort for the best student each month and 3 cops for each school defense

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ABOLISH THE STATE!

>>716290837
richcunt alert

>>716290837
I don't think you're understanding my question. I wanted to know, what in particular do you dislike about common core teaching methods? Like I said, it doesn't get used in my state, so all I ever see are memes.

>>716290598
It depends on how you define strength. They got what they wanted, regardless of the consequences. At certain angles (from an individualistic self assertive standpoint), that's strong, while at others (from an ethical emotional standpoint), it's as weak as it gets. Not everyone is violent because of insecurity if you think that's why they did what they did. That's a liberal belief. They were psychopathic.

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>>716289145
this.

>>716289789
Then what is your proposal?
>education for rich people only
>middle and low class can work as cleaners

>>716289300
but if i'm not free to murder people, how am i truly free?

Just be nice to the quiet white kid. You'll be fine.

>>716291613
You are free to do so. You could do it right now.

>>716289145
Exactly, look how well that has worked to stop drugs, booze and piracy.

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>>716289403
>creationism
>keep guns, remove schools
hurray! more dumbass retards with military weapons!

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>>716289145
Oh boy simplicity in its purest form. Yes that will work so well. Oh geez everything will be peaceful. It'll be like prohibition. People will make their own or find a way of getting them.

>>716291613
Just be ready to face the consequences when you kill someone whenever you want.

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>>716291746
>best argument ever
so why not also make murder legal? people still murder even if it's illegal. just make school shootings legal. just look how well banning school shootings has worked to stop them.

I'm going to be straightforward here. We need guns in the general population. It is literally the reason we were never met with an assault on the western half of the USA during ww2. Now I'm not totally for or saying non at all for gun control but I am saying if everyone has a gun, and all the teachers have guns. Well now you have a 30v1 fire fight and your sure to lose. Long story short we need guns and a polite society is always armed.

just don´t ... because it´s fucking hilarious

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>>716288978
instead of banning guns, just make the schools into prisons for the "freest" people in the world! oh wait, they've already done that.

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>>716288978
You don't, let it happen. Natural Selection will take place including the shooters

We need to look to the other countries who've set examples on how to deal with school shootings and how to prevent them. Banning guns isn't gonna solve it.

>>716291553
^retard

>>716289366
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>>716289145

this

Do the same thing we did to solve the rare occurrence of school fires. Instead of being retards and "banning guns" we took measures to make all schools flame retardant. So why is it so crazy to think we take steps to protect schools from shooters. Cops on school grounds, ability to remotely lock down areas of the school, etc.

Removing the essential liberties of a free nation is not the solution. Only children desire a false sense of security over freedom.

Link Related. People will use the best tool availble.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenpeng_Village_Primary_School_stabbing

>>716289789

i agree the western education system sucks, especially life at school. it doesn't do anyone good.

Ban the kids from school. If there is nobody at school to shoot then we will stop having school shootings

>>716289300
What makes you think seizing guns stops anyone from actually owning one?

Every felon in the ghettos of any nation has a gun regardless of their gun laws. When you have nothing to lose, getting caught with a gun is the least of your worries.

There are no school shootings in the USA. Schools are "Gun Free Zones", so it's impossible.

>>716288978
Campus carry

>>716288978

you have parents that pay attention to what the fuck their kids are doing.

Definitely ban video games.

>>716295142
Why has no one else said this?

>>716295142
>A bunch of amateur gun users with no professional training will be able to properly assess and deal with a school shooting situation.

>>716295142
This has been proven to work. A school shooter came on campus (I can't remember which college) and a student shot that fucker dead.

The best part is that the school had banned guns and he was carrying illegally. No prosecution for him though of course because he saved everyone's ass.

>>716295552
Because most school shootings are in high schools where kids are not legally old enough to own firearms let alone carry them.

>>716295632
So why not make it legal to have guns but pass a rigorous gun safety and training course in order to get a concealed carry license for minors?

>>716295554
What makes you assume these people have no training?

I'm college age and I've been shooting for years and trained with professionals. Most other people that carry guns have been taught by very experienced people and they have respect for their weapon.

Of course there's idiots in every circle. Natural selection will kill them off

>>716295554
Yep.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/01/hero-principal-stops-school-shooting-video/

http://www.denverpost.com/2013/12/14/arapahoe-high-school-shooting-gunman-intended-to-harm-many-at-school/

http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/03/do-civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/?utm_term=.bb8feb25a307

>>716295617
And if more people start carrying, then how do you tell who's the shooter and who's got their gun out to try and save the day?

>>716295554
>not getting safety training in order to carry a gun

>>716295786
Not training with the weapon, training with the situations

>>716295771
I'm pro gun but I wouldn't trust my young idiot self to carry a gun in high school. Maybe when I was a senior. Probably just need more school security instead of students carrying pistols. You know there will be fuck heads showing off their pistol at lunch and all that shit.

Most high schoolers don't understand consequences for their actions.

>>716295852
>republicans are actively trying to remove the requirement for permits to conceal carry

>>716295771
Well how young do we go? I generally don't believe giving kids guns unsupervised is a good idea. I am 100% for adult gun rights, but honestly looking back at 15 16 17 years old do you really think kids were mature enough to be carrying firearms? I don't think kids going through hormonal changes are always the most forward thinking and level headed. I am all for Teachers concealed carrying or armed officers who take training courses.

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>>716288978
Every student must be naked ay school. The school will supply everything so no backpacks either. I also just solved the drug problem too.

>>716295818
Why do people always use this retarded wild west esque concept. Its simple the guy shooting at unarmed innocent people is bad, the one shooting at that guy isn't bad. Seriously, there is a reason you don't hear about these wild shootouts outside of hollywood.

>>716289300
Most guns that kill arent registered

>>716295077
But school shooters all obtained their guns legally.
Imagine if they went into the ghetto and tried buying guns off actual criminals? They'd be robbed and raped in minutes
Ghetto gangstas shoot other ghetto gangstas
Kids with legally owned guns kill other kids
Its all quite logical if you think about it

>>716296038
prison pocket. checkmate putin

ban niggers.

>>716296145
I'm rather certain the columbine shooters were asian actually

>>716289300
but do you have niggers in your country?

>>716296131
Lol what?!?! You think the columbine shooters were legally allowed to own guns?
Its literally ILLOGICAL you have draw this wild connection and think it means something.

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>>716296136
Mandatory buttplug. Teachers will check to see it is in place. Checkmate britbong.

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>>716288978
Close all schools in the usa, workplaces too.
Then "workplace violence" and "school shootings" become impossible...
Problem, little usa?

>>716296284
Oh yes

>>716294610
>>716291553
>>716289836
>>716289145
fucking retards

>>716296313
what country is it?

>>716296297
kek. problem solved

Give everyone a gun so they can defend themselves in case a shooting occurs

>>716288978
Well, this is a tricky one. Most stupid people will say "Ban guns," but those people are retarded, so moving on.

Second would be to improve the social atmosphere and parental involvement in the homestead, but that would involve parents actually... y'know... PARENTING, which clearly isn't going to happen any time soon, so, moving on.

Best I can think of is a better system of evaluation and observation in schools. Smaller class sizes, better teacher-student interaction, improving the overall quality of the school-going experience, but that would basically require a revamp and overhaul of the entire school system, and lord knows THAT'S never gonna happen. If it was good enough for dumbass farmers in the 1700's, it's good enough for the kids of today who probably know more about the electronic tools and devices that teachers are using in their classes than the actual teachers do.

America is archaic, backwards, deluded and retarded when it comes to things like this, and there's really nothing that CAN change it, because sadly, we don't WANT to change. Change requires work, effort, involvement and actually TRYING to do something, and everyone knows we'd sooner commit suicide than do any of THAT horrible stuff.

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>>716296334
butthurt

>>716289300
This is such a dumb argument. Knives are literally "murder tools", just recently trucks have become murder tools. Guns are the only defense against tyranny and the only truly efficient tool for self defense. Free society does not allow for a consolidation of power.

I am from south philly and have lost 3 friends in my lifetime and my Cousin in laws brother was killed 3 days before thanks giving. 3 of those deaths were with knives. Guns are an absolute necessity if you believe people have a right to protect their lives.

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>>716289145
ban usa

>>716289734
>Recognise that of the 11'000 deaths by firearm each year are mostly committed where there is the highest levels of gun control, and that banning guns doesn't work

fixed

>>716296641
That might work.

>>716295872
Training or discussing situations is equivalent to training with the weapon in my eyes.

>>716296608
well i'm not wrong if you think banning guns is going to do anything than clearly you're not very smart i mean explain mexico they ban guns entirely yet they have the largest homicide rate in the world.

>>716297058
Soft armor blankets. Shooter just pulls the blanket off.....

>>716288978
>allow staff to be armed
>teach gun awareness and safety in school
>let schools have marksmanship clubs
>make guns common, boring, and just another tool

also....
>Punish criminals (even if they are black)
>enforce existing gun laws
>bring back corporal punishment
>make parents accountable for their children.

>>716296131
Do you realize that just because you say words, they don't become true.

You literally just made up information. You brought zero evidence to the table and made massive claims.

>>716297058
Hillary supporters hiding from truth in their "safe space"

>>716297263
Solve gin problems with more guns....mmmmmright

>>716297263
Nail meet hammer.
Well said, alot of criminals end up being repeat violent gun crime offenders because they use the gun charge to plea out. This needs to end, you get arrested using a gun in a crime it should be no fucking mercy. Im tired of cucked USA going easy on criminals because he wuz a gud boi.

Also, again cucked as fuck, the USA used to teach gun safety in schools. What happened?
http://usherald.com/crack-dealer-obama-early-release-murder/

>>716291591
low and middle class are already cleaners, and upper class pays for their private schooling anyways.

The truth is that not everyone needs to be educated. How many people have you met that hold bachelors, masters, even PhDs yet are abysmally retarded when it comes their line of work or even simple acts? No amount of education helps those idiots.

>>716297545
And the solution is to have people who don't use them illegally to give them up? mmmkay?

More guns don't equal more crime this have been proven true time and time again.

>>716297545
Science demonstrates that the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

>>716292208
> It is literally the reason we were never met with an assault on the western half of the USA during ww2.

What? How retarded can you be?

>>716297816
>science

Not quite

>>716297971
Fuck, with logic like that you must work at scotland yard

>>716296131
This is true. Here in London the only people that tend to get shot are retard gangsters warring over housing estates.

>>716295852
Yeah, the permit. You can require training without a stupid fucking permit and registration.

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>>716297742
>murder rates

>>716297983
Average deaths in mass shooting when police have to respond - 16
average deaths when bystander with gun is present - 2

>>716288978
natural selection, murrican style!

>>716298202
I also like random numbers, here's a few

19
43
-5
.0045

>>716298231
Time to evolve bulletproof skin i guess.

>>716298050
Then why don't you show us some instances where people in america have gotten into wild accidental shootouts

>>716288978
ban nigger

>>716288978
There will never be a second Columbine.

>>716298156
Is that your whole argument? You mean the murder rates that have been steadily decreasing since the 80's all while gun ownership has been increasing? Cmon anon, you can do better then that.

>>716297545
Yes exactly.

Let's say there's 3 people in a room.

One bad guy, two good guys. The bad guy is armed and the other two aren't. Two good people will die.

Now let's say all three of them have a gun. Now they might kill the bad guy before he kills either of them in the best case scenario.

Also, by bad I mean someone that wants to harm innocent people.

>>716289145
This. Fuck 'Murican feewings.

>>716298471
Western hemisphere countries dont have the murder rates you americunts have, just sayin'...

>>716298473
Glad you own a calculator

>>716288978

it may come as an unpopular opinion but
you ban all guns of course

>>716298303
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/03/do-civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/?utm_term=.f95e8b926e4a

>>716288978
Only americunts are this obsessed with guns.
Obsolete weapons for an obsolete and falling empire

Ban fingers. Fingers cause all the trouble.

>>716298639
They also don't have the nigger problem we have. If you removed ALL black people and replaced them with white people America would have a murder rate lower then the U.K.

>>716297203
That is tactics not weapon skill. Tactics provides a damage and accuracy bonus to all applicable weapons, while weapon skill provide larger bonuses to specific weapon types

>>716298546
Sure thing, fuck my feelings. Now come on over and take that gun from me.

>>716288978
help young boys get laid.
seriously most edgy teens are just frustrated virgins.

>>716298878
Hahahah laughable at best

Acting as if you're the only country with immigration

Ban penises. Penises are evil. Bad penis. I spank bad penises.

Kill all americans

>>716298854
>Obsolete weapons for an obsolete and falling empire
Obsolete weapons? I thought liberals keep crying that they are weapons of war. Well which are they? Obsolete or weapons of war?
Pretty sure America is the only nation safe from the Muslim invasion you eurocucks are currently getting fucked in the ass by. Good thing you have those rape whistles though wouldn't want johnny jihad to get hurt when he is having a sexual emergency

>>716298473
Also, if the bad guy knows there is a chance the others are armed, he's going to keep his weapon out of sight. ( violent felons were interviewed, asked if they would have committed their crimes if there had been a chance of being shot, more than 60% said they would have chosen a safer target )

>>716299067
I second the motion

>>716299067
How? We have all the guns.

>>716299056
Blacks didn't immigrate here.....oh and thanks to the refugee crisis you eurocucks are having your violent crime rates have sky rocketed.

>>716299056
Yeah, the US has niggers, while Europe has SAND niggers. Different subspecies, same difference. Both are niggers

>>716298680
Glad you know how to hide your ignorance with jokes. My point is still valid whether you're smart enough to see the correlation or not.

>>716299170
They are gonna rape whistle us to death.

>>716299090
>Obsolete
>shortest lived empire ever
>muh freedom and all this noise
>shit country

Ban schools

Ban black semi trucks

>>716299056

Is there a minority anywhere in Europe that is responsible for more then half of all murders? If no then shut the fuck up.

>>716299217
>serious
>conversation
>4chan

Pick one numb nuts

Ban Turkish popo

>>716296617

Did owning guns save your friends?

>>716299056
He's right though. 14% of the population is black and they commit over 40% of the homicides.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

>>716299301
That is your argument?
>Saying obsolete (um what?)
>US is still standing last I checked
>Freedom is a bad thing?
>Once we get rid of niggers it will be just wonderful.

Ban ISIS

>>716296617
Ha! I use knives literally every day multiple times a day and I've never killed anyone. Weird how my murder tool hasn't murdered anyone.

Anyways, I completely agree with your point. Leave a population defenseless and they're ripe for fucking from anyone that has a big stick.

>>716296905
A+

>>716297238
>comparing yourself with 3rd world countries full of military grade weapons and huge drug cartels
well, your argument wouldn't work if you compared usa to a 1st world country for a change, so i see why you would take the easy route. however, it just makes you seem all the more wrong. why would you use the lowest common denominator as something to strive for?

compare with 1st world countries, and you'll see gun control works really well when a country isn't filled with militant drug cartels.

>>716299524
>hyper religious
>China
>drugs- illegal, abortion- illegal, privatized prisons etc...

Whats this about freedom?

>>716297861
They specifically said they would not invade American soil because the citizens would be shoving guns in their mouths before they had a chance to do anything. Learn some history.

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Alright here's what we do. We combine the buttplug idea
>>716296297
But in addition, we arm every student with a dildo and instruct them to charge the shooter and ram him viciously. Nobody's gonna do a school shooting if they know they'll get rectally ravaged by a twelve year old with a bad dragon.

For bonus points get the one that shoots fake jizz and fill it with vapo rub.

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>>716299780

We don't.

>>716299780
>They ????

Litteraly only an americunt would believe that

Quint

>>716299780
Just checked, there's no record of Yamamoto saying it.
So like most things in the internet it was prolly made up.

>>716298854
Said by someone in a nation that probably has very restricted freedoms for "the safety of its citizens"

>>716299510
No because 2 of them were too young to own guns and the other one was on probation so none were armed. Cousin in laws brother was a junkie and wasn't allowed to own firearms. I promise you they would all still be alive today if they were armed. MY cousin in law brother had his face slashed and he bleed to death in the street. Lost one friend at 14, one at 16 and the other at 17. I will never be in that situation. These things happen so quick and are over just like that I won't die in the streets so I carry a firearm for protection. I also avoid the ghetto now as well. Alot of people own firearms but not a whole lot carry their firearms with them. Its a shame because they do you no good at home. They think it will never happen to them until it does.

>>716298906
My point is that they go hand in hand. You shouldn't have one without the other.

>>716299564
>Anyways, I completely agree with your point. Leave a population defenseless and they're ripe for fucking from anyone that has a big stick.
I shoot my firearms about once a week and they haven't murdered anyone either. What a strange phenomenon. Mine must be defective

Legalize murder. Problem solved.

>>716299688
no recently there have been many murders you hear all the time in Europe and there gun control laws haven't done anything to stop them in fact if the native citizens had the power to defend themselves mabye there wouldn't be so many cases of Mohammed killing people.

>>716299067
How you gonna kill us when we have more than double the weaponry than the rest of the world

>>716299765
Sorry buddy
China has always been like this, I'll take freedom over safe tyranny any day.

>>716296617
A knive isnt a murder tool because it isnt made for killing people, a gun is.

>>716299409
I can have whatever kind of conversation I want wherever the fuck I want.

>>716299831
http://www.skylighters.org/quotations/quots6.html

>>716300368
I used my knife as a dildo. I has a boo boo now.

>>716300368
Knives are literally made to cut flesh. Also, its a dumb argument. I don't care if its a truck a knife or a gun. Anything can kill you. "Murder tool" or not.
Guns however, are the most effective tool for self defense.

All wanna be gun grabbers should be the ones actually collecting the guns.

Hello there, sir. I have this piece of paper that says you have to turn over your guns.

>>716299099
this statistic doesn't apply to schools.

>>716300109
Well junkies and felons don't really contribute to society anyways, not they deserve to die. They definitely would have survived if they had guns though, which is good for innocent people that want to contribute to society.

>>716288978
allow faculty to arm themselves

>>716300197
I keep my gun in my pants pointed right at my dick because I'm not an idiot that thinks guns kill people.

I know that my gun will only fire when I load a round and pull that trigger while pointed at someone that is trying to take my life.

>>716289145
9/10 bait

>>716300788
Yeah, let's see how that shit goes

>>716301133
I don't think they should have guns. I have never been a junkie or convict and if I was old enough and armed they would have never been killed. It sucks to know there is a solution but its too late, so I carry all the time to make sure it wont happen to me.

>>716297545
Well taking them away from law abiding people does nothing but leave those people defenseless.

>>716301294
appendix carry is the worst.

>>716289501
This. There really needs to be a law against this.

>>716288978
Shoot kids before they to to school

>>716289300

>take kitchen knife
>go into preschool class
>kill weak female teacher
>proceed to slit 30 childrens throats

muh gun ban

eat a bullet, nigger