Do you trust this man with nuclear weapons?

>>716279899
You have no idea what the policy is when it comes to Nukes, if you did, you would realize he can't just press a button.

>>716279899
more than Hydrogen Hillary yes

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no. now stfu and save political discussions for /pol/ or a forum in which the issues can be fully fleshed out and is not full of plebs.

>>716279975
And you do?

You know it takes more than just a whim to launch a nuke. Trump can't just nuke someone without going thru the proper channels

as much as i trust my girlfriend at home alone

He can't do shit without the approval of congress and the senate and then it still has to go through the heads of the military. The president alone does not have the power to nuke.

>>716281270

Even if Trump did go crazy and somehow use launch codes to authenticate an order, any general or subordinate down the chain is allowed to disobey an unlawful order.

Even tested under ideal circumstances, people tasked with launching nukes refuse do do so in nearly 50% of the test cases. Fucking hillary scare tactics...

>>716279899
implying that's an issue.
this bullshit is older than you kid

>>716281136
so she is a slut? pics? nudes? cuck pics?

>>716281531
This

I'm a dragon

>>716281870
Sharpie in the snout or GTFO

>>716281968

Y

>>716279975

He can, in fact. It's actually one of the few things the US President can do unilaterally. Once the order is given, there is no debate.

>>716279899
Only someone as volatile and simple-minded as Trump, himself, would be comfortable with this situation.
>Trump strong and make murrica gret again *beats chest and makes ape-like grunting noises*

I think the liberal media has a tendency to make mountains out of molehills, but I think any rational person knows that making ambiguous statements about nuclear proliferation on twitter is inappropriate behavior for a president. At least in a press environment, he can immediately expound on his statements, rather than leaving everyone to speculate about what the fuck he's talking about. He's a fucking clown.

>>716281765
narrow minded. i trust my woman completely

>>716279899
Yes, I do.

>>716282291
Yes there is. There is a descending chain of command. Anyone in there can disobey the order to launch.

fucking retard.

>>716279899
Should anyone with nukes be trusted?
Answer is no. Even if it's your own government.
Lesson of the day for all you brainwashed sheeple
>baaaaaaaahhhhhh

>>716279899

the US have around 100 nukes stored in Italy
it'd be fun if they blow up one by accident
or let some of our refugee to steal one...

>>716279899
Yes

>>716282500

Oh, so you are relying on chain of command to override the Commander-In-Chief to prevent nuclear destruction. Good plan. At least once he starts the war, it will be over quickly and we will all be dead.

>>716282597
>sheeple

wow. so enlightened and smart. why can't we all have noonan syndrome like you??

>>716282768
It's already happened multiple dozens of times here, and once in Soviet Russia.

The one in Russia was an actual order to launch based on faulty data.

So quit getting all your fucking information from Facebook and actually learn what the fuck happens in the real world.

fag

>>716280020
>pol
>fully fleshed out
Unfortunately, "/pol/" is not "politics"; it's an echochamber, just like most special interest forums.

>>716279899
I wouldn't trust him with a fork

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>>716279899

No.

>>716282904

Facebook, sure. How about directors of the NSA:
http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/hayden-possible-i-won-t-vote-in-this-election-737216579636

>>716279899
more than hillary that's for damn sure

>>716279899
Pretty sure orders go through the DoD and other departments, so it really isn't up to him whether nukes are employed or not

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>>716283033
Forks are irrelevant, believe me. Spoons are a fantastic utensil and they're much better and more good, believe me.

>>716279975
keep telling it yourself until you believe your own shit

>>716279899
fuck no. This guy really wants a shooting war with someone. He's nutty as a goddamned fruitcake. You all got duped for voting him in, and we will all pay for it as a consequence.

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>>716283294

>more than hillary that's for damn sure

Then you are retarded. Srsly.

>>716283188
NSA = trustworthy

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>>716279899
no

>>716283092
wtf I hate trump now

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>>716284168
pic related, it's you

>>716282403
dude, post 'em. we won't tell her.

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Do you trust this man with a nuclear bomb?

>>716284336
yes because usa is now own by a big zionist jew !

>>716280020

pol is an echochamber. these threads are good for here.

it's the inherently right threads that don't belong here.

>>716283092
I'm currently working on a "best of" compilation of bright red flags that should've tipped people off, and this one will fit nicely.

>>716283882
>tinfoil hat

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>>716279899
Why shouldn't I? He already handles them regularly.

>>716284336
Do you just have a folder of crying underage girls saved?

>>716280087
>80087▶
>You know it takes more than just a whim to launch a nuke. Trump can't just nuke someone without going thru
>>716279975
You are dumb as shit:

"The president has supreme authority to decide whether to use America's nuclear weapons. Period. Full stop," said the Arms Control Association's Kingston Reif. A president could only be stopped by mutiny, he said, and more than one person would have to disobey the president's orders."

If the President gives the order to launch, they fucking launch unless they purposely want to disobey a Presidential order. The President has 100% autonomous authority to fire nuclear missiles.

>>716285458
Yes, it's 4chan/liberals/

>>716282291

This guy's clearly a fucking moron, a butthurt Hillary supporter, or both. It's hard to believe that people like this are actually alive and breathing.

>Once the order is given, there is no debate

BAHAHAHAhahahaAHAHAHAHahahahahah
You obviously don't know military personnel either.

>>716282291
Bullshit: in a democracy, everything is up for debate.

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>>716279899
No

>>716285615
>>716285497
I think we all can see who the retard is. The President has 100% autonomous authority to launch as he sees fit.

>>716285714
>>716285497

>>716285497
If he gives an unlawful order, it's just like any Sergeant, Colonel, or General given an unlawful order and Soldiers are well within their authority, whatever their rank, to easily disobey it.

There's not a distinction between "A Presidential Order" and any other dipshit officer in the military. Get a fucking clue. It's some of the most basic shit you learn in boot because when the smoke clears you'll have 100 lawyers up your ass if you do the wrong thing "becuz the Prez sed so."

>>716285137
In other words, you're still butthurt and can't get over it. *yawn*

>>716285728
You forgot "during times of war"

>>716285832
Cool. Let's rest the future of western civilization on the hopes that Sergeant Fuckdinkle decides to disobey the President.

>>716285728
>authority to call for a launch*

FTFY

Unless you meant some president is about to somehow walk his happy ass across the desert, activate a two-person authentication system, and magically fire them off himself.

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>>716285497
Let's say it's a few months later and the bromance between Trump and Putin is over
Putin says something shitty about Trump on Twitter.
Trump is up at 3 am, pacing. He can't stop thinking about that Tweet.
He decides to nuke Moscow. He asks for the football and proceeds.
Is there anything in place to stop him?

>>716285884
It doesn't have to be during a time of war for him to decide to leverage nuclear weaponry. Even if it did (it doesn't) the President has the authority to put us at war without congressional approval. Bush did this. The Vietnam war was an example of this. Etc. Etc.

>>716282959
i mean sure, you can call Wikipedia an echo chamber if you really want..

>>716285837
No, but once things completely go to shit, I want to show them how blind they were to the warning signs. It's important to document these things so that perhaps people can learn from their mistakes.

>>716286076
The only thing available to stop him would be to have two separate people decide to disobey a Presidential order.

>>716286213
Good on you, Anon.

>>716286028
>Cool, let's minimize the reality of the situation because someone BTFO of me

I love how these reddit faggots think soldiers just kill babies and launch nukes because some voice on a radio said so. You think it's more likely some power-crazy President could successfully launch nukes than Generals and Colonels with decades of service making rational decision and tell his men to stand down knowing it would likely be the end of the entire planet? Wew. Hillary really fucked your head 4 ways from Sunday.

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>>716279899

>>716286335
My father was a marine. I served a tour in the Army. Deployed to Iraq for two of those years. I'd say I know the military fairly well.

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>>716286201
Yeah, great point, anon...

More than Killary

>>716286213
Gotta love these "end of the world" faggots who can't just let it go already. There's not one person on 4chan who has seen ANY change whatsoever to their life since the election that they haven't manufactured in their own mind aside from the stock market rocketing through the roof, but somehow "ohhh noo the world's about to end but not before torture camps for gays" or some shit.

>>716279899
very much so

>>716286621
>Trump may nuke Earth to a crisp. But it'd be crispier under Hillary.
yeah yeah

>>716286474
>my father was a marine
>I know nukes
>I was in Iraq
>I know nukes

BaAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Ok, Cook McGee. Whatever you say, shitbag.

>>716279899
I wholeheartedly trust my emperor.

My mother legitimately believes WW3 is coming and lives like there's a death sentence on her. I'm fucking horrified that she's so convinced, and I'm a little scared myself.

Fuck everything.

>>716286785
When you're masturbating to traps tonight, give a thought to a couple of my brothers who took IEDs in Iraq for me. Thanks.

>>716279899

uh oh, here comes to libtards with the sirens

OMG TRUMP WILL NUKE EVERYTHING

shut the fuck up and stop projecting your stupidity everywhere, you might hurt your tiny brain

>>716286650
>stock market going through the roof
Ask any stock broker what happens right after the market is in a state of euphoria.

Anyway, I'm not one of those "end of the word" faggots; I'm just betting on the fact that after 4 years of Trump (if he even manages to get that far), the country is going to be in a terrible state.

>>716286918
>Some guys got hit with IEDs and told me about it while I was serving them mashed potatoes and wild tigers

>so I know nukes

AHAHAHAHAHaAhaha keep going, please.

>>716286650

I now live in perpetual fear of what's life is going to be like for my two year son who happens to have brown skin. I've woken up in a cold sweat at 2am several times since the election.

I never felt this way until Trump won.

Does that count?

>>716287055
the market is based on speculation of FUTURE reward. People literally betting on the fact that businesses, worker wages, and consumer buying power will be GREATER in the future and thus return profits. It's been booming since Nov. 9th specifically because people believe there will be an overall improvement from 8 years of this dumb black fuck in office.

There's usually a slight pull-back, but of course you liberal retards are going to try and focus on that instead of the market hitting all-time highs within the past 6 weeks. Everyone knows it's a bull market like a motherfucker right now. You probably don't even know what a 401k is let alone how to spell it, but whatever you say.

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>>716279899
I hear his bunker is magnificent

yes i do, i want to see him start a new war with someone.

>>716286416
I'll agree with that list, but you know who I don't trust more than Hillary Clinton?

Donald Trump

>>716287552

China? That's the most likely candidate. He's already said that he does not have to abide by the One China policy.

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>>716286785
>Salty

>>716287175
Literally nothing whatsoever has happened to anyone yet so, no, it doesn't count. If you or your kid are illegal aliens you should've seen that coming, otherwise any fear you have is completely irrational and batshit crazy.

It's funny how the only "attacks" brown people have suffered so far have been proven fabricated bullshit. You should be more afraid of your liberal dipshit friends and their wacky antics than anything.

http://abc7ny.com/news/nypd-muslim-woman-lied-about-attack-on-subway/1656487/

Like what rational reason do you have for waking up in cold sweats at 2am simply because some guy you don't even know got voted into office? I'm sure we'd all love to hear the logic behind this if there is any.

>>716284818
>i dont agree with them so they shouldnt be allowed
Fuck you, cry more loser.

>>716279899
Everybody is afraid of nukes and nobody knows what a Neutron bomb is.

>>716279899
tbh I dont trust any fucking humans with something like nukes

theyre obviously a bad idea

but I trust Trump more than some woman or some nigger to quit the castration of our society

>>716287361
You act like Trump, himself, has something to do with the market right now; I know he's your God Emperor, but I don't think you understand how these things work. And no, they're not betting on "better wages" and a big boom in consumer spending, they're betting on the fact that shareholders will temporarily benefit from giant reductions in corporate taxes and deregulation.

>you probably don't even know what a 401k is let alone how to spell it
Wat. Stop posting, anon, you're embarrassing yourself.

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>>716287702

>http://abc7ny.com/news/nypd-muslim-woman-lied-about-attack-on-subway/1656487/

Donald Trump lied about seeing thousands of Muslims cheering the World Trade center burning. Eventually he became president. So that woman can at least make secretary of transportation.

>>716287702

Thank you for your sympathy and understanding. You seem like a very caring human being. Everything is so much clearer to me now. It's not that Trump has been stoking racial division for 30 years, it's that I'm a liberal dipshit.

Why didn't I see it sooner?

>>716286899
Nothing is going to change, things will keep going like they always have.
In 3 months the country is going to be enraged by another coon getting blasted or celebrating some lab experiment that had their genitals mutilated.

>>716287959
Nigger, people don't speculate on the past, they speculate on the future and, yes, "better wages">greater consumer spending is precisely one of the things they're betting on. Couple that with reductions in corporate taxes and repealing unnecessary and costly regulations and you've got a recipe for a better economy.

You clearly don't know how booms work so maybe just shutting the fuck up would be the wise move for you at this point.

It's like you think obama dumping 500 billion into "stimulus packages" and propping up Solyndra with taxpayer money actually HELPED the economy. Good god, you faggots will try to spin anything you can until you're presented with actual facts. Get fucking real, clown.

>>716282500
Just like the electors could have voted differently. But we both know that'd never happen.

>>716279899
No but here we are

>>716288224
I want to believe that, and most of me does.
But there's this nagging tick in the back of my mind.

I never had it before, but now it won't go away.

>>716279899
More than I would trust myself. Greedy men ain't likely to blow the world up. Donald won't be any more worthy of our concern than all the yips before him.

>>716283092
>cant even be bothered citing the page so we can look it up and see if its true
And just like that! Into the trash you go!

>>716279899
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVQyYJ8Rl7o

>>716288405
Thats the liberal cancer, resist the jews, dont be a good goyim. The white man has been fighting the jews enemies for too long. Let the jews fight the muslims themselves. The white man already contributed his part to the crusades.

>>716282500
Exactly. Bunch of fucking retards spitting that Trump may start WW3 with Russia, but they were just recently on the bandwagon of calling him Putin's puppet.

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>all these Trump supporters trying to convince democucks that trump wont nuke them or put them in camps, and might actually do a decent job
Why do you guys even bother? We dont need to convince anyone to vote for him, Trump won and there is nothing they can do about it, you might as well antagonise them further and enjoy the tears and panic attacks

Yes.

>>716288612
I'm pretty sure it's not just liberal indoctrination that makes me think Trump is a fucking idiot.

As much as I disliked Bush, I not for one moment worried about WW3 under him.

>>716288771
>I not for one moment worried about WW3 under him.
Yeah because you were probably about 12 years old

>>716288301
Kek. Gee, anon, with all that pseudo-outrage, I'm almost questioning my reasoning.

>you've got a recipe for a better economy
Trickle down economics doesn't work. It never has. It never will. Stop shilling for people who are laughably far above your tax bracket.

Just take a look at Reaganomics and it's effect on income inequality and the middle class -- income inequality skyrocketed, wages remained flat, and the only people who really benefitted from the tax reductions and deregulation were the top 10%. And if you look at the correlation between tax rates and income equality throughout the 20th and 21st centuries, you'll find that, generally speaking, the higher the taxes the lower the income inequality. Now, I'm not reducing it to tax rates, as it's more complicated than that, but it certainly doesn't bear out this notion that huge tax cuts are the way to go. It's also worth noting that the majority of corporations pay much less than the top corporate tax rate once you adjust for subsidies and tax breaks.

>>716288922
When he was first elected, yeah. I was exactly 12 in 2000.

>>716288988
No one's talking about reaganomics, we're talking about people overwhelmingly on board for a better economy under Trump.

Way to try and derail the conversation though.

>>716289192
Fucktard, Trump is going to use Reagan's plans only he's putting them on steroids. It's going to be an absolute trainwreck.

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>>716287361
Did you ever considered suicide? You are dumb as fuck...

>>716288197
Why are you claiming to wake up in cold sweats at 2am for your kid "just because he has brown skin"? Just give a legitimate, rational answer. You can't because you don't have one.

Why did Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, and numerous community leaders talk about what a great person he was and how much he gave back up until the second he decided to run against Hillary Clinton if he was stoking race hatred for 30 years?

Why weren't you waking up in cold sweats for the past 8 years I wonder?

http://nypost.com/2016/01/17/how-obama-has-turned-back-the-clock-on-race-relations/

Tell us, simply, what you are afraid of exactly that has you waking up in cold sweats? Something you've decided in your head is real that simply isn't true at all? I'd put my money on that.

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>>716289337
>Did you ever considered

>>716288442
You're right, it belongs in the trash. You want a real quote from the book? Here ya go...

"The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people's fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That's why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular."

"I call it truthful hyperbole. It's an innocent form of exaggeration — and a very effective form of promotion."

>>716289337
scholarly rebuttal, really.

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>>716279899

>>716289427
>implying no president or elected governmental official has ever used hyperbole before Trump

Wew lad
How brainwashed could you be?

>>716289288
Thanks, anon, you beat me to it.

I like how he thinks anything that doesn't fit his narrative, or that he doesn't understand is "derailing the conversation"

>>716288301
Do you still believe that shit? Read an economic book. God, your hurting my brain.

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>>716288988
This.

>>716289540
Some more than others, but I wouldn't expect you to be able to differentiate the some from the others. I dont think any pesident in history has engaged in the level of hyperbole that Trump has almost become famous for; in other words, he's a fucking pathological liar.

>>716289723
>openlygayanimals

precisely the place i'd expect to find some stupid anti-capitalist shit like this tbh fam

get back to class with your faggoty gold belt buckle. paco

>>716289427
Yeah Im fine with that, a bit of hyberbole never hurt anyone

>>716289914
I mean we could go back and forth with instances of lying all day but the fact remains the only other viable choice was Hillary and her lies were much, much more dangerous and cost people exponentially more money. It's time to set aside "the end of the world" bullshit and just accept it.