Are you fuckers behind this?

If not that's fucking hilarious.

>>716271730
kekekekekekek

>>716271833
No

>>716271730
lets get this going

>>716271870
Maybe

>>716271900
I found this on my Facebook feed this morning. It's already going.

>>716271833
>>716271870

Maybe, but we're not going to tell you.

>>716271730
looks good, need more of this.

>>716271935
lets get it going even more then

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>>716271730
The problem with this is, just like all the fake news and propaganda, liberals are too smart to fall for it.

>>716272091
cutforbieber

Need I say more?

>>716271730
I hope this is real. I wanna watch libtards kill themselves. lol

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>>716272091
>liberals
>smart

>>716272091
Liberals fall for fake shit all the time. Same as conservatives. Anyone who defines themselves as a title instead of their values is a sheep. Most smart people are centrist because they have both liberal and conservative values.

I just read their Twitter.
And I thought I was retarded for being a boarderline alcoholic.
I'm actually pretty sane.

DO IT FAGGOTS

>>716272091
Then why do all liberals believe in the Russian boogeyman?

>>716272501
>this

best thread i've ever seen

>>716272501
gggggod damn i can finally rest in peace someone finally speaks the truth

>>716272091
>liberals
>too smart

Haha good one.

>>716272501
In two lines, you have summarized the core problem with American politics. If we all valued our individual ideals more than the titles that the bi-partisans carry, we would probably have a much less fallible democracy.

>>716272665
Because it's a convenient scapegoat. And for HuffPo to say they directly hacked the actual election when all they did was release the lefts dirty laundry well before it speaks volumes as to what they'll say and believe to keep the false narrative going.

>>716273209

yfw hacking is a social construct (well, social engineering anyway)

>>716271730
Duh. What do you think this is? Reddit? Don't even have to ask.

>>716271730
epic

I bet lots of liberals will "fall" for it

>>716271730
100%, I'm all for this movement

>>716273757
kek

>>716272501
THIS

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>>716272501

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>>716272213
the problem is liberals aren't retarded like conservatives.

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>>716272501
Finally a level headed individual.

>>716272501
>smart
>conservative values

pick one

>>716274945
depends entirely on what issue you're talking about but sure, smart people can have conservative values and liberal values. You're retarded if you think being smart means you will or should always lean left on every issue.

>>716271730
I never in all of my young life thought the liberals would become so bad that I side with the right. American politics is a fake tribal hometeam game. You always root for your team no matter who it is instead of picking the person who holds most of your values. And the fucked up part is it's even systematic and in some parts of the country you have to be listed as a R or D before you can choose someone.

>>716274945
>>716273125
I think we can all agree that both sides are full of tards.

>>716274945
>Spotted the Liberal
You are very bright, aren't you?

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>>716271730
IT IS TIME TO CEASE IT

>>716274945
You can have the conservative values of self responsibility, supporting the constitution, owning guns, and loving America and still have the liberal values of legalizing marijuana, letting the gays marry, respecting a woman's right to choose, and not being racist. There's retards in both groups and they tend to be at each end of the spectrum.

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>>716275270

>>716274945

There are a handful of conservative values that have solid roots in logical ideas. Not all of them are bigoted asshats. This is exactly the point we're making. The system of generalizing all individuals and ideas into two constrained narratives limits a legitimate democratic dialogue. Discussion and the exploration of ideas is the only way a democratic society moves forward. But our democracy is now dominated by media reinforced titles and virtual echo chambers, leaving legitimate commentary as a minority in the shadows. This enforces a polarization of the masses and will only serve to divide the common people of America, enabling plutocrats to continue to seize power.

>>716271730
I'm not even sure we can take individual or collective responsibility anymore--these things just sort of happen now.

>>716275737
Although I think that's true, a single quote doesn't have any objetive validity without hard data, even if it comes from an influential person.

>>716275737
>[citation needed]
Sweeping generalizations that match your pre-existing worldview presented as a quote can be alluring to accept but that's just your bias clouding your vision.

>>716276197
Fair point. I was genuinely curious if there was a thread devoted to crafting this or not. The discussion on here is nice though.

>>716271730
no
we love trump

>>716271730
i don't think so but we should help it get traction

>>716276463
That's the point. A way to kill libtards and grow God Emperor Trump's collective power

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>>716272091
>too smart

>>716274945
b8

>>716274797
that's 100% an actor

>>716272091
this.

MSNBC & CNN for the most part are the only real news sources.

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>>716276903

>>716277028
Idk why people keeps posting her on here. She's the least relevant person in the world right now.

what's so funny about it? You nerds should rather help to make sure shit like this IS NOT being posted anywhere
Some idiot with 60iq will jump from his house and die, haha xD

>>716277234
That's the point.

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>>716271730
Once again OP is a Faggot!

>>716271909
I don't know... can you repeat the question ?

>>716277293
>screw these hillary voters, they should just kill themselves
You're just like them

I love that the person in the picture is wearing Chucks. It's the extra little things that make it so special.

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>>716272091
Then how did Trump get elected?

>>716277166
Those words from a fat neckbeard lurking /pol/ and posting on /b/ take some special flavor, don't they

>>716277395
>Some idiot with 60iq will jump from his house and die, haha xD
This is who it's meant to root out.

>>716277522
because too many dumb fucks fell for the fake news which was oozing with russian propaganda.

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ITT: butthurt relatively undereducated conservatives trying desperately to affirm their safe-space beliefs that "you're not stupid just because you don't have a Master's degree, at the very least," and "education and intelligence don't correlate," etc...

Get real, the education level of Trump's white voter-base was lower than that of Hillary's by a frightening margin (and let's face it, other racial groups are not relevant to this particular point because their votes not driven by their ability to conceive of and analyze the consequences of contemporary government policy - their votes were driven by "yuh racism"). Education correlates strongly with situational awareness, objectivity, analytical ability, and problem solving skills.

.gif related. It's every conserv in this thread.

>>716276903
Fake Trump hat is a dead giveaway and everyone knows it was Bush's fault.

>>716278430
Tell that to the colleges that are making tests optional and offering Trump coping therapy to its coddled students.
You
Are
Wrong

>>716278430
>conservatives
>safe-space

>conservatives
>cucks

I love how libs call and accuse conservatives of exactly what they themselves are.

kek

>>716274945
And then there's this asshole

>>716272572
Do a flip

>>716276914
Which is why they wouldn't admit Trump was winning right up until it happened. It's almost like they *GASP*...lied!

>>716271730
Please say this is real, and please say they do it. It will be hilarious fun watching these whining babies plummet to their deaths while a trail of tears follows them down.

>>716272893
Samefagging this hard

>>716274797
Yeah this is definitely a real conversation with real people

>>716271730
>File name FB_IMG...
>FB_IMG
>FB_I
> FBI

Not this time Mr. Lawman.

>>716275572
>respecting a woman right to choose
Call us when you learn how to stop using pathetic euphemisms.
>stop being racist
Call us when this doesn't mean "stop white people and only white people from saying and doing things we don't like"

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>>716278430
Why is it liberals have to use their college degrees to convince people that they're smart? The easier way to actually do that is simply to say something coherent, thoughtful, and fucking smart. But rather than expose an inability to do that, they rely on appeals to authority, if they WERE smart, then they'd know that hinging an argument on a logical fallacy is a bad idea.

For the most part, liberals fall into two groups: those who AREN'T smart, but let themselves believe that they are simply because they happen to share opinions with people who can rationalize them; and people of perfectly adequate intelligence who simply don't bother explaining their views to "deblorable conservatives." And they wonder why people call them elitist.

>>716278424
Or maybe it's because the left became so stupid that they can no longer even tell the difference between a man and a woman.

>>716278757
This. So much this.

>>716278430
Good lord the protection is unreal

Youre literally insulting us by calling us exactly what you are

>>716275737
I don't think that means what you think it means

>>716271730
ah natural selection at its finest

>>716278747
Tests are for evaluating a person's specific contextual education, and they do a piss poor job at that, let alone at measuring the quality of over-arching skills that I mentioned. But even if they did that job well, whether or not the evaluations are mandatory says little about the capacity of the students, especially those who are actually motivated to education for education's sake (whom, in the most relevant fields to the skills mentioned above are overwhelmingly liberal).

Then on top of the Trump coping rooms are demanded almost exclusively for the relatively small proportion of students in social-sciences and non-sciences - these fields are rife with personal bias and so are not appropriately relevant to the skills above. But even if they were, again, the fact that they are offered has no influence on the capacity of the students regarding those skills.

I
am
correct

>>716278757
I don't think you know what cuckoldry is. It is not related to this at all.

>>716272501
Eek barba durkle
Somebody's getting laid in college

>>716272091
there mostly jobless hippies that dropped out of school

>>716279922
They're *
Your and idiot

>>716279984
i was sick that day when we went over that back when i was in school

>>716272501
>givethatmanacookie.jpg

Liberals:

>are so far gone that they can no longer recognize definitive facts, such as the characteristics of terrorists and the difference between a man and a woman
>"vote for Hilary because we're smart and you're dumb."
>"we lost the election because of russia"

>>716280295
mental disorder confirmed....

>>716272501
>smart person on /b/
am i dreaming

>>716280295
screenshot for lols

>>716277554
Oof. Hit a nerve?

>>716279606
The argument isn't hinged on a logical fallacy; having an education in a STEM field objectively makes a person better at the above mentioned skills. Referencing the degree is merely a short-hand testament to a base of tools and experience (that conservatives comparatively lack) that qualify a thoughtful and logical person. It is surprising to me that this you do not understand this because it seems straightforward.

I agree with your assessment of the first group of liberals, but the second group you are incorrect about, and the second group for the most part. But you missed the third group, accurately portrayed as people of excess intelligence who bother explaining, but the explanation is often beyond the capability or willingness of people of lesser intelligence to comprehend; case in point, my use of the METAPHOR of the safe-space as a self-affirming suite of habits and circumstances that allows you to exist without challenging your own ideals, and thus growing and inevitably coming to your senses that while some liberal policies are bupkis, most are not, and the net positive impact is tremendous by comparison to conservative policy.

Those of us that fall into the last category are elitist because we are elite.

>>716279793
I'm assuming you meant projection. But, please attack my character more without refuting any of my points. See my point above about the metaphor.

>>716279889
College != Intelligence

How can you possibly say that it does?
The only thing required for college is an overwhelming lack of ambition for keeping yourself out of debt.
If you want to make a point about the difference in intelligence between Hillary supporters and Trump supporters, try making a real argument. College lost any reputation it once had for being synonymous with intelligence years ago. As soon as it became associated with safe spaces, special snowflakes and gender studies degrees.

But then again, what's really the point? I mean, he's president whether you like it or not. I voted for Hillary myself because I believe she's more stable. I mean, she's basically Obama 2.0.
I didn't have to lie to myself or just go with a sweeping "All Trump supporters are inbred rednecks" to justify that.

liberals say that conservatives are responsible for global warming. its actually the liberals. there so obese that they need more air to semi function like a person. also they cause us to use more energy to feed them because of their "condishuns" and to keep their bodies alive after their organs fail from being a fuckin fatass

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>>716271730
The only reason trust won in the first place was because putin hacked into the polls and rigged the entire fucking thing against hillary. It's so fucking ridiculous that so many people deny this, like seriously wtf lol

>>716279606
> "deblorable"
I bet you're the sort who saw Trump's tweet containing "unpresidented" and asked why everyone was laughing.

> liberals rely on appeals to authority and logical fallacies
Coming from someone who is likely a conservative, this is hilariously hypocritical.

>>716280893
Putin called you democrats sore losers.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-putin-trump-idUSKBN14C0WE?il=0

kek.

The whole world is laughing at you

>>716272501
preach anon

>>716271730
I'll tell you later

>>716271730
Trump supporter here.
This would make me take the left seriously.
So far there's only been 28 people moving to Canada for "trump related" reasons.

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>>716272501

>>716281029
> pre-Trump
"Fuck Putin and Russia! What a bunch of commie fucks!"

> post-Trump / Russian hack
"Fuck you Liberals! Trump won legitimately! Putin's a great man and he's laughing at you!"

Are all conservatives this hypocritically retarded or is it just the loudest among you?

>>716280893
Just like how Obama won because he is a Kenyan Reptillian spy? God it's gonna be fun seeing liberals taking a turn at the conspiracy theory wheel for a while.

>>716281339
>Liberal
>Calling others hypocrites
Kek

>>716280905
>Coming from someone who is likely a conservative, this is hilariously hypocritical.
That's not a counter argument. Identity politics are worthless.
>Not the guy you replied to

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>>716280893
Way to miss all the facts.

Russians were behind some email hacks that INFLUENCED the election. They didn't actually hack the polls nor the counting. So they did not, in fact, "hack the election." They did what they (and we) always do. They tried to influence the election.

The hacks only revealed embarrassing truths about the Democrats. They did not hack the results.

You complete idiot.

>>716281339
Name one person who said both these things. I'll wait.

>>716281339
Pre-Trump?

Really? Back in the 80s yeah, but that was the USSR, not the same as the Russian Federation.

But Islam = peace right anon?

>>716280811
>>716279606
You're still not getting it. In your original post, you said nothing at all about what makes conservatives stupid (likewise, i said nothing about what makes liberals stupid). You simply CLAIMED that they're all stupid, and started citing college education as evidence. I DO agree with you that a college education is generally an indication of intelligence, obviously. It's still a logical fallacy to use "I'm smarter because..." as your argument. Google "appeal to authority" if you're unfamiliar with the concept.

Now, to illustrate my point: give me a specific argument against some aspect of the conservative agenda, and I promise you that I will successfully argue against it.

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>>716279984
*you're *an

>>716280821
I'm not talking about college. I'm talking about graduate school. College is basic education.

I recognize he's president and I've not yet denied it. Additionally I'm more than willing to give him a chance; but the moment he starts instating regressive policies he should be ousted.

And further, I did not once say or imply what you suggest about conservatives. I generalized (doesn't feel good does it - see my point about the metaphor), which allows me to acknowledge that there are some within the group who are genuinely capable of the same level of thinking, but retains the fact that most are not, and that most who are are also not.

Use your reading comprehension skills, man.

>>716281639
Damn I wish this was real. America really needs a white nationalist president

>>716272091
THE ABOVE WAS A JOKE. YOU ARE ALL RETARDS.

>>716281599
Coal and oil are fuels of the past. The US, as well as most if not all other nations among the world's greater powers are beginning the transition to renewables. Continued investment in, indeed reliance on fossil fuels will leave the USAmerica comparatively technologically retrded and make us vulnerable to usurpation as a global leader in almost anything that we lead the world in (which is very little, and has been since the end of the industrial era).

>>716280893
You truly are an idiot. Congrats, you've been manipulated by headlines.

Putin hacked Podesta's email. He exposed the Clinton campaign's embarrassing emails (AKA exposing the truth). If anything, he's guilty of EDUCATING voters, not defrauding them.

No one, not the CIA, not the FBI, not Obama or even Clinton, has even begun to suggest that Putin hacked the polls.

Yes, that email hack infuenced the election. We've known that since before a single vote was cast.

>>716271730
no, im above it

>>716281257
> moderates don't have beliefs or convictions
> only left or right extremists have serious opinions

Son, you might be legally retarded.

>>716282009
be quiet faggot, you don't know shit. kys

>>716280905
Bait is too obvious/10

>>716271730
Yes I'm behind this. As in behind ready to push you faggy liberals off!

MAGA kys

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>>716272091
To fall for it, HAHAHAHA, get it because they are falling off roofs?

Like it. Love it. Gotta have it.

Please spread this, I hope people actually do it

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MODS DELETE THIS THREAD
WHY THE FUCK IS IT STILL UP

>>716280905
Way to not put up any meaningful argument. You sure are smart

MODS

>>716281670
>Additionally I'm more than willing to give him a chance

He doesnt need your chance, sunny boy.

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Kek vult!!!

>>716281508
Interesting Factoid:

Hillary may have won the popular vote by a margin of error after she gave up the race, but everyone calling Trump and his supporters racist are failing to realize that she still got less popular votes than Obama did in 2008 when running for the democratic nomination in 2008.

If Obama had the option of a Third term he would have won then also. No matter the outcome, everyone knows her for the monster she and her supporters are.

>>716282449
Faggot

>>716272091
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/muslim-woman-reported-trump-supporter-attack-made-story-article-1.2910944
Uh huh.

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>>716282809

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>>716282841

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>>716282858

>>716271730
Yes! They (the sjw's) will kill themselves off, and save us the trouble

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>>716271833
sssh. secred club, faggot

>>716271730
Yes, do a flip for Bernie!

>>716281973
Really dude? This election is about oil to you? Well news flash: the world is not anywhere near done with oil. You are 100% right that we need to transition to a sustainable alternative as soon as possible, but you're delusional if you think that's an easy thing to accomplish.

There must be over 300 million cars in this country and you're talking about replacing all of them with technology that isn't remotely viable today. Don't believe me? Go buy a $100K Tesla, and make sure you don't drive too far from one of its few charging stations.

What you're talking about doesn't have shit to do with presidential elections, and certainly not THIS election. You're talking about a dream for America's future that's decades away.

As for your claim that America leads the world in "very little," im assuming you're basing that on those statistics your high school math teacher used to throw at you: "America is number __ in engineering," or "only __% of the world's top scientists come from America." I don't know anything about those statistics, but here's an undeniable truth about our influence. We are undeniably the cultural powerhouse og the Western world. The French, the Spanish, the British watch OUR movies in their theaters, far more than the other way around. Our military is the single most globally influential organization that has ever existed. We can launch a single B-52 with a strategic nuclear payload and it instantly becomes the 7th most powerful nation on Earth.

It's a popular thing to say that America is losing its influence, I get that. I'm sorry, that just isn't true.

>>716274797
Once you get a little older you realize that there are retards on both sides, the only difference being how retardation manifests. With liberals, there is no sense of what will actually work, its all about how something feels

>>716281257
If new, well documented facts and evidence are provided to me that irrefutably prove my current belief or opinion on a subject to be wrong, I'm willing to change my opinions. That doesn't mean I can't have strongly held convictions about specific topics.

>>716280905
"deblorable"
You're right, I wrote that. It's an obvious typo, not a misspelling. The word has a fucking "P" sound.

>>716283125
>can spend billions on war
>cant afford to get out of the dark ages and upgrade their transportation and energy methods

okay bud

>>716280811
Those of us that fall into the last category are elitist because we are elite.

Cmon buddy, I've got an engineering degree, and even I can see you're retarded.

>>716272091
That pun man thanks anon

>>716283349
>irrefutably prove my current belief or opinion on a subjecto to be wrong

Why use the world "irrefutably" there? You should be reanalyzing your opinions with EVERY new piece of information.

>>716271730
fuck yes

>>71627843 War on Christmas! Muh Jesus.

>>716271730
Oh god please yes I want it.

>>716283683
We can't even stop smoking dude. We can't simply convince people to stop doing something that will literally kill them, because that's the power of habit and addiction.

Now you're talking about breaking an addiction that has been the backbone of global society for over a hundred years over the course of a four year presidential term.

We're not talking about ditching a pack of cigarettes here. We're talking about convincing people to dicth their $10K-$50K cars to buy $100K Teslas. That kind of transition logistically impossible to do in less time than decades.

For all your talk of being intellectually elite, I'm losing a lot of respect for you.

>>716279602
I don't know about you but I usually call out SJWs for being racists and sexists all the time, if you had any integrity you'd want to remove racism alltgether

>>716271730
I'm pushing for them, yes.

>>716284501
Our government can simply make new rules, similar to states with emission laws that slowly phase out certain cars. Make it so only electric cars can be created from now on, build a bunch of fuckin charging stations. Maybe even offer to trade in certain cars for electronic cars. The government has more than enough money to replace everyones car with gas-less. They dont HAVE to cost 100k.

You don't have to convince people, just phase them out and make it illegal to drive certain gas cars. Take out a bunch of gas stations, replace with charging stations. Once people HAVE to do something theyll be quick to choose it. Its really not that complicated.

>>716275737
Look this faggot up, he was a british liberal (we see how well thats going for them) obvious elitist and whiny panty who considered an hero when he was twenty. You fags can listen to his swill if you want, I would rather follow a true leader, not a cry baby.

>>716284501
Wouldn't it be easier to make the $100K Teslas $10K-$50K Teslas -something which, If I'm not wrong, Musk wantsa to do over the course of the next 10 years, this being the reason for his super-expensive factory in California- so that people start moving into them?

>>716274797
>Believes this

>>716274797
>Believes this meme

>>716280295
There's nothing worse in society than pseudointellectuals with power who genuinely believe they're intellectuals. It's like running into a fedora who thinks he's socially adept and classy.

>>716280295
Pretty much this. Damn shame too.

>>716280811
You remind me of my father. I don't like my father. He couldn't see the forest for the trees.

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>>716283125
lol have you seen teslas on the german autobahn?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8CgeT_qpB0
they arent made for that either, overheating in 5 minutes with very little highspeed

but if you drive on slow roads, they have a nice range for europe at least.

ATM the german car companys are working on roadways that can load the cars while driving which means unlimited range, but only in countries, that can afford to build them.

>>716284759
Emission laws happen on the manufacturing side, they aren't to sieze existing property from citizens. I agree that gradually increasing those laws on the manufactoring side and trying to encourage electric cars is the way to go- but guess what, that's happening right now.

Where you're going off the rails here is trying to rapidly enact this change. It's just impossible, dude. It's absolutely cartoonish to think that such a monumental change to the world could happen in such a short period of time. It demonstrates a complete disconnect with reality if you seriosly think what you're suggesting could happen in four, or eight, or even twelve years. When have you ever seen something like this happen?

You can't simply "make" people do it, and the government sure as hell can't fucking buy 300 million new cars.

I really hate to be a douche, but with every reply you make it more clear that you're actually one of those "case 1" liberals we discussed earlier. If you want to try with another topic, I'll give you a chance to redeem yourself. But this was fucking embarrassing.

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>>716275737

>>716271730

first rule: you do not ask question.

>>716284759

1. batteries are actually harder on the environment to produce, require minerals that are scarcer and more complicated and destructive to mine and produce than fossil fuels. They don't have anything near the endurance that fossil fuels have either.

2. We don't *need* petroleum to make fuel so that's a bogus argument too. Fuel can be produced by just about anyone. Alcohol, diesel, Natural Gas etc.

Trying to legislate it will result in a nation that has no ability to mine, plant grow, harvest or transport *anything*. Just wait until the minerals required to produce consumable batteries become so scarce that a single battery would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to produce.

These same armchair experts seem to think that Tax dollars grow on tree's from a nation already trillions in debt.

This is another reason why Trump Won, and why the cabinet he's building is so damn important.

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>>716277554
You mad?

Go Trump, MAGA!

>>716271730
If all you dumbfuck democrats do this, great

>>716271730
Do it already.

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perfect we can get rid of these bitchy children.

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>>716271730
I'm in her.

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>>716272091
>>716274797
>>716274945
>obvious b8 has dozens of replies
Dammit /b/, stop being retards

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Lol, maybe you should jump against trump....

>>716281257
LOL

>>716285634
TOPKEK

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>>716272510
>Sane
>On 4chan

Yeah everything checks out..

>>716283269
>With liberals, there is no sense of what will actually work, its all about how something feels

You are thinking about SJW hipster level liberals.

I could say the same thing about Trump-sucking redneck flesh-mounds.
>If you don't like the growing disparity of big money vs the down-home ordinary man. Why do you choose one of the richest corperate personalities in the world?
>If you want the government to stop taking money that it's not giving you back, why do you choose someone who has been a business profiteer all his life?
> If you want safety and independence from foreign influence, why do you defend against soviet-remnant influence?
>If you want to prolong your super-standard quality of life with cheap goods and easy labor, why try to stop our Chinese slaves from providing it to us?

Because he is flashy and different.. You don't think.. rednecks love the hype and the rest of GOPers are blind and follow whoever they are told to. Libs don't do that, and that is why Hill lost

>>716278424
Fake news? Like CNN, NPR, FOX, NBC, ABC, Washington Post, The Times, Associated Press, Huffington Post and the BBC?

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>>716281639
looks legit

>>716285627
Hm, seems like the government has no problem "making" people do all kinds of other unethical, illegal, bullshit.

It's really not that far fetched for the richest and "greatest" country to quickly change over their energy source.

I'm not saying it'll be over night, but it shouldn't take decades.

And you're right, I guess the government can't (now) buy 300 million cars... because theyve already spent that money blowing people up for the oil. Oh well, would have been nice, if we would have saved that money then they COULD have afforded to do that.

And did I even say replace all cars at once? No. They wouldn't have to replace 300 million cars at once. Hybrids and low emission cars could stay, but the gas guzzlers and out dated cars could be replaced.

Emission laws happen on the manufacturing side? I don't think Ford and GM are making laws since they're not lawmakers. Each year the allowable amount of emissions gets a little tougher. Just up that a bit more, so more cars phase out more quickly. And you could start by instantly banning all cars from, say, 1979 and earlier that don't have a modern, upgraded engine.

To think America can't fucking do this is absurd, all it takes is the will to do it. Corporate greed and government corruption won't allow it though until all the oil has been drained from earth and half the planet falls into fucking sink holes because of it.

Would take 10-15 years max to convert fully away from oil based cars.

>>716285673
yeah youre retarded. batteries cost more than oil, okay. i guarantee if we put money and effort towards refining the technology we'd find a much more efficient way to produce batteries. just because something exists as it is now, doesnt mean thats the only way to do it. look how far gas cars came in a very short amount of time, just a little scientific research should make battery production cheap and easy.

You lost any credibility when you declared Trump winning as a good thing.

>>716284759
Jesus Christ, political policy is far more complex than that, especially regarding the corruption that runs through the shit. I know from a practical objective standpoint point that the solution is simple, but politics is more than just a bunch of random rules. It's a convergence point for our entire society, overtaking control in areas of culture, finance, philosophy, war, religion, science, and god knows what else. You can't just add fucking rules like thatunless you want to live in a primarily socialist society, and in those societies, individuality rooted ethics take a back seat.

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We should make a "#DumponTrump" and try and convince these retards to shit in public

>>716286732
I'd like to see this proposed magical energy source that somehow takes zero emissions to produce, yields an immediate return (as far as energy efficiency), and is something the US can move to overnight. Please, enlighten me

>>716286732
>>716286738

First, I should address a misunderstanding:
>"emission laws happen on the manufacturing side"
I mean that the government enacts them to target the manufacturers. AKA, your new vehicle line must meet these specifications. That's how emission laws work. They don't fucking confiscate people's cars.

Now, see the post below yours. You have a childlike view of the world.

Notice that I don't even dissagree with what you're trying to accomplish, I'm arguing with you about HOW you think it should be accomplished, which is insane.

I can't keep arguing about this, I'm sorry. I'll leave you with this: you truly are an idiot. And you've proven to me that you're not half as smart as you think you are.

>>716287457
I actually need to say one more thing:

You could have picked ANY topic to impress me with. Why did you pick a topic that you're so fucking obviously clueless about? I mean you can't have seriously believed that you would look smart here.

The fact that you believe that this is your most coherently realized opinion makes me think you're even dumber than you've demonstrated here.

>>716287808
Even further he represents the mindset Hillary aligned herself with, and could have become something she would have legitimately tried to enforce.

The entire planet, not just America, dodged a bullet.

>>716283735
Being this much of a waste of biology

>>716277366
You're not the boss of me now.

>>716271730

I tried to start #Pillary but it didn't catch on.

(You overdose on your parents prescription medication in support of Hillary)