Explain why Communism works. >Protip - You Can't.

>>716025616

Everybody is provided for.
Everybody is happy.
Everyone is very productive and creative out the goodness of their spirit.
People work hard because they want to help one another.

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>>716025934
Yeah, in theory. Not in practice you moron.

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>>716025934
How well did that work for the USSR?
Bread lines where a lot of people didn't get their share, horrible economy, horrible everything. Good theory, bad practice.

>>716025992
You still can't know if it works in practice as every form of communism taken in practice has always been manipulated by the leaders of the movements
>stalin
>fidel castro

marxism in its pure form has still never been taken in practice

>>716025616
Explain why Capitalism works.

>Protip - You Can't.

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>>716026178
And that's why it fails.

>>716026178
Typical leftist argument; "b-but communism has never been tried!!!". It's been tried countless times and each time has resulted in famine, mass murder and economic downfall.
You can regurgitate the same old pathetic argument as many times as you like, it doesn't change the fact you are objectively wrong.

>>716026283
Either this is bait or you are mentally ill.

>>716026412
Dodging the question, american pig.

>>716025934
Boi if I'm working harder and did much more for my degree I demand to be paid more. I'm not gonna be paid the same and everything should be balanced with someone who didn't fucking finish their college degree. Fuck outta here with that bullshit

>>716026431
>American pig
I'm from the U.K
gg though

>>716025616
Explain why any ism works
>> pro tip, you can't

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>>716026178

>>716026366
> It's been tried countless times and each time has resulted in famine, mass murder and economic downfall

because

>every form of communism taken in practice has always been manipulated by the leaders of the movements

explain the why am I objectively wrong about the fact that an actual process of communism has never been taking place without some shit going on behind it and why it's pathetic as it's facts and not some "theory"

>>716026283
The explanation is too long, just look at the evidence.

The best countries to live in are those closest to capitalism

>>716026463
gg=pork

>>716026488
>not posting the gif version
Into the gulag you go.

The only way it will ever work is if you get 100% full participation and if every individual gives up their liberty to a government. Where they will give in and allow everything to be spoon fed equally. This will not work or will ever work in a society with millions yet thousands of people.

>>716026520
That's extremely ethnocentric of you to claim that any country that practices YOUR economic structure as being better.

>>716025616
it doesn't, it's a flawed ideoligy from the foundations

>>716026463
Eurotrash confirmed.

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>>716026463

>>716026462
a scientist and a garbage man should make the same wage.

>>716026462
/thread

>>716026603
Are you fucking retarded? The 5 biggest economies are all capitalist democracies

Guess what the 5 smallest are

>>716026517
Okay, since you are the one saying "real communism" hasn't ever been tried. Define communism for discussion purposes.

>>716026603
>ethnocentric
You clearly have no idea of what that means since i didn't mention or imply race or culture.

and it's not just my claim, it's fact. Which countries have the higher standards of living? Are they closer to capitalism or communism?

>>716026517

Communism/socialism can't work because you can't force people not to want more than their peers.

It is human instinct to have more than others to better your chance of survival and prosperity.

There is no such thing as a massive group of people, such as an entire country, who are all happy to be equals.

People have to adopt that ideal on an individual basis; it is not inherited.

>>716026669
Now I know you're trolling

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>>716025616
I wish I could pin it, exactly why it doesn't work/has NEVER worked but I think there are a couple of things.

>Low level tier
Doctors should not be payed the same as burger flippers

>Mid tier
Nobody just "wants to work out of the goodness of my heart. Fwieendss" human nature is not like that. At least the observable majority isn't and communism seems to hinge on the idea we all become ants.

>High tier
Its foundation is flawed. People say 'Oh mah marxism pure anarcho capital ferrari has not been put into practice yet' but it is like trying to creawte the perfect poo it is just more iterations of shit

>The 5 biggest economies
>The biggest
from what point of view? I bet it's from the monetary power is it? Cause in 2016 you still balance the power of something about money not viewing how much that power is slowly eating the country from the inside starting from the lowest slowly crawling to the highest? Are we in 2016 or we still talking in 1950 like a dogshit enterpreeur in his fabric with 20 empoylees making fucking honey?

>>716026517
There's no specific version of communism, so of course whoever happens to in charge is going to implement it in their own way.
That doesn't change the fact communism is directly responsible for over 100 million deaths in the past century. You can shift the blame all you like but the fact remains that communism does not work.
Any country that calls themselves a communist governement simply is not. One exception being Veneuzeula; they're under socialist rule and have resorted to eating their own pets because of the lack of food.
Point is, communism has been implemented numerous times. each and every time failing miserably.

>>716025616
It would work if people weren't selfish cunts

>>716026822
Holy shit, you can barely form a proper sentence

What the fuck are you saying nigger

>>716025616
For communism to work a large majority of the population must be almost flawless.

This seems like a dauntingly unlikely scenario.

>>716025616
If you wanna kill yourself then its a good way to get systematically slaughtered by your own government. Other than that it just creates artifical scarcity and the state hordes food and resources for the inner party. Its human nature that it will always go incredibly fucking wrong.

>>716025616
Explain why capitalism works.

>protip: you can't

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>>716026723
>implying that there's no other system possible to get more from life than to work a job and make everything to get as much money as possible to convert in things and ideas

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>>716026987
>Using questions to try and 1 up me
>Not displaying any real facts

Good try anon

>>716026987
It's already been answered ITT, faggot.

>>716026876
Show a little cognitive recognition and figure it out. Sure, he types a mongoloid, but it's understandable. Don't be ignorant.

>>716026723
This anon touches on a very valid point.
However you cut it, society will always find away to set itself in to heirarchies. Egalitarianism, like communism, is great in theory. But it's just wrong. We aren't equal and that's that.
So to give a society the means of production has proven detrimental due to a classless society being impossible to achieve.

>>716026987
Explain why I shouldn't put a free bullet into every commie and nigger I see

>protip: you can't

>>716025616

It does work. It's just horrible for everyone involved.

Communism is dictatorship with a nice tone to it.

>>716026635
>what is brexit
Try harder with your low tier insults

Maybe one day it will work. But that day is not today

>>716027035
>muh hamburger + many moneys
every capitalism explanation
oh I forgot the other one
>muh fish and chips + much dosh

>>716027133
How brain dead are you?

>>716026987
Capitalism is based on the assumption that a large majority of humans want a big shiny cock just so they can have a bigger cock than somebody else.

A large majority of humans want a big shiny cock just so they can have a bigger cock than somebody else.

>>716027083
I mostly agree, but you are wrong about egalitarianism.
It means equality of opportunity, which is entirely possible. It doesn't mean equality of outcome (equity).

>>716026831
and capitalism works so fucking well
with all those people dying everywhere and war and famines and climate heating and all that. you fucking moron. all of you. so busy beating on alternative ideas (yet idiotic, but thats intrinsic to authoritarians) you cant even look at how fucking stupid, unsustainable and uneffective capitalism is. if there was put as much energy into implementing world wide communism as there is energy put into sustaining nations and capitalism we would live in utopia shortly after.
to me communism means living to better standards, to overcome the "naturally grown" systems and ideas of humanity and to create systems and ideas that are sustainable, rational and fair.

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communism has failed at the hands of hard working factory workers and violent insurgents, does anyone actually think college weebs have a chance at 'worldwide communist revolution'?

>>716027193
and how much are you? I bet more than me anyway so I won't bother any more

>>716027216
Egalitarianism covers equality as a whole, not one specific sub-category.

>>716027232
Then you don't align with communism, you align with the people

Wanting what's best for the world ≠ wanting communism

>>716027241
this

>>716027232
He says, posting on 4chan which is hosted by CloudFlare, using his Comcast or Charter or AT&T ISP, using his computer utilizing Asus or AsRock or MSI motherboard, GSkill memory, AMD or Intel processor, sitting in his edgelord shirt and sweatpants from Hot Topic as he sips on a Starbucks coffee and listens to Miley Cirus on Spotify, sitting in a house built by private contractors and driving a car made by GM or Ford or Kia (lol Kia).

Yeah. Capitalism is fucking horrible.

>>716027386
it's not horrible it's just the reality we're living in at the moment

>>716027017

It's not implying any of that. Money is just an abstraction of power, safety, and comfort.

Because money can buy the most elegant house, or the finest art, or the highest quality food, or the most attractive prostitute, or the fastest car, then it is technically all those things at once.

You fail to see through the literal and into the abstract.

Everyone wants something literal that money repesents abstractly.

I'm not sure why I'm even bothering to try and explain this to you.

>>716027317
Yes, but this is what you're getting wrong.
Egalitarianism is about everyone having the same rights (oportunity). It's not about everyone having the same wealth (equity). It's an individualist point of view, which intrinsicly recognizes the differences amongst any two individuals and aknowledges that they won't have the same outcome because of it.

>myfuckingspacebarisgivinguponme,shit

>>716027232
The fallacy with communism is the belief that it would work if it were only larger. The issue is that the ideal is noble, but execution is impossible. Building a system with enough oversight and government in order to make it work would be such a drain on resources that communism itself is not sustainable.

The reason capitalism works is that it is all self adjusting. The individual sets the prices, and it requires little oversight. The problem people have with it is that through competition almost everyone ends up dropping prices to just over cost, so there is little profit for anyone other than those managing everything. But extreme success will always exist for those select few regardless the system of government chosen.

On the plus side, this competition keeps cost of living very low, and citizens, even poor ones, tend to live very well. One of the big upsets between the USSR and USA during the cold war was the color TV was a luxury few had...but during documentaries about the USA in USSR (they were films shown in color in theaters) to show the disparity between classes...USSR citizens noticed almost all of the lower class had a color TV. So capitalism has its issues, but it is the most cost effective form of government.

>>716027459
>it's just the reality we're living in at the moment
What reality? Where you want everything but need nothing because you're a second-year college student that thinks he has all the answers to all the worlds' problems?

I'm 28, so about 5 years ago I was where you're at. I thought I had all the fucking answers.

Then I got out into the real world. Supported myself. And I realized two things.

1. Liberals are fucking nuts
2. I didn't know shit and 80% of what I learned in college is pointless, outdated or useless in the real world

You keep posting about how evil capitalism is from your Apple iPhone, /b/reh.

>>716025616
I really hate people like you, you disgust me. You are literal scum of the earth, your no balls, low life fucking hobo who gobbles your father's cock on a daily basis when he gets home from work while your mother watches and your dog cums in your asshole. People like you deserve to burn with the kites and jews, you are worthless, just like them. You should consider suicide as no one cares about your princess faggot ass, you fucking queer, go suck a big floppy donkey dick you massive fucking cuck. You are a fucking dyke who protests along with your furry friends for gay rights while attending your furry convention you fucking nigger. You probably eat at KFC all day using your food stamps while you collect welfare from us white men. Fucking faggot, go complain about the wage gap some more you fucking cunt, you don't deserve shit you literal piece of human excrement. You deserve to die along with a the other races combined, fucking nigger.

>>716027613
This is a damn good pasta

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>>716027613
have a (you)

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>>716027613
Nice m8. Lmao.

>>716027232
Nice use of Ad Hominem there. Typical of lefties once they've been proven wrong.
There's a reason the west is part of the first world and a lot of that is due to capitalism.
How can you lecture me about how unsustainable a political method is when you support communism?
I know your type, think you know what you're talking about but in reality have absolutely no idea. You prove that by calling us "authoritarians" simply because we disagree with communism. Do you even know what that is? The every single communist leader to come to power has been an authoritarian, yet you still support it? And I'm the moron?
At no point in history has there every been a sustainable, fair and economically viable communist country. Mao Zedong is responsible for more deaths than World War 2 alone. Yet, he's considered a Marxist revoloutionary. I doubt you have any idea who he though. You probably googled "what us communism", found the definition and thought 'hm, this sounds great. I'm going to advocate it!'
Get a fucking grip of reality.

>>716027468
the fact that you're explaining this to me when I already stated money as system and also that you think you wrote that in an "obvious way" makes me understand that not only you did not get the topic of the post but also that you thought to be smart pointing what you wrote out, so you don't need any more response as you already goofed yourself alone

>>716027613
(You)

>>716027729
>>716027703
>>716027677
neck yourself you massive flaming homosexual.
Go suck Bernies cock you sensative liberal faggot.
You probably don't have a father you fucking nigger, go collect welfare and foodstamps and get back to the kitchen you fucking sack of useless shit. Shouldn't you be folding my clothes and shining my shoes are you to busy rubbing your clit you massive dyke.
You literally don't deserve to live on the same planet as me you literal, sack of horse shit.
Go jack off to fucking ponies you fedora wearing weaboo faggot, go watch your shifty Chinese cartoons while your at it.

>>716027541
I wasn't talking about it in the sense you took it as. When I mentioned it, I was saying it like because not everyone in a society is equal (not relating to anything specific) communism can't work.

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>>716027787
My god, not sure if bait or the worst edge I've seen in years.

>>716027576
This so much.
What "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" hides under the rug is the fact that you can't have an objective determination of what each can give and what each needs to take. And if you think you do you end up with gulags.

Capitalism is defined by freedom, pure capitalism is a free market, and free people.
You don't need to determine what each can give because each person will determine that by themselves, same with the needs.

In the end, the communism/capitalism discussion boils down to this theoretical question:

Should everyone be free or should everyone be well? I will always choose freedom.

>>716025934
Would it be easy for the government in power to control the ppl though? Every time there's been a communist country (I feel like I could be wrong) there has been totalitarianism coupled with communinism which gives comm a bad rep in countries like the US and U.K. And wouldn't the government not be equal to the ppl? (More powerful)
Just wondering what ppl here think

>>716027598
>You keep posting about how evil capitalism is from your Apple iPhone, /b/reh.
supposing Apple iPhone as an analogy, there's nothing wrong to criticise a system from the actual system (as there's no other actual way to do so)

>>716027854
neck yourself you massive flaming homosexual.
Go suck Bernies cock you sensative liberal faggot.
You probably don't have a father you fucking nigger, go collect welfare and foodstamps and get back to the kitchen you fucking sack of useless shit. Shouldn't you be folding my clothes and shining my shoes are you to busy rubbing your clit you massive dyke.
You literally don't deserve to live on the same planet as me you literal, sack of horse shit.
Go jack off to fucking ponies you fedora wearing weaboo faggot, go watch your shitty Chinese cartoons while your at it.

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>>716027952
The pasta is strong with this one

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>>716026639

>>716027935
>as there's no other actual way to do so
So i guess we can't criticise fascism... retard.

>>716025616
Communism in its strictest ideological sense has never been attempted. Nobody knows if it works. Every "communist" government so far has been a front for a military dictatorship.

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>>716028063
So that being said, would there be much of a difference between Socialism (or any other form of Communism and/or Marxism) and Anarcho-Socialism?

>>716028063
Yeah, it's because it's impossible to "attempt" communism without impossing it by force.

>>716027993
(Thank you, I made if myself back in 2013)
neck yourself you massive flaming homosexual.
Go suck Bernies cock you sensative liberal faggot.
You probably don't have a father you fucking nigger, go collect welfare and foodstamps and get back to the kitchen you fucking sack of useless shit. Shouldn't you be folding my clothes and shining my shoes are you to busy rubbing your clit you massive dyke.
You literally don't deserve to live on the same planet as me you literal, sack of horse shit.
Go jack off to fucking ponies you fedora wearing weaboo faggot, go watch your shitty Chinese cartoons while your at it.

I really hate people like you, you disgust me. You are literal scum of the earth, your no balls, low life fucking hobo who gobbles your father's cock on a daily basis when he gets home from work while your mother watches and your dog cums in your asshole. People like you deserve to burn with the kites and jews, you are worthless, just like them. You should consider suicide as no one cares about your princess faggot ass, you fucking queer, go suck a big floppy donkey dick you massive fucking cuck. You are a fucking dyke who protests along with your furry friends for gay rights while attending your furry convention you fucking nigger. You probably eat at KFC all day using your food stamps while you collect welfare from us white men. Fucking faggot, go complain about the wage gap some more you fucking cunt, you don't deserve shit you literal piece of human excrement. You deserve to die along with a the other races combined, fucking nigger.

>>716028128
Yeah, at least marxism isn't oxymoronic.

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>>716027787
(you) almost got quads

>>716028041
explain

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>>716028140
Well done anon. We all love your work and hope to see more from you soon.

>>716027908
There will probably be some libertarian who will reply to you and give their view on your question. My advice? Never listen to a libertarian on anything.
But I digresss.
Yes, I personally do think we need a government to keep the country from slipping in to chaos. Just look at how the middle-eastern countries were in the 60s/70s/80s compared to now.
It went to shit because their governments got fucked by so called revoloutionaries.
We as a species cannot be trusted to not have a body of government. If there is nobody to guide the populus, the populus will guide itself in to total socioeconmic breakdown.
Moreover, the west has become so reliant on governments that we simply can't not have one.

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>>716028204
At least in a large sense. People deciding to completely live on their own away from society seem to do okay, but large communities do need some kind of rules and people to help guide them, while at the same time being open to what the people want and taking their interests into account.

>>716027106
>UK left europe
>brexit wasn't about the European Union

>>716028204
I fucking hate those who call themselves libertarians. I'd call myself one if they hadn't absolutely shat all over the label with their anarchist retardedness. IMO a constitutional republic is as libertarian as it gets.

Can't call myself a liberal either because leftists shat all over that label with their neo-marxism.

"social liberal" or "classical liberal" kind of work but almost nobody knows what they fucking mean so it's useless in everyday conversation.

>>716028128
Marxism and Socialism are what come before Communism. Marxism is a method of achieving socialism. It's more of a set of theories than anything.

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>>716028394
Socioeconomic policies and practices are what make the actual thing, correct? Whereas Marxism and Socialism (more or less) is just a set of philosophies.

>>716028348
Classic liberals actually knew what they were fighting for, so in that regard I respect them.
But I totally agree with you about how millenials have just given bad names for pretty much everything.
Personally I don't call myself anything because I feel like it limits you, but if I had to call myself something I normally say centre-right.
Then people assume I'm a fascist because the moment they hear right wing they just think fascism because they're ignorant. Now people also assume it means "alt-right".
I nearly hate the alt-right as much as I hate commies.

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Gotta say, honestly didn't expect this to be that productive of a thread. Was mostly expecting people to insult each other nonstop instead of actually displaying legitimate information and philosophy. Good job /b/.

>>716028607
Fuck of retarded nigger faggot.

>>716028480
I suppose you could say Marxism is somewhat a set of phillosophies, but at the same time it's not.
Karl Marx was very very very pro-left wing. The irony of his legacy his he had no career in politics at all and yet thought he knew what would work.
He believed that in order to attain a classless society, capitalism must first be eradicated. That's about as philosophical as he got. The rest are a bunch of theories that don't work.
Socialism is a political stance which is widely viewed as a less drastic version of communism. People who say that are partly right, well, they are right but it's what comes before communism. Socialism and Communism are based upon political methods as opposed to philosophies.

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>>716028798
Good ol' fashioned /b/. Love you anon

>>716028798
thats more like it!

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>>716028835
Personally, I feel like any kind of ism is bound to be a failure, but sharing a lot of anarchist (mostly social-anarchist) beliefs, I could see where people think that Socialism could be beneficial, but at the same time, a free-trade society could also work (in theory). In reality it seems like any major or famous socioeconomic policy is an altogether fuck up of someone trying to do something good. Communism has a good intent but it's simply not practical, same thing with Capitalism, good intent to open up everyone in the sense that people can do what they want, but way to vulnerable to a hierarchical establishment.

>>716025616
Human nature. Thats why Comunism/Socialism sounds great on paper but is not applicably in real life.

>>716029037
I just think federations and republics are the most viable body of governments. Most people think the U.S is a democracy when in actual fact it's a federal republic. I'm not saying it's not without its flaws, every system has its flaws. Just at the moment it seems to be working the best,

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>>716029243
A lot of people say that the government in the US is broken or was "made corrupt from the start." In reality, if you look at a lot of the things the government in the US was meant to do, it really could work, but the problem is corruption from the highest levels of the Federal Government. When Woodrow Wilson was elected as President before WWI, he signed an order that created the IRS (before he even took office.) That in my opinion is when the US stopped being a country and became a corporation. If you strip away all the superficial bullshit laws like the NDAA and all that other power and control shit, the system does work, it just has to be kept in line. I'm an Anti-Federalist, and feel like the government should be kept small, but still should be there so it can step in when needed. The US being a Constitutional Republic (Federal Republic, call it what you will) was built on human rights and the ability to say, think, believe and do (to an extent) as you please. Problem with that is, if someone decides to do more for himself, they can, that could be the downfall of society in a sense. Corrupt politicians are what's wrong with all the isms, not the ism itself.

socialism is a theoretical anarchist system where the workers share property. Like any anarchist society it would require immense improvements in our education system. Marx called it his dream system.
In the late 19th-early 20th century disgruntled Russians it was led by Vladmir Lenin. Lenin's brother had tried to kill the tsar so Vladmir was raised around revolution. He and some friends wrote a socialist paper. Trotsky, a fan, persuade him to return to russia(Lenin left after being sent to Siberia). They toppled the government quickly, but has a long civil war with the wealthy. This led them to the horrible Povolzhye famine. Trying to survive Lenin was forced to a totalitarian state capitalist system. This was successful until they started a war with the U.S. which is still ongoing. Russia mostly used other states as a proxy, the U.S. used greed, European countries, or capitalist rebel groups. In the 90's Russia gave up and officially became capitalist. Since then everyone's been fighting the U.S.'s rebels.
communism is the same as socialism but the workers can product all the needed goods too. China did a crude version of this under someone who only remained alive because he was a weak fool.

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I'll just leave this here

>>716029553
the U.S. system wasn't made to work. The founders were all paranoid libertarian who wanted the states to hold the power. They hated the idea of United States but couldn't think of another way to beat the Brits.

I agree with your points completely. Most systems have a period where they.are effective, we just haven't had a system that could sustain socialism or communism. I assume the Democratic socialist states are working toward socialism, but the workers who make them socialist must be ones who grew under Democratic socialism. A pure capitalist society can't become socialists and definitely can't be communist

>ctrl+G
>no Sandinista National Liberation Front

You guys must not know about them. They fought oppression and murderers backed by the US to save there own people. They backed gender equality, universal healthcare, and a literacy campaign. Under their US backed dictator, peasants had no education, were killed on a daily basis, and had no freedom. The socialist government had flaws, but it was 100 times better than the US backed dictatorship before it. The contras backed by the US, by the way, killed hundreds of their women and children, something the socialist government never did.

>>716031492
Everything the US did with the treaty that gave them those Spanish areas was horrible, but Nicaragua and Cuba were the worst.

Still we can't say socialist don't kill off their population in large numbers. The Moscow trials and great Chinese famine make it obvious that socialism can be approached in equally destructive ways.

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>>716025616
because its invented by jewish zionists? but if it works... it will not hold for long. typical zionist contruct

I hope you know.

You are all morons. Please, estudy, or kill yourself, or something.

Really funny to read tho, stupidity is amusing.

>>716025616
It works for the leader for a while. Til they're killed.

>>716025616
because they are red, and red wunz go fasta

>>716027209
Simple and very true

>>716027737

If you're going to try to respond in a way that is condescending and makes you seem smart, then at least use sentences.

The single comma is completely arbitrary and pointless.

>>716032825
except its the complete opposite of the jewish construct?

North vs South Korea checkmate game win conservatives.

>>716030530
yeah it wont happen because it implies people are good. Its like retards who think less taxes on the rich will create jobs

>>716026178
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

>>716034986
it does

>>716035098
Jesus christ....

>>716035124
I know thats hard to understand. The more you tax the more people horde money and hide it.

This is a list of countries where Communism/Socialism doesn't work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRgCCY9oCoc

>>716035193
and it got worse

>>716035201
>all of them

Communism is not possible now, at least with our technology. And communism is a great idea in general which is being justified because of one bad apple in the harvest called Joseph Stalin.
I'm still amazed at the amount of the time they needed to evolve from the peasants of the king who can't even read or write to a united, educated nation and worthy of admiration.
After WW2, it was said that only by 1970 USSR would be able to fully recover. These madmen did it in fucking 1955.

Capitalism works on the retard assumption that you can let men and corporations work towards egotistical ends, but they will not fuck and make suffer those below them because they will follow rules imposed by entities with much less power.
Also you assume that people is intelligent, rational, and the "markets" are somekind of mystical god that preserves justice through the "law of offer and demand".
At least commies ackowledge that men are bastards and anyone with more power than other would abuse it, so they try to minimize the differences in power.

>>716026517
>every form of communism taken in practice has always been manipulated by the leaders of the movements
Becouse we are fucking human you moron.

>>716027017
You're fucking pathetic.

Just get a fucking job and spend your money on fun shit.

Kopotnik's Anarchism

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>>716025616
COMMUNISM WORKS BECAUSE BERNIE SANDERS PROMISED US IT WOULD TOTALLY WORK! I'LL NEVER HAVE TO LEAVE MY MOMMY AND DADDY'S HOUSE BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT IS MY MOMMY AND DADDY! YOUR RIGHTS END WHERE MY FEELINGS BEGIN! STOP OPRESSING ME! I'M A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE AND THIS IS MY SAFE SPACE!

Communism has never once worked without serious impact to civil liberties. Only delusion idealists belive such a moronic concept. The human element alone flaws the entire system.

>>716026603
Bait

>>716037171
What we all live in doesnt work either. We're all gutter crawlers in an age where we should be living in a paradise.