how does this make you feel?

>>716018412
The poor cropping is bothering me.

c|_| care cup is empty...

Superior to cartoon-watching virgins.

>>716018412
warm and fuzzy. I'm glad that this game is so inclusive even though it doesn't need to be.
For real though, representation is important across all mediums, and vidya games are more often than not sorely lacking in that field.

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>>716018477
Not to mention shitty resolution.

It was very much so "SURPRISE GAY!"

I'm okay with it but I feel like it's more about marketing than gay normalization

only thing that pissed me off as all the happy SJWs I saw on Twitter, but hey at least they are happy about something.

That scarf was for the fucking gorila!
Fucking bitch.

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>>716018412
Guess I'm off to read sunstone again...

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>>716018412
Needs more man on man. Lesbians have become too mainstream.

>>716019261
That made me mad.

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Pharra + Mercy
VVVVV
Sombra + Widow
VVVVV
All other ships.
Couldn't care less about tracer.

>>716018412
I weep at the fact that I imagine tracer would be a speed fucking machine but now she's fucking a girl???!? I quit overwatch

Sounds like tokenism to me. If they really wanted to be inclusive they'd have a gay male couple. Most of the straight homophobes I meet are totally cool with lesbians, it's the male gays they usually end up hating.

Plus it doesn't mean much as far as some people go because they can just say, "Eh, she's bi. That's even more hot."

So yeah, it's whatever.

>>716019268
I knew I was reminded of something...

It's fine by me.

I mean...

With all of the characters in overwatch, at least one was bound to be gay.

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>>716018412
It doesn't.

>>716020039
1) They shouldn't have gone with a hot girl

2) They shouldn't have gone with the main char

It just feels like pandering that way. Make it Soldier 76 or Lucio.

I don't even care about the gay part, it's the explotation for marketing sake that's pissing me off about this.

>>716020158
By main char I guess I mean box art char that everyone pretty much knows about

>>716020199
If anyone can change my mind about this though that would be great. My initial reaction is to be mad at the lost opportunity for a genuinly cool gay male relationsip .

>>716018412
I'm fine with it, sorta fits her actually.

Like a dirty filthy stinky weeaboo

I believe it fucked up the innocence that made Tracer so special.

Fuck shit ass cunt dingus

>>716020252
it's because the devs want to see some hot tracer x emily fanart >>716020110

forced but everyone saw it coming miles away
personally as someone who absolutely despises LGBT i couldn't care less. i'm more concerned of the fbi tracking my cp collection

>>716020397
But that's my problem with it. Everybody does the lesbian thing now and the fan-art is hot and awesome. Because lesbians are, and always have been, cool.

>>716020369
Yeh because taking dick up in the ass and the licking it clean would've been more innocent

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Pretty happy.

>>716020470
I guess it's true that no one really dares to venture to uncomfortable gay male side

>>716020476
If they really wanted to do something cool they could have made her asexual. Not so much representation there eh?

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You do not look at the real clue.. WHY does he have a arm? then it in-game it replace

Lookat the shoulder joint. clearly it have been replace.

We get it Blizzard, gay people exist. They're already fucking loud enough, no need to make your poster girl a lesbo so you can please the 1% of sjws on the forums.

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>>716020569
Considering there's a children show where every character is basically a lesbian I'd have to agree with you there

>>716020612
Exactly! If they actually gave a shit about it and it wasn't just some stupid marketing thing they wouldn't have done it to their box char

>>716020601
Holy shit

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>>716020158
^this
Everyone I knew or talked to irl and online were banking on Zarya or Lucio.
More or less everyone was
How can I tell? The words everyone was using.
When it came to other characters people would use the words "wish" and "hope" that such and such character was gay... And then immediately say "definitely" or "probably" end up being this and this character

If anything Blizz dropped the ball on interpreting what their fan base and their "fan base" wanted

>also I'm highly attracted to tomboy/ish girls irl
>short hair adds to it
>so don't accents

>>716020476
She could've been asexual, you damn bungalow head

>>716020601
Multiple different prosthetics
Boom
Mystery solved

>>716020612
I concur.

>>716021089
Asexuality in humans doesn't exist, don't encourage delusions.

>>716021297
You can't close it so easily! you need to have proof!

>>716019076
thats the christmas spirit anon

>>716018412
This what?

>>716021452
They could've evaded that topic.

>>716021452
Good thing it's not a game about real people! Good thing different folks have different strokes!
Good thing you're being this dense!

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>>716018412
Absolutley nothing. I dont play overwatch but tracers character design always struck me as lesbian dike anyway. put the two ninja guys together too, they look gay enough.

The only thing I care about is when Emily will be released as a character.

>>716021975
the two ninja guys are brothers

>>716022144
Handjob and Ganja

>>716018412
tbh I was hoping for a Zarya x Sombra lesbiano relationship.


Either that or one of the guys.
Imagine how much shock there would've been if it had been Reaper?
Not the hot tomboy girl scout fuck toy.

>>716021975
but they're brothers

>>716022144
Fantastic. Male on male gay action AND incest. Doesnt get more diverse than that, unless you want to get the gorilla involved too.

>>716021781
Nice meme. Laughed anyway.

>>716022394
Two Ninja brothers in hot sex.. with a very smart gorilla. Now i have seen everything

>>716018412
Really confused me, I know Brits are weird, but kissing your mom like that is a bit too much.

>>716019405
>phara & mercy

you disgust me.

genji and mercy is the only way to go

>>716018412

CHEERS LOVE, THE CAVALRY'S QUEER

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>>716021066
the bitch was fighting for freedom and equality since day one

she been lesbian

Completely forced and fucking retarded.

>we have to have our perfect pie of fake gender/race/actual gender male and female.

Blizzard has been retraded for awhile now, this just reinforces that fact.

It also reinforces that they are not different from other companies but exactly the same

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>>716018412
I fingered a lesbian before so I don't care

>>716018837
it was pretty clear tracer was a lesbo from the get go though. she's an 100% tomboy. i also had my money on torbjörn being a bear faggot but turns out hes straight

>>716019419
What are you, gay?

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>>716018412
Yuri is kindof bland, but it's there.

>>716023599
Torbjörn and Rainhardt.. That would be something.

>>716021466
It's fictional they can do whatever they want OoOoOoOoOo~

>>716021736
Triggered

sad i never did that

>>716022228
KEK

>>716023718
they probably fuck while shipped off on missions

>>716021466
>our world has multiple different prosthetics for multiple different tasks
>their world would too and it's evident theirs are leaps and bounds beyond our tech capabilities because Genji has entirely new limbs and body capable of intricate and delicate movements
Boom
He was a limb for fighting and a limb for everyday use

Is there any new rule 34 yet

>>716018412

I honestly give zero fucks about a digital non-existant character's supposed sexuality, but I find all the people screaming halleluyah about this whole affair to be utter faggots, and I wish they would stop; it's not that big or cool of a deal. So they're gay. Wupdefuckingdoo. I thought we were past this already.

>>716018412
tracers sexual orientation has no impact on the "story"...namely because overwatch doesn't really HAVE a story, as such the reveal of her sexual orientation in a canonical source was forced and outright stupid, obvious pandering to a select group of people.

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>>716020601
According to blizzard lucio also has real legs so yeah

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>>716024068
He's a canine you idiot

>>716023938
I see. Good proof sir.

>>716024216
what?

>>716023648
No dumb nigger but now that I know tracer is, I lost all motivation to play the damn game

>>716023180
Kek

>>716018412
it makes me cringe

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This is the best bit I've seen come out of this, but then again, I may have terrible humour.

>>716023977
>I thought we were past this already
Nope, people are inherently argumentative and our ability to communicate all of our shit ideas to the world has only been getting easier with time. Ten years from now we'll still be talking about stupid shit, that's just the nature of internet discourse.

>>716020569
True my friend, i don't mind gay people, but it's pretty obvious that girl on girl is way too normal and guy on guy have the "don't think about it" vibe to it.

>>716022144
So?

>>716018412
i really wish it was soldier. or lucio. or even zarya. tracer and her gf were really cute but tracer is just kind of... bland, as far as personalities in this game go.

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>>716018412

Completely indifferent because I'm not an autist.

>>716019268
is it finished yet ? I read like the first 3 chapter only to realize that the end wasn't drawn yet

Didn't sjws hate on tracers ass during game launch?

This is just blizzard trying to bait them into liking the game.

Ain't easy trying to maintain pc while pleasing both neckbeards and whales

>>716019742
genjo and hanjo are gay

>>716018412

This pisses me off, Blizzard is so stupid to do this to their main character they use to advertise the game. Why the fuck is Tracer wearing her goggles indoors?

>>716026221
t. someone who has absolutely no idea what he is talking about but jumps on the bandwagon anyway

>>716018412
>lipstick lesbians

Is this from something official?

Its the easiest cop out you could possible make.

Lesbians are so much easier for society to swallow than two gay men are, or even an interracial couple. Its like one of those half gestures of like... "I tried to give you something, but I didn't wanna take a chance and fuck up my brand, so I went the safest way about it"

Stuff like this is always going on, and honestly it doesn't surprise me. That's why Hollywood has so many sequels and comic book movies now. They have a formula that they knew is going to work, and they know when they can take the small risks like this one, and lose nothing. You bring it out of nowhere that Reaper is gay, or McCree, or maybe even Lucio, Winston, or Rein, but you went for a female hero, and you went for Tracer. How much rule 34 is there of the overwatch women already, that this is going to make a difference.

It's a half measure, but as long as they do that, then they can come off as modernized and sensitive to the issues that people consider important. It'll be good enough for the SJWs, Blizzard can make some money, and we can all go around pretending that this actually impacts anything.

putting gay characters in games doesn't stop gay kids from being bullied in school.

sjws never look tackle the root problems

>>716026776
>Lesbians are so much easier for society to swallow than two gay men are

Hey man, no one likes man faggots.

the reason i dislike it is because they had to make a token gay character because of what they have said at blizzcon. It was never planned that way and as a result they way they have done it sucks.

>>716027006
except tracers the gayest character, second to zarya. she's a tomboy to and through..

>>716027006
This is sort of how i feel about it. What was blizzard thinking with the way they revealed it?

>we got sad winston because tracer isn't there
>tracer is off doing important stuff!
>oh how nice she's clearly buying presents for winston that's why she's late
>oh shit let's drop this particular storyline while i show you something much more important
>look guys it's tracers home
>and she lives with another woman
>and she gives her a christmas gift
>and now they kiss
>you can tell because i zoomed in on the kiss and framed it in the most awkward way
>as you can see we've clearly demonstrated that tracer is in fact gay
>now let's continue with the actual comic storyline of winston being alone
>and while we're at it let's allow this noname never before seen or heard from character to tag along just to remind you guys that she is, in fact, important to tracer
>because she's gay

From a plot perspective, this was done in the most rubbish way possible.
Perhaps Blizzard is hoping that this will finally cause the lgbt community to shut the fuck up for once and they just decided to get it over with.

the biggest upset is that tracer can take off her chronal accelerator and still stay in the present

>The chronal accelerator can be taken off and still keep Tracer in the present as long as it on and she is near it.[5][6]

fuck off

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>>716018412
makes me wish all the faggots of the world would hurry up and disease themselves out of existence...or just kill themselves.

>>716027580
Missed drama opportunity there, really. Would have been much more interesting if she couldn't take it off.

Eh, i like it. i'm more upset that Ana x Rein isn't happening, because Grandparents are best.
I'll go sit in my corner with the weird Hanzo x Mcree porn and wait. If you guys are complaining it isn't a gay ship this totally off the wall crap is probably going to happen to uh...help...fans connect? Fuck if I know.

>>716018837
>Representation is important
Why is it important? What purpose does it serve?

>>716027810
her entire character is a mess. supposedly she was stuck in a ghost hell of non-existence for several months after an experiment misfired, yet still she's the most cheerful and care free character. one would think such a thing would completely fuck her up mentally. plus she's a follower of a buddhist monk when she really doesn't strike me as the type

>>716020158
Pretty much, I don't mind having gay characters in video games but Blizzard is obviously pandering to SJWs, they even acknowledged them when Zarya was released.

These fucks aren't even a large enough group of players to make a difference and yet Blizzard is more than happy to bend the story to their whim

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>>716028336
Fantastic, I don't know what could trigger them more

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>>716028404
Glad Russia banned this disgusting degenerate comic. It's sicked how they just made a comic to push their gay agenda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMVs7u0i-QE

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>>716018412
whaaa..

>>716028550
Eh I don't think banning certain media is the answer, but I'm all for drinking tears of the butthurt

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>>716018412

It makes me look back at the Butt Pose nontroversy and kek mightily because Blizz subverted the lesbo gaze.

>>716028093
As a follower of Zen I can honestly say the real Buddhist monks that you never actually meet are a bunch of really fun people to be around. They're actually pretty hilarious, fun loving, and somewhat lackadaisical.

It's really weird.

>>716020158
I'm sorry, but isn't that already fulfilled by Junkrat and a certain jolly fatman?

>>716018412
>how does this make you feel white male?

>>716018837
Introducing sexual orientation brings shit all to the game. Blizzard are just cucks trying to please SJW faggots

>>716027254
>>716026776

tbh at this point I'd love to see them just release some official material where Zarya grabs up Lucio and rams her tongue down his throat and takes him as her sub boytoy,

Partly for the fetishism, and partly because people's brains would melt.

>>716028846
huh i would never suspect. never met a monk but i thought they'd be more solemn like they're portrayed in the movies

>>716019001
Agree with that. They get massive free publicity from the lgbt and sjw fags which gets them more sales.

>>716018412

She likes pussy, so what?

>>716029048
kek

>>716029181
It's the principle of the thing. The only reason they made Tracer a lesbo is the same reason why they made Zarya. They're pandering to a certain group, but in this particular instance the group they're pandering to gets their way through throwing a tantrum and demanding safe spaces until they get the inclusive character they want.

And to top it all off they aren't even the major consumers of the product in question, this instance being Overwatch.

>>716018412
Tracer always looked like a dude, so is it surprising? Dont get why anyone except fags would waifu her anyway

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Anyone who doenst find all of the pure salt hilarious has no sense of joy.

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>>716018412
when i found out i was fucking furious
i hate lesbians a lot
one woman is bad enough, but two? together? that just disturbing

>>716029300
the only one throwing tantrums and demanding straghit characters right now are you fedora PUAfags

>>716018896
That cropping
>We have entered levels beyond autistic. We have ascended the autist

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>>716029441

I'm fine with it being Tracer lore wise, but I had 10 quid down on McCree being the token gay one.

>>716029048

>racemixing
>strong woman dominating a man

>two of the most potential lgbt characters are canon straight
>black man being subservient to a white

Jesus, the perfect storm of rustling both sides.

>>716029505
lucio seems like straight dude that picks up scandinavian tourists on his brazilian beaches though

>>716029505
Mother of god you're right
Let it happen
Let the hate flow through the SJW's clogged arteries

>>716029649
Have you ever been to a gay club?
They only bump the best music. Seriously, go to a gay club and just listen to the music and you will find not one bad song plays
>also, his mannerisms, body type, and attire scream 'cock hound'

>>716026140
Been finished for a bit now. Only a couple months but it's past chapter 5

I dont even play that game, and I went on the forums to enjoy the pathetic whingers complaining about it.

the threads titled "As a top 500 straight male" and "my waifu tracer is dead" were particularly hilarious.

>>716019338

Fuck that, man on man is disgusting. Woman on woman is hawt! Maybe trap on woman?

>>716028666
source pls ?

>>716030332
Still in highschool i see

>>716030000
checked

>>716030157
>the threads titled "As a top 500 straight male" and "my waifu tracer is dead" were particularly hilarious.

Is it that fucking difficult for people not respond to something like this?

Hell, if they didn't know that people were gonna make such a fuss I bet blizzard wouldn't have done it.

>>716024680
you have terrible humor. ross is an annoying bitch. they should have never let him be a part of game grumps.

>>716027704
Wish virginity would do the same to people like you.

>>716018477
>>716018926
this.

also who the fuck cares. i can still pwn people on Tracer, regardless if I rape their bodies after or not.

>>716018412
I'm fine with it, and it's hot. Tracer is cute, imo.
One question, though. Why do devs/authors/artists/creators always wait to release this info? If they're gay then just release the info right upon release and say they're gay.

It reminds me of J.K. Rowling revealing Dumbledore was gay. Again, fine, great, good for you, but why'd you wait til months (years? I don't remember how long it was after the 7th book was out) after the release to say that info?

>>716029438
There is literally no other reason to have Tracer be gay except to pander to feminists. They literally threw a tantrum and Blizzard conformed with Zarya per their own statement

When you have an entire character who's only purpose is to pander to people who get their way through pretending to be the mass so they can control the public dialogue that seems pretty disgusting to me.

Pretty hilarious how delusional you are though, what correlation does any of this have to pickup artists?

>>716031323
Because they never were gay originally, that's the entire point.

The only reason they suddenly change these characters is because they think it will get more sales from "progressives".

>Feminists say X isn't inclusive enough
>They start some bullshit usually in the form of a change.org petition
>Thousands of their fellow social justice types sign it out of blind support because they want "diversity"
>X conforms to said group because the large representation of people is believed to be their demographic lashing out

>In reality the only thing accomplished is changing the story to fit into the widest array of narratives.

It's the same thing that happened essentially when Target decided to ban GTA5 from their stores. These people get in a large group and claim to be the consumer so they can have power over a company.


Realistically I don't give two fucks if Tracer is a lesbo or not, it's the larger idea that you can have these groups of extremists control what companies do and say because a few extremists are bending the public dialogue to their whim.

How many video games need to be trampled on before people start giving a shit?

>>716031333
> There is literally no other reason to have Tracer be gay except to pander to feminists.
is it the same with every real, living, actual lesbian chick?

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU. THIS SHIT HAPPENS. DEAL WITH IT.

>>716019001
IT'S OVER 9000!!!

>>716029903
well ive never been to a gay club but you make a fair point. seems like i have to work on my gaydar

>>716031878
I guess reading isn't your strong suit. The problem isn't with Tracer herself being a lesbian dipshit, it's about the fact that the company most likely only introduced it to pander to a small faction that in reality doesn't even play the damn game like they did with Zarya.

Do you even play Overwatch? Because if you did you should know that the stated reason Zarya and Lucio were introduced were because these groups complained enough.

Give me one reason why we should listen to these fucks. Because of diversity? Because people's feelings will be hurt? Well they can fuck right off

>>716018412
I'm annoyed that everyone automatically assumes 100% gay, she could be bi with a leaning towards girls.

>>716031333
>waaah it disgusting
>you're all delusional
kys butthurt fag

>>716018837
Representation in video games doesn't matter at all, it's all about gameplay and fun, not about pushing your agenda and representing "oppressed" minorities. That's also why feminism and pretty much all social activism have no place in vidya and shoudln't have one.

>>716031772
>How many video games need to be trampled on before people start giving a shit?

its pretty obvious you dont even play overwatch. the entire shtick about the characters is that they're diverse and stereotypical for their each demographic. play any of the other 1000 grimdark shooters with white brownhaired straight male hero if youre such a devout centrist

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Don't really care, because i'm not an autist who plays overwatch.

>>716032267
which part of "being gay happens" you dont understand?

>>716032541
Remind me how many Pink haired dyke powerlifting female russians exist again?

Oh right, I forget that Russia is fairly progressive.

>>716031772
>Because they never were gay originally, that's the entire point.

Oh shit man, did you work on Blizzard's writing team?
Cool, what's it like?

Blizzard have actually said they planned Tracer like that from the start.

Nothing. I feel nothing. Why do people still give a shit about stuff like this?

>>716032879
source?

>>716032853
>buhh how many cyborg ex yakusa samurais exist?? checkmate!!

>>716032782
What part of it isn't the gay that's the problem don't you understand?

Here's something interesting to consider, the over-representation of these "diverse" groups has lead to a disproportionate mindset of people who believe that a certain amount of the population is gay.

I bet if 80% of the cast was lesbian you would be still rambling on about "gay happens".

Nobody gives a shit about Tracer being gay, it's the principle of SJWs having their slimy fingers trying to control everything people enjoy.

Fucking hell there were even multiple articles a while back claiming that metal music wasn't representative enough of diverse groups and was too homophobic.

>>716032879
where'd you rea that at?

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>indifferent
the entire lgbt fad is an old meme by now. it's just another lifestyle trend that went out of fashion after being overexposed in the mainstream.

>>716032651
But you do play overwatch, right?

>>716032879
>>716032908
I would like to see that source too

I can already guess what it's going to be though. Blizzard sending out a statement within the last week to backtrack saying "lol guys tracer was gay all along we just didn't bother telling you"

>>716033118
Doesn't it strike you as even the slightest bit strange that the national hero of Russia in Overwatch is a power lifting dyke with bright pink hair who represents possibly one of the most anti-gay countries on the planet?

There's nothing strange about this, being gay just happens guys

>>716033118
>triggered
He's a ninja, not a samurai, silly

>>716033440
Nope, I never got the hype for the game so I just never bothered with it.

>>716033594
So you're an autist?

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>>716033678
If you want to think so, then sure.

>>716033504
No, it's nor strange, because she's a militaristic patriotic war hero representing a militaristic country that really loves to glorify their athletic champions. thats the stereotypical part they got right. the fact shes a butch dyke doesnt matter because its in the FANTASY FUTURE where sentinent robot monks and talking scientist apes exist

I have an interesting question, for everybody here doesn't matter what position you have on any of this.

What percentage of a modern first world country is gay? Without googling just off what you've seen, the portrayals of homosexuality in our media.

Give me a percentage estimate of how many gay people exist in the average first world country

they look pretty cute.

>>716032908
>>716033159
>>716033504

I've been trying to find a source to quote for you guys that isnt Kotaku, but sadly, I cannot, since it's something Blizzard said to them when questioned.

http://kotaku.com/our-thoughts-on-overwatchs-tracer-being-gay-1790338620
Here's the article, and here's the direct quote for not-having-to-give-kotaku-clicks purposes.

>Update—5:40 p.m.: Shortly after publication, Blizzard sent Kotaku the following statement about Tracer. Here’s their thoughts about Tracer’s sexuality:

>As in real life, having variety in our characters and their identities and backgrounds helps create a richer and deeper overall fictional universe. From the beginning, we’ve wanted the universe of Overwatch to feel welcoming and inclusive, and to reflect the diversity of our players around the world. As with any aspect of our characters’ backgrounds, their sexuality is just one part of what makes our heroes who they are. From the very beginning of our work on Tracer’s story, it just felt right to make this an aspect of her character.

>From the very beginning of our work on Tracer’s story, it just felt right to make this an aspect of her character.
Being the focus here.

And yeah, they've never mentioned it before - but when should they have mentioned it?
If'd they'd put it into one of the shorts somehow, then it would've been even more "WOW THIS IS SO FORCED BLIZZARD FUCK YOU".

>>716018412
I thought it was lovely OP

>>716033876
including bi fags, maybe 5%

>>716033900
Kotaku has been known to just straight up lie for their stupid SJW causes. If you can't find anything other than kotaku then it's useless.

>>716020711
I'm so lost
Tracer IS the character on the front of the box

>>716033876
2-10% according to wikipedia

>>716033900
>If'd they'd put it into one of the shorts somehow, then it would've been even more "WOW THIS IS SO FORCED BLIZZARD FUCK YOU"
this
The people who claim that their only problem with this is that it is ad-hoc, are simply lying.

>>716034226

Yeah, I'm not 100% convinced by anything I read from kotaku - worth noting I originally saw it in a screencap on /vg/ before just now discovering it was kotaku.

That said, I still maintain that it could well have been in her design since day one, but there's never been a good time to put it in that wasnt just forced - a character celebrating christmas with her girlfriend is pretty much the only time they've had a chance to show it.

>>716020158
She's on the cover of the box, pretty main

>>716033900
Well there it is then. If Blizzard claims that she was a lesbian all along I don't really have a problem with it.

There is no evidence to suggest she wasn't and therefore I'll simply accept it. Although now this simply means that they are more than happy to completely change an entire character for the sake of "diversity".

So let's take what Kotaku says seeing as Blizzard for SOME STRANGE REASON decided to only give Kotaku this statement. "It just felt right to make this an aspect of her character" sounds like a bullshit cop-out to me considering you can apply that to literally any train of thought.

All of this is assuming Kotaku of all places is telling us the truth, which I highly doubt.

Forced LGBT shit. this is bad.

>>716028093

>one would think such a thing would completely fuck her up mentally

Or maybe being cheerful for her is a coping mechanism? Or maybe she just overcame it through strength of character? Or maybe going through such an ordeal made her realize that life is worth living to the fullest?

Not everyone who goes through hell comes out broken.

>>716034490
>Although now this simply means that they are more than happy to completely change an entire character for the sake of "diversity".

I agree with everything else you said, but Im not sure I see where you're getting that from.
I mean, if they HAVE planned for her to be gay from day one, then they hvent changed anything. And if they didnt have it planned for her since day one, they havent really changed her entire character - she hasnt had any mention of relationships before this so it was a null area which didnt have any detail.
She was assumed to be straight because everyone always is of course, but saying 'she isnt, by the way' doesnt actually change all that much about her.

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>>716024472

>now that I know tracer is, I lost all motivation to play the damn game

That's pretty pathetic, anon.

>>716033900
Is this not forced though?

Not only this but forcing a particular mindset only serves in the end to damage the mindset in question. The more you push something the larger the backlash against it.

If they simply said at one point "yea tracer is gay by the way" nobody would give a shit. It's the presentation and in your face nose rubbing that sets people off.

I know saying I don't care about people being lesbians won't be believed since many people here seem to automatically think everything a person they disagree with says is a lie, that probably won't convince them.

All I want is to play my fucking video games without having LGBT diarrhea shoved down my throat, is that too much to ask?

>>716034621
I don't really re-read my posts before posting them, I was more speaking of they will create a character simply for diversity purposes. Not necessarily change them. The changing in this instance being the idea that the character wouldn't have been gay at one point in time. They don't start out in most cases saying "alright lets make a gay character". And if they did, that would pretty much prove my point, which I actually don't want.

I WANT to be wrong with this shit, but I can't help but wonder when I see Kotaku of all places being the place that holds up high the pedestal of tracer's being a lesbian. And all of the articles they make about how diverse and inclusive the characters of Overwatch are.

But yes I am mistaken, I didn't mean "they changed the character because ____" If what Kotaku states is true anyway. If they didn't change the character then she was created. Created for the sake of diversity rather than changed from what was. Whether or not that's a bad thing is up to individual opinion.

>>716022394
Kek

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>Game about murdering each other
>Lets shoehorn some PC crap in the game

>>716032482
riiiiiight

because no one at blizz is lgbt and having ANY characters also be lgbt is "representation" where as having them all be cis straight characters is an "accurate representation of the general public"

LMFAO!!!! hahahhahahahahahhahahahha

>>716034698

How is it 'in your face nose rubbing' though?
It's a side comic which you dont have to read, in which one character is trying to get a present for her girlfriend. Then you see a guy with his five million children, and the rest of the cast going about their christmases.

Like, I'd 100% agree with you if they changed one of her in-game lines to be something like "Merry Christmas, loves! The cavalry's queer!", or made it as one of the christmas shorts, since those so far have been pretty important concurrent lore. But the comics have so far all been like, sideline backstory and shit that's totally not important if you dont want to read it.


>>716034980
Well I mean, the standard guess at how many people are gay tends to sit at about 7% ish, right?
So having ONE gay character out of 23 is actually pretty much wholly accurate. If they make another six lgbt characters then I'd 100% agree with you, but thus far its not even out of character for population estimates.

I do see your point, but I just dont think it really applies - not yet at least.

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ayy lmao

>>716031323

Why? When you meet someone for the first time do they say "Hi, my name is Anne and I'm a lesbian. Nice to meet you. What's your sexual orientation?"

It has no impact on the game so why the fuck would they have to reveal that info on day 1? I thought this method was much better.. more organic in the way that it came up. It wasn't some big announcement, but a few cells in the comic.

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>>716035143
So you want an accurate representation of the general public in your games now?

Okay, well since only about 3.8% of the population identifies as LGBTQ I guess you'll just have to deal with one gay overwatch hero :^)

>>716028550
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... and all the other comics were pushing their straight agenda.

fuck straight rights!!

>>716035286

Ok =)

>>716035224
>In your face nose rubbing
Well when I was reading the comic when the entire screen was literally a giant Jpeg of Tracer and her girlfriend making out that seemed pretty in your face to me. Not just a small panel but the entire screen, but hey it's up to everybody's interpretation. Also the idea that Kotaku had to do an entire article on this and that this thread was created for the sole purpose of rubbing it in people's faces.

Not trying to be a condescending prick but it certainly is "in your face". The first romantic relationship represented of any kind in this game just happens to be Tracer's lesbian make-out session.

But yea I don't really have too much of a problem with this specific instance. I just get that feeling that we're not going to see the last of Overwatch LGBT antics.

In america at least as well the entire LGBT community (including Bi, etc) is around 3-4%. But yea having gay characters isn't particularly upsetting.

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>>716035286
They would still have to get to like 38 heroes before it became statistically significant to add a LGBTQ hero

They're lucky they got one. Ungrateful faggots.

>>716035640
I'm waiting for them to start shipping Tracer X unamed GF X Winston bestiality orgies for diversity purposes.

I wack it to furry porn and demand Winston to pound that tracer pussy. Where's my inclusive games dammit

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>>716035596
>entire screen
Shit son, how are you reading the comic?
For me it's just like pic related.
Then the next page has a large shot of Torb with what's presumably his wife in his lap, and a million children in the background who Blizz have confirmed are Torb's kids.
I think the real message to take away here is that Torb's wife is exceptionally fertile.

Jokes aside, I really dont think it's that in-your-face - if it was forced on you to read it then sure, I'd definitely agree.
As is, it's a small part of a comic which is an optional read.

As for Kotaku doing an article on it, half the games-based internet did articles on it. Which I will also agree is ridiculous, but in CURRENT YEAR, it's still a big deal to some people.
See the ones flipping out that it's amazing, as well as the ones flipping out that it's literally degeneracy which is going to bring down western society.

I mean christ, Im a fucking dyke and this isnt a huge deal to me - it's nice that one of my favourite characters in the game is a lesbo, but its not exactly world-changing.
That said, I guess I dont live in the states where a lot of the lgbt community is a bit worried about their position in a country where Pence is about to become VP.
Everything's context, I guess.

Also worth noting that as a dyke im probably also vaguely biased to not feeling like this is in-my-face forced while you might find it is. But eh.

i want a character that has a dog and is openly a zoophiliac.
blizzard, make it true

>>716036092
Huh, I was reading that strange moving version where you have to click every damn time you want to see the next image. I didn't bother shutting it off out of laziness, when I was reading it that single panel just kind of appeared like "Hey look at us making out".

At the end of the day though it doesn't particularly matter to me, people can do whatever the fuck they want for all I care, It's just silly like you say that there has to be articles about it everywhere you look

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>>716036395
Do you think they would actually do something like that if enough people signed a change.org petition?

>>716036092
One thing that was bothering me, was that scarf actually for Winston? When she's opening it Tracer seems like she didn't mean for it to be opened by her GF. Also the entire comic it seemed to foreshadow her shopping for a present for Winston the entire time

PLEASE STOP TRANSDIMENTIONAL DISCRIMINATION all dimentions are equal

>>716036935
I dont know, it's not really clear - at the same time, it does seem that way but it also seems odd that Blizz would go for that in a character they evidently seem to want to be likeable.

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>>716018412

Oldfag, Centrist Lobertarian, Alt-right supporter and Bi here. Have to hide my Bi-ness from normies. For career and what nots.

Firstly, never really cared. Most of my friends have always been Alt in some fashion and generally my closest consisting of a gay or two.

Secondly, watching the rise of homosexuality as a "norm" especially from people trying to be different raised a very intruiging question. Why so popular now? Why so much angst from the 1 to 3 percent? Why so much agenda on the left?

Lo and behold: The Behavioral Sink
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink?wprov=sfla1

When placed in a society with pure abundance and no strife psyche and physiology change drastically. Morality and therefore healthy mechanisms of control give way. Females and Betas lose their shit and revolt on the Alphas which once guided and even controlled the group. Betas become violent and homosexual over indulging in baser lusts and desires. Females leave their Alpha find their way into another Alpha's control and even subsiding to reproducing with betas. Healthy restraint no longer presides and Chaos seeks to correct this anomaly. Fighting ensues and death tales the heards only after a mass explosion in population.

Now, what does this teach us?

People and animals NEED control mechanisms. Whether it be food shortages and Parental or Societal Overwatch. These control mechanisms can be weighty when the government applies them but freeing when we use our brains to apply our own(IE: get an education and do something worthwhile). Pax must be controlled. it is only a stronger, smarter and more educated that are obviously qualified to be at the top tiers.

We can sit here all day long and say that we are free and we are XY or Z but the reality of the matter is that we are our own worst enemies. We will give in to our lusts before we explore our true freedoms. This study IS science, serious thought need be given to its ramifications on traditional gender roles!

>>716023081
Torb and bastion is the only ship!

>>716030681
Awww, was someone not able to beat his Mario Maker levels?

>>716028666
Eugh, source filmmaker is cancer.

>>716034543
im just sticking with my theory she's batshit insane

>>716037345
roadhog and bastions small bird would be the most realistic couple

>>716037131
shut the fuck up nerd this is an overwatch thread

>>716018837
Obvious troll
Kys

>>716019419
She's bi

>>716018412
>Ever get that feeling of gayja vu

>>716040152
lol

How does this change the gameplay?

If what sexuality a fictional character is pisses you off you need to take a good hard look at your life.
Then sort it the fuck out. Loser.

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>>716041568
Annoyed my picture of Reinhardt as an old soldier who never found love is not confirmed.

>>716041568
Exactly

On a related note I want bestiality depicted in Overwatch as well, it isn't diverse until Tracer starts sucking off winston

>>716041729
Bastion needs to get his robodick inside mei's little icebot thing.

I get that the comic was a little rubish and felt a bit like "Surprise Gay" but how come writers can't have a gay character without it just being 'Pandering'. Wouldn't it be pandering to NOT make a gay character for the sake of not pissing people off as well? Is there any winning in the situation? If I honestly sat down and wrote a character I made being gay, what would people from just saying I did it to please people.

>>716041901
Personally I don't think it was pandering. It was pretty much just "btw tracers gay".
The other characters didn't all suddenly pop up and throw a pride celebration or some shit.

But you can't please everyone. People like to bitch, and when that thing is "geek" related, it's multiplied by a thousand.

>>716019338
THIS

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The reality is it's not important besides with overwatch story has literally no part in the game and let's say you care about the stiry,what difference does being a lesbian make
TL;DR:it doesn't matter where a character sticks their dick or gets shoved in them I'll play for fun and pay attention to a story because it's intriguing not because tracer likes to scissor fight emily

>>716019338
a-fucking-men

Really though, I liked the comic, it was a nice little Christmas story, and I didn't think the surprise gay was even too bad. More than anything, I liked the panel that showed everybody else, especially since it gave a little more insight into both Widowmaker and Reaper, in that they are both still human and still feel.

>>716018412
Makes OW fuck marry kill easier

>>716018412
Nothing. It's a cartoon. Only autistic people react on cartoons.

>>716036092
>Tracer gives present meant for friend and fellow soldier to lesbo
>gets sex for it
>also isnt wearing the contraption that mother fucker made her to sustain her existence in one time instead of being torn apart by the infinite cosmos
>but hey, she grabbed some puss
>lesbians are worse than men

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>>716033152
Fucking metal
Music

>>716018412
Baffled by the fact this is what made people flip their shit, as opposed to you know, Overwatch being a fucking awful competitive experience.

>>716038927
that would just be jontron

y'all niggas arguing about an imaginary character. jesus fucking christ

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>>716018412

>>716018412
dont care at all at least more people will buy the game because of this and blizzard will make more free events

>>716020457
>fbi tracking my cp collection
kek

>>716018412
Makes me question my sexuality

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>>716038927
His name's Ganymede, and GanyHog is now my OTP. Thanks...

>>716042798
it's not about the imaginary character it's about SJW's fucking everything up, sure this one isn't that big of a deal but it's starting to get annoying that they're "diversifying" shit for the sake of a group that doesn't even fucking play video games

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>>716020090
underrated post

>>716041568
I'd say most intelligent people are more interested in the underlying reasons the creators decided to even mention a fictional characters sexuality.

Great misunderstanding the entire reason behind all of this, though.

>>716028012

>telling kids its okay to be gay

Yeah.. why is that important. Especially in the autism we're floating in right now in our society.

>>716043217
THIS

>>716024680
dicks out for harambe

>>716018412
ANGRY AS FUCK FUCKING FAGGOTS RUINED A GOD TIER GAME THEY >>716018477
SHOULD COMIT SUICIDE

>>716043217
> I'd say most intelligent people are more interested in the underlying reasons the creators decided to even mention a fictional characters sexuality.

Oh gee I wonder. It's not like sexuality is a core component of a person and intrinsic to almost literally everyone.

Are you fucking stupid?

>>716043224
Telling kids it's okay to be gay as you put it isn't the same as including characters in media for the sake of diversity.

Not including a lesbian isn't equivalent to telling kids that being gay isn't ok. What you've done is commonly called a false equivalency. babby's first logical fallacy, congrats.

They should of went with that Russian chick with pink hair.
What if the girl in red was just a friend and didn't get Tracers consent.

>>716043224
The real reason that character development and representation in Overwatch is actually important is that the design team put a heavy focus on making the characters feel unique, they specifically stated they wanted people to feel an attachment to a character before they even know how they played.

You won't get a good spread for people unless you represent many different things.

Telling people it's ok to be gay isn't really part of it, no one gives a fuck in the western world anymore.

>>716043397
Yeah let's pretend that fictional characters are as diverse and random as the real world is.

Or we could be realistic and realize that fictional characters that are fleshed out enough to have sexualities are created that way for a fucking reason.

Get your head out of your ass for one second, the reason I mentioned above is what people are questioning.

Jesus christ.

>>716043536
>Telling people it's ok to be gay isn't really part of it, no one gives a fuck in the western world anymore.


Americans are literally divided right down the middle on the issue.

>You won't get a good spread for people unless you represent many different things

Looking forward to one of the characters coming out as a closet pedophile then. My money's on Mercy.

>>716043420

>Telling kids it's okay to be gay as you put it isn't the same as including characters in media for the sake of diversity.

I agree

>Not including a lesbian isn't equivalent to telling kids that being gay isn't ok. What you've done is commonly called a false equivalency. babby's first logical fallacy, congrats.

Oh this is neat. Tell me, when you get to the wizard who's going to get the brain you or the strawman?

>>716044114
They are divided on the middle for marriage maybe, 20 years ago coming out as gay was a problem, now it's a celebration. Don't blow smoke up my ass about how people discriminate against gays, christian conservatives draw a hard line at marriage but few do much beyond that.

>closet pedophile
Nice strawman

>>716018412
I love redheads.

>>716044252

>You won't get a good spread for people unless you represent many different things.

It fits within the parameters you've set, muffin. Either tell me why I am wrong or change your position.

>Don't blow smoke up my ass about how people discriminate against gays,

Mike Pence is the vice president. Everyone knew his position before he became the Vice President.. The world sure is nice with these blinders on.

>christian conservatives draw a hard line at marriage but few do much beyond that

You do realize you not seeing discrimination in your sphere of influence isn't the same as discrimination not existing, right?

>>716044202
Do you even know what a strawman is? What I did was mock your position and the way it was presented, a strawman would be if I were to claim that all lesbians were bull-dykes fingering each other's assholes at light speed while good christian cis-white men uphold the moral standards of a society against the degeneracy. That is a strawman, now please I don't really like holding your hand through critical thinking.

>>716019405
did she just hack her pussy

>>716044604

>Do you even know what a strawman is?

Yeah.

> What I did was mock your position and the way it was presented

No, you completely misrepresented my position by postulating that I was arguing if Blizzard didn't include a lesbian character then they were saying it wasn't okay to be gay. It felt like you learned a cool new phrase and just couldn't wait to use it.

> a strawman would be if I were to claim that all lesbians were bull-dykes fingering each other's assholes at light speed while good christian cis-white men uphold the moral standards of a society against the degeneracy.

No, that's just bigoted gibberish. Strawman arguments misrepresent opponent's position, this isn't that.

>now please I don't really like holding your hand through critical thinking.

I am surprised you can tie your shoes on the first try, not really sure where your ego got inflated.

>>716032651
But you are an autist, right?

>>716045023
Your exact words were a sarcastic attempt at a misrepresentation, if anybody was using a strawman it was you. At no point did I ever say "Gay kids shouldn't feel safe" or some bullshit like that, and yet you tried to represent my argument as such

Your exact words were

>telling kids its okay to be gay

Yeah.. why is that important


My question was clear: Why is "diversity in video games important" and your response was that. And you're going to pretend that I'm the one setting up strawmen? Laughable at best. I'm still waiting on the reason why you think diversity is important, or was that pathetic attempt at misrepresentation the only thing you could come up with?

I just realized that making Zarya confirmed gay first could have been a fucking landmine.

I could hear it already, only because she would have been a considered stereotype. I could be wrong, but considering how people can be mad about just about anything It wouldn't be shocking at all, and probably hilarious.

It feels like watching a soap opera, watching people who don't even play overwatch force their views on a pretty simple fps.

>>716046348
I think Zarya is based as fuck

>Looks like typical self-hating bull dyke feminist
>Acts like a super racist Russian patriot ready to smash anyone different from her

>>716046589
See I actually like Zarya, she's one of my top 10 overwatch characters despite my burning hatred of the sjws

Also there's the fact that if she was a real life person the sjws would be completely butt blasted by her mere existence. Because let's face it, they will never be happy.

>>716046175

>Your exact words were a sarcastic attempt at a misrepresentation,

Right, except for the part of misrepresentation. I wasn't calling you a bigot. Your position was that there isn't a purpose for representation among characters. I pointed out a purpose, which was, "Hey it's cool that Blizzard is showing kids that it's okay to be gay". Which you in turn, showed up your ass and concuted this..


>Not including a lesbian isn't equivalent to telling kids that being gay isn't ok. What you've done is commonly called a false equivalency. babby's first logical fallacy, congrats.

Which had fuck all to do with anything I was talking about.

>Yeah.. why is that important

I think it's important to show a community of, mostly teenagers, some of whom are gay, that the characters which are represented as role models could be homosexual and society wouldn't shun them for that shit. I just think it's cool for Blizzard to do that shit.

>My question was clear: Why is "diversity in video games important"

I joined halfway through the conversation so I understand the miscommunication. I zero'd on the homosexuality and if you were talking about a broader topic then I see how that must have fucked everything up.

> And you're going to pretend that I'm the one setting up strawmen?

You did setup a strawman, I didn't.

>I'm still waiting on the reason why you think diversity is important,

An accurate representation of the world will educate that different creeds can exist peacefully together. I wonder if that's important in society.

>>716046786

Agreed, she is definitely one of my favorite. It honestly is nothing against her.

>>716046830
You're actually a faggot. I hope you get raped.

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>>716047193


>mad cus bad

>>716046830
>Your position was
No actually, you don't know what my position was because I didn't state it, nice attempt at putting words into my mouth though.

Believe it or not I don't have a position on this. I asked a simple question which you misrepresented by imagining my position without any context when in fact all I did was ask a simple question which you finally answer in this post

>An accurate representation of the world will educate that different creeds can exist peacefully together. I wonder if that's important in society.

I also wonder if it's important, which is why I ask. So tell me, exactly and specifically. WHY is it important? I want to know how it supposedly "educates" people on different creeds (Whatever the creeds in this situation are supposed to be)

>>716026683
the newest overwatch comic
http://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-gb/tracer-reflections

>>716047367

>No actually, you don't know what my position was because I didn't state it

Wow this must be embarrassing for you.


>Telling kids it's okay to be gay as you put it isn't the same as including characters in media for the sake of diversity.
>Not including a lesbian isn't equivalent to telling kids that being gay isn't ok. What you've done is commonly called a false equivalency. babby's first logical fallacy, congrats.

Granted your position came from misunderstanding my misunderstanding, it's still a position.
>I also wonder if it's important, which is why I ask. So tell me, exactly and specifically. WHY is it important? I want to know how it supposedly "educates" people on different creeds (Whatever the creeds in this situation are supposed to be)


I would point to the use of heroes as role models for young kids who consume the media. The idea is that if Superman acts moral, or as what the creators perceive as moral, the young kid will imitate their hero and create conditions where the in morals are prevalent and the out behaviours are shunned.