>Being white but not supporting White Pride Explain yourself

Why should I be proud of something I have not achieved

I'm white and I'm not racist but I don't want immigrants in my country who don't learn my language, pay taxes and respect the law.

If they respect these three points I have no problem.

>>715721166
because i dont agree that my skin color makes me better than others

>>715721546
Even illegal immigrants pay sales taxes; that greatly help the economy.

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I'm going to snap your fucking neck off if you talk shit about me one more time nigger

>>715721661
No, they must respect the rules. If they are illegal they must return to their country.

>>715721661
Fuck sales tax- incone tax is where the govt makes money that pays into social security you faggot.

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>>715721350
>>715721564
Why are there so many fags on this website?

>hur dur I cant be proud of my race, if I do then Tyrone won't let me watch him fuck my girlfriend

>>715722181
>hur dur I cant be proud of my race, if I do then Tyrone won't let me watch him fuck my girlfriend


what?
I just think it's stupid to be proud of something that you did nothing to achieve. You're just lucky that you're white and you're born in a wealthy country so yeah I'm happy but not proud.

>>715721166


because its a nigger thing being proud of your colour

>>715721166
Because I am not a tribal moron

Because I'm a bi-faggot and even though I share most of there opinions white supremacists hate fags

>>715721166
Because I don't need to have a shitty organization to think I'm superior, that's what niggers do. All I have to do is read a history book.

>>715721166
I'm not stupid enough

>>715721166
I just don't care that much

>>715722181
So do you believe black people should support black pride?

>>715722991
I think everyone should be proud of their race.

>>715721166
Because I've seen your boneheaded rants and you and your kind make it perfectly fucking obvious that a 'thousand year reich' started by you clueless fuck-knuckles (Assuming that any of you were actually capable of taking power in the first place of course) wouldn't last twelve minutes, let alone twelve years. YOU are the untermensch.

Because I'm not someone living with views from the 16th century

>>715723156
I reeeeeeeealy doubt that.

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>>715724258
>>715724197
>I'm superior to these people who are proud of who they are. Luckily i'm smart enough to hate myself

>>715724976
Everyone should be proud of who they are. and for some reason many whites are forgetting this. every other race understands this.

Considering I am a black female jew, racism is really not my thing.

People shouldn't be proud of their race, it is as retarded as being proud of your local football team winning.
Go out and accomplish something for yourself instead of looking for easy comforting ideas for weak people.

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>>715725708
You're right, why be proud of who you are when you could hate yourself and your people?

Pushing yourself away from your people/group is retarded. not the other way around.

>>715725156
Proud of their skin color, that's it.
A doctor can be proud of how many patients he's saved, an architect on how many buildings he's made. Being proud of something you had no control over is about as pathetic as it gets.

>>715726150
Fallacy: False dichotomy.
Poster is dumb fat kid.
Place opinion in garbage and go about your day.

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>>715721166
I don't want to be associated with you stupid assholes in any way.

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>>715721166
Words are silly.

>Skin is not white, it is skin coloured.
>The description of being 'white' (or any skin tone for that matter) becomes an accepted form of identification with value only in distinguishing between people who do not share this experience.
>And still, the state of 'white' beingness is fairly neutral concept anyway.
>Pride is a state of satisfied convinction in an element of personal identity.

There's nothing wrong with having pride in who you are, but to have that pride be based formally upon your skin tone only works to bolster the extent to which identifiers are a force to seperate and exclude people.

So there's that. Then there's historical legacy of the words themsleees. 'Black civil rights' are words that are associated with the history of challenging oppression. That's what people think of when this term is described.

White pride - These words togethe have a historical legacy of being the war cry of racist white folks.

And I mean I understand that there are white people who struggle and they look for ways to express their discontent and they believe that racism towards white people is a thing that can exist. And I mean sure, if you are the one white person, and you live in a rural town in China, I'm sure you could have the potential to be on the pointy end of some racism, because they systems, institutions, language, the entire social milieu is controlled from a Chinese perspective, and this can probably happen to an extent within a western majority white country too.

However, In the west, overwhelmingly the people who have the ability to influence the way society thinks are white, and by utilising racism certain advantages can be exploited by the powerful - for eg instutional racism helps fill privately operated prisons and gets cunts a paycheck.

So yeah I'm white, I'm proud of things, the colur of my skin is insubstantial.I think racism is pretty silly. I want to fuck women of the diff colours of skin? Fuck white pride

>>715721166

if my grandfather was half-asian, could I identyfiy myself as white?

>>715726317
Hey there kiddo, you said a big word? good for you! anyways it's time to get off you're mom's computer, okay? go take your bath and get ready for bed.

>>715726605
Not that anon, but this one is Ad Hominem.

Because i'm not some edgy 15 year old kid

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B9BuWkIwrU

>>715726150
Are you an idiot?
Why does not being proud of your race means hating yourself or other people of the same race?
I am proud of myself because of what I have done, not merely because I was randomly born white. Also most of my friends are white, I don't hate them, they just aren't my friends for the simple fact of being white but for much more.
How is that pushing myself away from my people?
But I guess being proud of your race is a necessity for idiots like you, you probably don't have much going on for you.

after the third reich failed, we sealed our extinction, the amount of whites is dropping fast, maybe only couple hundred years left.

>>715726605
> I don't have any vocabulary so I must call the other guy a kid in order to seem cool
You sure showed him buddy.

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>>715721166

I live in the real world where this autistic shit does not matter as much

>>715721166
Don't have to. It's called 'History'.

>>715725156
Sounds like a shitty millennial ideology

>Pride
>a feeling or deep pleasure or satisfaction derived from one's own achievements
You CAN'T be proud of your race, or skin color, because it is not something you achieved, it was something completely out of your control.
You may as well be proud of being born with two arms.

>>715727420

same

>>715722313
>it's stupid to be proud of something that you did nothing to achieve

Explain black pride again?

Because Tyrone and Jerome will beat me up!

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>>715721166
Being white is not enough.
>you must also be great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUyDcGSMPEQ

Nothing wrong with being proud of you ancestry and heritage.

It's only when an individual uses that pride as an excuse for bigotry and xenophobia do I have a problem.

>>715727541
Fucking goddamn straight I'm bi-brachia proud!

>>715725156
>Everyone should be proud of who they are. and for some reason many whites are forgetting this. every other race understands this.
No, I haven't seen many asian pride movement and that's a good thing.
Being proud of your race is a belief for the sheople who are unable to do anything that matters nor take up challenges.

>>715721166
I'm white but I'm self-sufficient and reasonably successful. I don't really have any shortcomings that I need to blame on someone else.

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>>715721166
i'm not a retarded american

>>715721350
/thread

>>715727541
So, if you get surgery like Michael Jacksson and you go from black to white, that doesn't count?

It's also about acting white, not just the color of your skin. We all have a choice whether to ape out like the blacks or contribute to society.

>>715721166
George Soros wants you to support White Pride.
/thread

>>715728005
Asian Pride
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XfSEerbOJE

>>715728299
>It's also about acting white, not just the color of your skin. We all have a choice whether to ape out like the blacks or contribute to society.
All memes aside, what you are saying is, those blacks that DO contribute to society, are white? Give me a break, there are plenty of whites that act like animals...racists, for example.

>>715728359
Of course you can find examples, but it is probably as important as the white pride movement (or less).

In any case it is not as cancerous as the black lives matter stuff and I don't think it is a wise thing to encourage such beliefs to spread.

>>715721166

Because I want to make mocha babies specifically to piss off people like you

>>715728548
> those blacks that DO contribute to society, are white
Yes

> there are plenty of whites that act like animals
Yes and I consider then wiggers.

>>715728605
They're a punk band and it's a joke, much like the WP movement.

>>715721166
I don't know about white pride but you should be proud of them dubs, son.

If there's a 1488 get in this thread...

>>715728724
You are just a bit too insecure then.

>>715727685
Look at it this way, those who are the loudest about pride in their skin color, are often the ones that have achieved the less.
BLM are up there because they are quite honestly worthless.
WP movement is, too, filled with a bunch of low-life retards who contribute nothing, but not as much as BLM.

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>>715721166

>>715728958
Explain please.
How does that make one insecure?
There are many things you could have called me, but insecure just doesn't fit.

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I'm proud of my heritage. Not my race. My grandfather is well known locally, my father worked hard to support his family. My other grandfather died too young to know due to working coal mines. My grandmother spoiled me for years until I was a mid teen. I'm proud of them all. Not because they were white but because in their own way they accomplished much and contributed to who I am today. So far I've only worked to help myself, my girlfriend, and my cats. I'm far from selfish, but I have little to be proud of about myself.

>>715721166
I live in a white neighbourhood, in a white country. Most of the assholes around me are white. Every punch I landed since Im a kid was on a white face.

When it comes to it, I chose my friends and allies on affinity and skillset, not on their race.

To me, WP is just a desperate way to create a community out of pretty much nothing and I assume you guys must feel very lonely.

Proud of a evolutionary mutation?

>>715729237
Alright, you explain to me how being "white" is synonymous with being an asset to society.

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>>715721350

Pride in your people is not a natter of claiming their achievements for your own, but in honouring their achievements. They are your kin, your extended family, and you honour them as you would your own immediate family.
You take pride in your culture and past, the music, food, traditions, mythos, language, and aspects of our way of life and the lands that have shaped you and your forebears.


A strong people are unified, and whilst you can be friends with other peoples, people on average get on best with their own kin. Ever notice at uni how, generally the black/Asian/etc students stick together? They are not forced to. They often get on perfectly well with others, but they gravitate to their own because a people have their own unifying bond. This is natural and it is good to embrace this. It brings social wellbeing

>>715729654
>Pride in your people is not a natter of claiming their achievements for your own, but in honouring their achievements. They are your kin, your extended family, and you honour them as you would your own immediate family.
I disagree with this, being proud of the achievements of others simply because they have the same skin color as you is pathetic.
Specially when you take it up a notch and decide that you are superior to anyone with a darker skin because of this.

>>715721166
What does supporting white pride even mean?

>>715729980

Let me reiterate. You would honour your own family's achievements wouldn't you?

Those who believe that race is merely "skin colour" do not understand how race is a far more complex concept. It encompasses much beyond just physiology. Mental characteristics, attitude, culture...

You honour achievements to inspire achievements within others of your group. To give them a sense of belonging, a sense of purpose and drive.

> Specially when you take it up a notch and decide that you are superior to anyone with a darker skin because of this

Now that sounds like pure projection to me. Yes, I am white, but couldn't this apply to any race? They all have there supremacists, yet pride does not need supremacy to exist.

>>715725156
I don't hate myself. I'm proud of wo I am and what I've acheived in life, rather than the colour of my skin. I hate retards like you. Because you are literally the worst examples of what you claim is the master race. Fat, thickheaded slugs who sit in their parent's basements worshipping an ideology that was destroyed by the very people it called sub-human because its leader was retarded enough to start a war he had absolutely no chance of winning.
You are a bunch of fat, pathetic, stupid whining manchildren who couldn't organise a piss-up in a beerhall, let alone a putsch.

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>>715721166
>>Being white but not supporting White Pride
>Explain yourself

I'm told I'm not welcome, even though I'm white, because I'm Polish on my father's side, and slavs are not welcome because they are subhuman scum.

Really, how many times do you have to be told this. It's like you have the attention span of a nigger.

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Holy fucking shit what has happened to you /b/. Son I am disappoint.

>>715728299
>'Aped out'
>Worships a group that aped out so badly that it got their entire country destroyed and half-owned by Soviet 'untermensch' for more than 50 years.

>>715730798
>You would honour your own family's achievements wouldn't you?
Let's say my father was a doctor, who saved countless lives, would I honer him? of course. Would I be proud of him? yeah, but I wouldn't be proud of the acts he did, because they weren't my own.

And the thing about these movements, ANY movements that are about pride in race, is that they are always about skin color. I know race is not only skin color, but my point is that these people don't know it.

>
Now that sounds like pure projection to me. Yes, I am white, but couldn't this apply to any race? They all have there supremacists, yet pride does not need supremacy to exist.

I wasn't talking specifically about whites, or white pride movements, or any movement that prides themselves on race alone.
I can see how you thought that based on the fact that I said "darker skin", but it wasn't really my intention.

>>715721166

The most aggression seems to come from those who are anti-white pride in this thread. Most pro-white pride people seem pretty frank and honest.

As is often the case irl, if you'd all care to look beyond media narratives and stereotypes.

>>715731471
You should go back to your echo chamber, poltard.

>>715731520
>The most aggression seems to come from those who are anti-white pride in this thread. Most pro-white pride people seem pretty frank and honest.
That's a lot of assumptions, specially since I haven't seen any aggression at all in this thread.

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>>715731567
Sure thing there kike

>>715721166
>making the same retarded thread every day

>>715731787
>Sure thing there kike
So...get to it.

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>>715721842
I don't even respect the rules. Why the fuck should I hold it against someone else for not respecting them either? Fuck them, they are stupid anyway.

>>715731479

Maybe the fact that you only think these movements are based on skin colour are simply for the fact that you have not bothered to actually listen to people who actually care about this beyond a KKK member in a trailer park.

Listen to some of the works of Millennial Woes, arguments for ethnopluralism, nationalist theory. I don't wish to belittle you, understand that much. I was in the same boat as you at one time, but taking the time to understand what is trying to be argued from the other sides perspective cleared my preconceived notions and showed me there is a function to pride in ones people.

Give it a go, research my suggestions make no prejudgements and always ask yourself "WHY do I believe what I believe? What function does it serve?"

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>>715731843
Oh not getting your way there schlomo? Better go cry hate crime! Want to talk about the discrepancies in the way the juden talk about the holocaust and what actually happened?

>>715731790
But of course. What else can they do?
In terms of education they tend to be bottom of the class. In terms of fitness, well let's just say that when one of them dies their local fast food joints see a significant fall in profits. Their family generally wishes that their mother had gone ahead and had that abortion. Their only friends are like-minded chuckleheads who get bullied at school just as badly as themselves.
So yeah, obviously it's a jewish conspiracy that's keeping them down.
And the best thing is that while they're polishing those jackboots they bought, despite not being able to lift their chubby legs high enough to goose-step, not a single one of them is aware that should, through some dark miracle, their country become Nazi, these 'stormtroopers' will be amongst the first to the wall in the next Night Of The Long Knives.

>>715732604
You're still here? your safe space is that way.
>>/pol/

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>>715732683
As you and your nose skirt the question I posited. How about arguing any of pic related?

>>715732806
I "skirt" the question you "posited" because it's not relevant.
Do you actually think I'm taking you seriously?

>>715732588
I don't disagree with most of what you said before in your first post, it's just that by definition, you can't be proud of your race.
I'll look up what you said, I am always open minded to any new ideas, but you can't really be proud of something that was never in your control.

>>715721979
They also pay income tax you ignorant fuck. My friend is about to get her citizenship after being here for 30 years. She still paid all the same taxes as you and I. Now, on the other hand my wife's ex is a piece of shit white guy that only gets jobs that pay under table or quits a legit job once child support starts garnishing his wages. He also refuses to file his tax returns in fear of it being held due to unpaid child support. Tell me again how immigrants are ruining our country.

I'm proud to be white, but I don't believe in white nationalism, since they want a country to be only white. I support nationalism in the way that we should look after ourselves and stop pandering to the rest of the world, by doing things like taking in illegal immigrants and dangerous refugees, changing our ways of life to fit other people and countries, and stop being the world's doormat

>>715733268

It's pride in the collective, hence pride I your people is a tangible thing. However, I distress, we have differing views for now, just keep what I have told youin your mind. Also search the philosophical concept of Collectivism vs Individualism.

Take care friendo.

>>715733010
As you also ignore my follow up. I'm ok with some civil discussion. You are not. Noted there sheeny

>>715733761
What part in any of my replies gave you the idea of me wanting a civil discussion?

>>715721166
Dont need or want to. Therefore I simply don't condemn or hate it I just don't care for it.

>>715729654
I'm a patriot. I don't need white pride.

>>715721166
You guys ruin being Caucasian for the rest of us. I hate you all.

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>>715733998
OK that's cool dude. I'm sure you have a goyim to cheat out of money anyway and are too busy to actually discuss our differing views.

>>715721166
because why the fuck would I need to be proud of
a feature that I was simply born with and have no control over, that I have literally not lifted a single finger to get?
It's not like being white is some kind of achievement that makes you better.
And if you wanna argue that it's a movement against oppression then take a look around because being a white male is pretty much already like hitting the societal lottery.

>>715721166
Sure.

Your movement is a mockery of popular struggle, an attempt by wealthy elites to disguise themselves as the source of the misery and suffering that drives you to support "White Pride". One can be proud of their race or culture - for one, I am proud that my country (right or wrong) has a long history of popular resistance. It's just a pity that, right now, you chucklefucks are in the ascendant in my country. It won't last for long. More and more of those who oppose rule by the elite are losing the shackles of "identity politics", which have been used by said global elite in the same way they're using your ignorant arse.

There you go!

>>715721166
There's a difference between Pride and Supremacy.

>>715734397 cont.

Then it will be off to the fucking gulag for you and yours, shitstain. And if I get to be the jailer, all the better.

>>715729654
>People on average get on best with their own kin. Ever notice at uni how, generally the black/Asian/etc students stick together? They are not forced to. They often get on perfectly well with others, but they gravitate to their own because a people have their own unifying bond. This is natural and it is good to embrace this. It brings social wellbeing

Uhm first of all, are you gonna source that "fact" that people on average get on best with "their own kin"? Or is it just your general life experience? And to your second point I say: duh. Because society dictates they stick to each other and because their actual struggle of being a non-white american living in a country that systematically punishing them for their ethnicity makes them relate to each other more.