why isn't this fucking shit illegal yet?

because our current president is a fucking nigger pussyy! MAGA

Diesel? Most public transportation that people like you get moist about uses it. Fuck off.

cuz trump is our president, and this is the vehicle of choice for the faggots that voted for him.

>>715517586
It should be.

I cannot think of a single good reason to not discharge a firearm at someone like that. Anyone who deliberately harms the environment just for the sake of being an asshole contrarian should be returned to the ground.

>>715517586
Because it doesn't pollute the environment, no matter how hard you cry about it.

>>715517705
>one thing carrying 50 people uses it
>50 things carrying 50 people use it
>i can't wrap my head around how that's different

>>715517586
it is. EPA cracks down hard on that shit when they do find it.

why isnt your whining illegal
dont you know that the electricity for your shitty Tesla most likely comes from coal burning?
and what about all the hazardous materials needed to make those "high capacity" batteries?

>>715518004
Good call, it isn't.

>>715518039
No, they don't.

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ITT a bunch of fags unknowingly burn fossil fuels to complain about people who burn fossil fuels.

what a bunch of dumb fucking retards.
don't you have boy butts to go fap to faggots? fuck are you doing.

>>715517586
'Merica

>>715518393
actually my house runs on solar. i can't help it if my internet company burns fossil fuels. so actually you're a hick trump supporter.

>>715518393
im not gay, but i just think its stupid to go out of your way to make global warming/cooling worse for no reason

>>715518577
you are burning fossil fuels right now for no reason, participating in a discussion on /b/ is a waste of time, and it's costing your house energy and network lines energy all most of which is created by burning fuel. you are contradicting yourself! go do something useful if wasting fossil fuels like this pisses you off because you're doing it. nobody here cares or is capable of change.

>>715518576
gr8 b8 m8 now self castr8

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>>715518393
i kek'd
/thread

yes they do, you nigger mongoloid.

It is a violation of the [Clean Air Act] to manufacture, sell, or install a part for a motor vehicle that bypasses, defeats, or renders inoperative any emission control device. For example, computer software that alters diesel fuel injection timing is a defeat device. Defeat devices, which are often sold to enhance engine performance, work by disabling a vehicle's emission controls, causing air pollution. As a result of EPA enforcement, some of the largest manufacturers of defeat devices have agreed to pay penalties and stop the sale of defeat devices.

>>715517586
wheres the smoke coming from

>>715518976
It's a good thing my truck is 25 years old, so now I can turn up the smoke screw and start pushing plumes of black from the stack on my 8.3L Cummins.
>protip: >= 25 year old vehicles don't have to abide by emissions or federal motor vehicle safety standards

>>715518976
who the fuck are you talking to, you faggot jew?

>>715519276
Not true. Older vehicles, depending on state regulations of course, might be exempt from testing, but it's still not legal to remove emissions control systems.

With that said, I'm not bothered by what's happening in OP's post. That's the least of our worries.

>>715517586
>HA HA LOOK AT ME

>fuck dem libruls

>wurs ur globall warmin knauh?

>>715519675
Yes, it is true.
>protip: I've been in discussion with the Office of Vehicle Safety Compliance about such issues

>>715518145
2016
being this retarted.

>>715519066
you never go full retard man.

>>715517586
this i kinda like vaping, for cars

>>715517586
It is... Where the fuck do you live?

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/OP

>>715517811
Your probably too stupid to realize this but diesel burns cleaner than gasoline.

>>715517700
Trump doesn't believe fossil fuels are causing global warming/global climate change.

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>>715517586
that guy is a faggot

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>>715520741
A dickless faggot

Who gives a shit? This is America.
Do what you want.

>>715520700
he could be convinced
as for his staff, have you seen the dude fire people?
It's 99% all he dos

>>715520700
What real non biased evidence do they have that we arent just going through the natural changes of the earth?

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You don't get ass with a Prius, silly fgt!

It's like vaping... You have a cadre of friends that thinks it's cool, so you try to impress them. Little do you know that instead of spending time and money to look like a faggot, you could just suck each other's dicks and actually be faggots.

>>715521748
>implying anything happening on Earth is natural anymore after humans have polluted the fuck out of most of the environment.

gg no re

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>>715521860
I myself am a gearhead and have several cars.. but do people seriously get cars to try to get girls?

This thought has never crossed my mind, why would you care what some bitch thinks? They do not even understand cars.. is it shiny? Does it look expensive? Does it make loud noises?

I guess that it is not much better than the average male either.

>>715521748
We orbit the sun in an eliptical pattern, whos to say we dont also rotate through the galaxy eliptically. Times when you are closer to the center means warmer and times when you are farthest away means cold. This is the most basic concept.

>>715521860
>attempting to make up for my small penis

>>715522221
right except climate change is much more to do with just temperature, it has data to back that pollution is far higher than other other time and CO2 levels are rising at an absurd rate much greater than that would happen naturally. You are clearly just a fucking moron

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Trumptards and their twucks

>>715517586
In the grand scheme of climate change it's really not a big deal. Get butthurt about corporations raping the world not a few people and their hobby. /Imacivilengineer

>>715518976
Umm, maybe in your state. In mine diesel vehicles are exempt from testing completely and only certain counties test gasoline vehicles and even then it's only every other year.

>>715521992
Everything sure seems to be working as normal. I dont get where people think the whole world is so polluted that we're all fucked. I very seriously doubt that we are specifically causing "global warming".
Its fucking 34 degrees in atlanta right now.

>>715517586
why should it be anon, pls explain?

>>715520700

Let me explain something to you.

Trump needed the GOP to win this election and need cooperation of Repubs to get shit passed. He can't just go rogue.

Here is some facts about trump
>pro choice
>pro gay marriage(who gives a fuck, let them marry)
>doesn't give a fuck about lgbt, let them run around cutting off dicks
>understands climate issues, not something hes going to touch yet


He is interested in 3 things up front.
>immigration
>jobs
>trade

he also cares about
>terrorism
>foreign affairs
>military infrastructure
>fixing shit tier communities in chimptowns

what he will probably touch on @ end of 4 years
>going green
>pollution and factories
>energy

From watching his speeches, and reading shit about his cabinet he is going to do just fun and liberals will stop bitching in a year.

Once he has a strong hold and the house/senate realizes what he is doing they will probably stop gripping him with shit.

He just needs to get in office and get that boon and boonette and little boonlings out.

Also, stop going to mainstream media sites, if you want to watch news just stick to MSNBC. It will make you happier.

>>715518576
solar is made from coal, boom your a fosil fag

>>715522221
>>715522221
though the data doesn't support this this idea all. People just really don't accept that we have to figure out some way to change. You can send that much pollution into the atmosphere for as long as we have, and think nothing is going to happen.

>>715517586
i can't believe this shit either.

dodge drivin faggots.

>>715522402
Weve only been recording this information for maybe a century. We still dont even have the bottom of the ocean mapped and you think we have the whole answer right now? Whos to say this isnt the natural cycle of our rotation through the milky way.

>>715517586
Visible diesel exhaust is less harmful, though admittedly not significantly, than invisible exhaust from gasoline.

You are complaining about what looks bad instead of what is bad.

>>715522772
Not the anon you are replying to and while i agree that you could be 100% correct i still feel that it is a shitty excuse.

Reaching too hard, cant talk too much shit though otherwise i would have to add the cat back on my Jeep and my Falcon.

>>715522772
Anon, it sounds like this all guesswork on your part, please tell me you don't believe your opinions based on your personal notions are as valuable as actual qualified scientists

I'm out of the loop. What is this? Is this a new trend or something?

>>715522693
>implying these guys havent just connected a bunch of unrelated dots to push a personal narrative.
>not believing in the theory of infinite improbability.

>>715522693
you mean the data that has only been collected since the 1800s, i thought you science fags believed the planet to be millions of years old...

>>715520110
*Retarded.

>>715517586
apparently that's "diesel rolling coal" the most moronic stupid shit I've ever seen

only in 'murrica

>>715522432
This. The rest of you are morons.

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>mfw the temperature data shows no warming despite record high co2 emissions

>>715522944
These theories about global warming have not been proven yet either. All science consists of are a series of educated guesses.

>>715523139
ya only in america all the fun

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>>715521860

>>715522530
>it's cold where I am
>therefore climate change is a Chinese hoax
Trumptard logic, ladies and gentlemen.

>>715523139
I am ashamed to admit it.. but its true.

The whole overly lifted truck thing is gay.

>>715523060
Please tell me what you believe the personal narrative shared by the scientific community is, and why it would be so outrageously prevalent

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>MFW this thread became about global warming instead of how coal rollers are retarded

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Oh look, it's another "stop liking what I don't like" thread...

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>>715523228
>mfw co2 levels were 100 times more during the Cretaceous period

>>715523382
Go back to your cave, Troll.
Show some non biased proof of the global warming theories.
This isnt /pol/ stop trying to make this political.
>protip not even a trump supporter, you make an ass out of yourself when you assume things.

It is in most places. It shouldn't be tho.

>>715523089
Scientists use things like tree rings and Ice cores and can see co2 levels from thousands of years ago.

>>715517811
woah now, take a seat,captain planet.

Because it's awesome just look at that shit

>>715521860
Because I want my dick to turn black from fucking someone with soot up her vag

>>715517586
It is

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>>715518577

>global warming/cooling

I luv this shit. Now we just blanket any and all consumers of everything on earth as being responsible for the fucking weather... No matter if hot or cold outside, you fucking did it.

>>715523243
While that's true, and that means we cannot say with absolute certainty that climate change is due to c02 emissions, an educated guess is always more valuable than an uneducated opinion, by leaps and bounds.

>>715523496
What is at the root of all motivation? Money.
It creates industry to "save us all from certain destruction".
There are mountains of cash to be made by creating opposition to the standard model.

>>715523684
What's biased about it? 99% of scientists from all around the world say global warning is real and we are the cause of it.

>>715517586
He's about to blow his motor up.

>>715518039
i drive a truck that does this and i never get in trouble for it. not once.

>>715523243
>All science consists of are a series of educated guesses

Guess I better make sure my humours are in balance then, can't trust modern science because it's all guesses

>>715521992
humans were born on the planet, therefore, humans are natural, then it's safe to assume anything made by humans is also naturas, therefore, pollution is also natural.
gg you dumbass

>>715523761
False, they estimate thousands of years by using core samples from glaciers in antartica. Its more accurate, but temperature has only been record for hundreds of years.

>>715523916
This. It isn't even debatable anymore. We're about 10 years past the "show proof or gtfo" phase. Now it's simply facts vs idiots who refuse to learn.

>>715517586
You do know who our president-elect empowers right?..

>>715523865
So your alluding to me being an uneducated plebian.
Why resort to ad hominem?
Tell me, why is it that these theories havent been accepted as the whole factual answer?

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>>715522816
thats it!

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>>715523916
99% of scientists are clearly biased. They are all in on it.

>>715523089
I'm not even a "science fag", just some who trusts most professionals, especially when they will share their findings. And yes, the world is that old. Even the Bible never states the world is 6000 years old, that was just a supposed finding of one biblical scholar, I don't know why all Bible-literalists hang on to that one.

>>715519675
A properly tuned older car with a carb can pass California emission standards.

>>715523382
not the guy you're replying to, but the average december low where i live is 38. this morning it was 18.

the guy didn't say anything about a hoax or trump.

even though we aren't scientists, the empirical evidence we experience in our daily lives is still valuable.

to a guy who was alive during the last ice age, what we have now is indeed pretty warm. but to a guy who was alive twenty thousand years before the ice age, it's indeed a bit chilly right now.

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>>715521748
>>715523228
>>715523599
>>715523684
>>715522530
>>715524256

>>715522929
Don't validate
>>715522772
his pseudocrap. Milankovich cycles account for a certain amount of cycles of heating and cooling. But our location in the milky way has nothing to do with the Earth's climate. The timescale and energy input makes for absolutely no effect.

>>715524195
Because people refuse to accept the the scientific community has, in fact, accepted it as the factual answer

>>715524305
Not without a Cat converter it can't, CO and NOx will be off the charts.

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>>715523599
>mfw if they had computer models back then we'd all be kill

>>715524372
I hoped there was a gaping asshole at the bottom of that pic...you missed an opportunity.

>>715524051
"Theories" are just that, ideas that people think could be true.
There is no irrefutable proof that greenhouse gasses do anything to our climate. The only wholly accepted cause for an ice age was a dust cloud blocking out the light from the sun due to an asteroid collision.

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>>715523243
Some guesses are better than others. I prefer to give more weight to guesses that are backed up by tons of data and years of research.

>>715523916
that's exagerated, there are way more fucking nuts scientists than 1%, come on bro use your nugget.

>>715524363
Local trends don't necessarily say anything about global trends though. If 1/3 of the planet got cooler, and 2/3 got warmer, then the planet got warmer

>>715524256
Oh yes thousands of random scientists from all around the world are in on some ridiculous conspiracy. Seems legit. Keep that tinfoil hat tight buddy.

>>715523911
Its still a very oddly collaborative conspiracy, then. Most of the scientists who record correlations between human activity and environment would not be put on projects to engineer alternatives, if that's what you are suggesting. And its not like all scientists are part of some big conglomerate.

>>715524504
Lol learn science moron. Gravity is just a theory. You saying gravity isn't true?

>>715517811
Yeah, I'm with you.

White niggers exist, and they're these sorts of assholes.

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>>715524506
Also this is a neat thing, if anyone is interested, since this is a climate change thread now.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/

>>715517586
OP this is why you need to be more responsible about what threads you start

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>>715517811
Absolutely agree with you, thank you!

>>715524504
That's it, I'm not gonna fucking argue with someone who doesn't know the difference between a scientific theory and the colloquial use of the word theory. Go back to high school and actually learn something this time

>>715524393
Our proximity to other solar systems and gas clouds in space would most certainly have a correlation with temperature.
The problem here is people trying to paint the picture but we have only seen 0.000000000001 of the whole picture.
No one has it figured out.

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>>715524372
>mfw the best measure of global temperature is satellites and they've only been up for 30 years (and show no warming at a time when man made co2 levels are peaking)
>mfw the temperature record before that comes from weather stations for about 100 years (but they all suffer from natural warming due to the urban island effect, and they only reflect local temperatures which is then extrapoloted to the entire earth, even though 2/3rds is water with no weather stations)
>mfw before that the record comes from proxy, either the thickness of tree rings or the isotope profile of ice (old trees and old ice being highly local and not indicative of global temperature, enter more data 'adjustment')

It's just shit science, anyone with basic science education can see.

>>715517811
>>715524922
People across the world do this though, it's hardly limited to truck douches. Look at all the richies who fly private jets to move 1-2 people which burn kero with 0 emissions control at all at a prodigious rate or boat owners with 1000hp speed boats.

>>715524397
Show me legitimate non biased sources please.

>>715524195
You're not an uneducated plebian, but you and I are no more qualified on this topic than a doctor is on whether or not old Uncle Henry needs heart surgery. I'm simply saying I would trust the doctor, and for good reason. Its ok to question things, just be sure to provide educated reasons instead of posing the argument "but my thoughts matter toooo!"

>>715524372
so what you're saying that it's about as warm now as it was 12000 years ago. Huh, those cavemen must've had some badass SUV's.

>>715524619
forgive me, i'm a practical guy.

the challenges i experience locally are generally more than enough for me.

i'm afraid i'll have to leave the rest of the work to brad pitt and captain planet.

>>715524896
Saved for future use anon. It shows that scientists have actually looked into other possible causes for climate change, and found those explanations lacking

>>715524765
Ad hominem, the true argument of ignorance.

>>715525055
As if youve made a valid point at all.
>hurr i dont agree so hes stupid

>>715525253
Otherwise known as leaving it the rest of it to the climate scientists

>>715525202
http://www.forbes.com/sites/uhenergy/2016/12/14/fact-checking-the-97-consensus-on-anthropogenic-climate-change/#7f74a9647c6c

And every major science organization in the world
http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

>>715525148
>show no warming
Dafuq? Every single month sets a new temperature record.

>>715524372
I don't believe just any stick figure diagram with child-directed anotation, but you gotta keeper there anon, your definately a one smart wet noodle.
>>715524472
Indeed backs on the floor

>>715525420
Lol your ignorance was the reason for the as hominem attack. It wasn't a difference of personal opinion that caused me to insult you. It was the fact you're too stupid to know the difference between the colloquial use of theory and the scientific use. Meaning in a discussion based on science you are useless.

>>715525757
inb4 dinosaur

>>715525210
Its not about my thoughts mattering, i dont have the resources to test my theories properly. All plausible situations should be explored in their entirety. No one has proved anything yet, the "proof" behind global warming is psuedo science.

>>715525550
You can't argue science with someone who doesn't know it, and if you don't know what the difference between the use of the word theory in scientific disciplines and colloquial use is, you don't know shit about how science actually works, end of story

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>>715517811
I hope you get stuck behind this guy in traffic tomorrow. When you finally get around him, I hope you get stuck behind me.
Is rubber bad?

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>>715525721
>sets a new record

You mean 'has a 60% probability of being the highest month on record giving our data adjustments for places that don't have any data'. Give me one reason to trust their models for past temperatures when everyone of their models has failed to accurately predict future temperature.

>>715525148
>MFW other ways of measuring climate are better than you are implying
>MFW these are global temps averaged out
>MFW these factors have been taken into account
>MFW you didn't get a science education

>MFW you are so wrong I don't have a face for this.

>>715525916
All plausible situations, explored right there
>>715524896

People have been saying for decades that all plausible situations should be explored, and scientists have. You just can't accept that it didn't turn out the way you wanted

>>715525803
Why not educate me oh so enlightened one? If you were really so intelligent you wouldnt resort to such childish communication. You dont have any legitimate evidence to support global warming so your trying to undercut my accountability to make yourself seem smarter. Go back to your cave.

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Don't fall for any "global threat" excuse to bring in the Jew World Order.

>>715525979
Prolly, smells pretty bad

>>715521992
Global warming would take millions of years of human caused emissions. Read a science book, you sound like a retard.

>>715525228
Twas dinosaur farts

>>715525979
GTO?

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jews create climate change

look up

>>715517586
damn, this gonna be the standard soon

>>715526177
The way i wanted, what do i have to gain either way?
In another 20 minutes this thread is kill and all of this goes in the trash.
All im saying is dont be so sure of your answer when realistically nothing has been proven in any way shape or form.

>>715525757
I explain it in complex terms
>I don't understand so it is wrong.

I show it in simple terms
>lol cartoon can't be right, use real data.

>>715517586
imo, I'd prefer faggotcycles to be illegal

>>715526180
You undercut your own accountability by knowing noteven knowing the basics about science. And I'm not here to educate, if you want to learn google global warming and read some of the 10's of thousands of papers written by scientists from individuals up to organisations like NASA.

>>715518576
>actually my house runs on solar.
Really?
Your whole fuckin' house runs on solar?

>>715526164
>image source: THE HOCKEY SCHTICK
ok m80

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>>715526169
>have no data
>"no problem, we took those factors into account"

>>715525699
in all fairness, i don't see the scientists actually doing anything but lobbying for grant money.

Master mechanic here diesel emissions are actually better for the environment than gas emissions. Less NOx , Co2 and carbon monoxide the reason stupid people like you think its worse is because you see black smoke coming out of a diesel. Now i will say that truck has upgraded injectors probably a larger turbo and a rich tune. Which is illegal in all states but just like anything illegal people get around it so educate yourself and stfu tree huggin hippie

>>715524922
holy crap are those tits are perfect.

>>715526520
Still harping on about one little semantic.
You keep saying im wrong but you have yet to show any sort of proof to support your claims. I dont need to defend the possibility of "them" being wrong because no one has proven "they" are right to begin with.

>>715526386
condensation is such a hard concept to understand

>>715526520
>You undercut your own accountability by knowing noteven knowing the basics about science.
OK, let's talk science.
PhD in Physics from U. Mass Amherst
Masters in Mechanical Engineering from MIT

And your credentials are......?

>>715520599
Not when you fucking coal roll it you dumb motherfucker.

ITWT:
BUT THE GOOGLE SAID THIS!
No.

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>quick we need global taxation and governance before we melt!

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>>715526867

condensation goes away in seconds

it doesn't linger for hours

>>715526952
not the guy you're replying to, but all of our credentials are pretty much the same.

that of dudes who are home on friday night arguing on /b/ about something that nobody really gives a shit or is gonna do anything about.

>>715526952
yeah whatever nigger
congrats on your GED
phd physics cambridge
phd chemistry oxford
ms civil engineering mit

>>715526975
This happens when you accelerate with a diesel engine. If you put more fuel in through the injectors, more smoke comes out of the pipe. All this guy did was a burnout. Its standard for diesel fuel because it is less processed than gasoline.

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>>715526164
Nice fake news. Here's the real data.

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

>>715517586
so am I a nigger for flooring it in an old pos all the time even if the smoke that comes from my car isn't black

Lets hold the fuckin phone here for a second, what if trump is right(despite being a literal scienetard) and we are being cucked(with chemtrails) by the chineese, what do we do about it?

>>715526952
Then you'd know the difference between the scientific use of the word theory and the colloquial use. The man-made theory of climate change started as a hypothesis, and matured into a theory as evidence continued to support it, and alternative hypotheses turned up short

>>715521860
inb4 she died of vaginal cancer

>>715527225
>What is a cloud?

>>715527290
You just listed over 20 years of college education at a cost of over 500k.
You also used an ad hominem to start your assertion.
Go back to your cave, Troll.

>pass prius
>pass brotruck
>brotruck floors it to keep up
>prius get zyklon b'd
Kek

>>715527385
Then we show indisputable evidence that proves this, the world takes our side, the Chinese are embarrassed, and we move on. But that won't happen because Trump is wrong.

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Chemtrails

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>>715527325
>it's not fake if we 'adjust the data', trust us

>>715519276
Drive your shit car. Smelly and old like u.

>>715526590
Here, let me put it in words you can understand.

We have great data. We have the most accurate data. We have the smartest people. You know, so many of my people, they’re so smart. They like to say, well, Trump, I don’t know if he’s got this right — let me tell you, we have the smartest people. We have the people that are the smartest, and the strongest, and the best and the hardest working. We have the smartest people.

>>715527492
who says im not 35
stupid nigger lol

>>715527303
It's more processed at the pump, Diesel fuel has way higher standards in production so impurities don't fuck diesel fuel pumps which have always operated at manyfold higher pressure than petrol/gasoline. Blowing coal like that is simply an engine tuned for one thing at the expense of everything else.

>>715526363
Not him but yeah that or a monaro

>>715527593
Those are 4 of the most trustworthy earth science organizations, about everything earth science, not just climate change.

>>715527593
What does that even mean? This is raw data from four independent research organizations. Nothing is 'adjusted.'

>>715527703
>stupid nigger lol
uses a nigger phrase, is a nigger. How niggerish?