I'm a 32nd degree Scotish Rite Mason. AMA

>>715289195
How does it feel to be such a giant sucker who willingly forks over his cash for a false sense of brotherhood?

>>715289266
Feels pretty good actually

>>715289195
Think you could take a 2nd Degree Black Belt?

Ever had an orgy in pools of blood while wearing animal masks?

>>715289195
How do I join the freemasons?

>>715289346
(op) Nope

>>715289195
Where can I sign up to steal the Declaration of Independence with Nick Cage?

How's 8th grade going?

>>715289195
Do you absolutely have to be successful to join? I'm a huge loser without any direction and I've been interested for a few years. I'm in Canada, if that helps.

Good evening, brother.

>>715289404
(op) If you have a belief in a supreme being and have nothing incriminating on your personal record you can become a mason, if you know one, ask if you can join, if not, try emailing a local lodge.

>>715289195
What do you actually do?

What, precisely, is the socio-economic utility of being a Mason?

How would becoming one be to my advantage, assuming I participate wholeheartedly?

>>715289508
no you dont have to be rich, id highly recommend doing it, you get to meet a lot of people!

>>715289621
(op) we pretend to be mysterious while actually doing nothing.

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>>715289589
This is why I did - I emailed the lodge through their website.

>>715289621
Imagine a frat for adults, or basically just an Elks Lodge or the like, more high brow and with some moral/ethical lessons taught through symbolism involved.

>>715289653
there really is no advatage, other then making connections. If you want to join to become powerful then you are in the wrong place (op)

>>715289680
>>715289508
Thanks, I'll look into it.

>>715289195
For what purpose?

>>715289621
(op) that first reply wasnt me, the second reply is pretty accurate

>>715289195
How old were you when you finally told your parents you were gay?

>>715289589
How do you prove belief in a supreme being? Do you need to be in a religious organization?

>>715289936
(op) nope, have been happily married for 3 years

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>>715289589
>(op) If you have a belief in a supreme being

Leaves me out

>>715290007
you dont really, its just word of mouth from my expeirence. (op)

>>715290008
What's your husband's name?

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>>715290007
Nope. You just need to declare that you believe in *literally* any kind of supreme being. Your beliefs can be vague or unsure, as long as you believe that there is some divine influence. You just have to not be athiest.

Freemasonry uses religious symbolism, and Holy Writings as guidelines for understanding how to live a good and just life, but they don't hold members to any specific doctrines.

>>715290137
(op) ha, funny one

Sodomy is illegal, but how do you get around that?

>>715289195
What's the biggest animal you've taken up the butt?

>>715290158
I believe in the Q Continuum. Am I in?

>>715290158
(op) pretty much

>>715290211
Seriously though, which one of you takes it in the ass?

>>715290158
So Freemasons are actually just scientologists?

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Could that supreme being be Beelzebub, Zeus, or Thor?

Do you believe that satanic worship is your final goal?

>>715290315
no, not even close from what i imagine (op)

>>715289195

Are you a cowan?

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>>715290263
Essentially, yeah.
If you that's how you envision the creative force behind life, sure.

>>715290315
Scientology has a ton of doctrines. Freemasonry's are basically just:

>You should treat everyone fairly and equally
>You should try to help the less fortunate
>You should be productive and take care of yourself/family/friends/brother masons

>>715290323
Yes, actually.

>>715290378
No, freemasonry and satan worshiping do not mix (op)

How much David Icke have you seen/heard?

>>715290493
Numerous former members would disagree with you.

>>715290493
what i ment by that is free masons dont worship satan in there meetings (op)

>>715290598
must be that 33rd degree

>>715290598
Again, numerous former members strongly disagree with you.

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>>715290649
Are you referring to the idea that "Light" in the Masonic context refers to Lucifer?

>>715290646
Maybe, probably not though, If i become a 33rd degree then maybe ill find out but that chaces of that happenign are very small as there are only a handful of them.
(op)

Biblical scholars would all agree that "light" does indeed refer solely to Lucifer.

I lean libertarian and really don't care if God exists or not. Could I be a mason?

>>715289589
Does it have to be a specific belief? Because I kinda have my own belief on God... It was formed more or less with Judeo-Christian influence, but my beliefs would get me tortured to death if this was say 1400's Europe...

Also, I actually have no criminal record to speak of... Though, I am on the very fortunate side on this issue...

Master Mason checking in from London. UK

>>715290867
It is very specifically involved in Satanism.

>>715290864
yeah you could, as long as you say that youhave a belife in a supreme being (op)

>>715290867
a belief in any supreme being will suffice

>>715290804
well I hope you don't soon anyway, heaven forbid wishing for someones death.

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>>715290864
A lot of Masons seem to lean Libertarian, and be soft Deists.

>>715290867
That is fine. (I'm not op.)

>>715290858
Which Biblical scholars?

>>715290901
nice to have you here :) (op)

>>715290598
You must not be a high enough level for it yet.

>>715291064
There are no levels in masonry (op)

The blood of newborns rejuvenates their skin. Thus, they do not show their original reptilian form.

>>715291123
There are many levels, fuckhead

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>>715291262
Is that any way to treat a brother

Master mason checking in from the Midwest, good to have you here brother!

>>715290963
>>715291003

Ah, ok. And I am majoring in computer science and plan to be any type of developer, preferably web. Could I benefit in this field as a mason?

>>715291391
Pics or it didn't happen

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>>715291391
WIscy here

>>715291420
You can definitely make some connections, if you want to. A lot of professionals, well-to-do people are involved in the Lodge.

>>715291420
are you saying that as a mason, it will make you more sucsessful? then no.

what kind of gay stuff or "non gay" stuff do you have to do to join?

>>715291391
im glad youre here :) (op)

>>715291558
I was asking if it would get me to better paying jobs in the field, such as working for Apple as an example.

>>715291420
>>715291558

I don't know if this is necessarily true, I majored in comp sci and am a mason, it's good business connections but not the reason you should join.

>>715291700
There is not a whole lot you have to do to join. Have a belife in a supreme being, have nothing incrimination on your personal reccord and as to join, its as simple as that! :) (op)

>>715291924
What is the initiation ceremony like?

>>715291871
it might help you, but it shouldnt be the reason why you join (op)

>>715291920
>>715292026

.What was the reason you joined?

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How much do you know? Or are you just a poser...

Wisconsin mason here, just blue lodge not scottish rite, I've used my connections to get jobs and make business deals, just don't screw over a brother.

>>715292143
shitposting fag

>>715291391 <--
>>715292113
Community and charity work. The masons fund something crazy like 18% of the total US charity work.

I'm was a mason too, you don't pay much of shit of anything, you're vetted in a thorough fashion sometimes background checked and at the lower levels it's mostly conservative intellectuals in a bowling league that doesn't bowl, focus is on history and education for the most part...lodges can be segregated which is noce and ironic simultaneously. End of day you'll have access to some sweet historical literature that most people don't know about and you'll meet lots of government pigs and politicians. The baseline blue lodge masonry is a pretentious history logical society but there are cop lodges that are very scary

>>715292113
I joined for the spirit of universal brotherhood (op)

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>>715292205
Fellow WIscy bro?

I'm at UW.

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I am the banker known as illuminati

>>715292372
cop lodges? please do tell more.

>>715292372
"some sweet historical literature" is right, the Scottish rite lodge I go to have like three libraries full of books that go back hundreds of years. It's mind blowing.

literally my first time posting on 4chan so not sure how to reply directly to comments, but yeah I started out in Milwaukee then went west then back east again lol

>>715292549
Sounds boring.

>>715289266
Wrong

>>715292549
thats the main reason why my parents joined masonry. (op)

>>715292372
>Even closer
Now these days its just used as a snowballing device and search for specific person types.

the membership fees for my lodges help support the building, pay for dinner or deserts we have before or after meetings and then charity

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>>715289195
Good to have you here

If you're not into anthropology or history or not a science nerd the gains of joining are superficial. Maybe you'll meet a mayor or a police chief but you'll get nothing of it if you're not into libraries

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>>715292617
Well, welcome then brother.

(You click on the number of the person's post)

>>715292746
I doubt that highly.

>>715292829
Did yeah see what I did there with the ol' cardinal directions

>>715292646
To each his own, I find it pretty interesting.

>>715289195
Dad???

>>715292809
>Data mined.
Nah I'll look elsewhere and continue contaminating records with my fellow reptillians

>>715292883
seeing as its like $50 a year for me where else is my money going towards, how does the building pay its bills and where does the food come from?

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>>715292926
I did. A copy of Look to the East is on my nightstand right now lol

>>715292883
The boilers in our lodge went out, so that's where my dues are going, to replace them.

>>715292795
thats not even masonic i dont think a friend of mine who is a mason was telling me about that.(op)

Okay, then masons are the original cucks then?

>>715293025
my old lodge out west has a bowling alley in the basement that we want to renovate and get more involvement with the community and other temples. We do a bunch of roast beef dinners and parades etc

>>715293017
Cucked, Sir.

I think Scottish Rite would be cool but I'm not Christian so meep, guess I'll just join the Shriners eventually

There are segregated lodges by race and by government, most blue lodge masons. Or connected by blood to le don't know they exist and the pigs that come on this site wouldn't dare admit it but there are Leo only lodges for politicians attorneys and cops. That's the true revelation. A basic bitch like me would never be allowed into their politics but occasionally those of us connected can visit for dinner etc. pigs have their own lodges where they are very exclusive. No clue what happens when they close their doors they claim it's the same as non exclusive lodges but each lodge has 'states rights' in the sense discrimination is allowed fully and trying to sneak into a cop lodge is dangerous. I can say no more

>>715293197
my lodge holds a lot of banquets in the basement. that bowling lodge sounds pretty cool! (op)

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>>715289195
So am I. Did you figure out the original meaning of "The Camp" yet?

>>715293197
Oh man, that's sweet. I wish we had a bowling alley lol.
We're basically on the capitol grounds at the state capitol, so it's a lot of people who work for the city or state, and the building is a pretty awesome old courthouse-style architecture, with a lot of space for us to do conventions and rent out the space for local events. It's actually a decent money maker because of the location and facilities.

>>715293338
like we have stated several times, you dont have to be a christian to be a mason. hope that helps :) (op)

>>715293338
say no more? You know nothing. Say something, just something or STFU

>>715293338
my first lodge had a bunch of cops and county sheriffs etc and some had run against each other in previous elections, as a general rule we don't discuss politics or religion but it happens and just like how cops and marines have each others backs, usually so will a mason

>>715293528
Yeah, ultimately you will worship Satan anyway.

>>715293614
technically still valid as a supreme being lol

>>715293553
So . . .

>>715293127
The catholic church came first m8

is (op) a faggot?

>>715293292
You don't have to be a Christian to join the Scottish Rite.

>>715293338
>Mfw math dismantled them quick
Sorry bub its not that bad

>>715293737
Just like a cuck.

>>715289621
Mostly old guys sucking each other off (and much more)

There's a lot of stupid kids on here now incorrectly using the word cuck. It's really annoying and dumb. Know what a word means before using it. Even if it meant submissive, there is really nothing submissive about it it's more like walking into a bar to fight someone you hate. You only submit to yourself it involves no worship of any kind at the blue lodge level and even in the religious further practices involves nothing besides being humble-comparative to the military or trades masters. All the founders of the original American gov were masons. Too bad they let african dogs in... I like that they self segregate. God knows what happens there either.

>>715289195

OP i have a few questions

>age?
>location?
>age when you first joined the masons?
>income level? (salary yearly)
>marital status?
>race/ethnicity?

now that we got demos out of the way:
>has being a mason offered career advantages?
>has being a mason helped with women/gotten you laid?
>do you believe in satan?
>what are your yearly dues? is it worth it overall
>how do you respond to claims that the upper echelons of freemasonry are little more than a satanic cult?
>is it true that there is rampant sexual deviancy/paedophilia/orgiastic behavior as you climb the masonry ladder?

>>715293848
oh shit I was thinking of the other branch, the Knights Templar. I'm still Blue Lodge, I've only been an MM for like 3 years

How is the thing with women? Can they be part?

>>715290035
Plot twist: All those people in that pic are much happier now in Heaven. Their short life of pain was worth it for such an amazing eternity.

>>715289195
Why is american bourbon superior to scotch?

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>>715289195
Are black and white lodges opposed?

who is this supreme being "GOD" or the ultimate force of nature???

also , is 32 degree a low rank , what do you know about mind controll?

>>715294036
no, there are different branchs like Order of the Eastern star. My gf is atheist but shes more pissed that its segregated but I like the boys club part

>>715289653

You meet other people in the outside community. So John, who owns a business is a Mason too. Well, you might need a better job, and you talk about that with John, in a sort of "how's it going? "Oh you know, not that great" sort of way. Well John needs a new employee at his business, and cam actually afford to pay a guy with experience a bit more. And instead of playing interview roulette he can hire a pretty great guy he knows isn't a fuckup because he's also a Mason.

So you get a job through a personal connection. That's the advantage of joining something like the Masons.

>>715289195
JEWS

They unfortunately have let in queers rarely if they have outstanding credentials but that's also why many laws have started doing bg checks

>>715294036
Not op. Like most things, new ideas were birthed and a figgt ensued. Instead of taking it to high, seperation happened. There are studies (at an ocd psychopathic level) that model the practicality and applicable aesthetic

>>715293986
not OP but 23 Wisconsin, joined at 18 current income 45k. single. white. Have used the connections for business. Definitely not helped get laid, the lady masons (i.e. Jobs daughters and Eastern star are kinda weird and religious) $50 for local lodge like 35 for state lodge. I don't believe in satan or heaven or hell.

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good goyim

>>715294094
The blacks segregate themself into Prince Hall lodge, if any want to join another lodge they are welcome, it just gets awkward with culture differences

>>715290858
The light of Christ and that of Lucifer are competing ideologies.

>>715293986

I'm not the OP, but I'll try to answer.

OP i have a few questions
>age? 22
>location? Midwest
>age when you first joined the masons? 21
>income level? (salary yearly) 75k
>marital status? Single
>race/ethnicity? White

now that we got demos out of the way:
>has being a mason offered career advantages? Not yet!
>has being a mason helped with women/gotten you laid? It's men only, so not through the lodge. But women find it cool when you mention it.
>do you believe in satan? Nope!
>what are your yearly dues? is it worth it overall? My yearly dues are $50, I think it's a lot of fun.
>how do you respond to claims that the upper echelons of freemasonry are little more than a satanic cult? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>is it true that there is rampant sexual deviancy/paedophilia/orgiastic behavior as you climb the masonry ladder? Not so far!

>>715289589
"incriminating" please explain...
>how long have you been studying?

Whence came you as an entered apprentice?

>>715294237
I brought my gay friend into my lodge and now hes trans and so technically not allowed because its men only lmao

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>>715293986
Not OP, I'm the skeleposter. But I'll answer too.

I'm 30. WI. Joined just last year, after I got out of the military. Income is currently none, as I'm using my GI Bill to go to school now. Single, white.

>Career advantages?
I'd say none concrete, but I have met some well-to-do professionals and some people of some influence in the city. I'm too new to know if it's gonna help me get laid, lol. Yearly dues are like, 65? Response to satanic cult allegations... I know there's more secrets than are let on, but it's probably nothing like what either of us would assume. The last question, probably not.

>>715294530
>whence came
Fuck off idiot. Jesus can these faggots be any more pretentious

>>715292647
Is this a meme now, because it's bad?

>>715294569
>Joined just last year, after I got out of the military.
No shortage of 'fucking stupid' on this guy

I like how there's one pig telling me to shut up. Fucking racist go. Eat some blind kid up. You're a shitty mason and a shitty person. Fucking pigs. If you're a nerd and prone to success and like helping your community to get a prime rib dinner look into it. If you're into blizzare or racist or satanic stuff you'll stand out like a herpe. It's really a dorky bowling league for history buffs there's not much going on unless you're a senator or some shit. I wouldn't put human trafficking past those pigs brothers or not

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judeo-Masonic_conspiracy_theory
t; it's not a theory

>>715294094
As >>715294389
said, the regular "blue" lodges are open to any male of any race. But there are Prince Hall lodges which are specifically for black men to fellowship in, if they want. Their are also women's lodges, mixed lodges, and youth groups.

>>715294645
I have free full healthcare for life, a 10 grand a year pension, and a full free ride to a top 50-in-the-world university, job priority and placement over non-veterans, a guaranteed home loan, the most unquestioned reference you can ask for in a resume, and a TS clearance. Guess we disagree.

It's not gay if it's a ceremony.

>>715294589
I'm not an idiot. Now calm down little guy. I'm sure your life is worthless, but there's no need to take it out on me.

>>715294076
Incorrect. Jews burn because they didn't accept jesus into their hearts (like Hitler did)

>>715294934
FOOL! DRIVEN BY HIS OWN CONCEIT, HIS ONE FAITHFUL WEAKNESS!

SECRET SOCIETIES

4. Meantime, however, until we come into our kingdom, we shall act in the contrary way: we shall create and multiply free masonic lodges in all the countries of the world, absorb into them all who may become or who are prominent in public activity, for these lodges we shall find our principal intelligence office and means of influence. All these lodges we shall bring under one central administration, known to us alone and to all others absolutely unknown, which will be composed of our learned elders. The lodges will have their representatives who will serve to screen the above-mentioned administration of MASONRY and from whom will issue the watchword and program. In these lodges we shall tie together the knot which binds together all revolutionary and liberal elements. Their composition will be made up of all strata of society. The most secret political plots will be known to us and fall under our guiding hands on the very day of their conception. AMONG THE MEMBERS OF THESE LODGES WILL BE ALMOST ALL THE AGENTS OF INTERNATIONAL AND NATIONAL POLICE since their service is for us irreplaceable in the respect that the police is in a position not only to use its own particular measures with the insubordinate, but also to screen our activities and provide pretexts for discontents,

>>715294875
kek, they are segregated too. The US school system, which is one of the worst in developed countries, outlawed that in the 1960's.

>>715294875
skele bro, aren't any women lodges etc considered clandestine? I know France isn't like by the rest of the world masons because they have mixed lodges

>>715294875
TS clearance. Oh really..
Reference?

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>>715294875
FOOLS!
5. The class of people who most willingly enter into secret societies are those who live by their wits, careerists, and in general people, mostly light-minded, with whom we shall have no difficulty in dealing and in using to wind up the mechanism of the machine devised by us. If this world grows agitated the meaning of that will be that we have had to stir up in order to break up its too great solidarity. BUT IF THERE SHOULD ARISE IN ITS MIDST A PLOT, THEN AT THE HEAD OF THAT PLOT WILL BE NO OTHER THAN ONE OF OUR MOST TRUSTED SERVANTS. It is natural that we and no other should lead MASONIC activities, for we know whither we are leading, we know the final goal of every form of activity whereas the GOYIM have knowledge of nothing, not even of the immediate effect of action; they put before themselves, usually, the momentary reckoning of the satisfaction of their self-opinion in the accomplishment of their thought without even remarking that the very conception never belonged to their initiative but to our instigation of their thought ...

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GENTILES ARE STUPID

6. The GOYIM enter the lodges out of curiosity or in the hope by their means to get a nibble at the public pie, and some of them in order to obtain a hearing before the public for their impracticable and groundless fantasies: they thirst for the emotion of success and applause, of which we are remarkably generous. And the reason why we give them this success is to make use of the high conceit of themselves to which it gives birth, for that insensibly disposes them to assimulate our suggestions without being on their guard against them in the fullness of their confidence that it is their own infallibility which is giving utterance to their own thoughts and that it is impossible for them to borrow those of others .... You cannot imagine to what extent the wisest of the GOYIM can be brought to a state of unconscious naivete in the presence of this condition of high conceit of themselves, and at the same time how easy it is to take the heart out of them by the slightest ill-success, though it be nothing more than the stoppage of the applause they had, and to reduce them to a slavish submission for the sake of winning a renewal of success .... BY SO MUCH AS OURS DISREGARD SUCCESS IF ONLY THEY CAN CARRY THROUGH THEIR PLANS, BY SO MUCH THE "GOYIM" ARE WILLING TO SACRIFICE ANY PLANS ONLY TO HAVE SUCCESS. This psychology of theirs materially facilitates for us the task of setting them in the required direction. These tigers in appearance have the souls of sheep and the wind blows freely through their heads. We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM .... They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality ....

>>715294934
Idk man you're not supposed to ever write that shit down sooooo...

>>715295127
Cuck right here. Confirmed.

>>715289721
Then I believe you are not a 32nd degree mason because Manly P Hall was one and did not discuss what he did until he left the brotherhood

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>>715295244
>>715295205
7. If we have been able to bring them to such a pitch of stupid blindness is it not a proof, and an amazingly clear proof, of the degree to which the mind of the GOYIM is undeveloped in comparison with our mind? This it is, mainly, which guarantees our success.
GENTILES ARE CATTLE

8. And how far-seeing were our learned elders in ancient times when they said that to attain a serious end it behooves not to stop at any means or to count the victims sacrificed for the sake of that end .... We have not counted the victims of the seed of the GOY cattle, though we have sacrificed many of our own, but for that we have now already given them such a position on the earth as they could not even have dreamed of. The comparatively small numbers of the victims from the number of ours have preserved our nationality from destruction.

9. Death is the inevitable end for all. It is better to bring that end nearer to those who hinder our affairs than to ourselves, to the founders of this affair. WE EXECUTE MASONS IN SUCH WISE THAT NONE SAVE THE BROTHERHOOD CAN EVER HAVE A SUSPICION OF IT, NOT EVEN THE VICTIMS THEMSELVES OF OUR DEATH SENTENCE, THEY ALL DIE WHEN REQUIRED AS IF FROM A NORMAL KIND OF ILLNESS ..... Knowing this, even the brotherhood in its turn dare not protest. By such methods we have plucked out of the midst of MASONRY the very root of protest against our disposition. While preaching liberalism to the GOY we at the same time keep our own people and our agents in a state of unquestioning submission.

Street level masonry has been unimportant outside community service since integration. That's why most masons you meet are bros or dweebs like me. I've been in eleven years and I can assure you if you sign up and climb the ranks you still won't have access to whatever your district attorneys and judges are doing behind closed doors. Only a simpleton would think 75$ a year for monthly prime rib would let you gut and rape children in the name of Satan with a bunch of cops and politicians. Lots of dumb motherfuckers on b these days. Military bros should check it out if not African or haji. All else should fuck off and read Wikipedia. None of us on fucking 4chan get to see mr pickles shit in real life. We like escaping our wives and drinking with conservative non junkie educated tax payers. That is all

>>715295099
I don't know as much about the other lodges, but I don't think the women's lodges; Amaranth and Eastern Star, I believe are the biggest ones remaining. They aren't clandestine as far as I know.

>>715295264
The initiation itself tells you what is kept secret and what isn't.

Here goes:

>literally everything about masons, ever, is allowed to be told to anyone, anywhere, at any time, with the sole exception being the 'modes of recognition' (that is, only the hand-grips and the passphrases)

That's literally it. That's the only secret you have to keep.

>>715295264
so basically we can tell you most things about masonry (our you can literally see it all online, its how I studied for my tests) but we can say things about the modes of recognition

>>715295331
How is your brown baby doing?

>>715295451
lol so mote et be

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>>715295331
>>715295499
FOOL!
10. Under our influence the execution of the laws of the GOYIM has been reduced to a minimum. The prestige of the law has been exploded by the liberal interpretations introduced into this sphere. In the most important and fundamental affairs and questions, JUDGES DECIDE AS WE DICTATE TO THEM, see matters in the light wherewith we enfold them for the administration of the GOYIM, of course, through persons who are our tools though we do not appear to have anything in common with them - by newspaper opinion or by other means .... Even senators and the higher administration accept our counsels. The purely brute mind of the GOYIM is incapable of use for analysis and observation, and still more for the foreseeing whither a certain manner of setting a question may tend.

11. In this difference in capacity for thought between the GOYIM and ourselves may be clearly discerned the seal of our position as the Chosen People and of our higher quality of humanness, in contradistinction to the brute mind of the GOYIM. Their eyes are open, but see nothing before them and do not invent (unless perhaps, material things). From this it is plain that nature herself has destined us to guide and rule the world.

lol American "masons" are daft, have fun with your 7484 degrees and billions of unnecessary add-ons. There are 3 degrees of real Freemasonry and no need for this Americanised bollocks where you lot feel the need to jack everything up and make it something it was never intended to be

Also OP is double retarded for telling people they should ask to join: it's supposed to be something you get invited to by current members not something you go and actively seek

Is there a connection between The Freemasons & O.T.O. ?

>>715295462
I actually won the Rough Ashlar award from the grand lodge because I brought in like 7 guys. Hard af to do without telling them too much

>>715295055
TL;DR
Don't care
Also, you're triggered. Hahahaha

If I was a member of a fraternal organization in college (non-masonic), am I eligible to join the masons?

And if so, would I be required to renounce my previous oath of obligation?

>>715295757
How much semen did you digest that evening?

>>715289195
No you're not.

>>715295722
I have family in London lodges, and idk if you are true and worthy but our huge phrase in good ole USA is ask one to be one, you aren't supposed to recruit technically

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>>715295801
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>>715295242
I'm not a Mason anyomore. I left Lodge. So I can say whatever. Lol.

>>715295802
No, no oaths to other orders would likely conflict with your masonic oaths.

Though, if you're Catholic, the current church dogma and papal order is that you'd be excommunicated from the Catholic church, or if you're not Catholic, you'd be barred from joining the Catholic church.

So no big loss, IMO

>>715295757
>Hard af to do without telling them too much
>too much
Nice Jew trap, retard. Secrets amirite you bitch?

>>715295451
DA and Judges have a signature you can pick up with the right resources. Altruistic mf they are, careful.

Wow, are all masons fags that worship satan?

>>715289195
33Rd degree you will find out you worship Lucifer.

>>715295802
nah "nothing contained in these oaths should make you yadda yadda yadda..." you are in the clear. most frats borrow off our stuff and once out of college frat bros join freemasonry as a more mature group

>>715295462

thats funny because if u search free masonry online the first thing you find are the handshakes

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>>715295974
Yes.

>>715295985
Wrong. Now take off that tinfoil hat.

>>715296016
Handjobs

You gay ass fags need to stop saying cuck. Fucking teenagers are so stupid. Fact is if we were all in a room the masons would have higher education level, more xp (military and workforce not Xbox) and we are just better than you in general. You're smoking a bong in your grandmas basement talking shit about people that build free hospitals. This thread is done. Fucking monkies and jealous losers in here. We'd also crush you if you didn't have heart attacks at the sight of our pretentious prestige. B is so fucked these days. All homos and teens watching black porn. You naysayers are the cucks, or why are you here in this discussion...

>>715296081
Yes, it is actually gay if it is in a hot tub.

urgh going to bed. I wish skele bro good luck, itd be cool to meet one day.

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>>715296016
Yes.

That's the thing. Even the "secret" parts, are basically open secrets.

That's the secret in itself. That the 'secrets' aren't important in themselves. They're important *for you to keep.* Being faithful and trustworthy with someone so small - a word, a sign, etc - is how you know someone can be trusted with more.

You have to show yourself as someone with fidelity and integrity. That's what keeping those secrets means.

>>715294527
answer me god damnit.....>>715289195

>>715295722

Not American here:

#1 York and Scottish rites are British inventions, but yes they are appendant bodies and there are only 3 degrees in Freemasonry

#2 It is illegal under the UGLE constitution to recruit, or ask people to join, they have to ask, of their own free will!

>>715296133
And he got dubs

>>715296205
something so small*

>>715295884
Yeahhhhhb that's definitely not how it works. You have to be invited by a fellowcraft or master mason, and then accepted by the other members of the lodge by vote (although that's generally just a formality and anyone who's invited tends to get in). There's no "sign up here!!!" stall

>>715296133
You worship satan and perform homosexual rituals. mic drop

>>715296320
It works exactly as you're both describing.

He's saying people who inquire about it to the lodge or to masons are then usually asked to petition. (if they're worthy)

>>715296267
>Free will

>>715296320
yeaaaaaaah no, they have to petition to join, get recommended by two master masons and have an investigation then get voted in. They still have to be the ones to petition. Urgh I wanna believe you are a brother too but don't be a dick if you are.

>>715296429
thank ya jesus

kys

>>715296320
So you're both correct. You seek membership yourself, there definitely aren't "sign up here!!!" signs. But the actually get in you must get petitioned by an active mason and go through a review by him and others before you can join.

>>715296473
Basically, it matters who your dad is then? So if your dad is a cuck, then you also have the chance at becoming a cuck?

>>715295935
>>715296006
Huh, I know when I was an active member in the prior fraternal order, my oath required that I not join any other man or order had claim on me. Then again I was in the top tier of membership and even ran a few rituals for "full" members. Didn't know if that carried over into other orders.

Also, the one I am in borrows much more heavily from traditions from judeo-christianity and less from masonic rit.

one thing i have noticed about the masonic lodges is how closely they work with police and fire departments and even other organizations like Rotary Club and Kiwanis.

Though i don't there is some good in the orders, i think that they really are used for corrupt reasons.

>>715296798
No sir. We had a "true" mason earlier that said they all hate cops. That must be true.

Just a fraternity for poor men. Cucks, cucks, cucks and even more cucks.

AS SOMEONE WITH A CRIMINAL RECORD WHAT WOULD DISQUALIFY ME ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? WILL A MASON PLEASE ANSWER THIS FOR ME

>>715293447
why won't you answer?

>>715297096
yeesh tough one, basically it doesn't outright disqualify you, depends on the severity and how long ago. it all comes down to a vote and if one person says no then you are fucked

>>715297096
Yes. Sorry man.

>>715296798
Altruism blinds those that you mention. Seriously whiteknighting problems.

http://www.masonic-lodge-of-education.com/af-and-am-vs-f-and-am-states.html

>>715289195
what are masons looking for when they come to your house before accepting you into the lodge?

>>715297319
dicks

>>715297319
lolol most mason I know are too lazy or busy to go to your house, really its like hey come have dinner or a beer with us and we gauge if you are a good guy.

>>715297319
They don't have to come to your house, I just went out for coffee for my interviews. They usually as about your house to talk about masonry with any significant others too. Make sure they're okay with it.

>>715296798
>i think that they really are used for corrupt reasons.
That's interesting because the only real life implications of freemasonry I've seen (is: outside of it being basically a social club with expensive uniform) is charity work. Nepotism is strictly outlawed and wouldn't go unnoticed by chapter leadership

They would wage your time of the alleged incident vs the nature and severity of it and also factor in your current lifestyle. Often investigations are much by leo in a le fashion. If you stole a car as a kid and are now 30 with a bachelors and no other noteriety you'd like let be accepted. If you raped a kid they might beat your ass in your own apt. And none of this is cuck. There needs to be an anti cuck word usage movement. A guy enjoying his wif getting fucked has nothing at all to do with 99% of these dumb kids using the word. Kid saying cuck. I would smash your teeth out and cuck you. B is real garbage now. Trolls a plenty

>>715297616
non-profit means literally the opposite, you dumb motherfucker.

Good evening, Brother. I'm a Past Master, KT, 32nd, Shriner, and Sciot.

Some of you are missing the point. Masonry isn't about what you get for yourself, but how you can help others and how you can reach your full potential. It's absolutely worth it, but you have to put in a lot of work to derive real benefit from it.

>>715297741
Good Evening, you are a fag. It's all about Satanic worship and cucking.

>>715293528
It actually depends on the Rite. There's definitely no other religion required by any Masonic rites. But there are Rites that require Christianity.

>inb4 muh 1717 rules
Those are rites that in general structure precede that, or that directly deny the values upheld by that faction of Masonry.

Last post before leaving, was Senior Deacon last year, gonna be Senior steward this year because of joining a new lodge due to moving, gonna blow moving back up the ladder

>>715297220
DAMNIT I ASKED 3 FUCKING TIMES WITH ALL THE READING AND STUDYING FOR YOUR PAST 30 LEVELS YOU'S GUYS KEEP BRAGGING ABOUT PEOPLE WOULD THINK ID GET A REPLY THE FIRST TIME WTF

>>715298136
Yeah, they don't like questions, btw.

>>715297616
There have been corrupt institutions that have infiltrated Freemasonry from times to times, and used it's structure to organize their interests. It's a historically know fact. The P2 Lodge is the most known case, but there have been others.
Not saying the Order is corrupt, just saying that this kind of derailing of its principes is possible and has happened.

Mason bros abonadon ship this thread has been 'cucked'. Since we're just being bothered. Y a bunch of niggers fags and high school kids it's time to call a spade a spade and let this thread die we're not arguing with smart folk. We're being buggered by obese people of all the diverse backgrounds aforementioned

>>715289195
Just registered a bot thread
>I'm a bot
Sage please

>>715298272
Not a single "mason" has given a single intelligent sentence here. That is why you are a joke to us. Find one thing that you are not quoting.

Take you shills and run. Your time is at an end.

>>715289195
what do you guys even do?

>>715298236
Of course it's possible, just like it's possible for a grief counsellor to commit murder or a tax accountant to commit fraud. Doesn't mean the institution is to blame, especially when they denounce those who they catch doing that shit