How bluepilled do you have to be to believe in the evolution theory?

>>714995174
Nub

>>714995174
it isnt a theory

If we had an intelligent creator why do we have an appendix or wisdom teeth?

Just look at bacteria for proof of evolution, bacteria evolve in certain circumstances where antibiotics are introduced to become resistant to it

If you don't accept evolution you're pants-on-head retarded

nice b8 faggot

>>714995174
the real question is, if this was real, where are the women?
check and fucking mate!

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>>714995280
Don't try and reason with this idiot. OP is a fucking goofball.

Don't take this bait guy, please ffs. DON'T!

Fucking idiot

>>714995174
The between species were delicious

I can't even try to imagine being religious and that faithful to god... maybe religious chicks will be more faithful to not cheat

>>714995174
you dont understand evolution, and your probably too stupid to ever understand it, so i wont bother trying to explain it to you because of your chronic willful ignorance & stupidity

>>714995280
I'm waiting for any actual evidence on the argument that OP has given. Every specie has a "common ancestor" currently alive that you're making a retarded connection with. But all between species happen to be dead. For every single being on the planet. Also, comparing micro-organisms with mammals, reptiles etc... LMAOOO autistic cunt.

The answer could simply be a yet unknown mechanism in evolution, nay?

>>714995174
Standard evolution diagram is misleading. It means to illustrate chimp-like ancestors. Chimps today and human beings have both spent the same amount of time evolving FROM the chimp-like ancestor on the very left of the evolution diagram. Chimps just didnt change AS much as we did. This quite literally means that chimpanzees and many other animals are our very very distant biological cousins.

>>714995174
That thing at the start just looks like a monkey. it isn't the same thing. humans and monkeys descended from that primate. Humans just had greater morphological changes.

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Here you go /b/tard

>>714997752
Nope, it's actually quite simple. The chimp on the very left is not a chimpanzee, but an ancestor of the chimpanzee. The diagram is illustrating that we both came from the same ancestor (common ancestor) Chimps today simply didnt change as drastically as we have within the same amount of time due to environmental differences causing strain on our population to the point where only the very smartest could possibly survive. The hardships we endured brought about our larger brains and more upright , versatile bodies.

>>714995174

You do know that's not how evolution works, right? We're not decendants of living monkeys, we're very distant cousins. We had a common ancestor.

>>714995174
ive thought about this so much. where is the evidence of the stages of evolution between monkeys and humans?

>>714995174
>around 500,000 apes total, 300,000 of which are chimps
>7.5 billion humans
>equivalent

>>714997963
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Multiply ancestors
>even more missing species now
>fixed it

You're a fucking joke man, your thinking is so deluded, the most basic things are flying over your head.

when you think you're a scientist who understands everything but really you're just a fat faggot.
>INB4 no i'm not

>>714995174
I don't know what this picutre is talking about "where are the between species?" I see niggers all the time

Why bother? POTUS Trump is proof that willful ignorance and hope in fairy tales wins. The people have spoken, and Creationism it is!

>>714997963

Thanks for good brains and healthy thoughts, Mr Billnye.

>>714997555
A chimp is the evolved product of our common ancestor just as much as a human is. The common ancestor no longer exists. The intermediate ancestors no longer exist also.

>>714997970
But does this answer the question? OP could ask where the ancestors of modern chimpanzees (and bonobos) are.
Or of modern gorillas. Or lemurs. Or wolves.

The general problem is: Why didn't (let's call them) intermediary steps survive even in places where the environment didn't change /that/ much?

May be that evolutionary biologists or ecologists or whoever /do/ have an answer. I don't know, not my field of expertise. But I /do/ think that the question is valid: Why are /all/ of these motherf****** gone?

>>714995174
IN THE GROUND

>>714998633
no such places
everywhere on earth changes frequently

faith in humanity restored

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>>714995174
oh & lemme guess, u think earth is flat & vaccines are evil
& ur creationsm shit is unquestionable yeah right

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>>714997963
nice

>>714998121
Its called extinction dicktard. As some out of many of a certain species evolved, the ones that are considered distant cousins of our genetic makeup, there were those that didn't. Those that didn't among that group became extinct as the ones who did continued to biologically change.

>>714998720
There are no places on the planet which didn't change more or less than others? Come on! :-)

>>714998633
they're gone because of change in environments. Also different species did coincide to live in the same time period leading to conflict and eventually one causing the extinction of another, inevitably leading to our evolution

>>714997963
faith in humanity restored

>>714998812
is this bait or?

>Christians think animals were hand created by god
>Don't support conservation efforts to protect animals hand made by their creator

Fuck son

>>714995254
But it is.

Not in the informal "I have an idea how this might be working" meaning, though.

>>714998819
Basically right, but doesn't solve the problem, it just put's it on another level. How much change? What kind of change? Does degree of change matter? If so, how much? If not, why not? Etc. etc.
"Because change, man!" is not enough.

>>714998852
Thanks buddy. I hate anti science retards and people who cant look in depth on anything. Its never "simple" when it comes to science. And people are to fucking idiotic to understand that.

>>714995174
Chimpanzees and humans share a common ancestor that resembled both, the OP pic is misleading bullshit, OP post is shit tier bait and OP is a faggot.

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>>714995174
>bluepilled
go back to your containment board, stormfart.

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Found em OP!

>>714998819
just dont forget other animals are part of the environment
>sexual selection

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>>714998633

Because populations tend to stay somewhat homogenous as they're all banging each other all the time. Differentiation requires two populations that won't or can't bang any more. Usually because of living elsewhere and having the population between them get killed off, or there's a river or something.

Even then the species can often bang right back together. Eventually they'll be able to bang, but the genes won't mix to make a viable offspring, or it will be sterile ( like mules ). At this point, full speciation has occurred, and they'll only further diverge from that point.

Put a group of humans on another planet for a couple million years and we probably won't be able to bang them any more. But the change will be slow, as the whole population moves toward unbangability.

It's not like a monkey popped out a human one day, it banged its human sister and humanity was born. It was generations and generations of small changes.

At no point would there be a visual difference between parent and child. Only over tons of time and the whole population shifting. ( if there was a large difference, the thing would probably be killed or ostracized and would never mate. basically, think of a monkey version of you )

>>714998796
Except for all the species that have been around for 50-60 million years with barely any change. Yeah keep telling yourself that buddy. You're cherry-picking the shit outta this despite being well aware of these animals.

>>714999029
that's about where my knowledge ends, couldn't tell you what exact change caused it, drastic increase/decrease in temperatures would be my guess, or hunting?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils

>>714999270
sooo many missing links in between them, my mind spins.

/jk

>>714995174
this must be bait or amerifag

>>714998908
If small changes produced ancestor extinction and massive changes produced the same degree of ancestor extinction, that would be interesting, wouldn't it?

>>714999220
"All the species" name 30. Considering there are thousands of species of mammals, animals, insects and other sorts of species on this planet this should be easy.

>>714995174
evolution is real in relation to most living things/creatures on earth.

modern humans are test tube babies created by aliens.

we are the only life form on earth that does not live in harmony with the earth.

>>714995174
We didn't evolve from a fucking chimp. God you are stupid.
Also you can see evelution in real time with bacteria.
Kill yourself

>>714999348
guess it would just be a difference of the time span

>>714999334
fucking Poe's law. cant tell we fight the good fight here or being trolled :&

>>714999387
While i share the same opinion, its not a fact until its proven there are aliens that have done this.

>>714999453
kind of cool to think about though, sort of like us keeping ants in those little cages

>>714995174
>drug addict
>thinks he has anything of value to add to scientific discussion

Because we wiped them out you fucking mongoloid

>>714999220
>Except for all the species that have been around for 50-60 million years with barely any change
Name one. I dare you.

>>714999453
immaculate conception was in vitro

>>714999224
There are a number of candidates: Temperature, humidity, new predators, tectonic shifts etc. All of these should, in different places at different times, produce varying outcomes. Now, the theory should thry to explain why these outcomes amount to what we have now. If it can't do that, it must be adjusted or amended or - disregarded.

>>714999589

I think evolution is obvious. Sharks were around before the dinosaurs, and are essentially unchanged today. We can't tell if genetic drift would allow an ancient and modern shark to mate, or if their internal chemistry would be compatible, but their physiological form appears nearly identical.

You can very clearly tell that the one on the left nowhere near resembles modern apes. There aren't millions of those. They stopped existing thousands of years ago.

>>714999721
nearly identical but not, evolution doesn't exactly mean a drastic change in appearance, could simply be the way the body responds to something, be it illness, temp, pain etc

>>714999589
Alligators and Crocodiles have gone unchanged for hundreds of millions of years because they are already the perfect killing machines. You can't improve perfection.

>>714999606

HAHAHAHAHAHAH HOLY FUCK YOURE DAFT. Humans can't do that. Only asexual organisms can provide themselves with a genetically identical offspring. As well if there is no intervention, almost all organisms besides the crocodile, which is the closest to its ancestral timeline, have been genetically mututated by millions years of evolution.

>all those retards
There are no "steps". It is a constant flow. They change in thousands of years to the point where small adjustments become bigger and bigger in difference from your ancestors that you can call it a human.
Asking why those inbetween speciem aren't alive anymore is like asking why the keeper in football is allowed to take the ball in his hands. You don't understand the theory.

>>714999443
Which means there should be more ancestors for one and less for another species. And/or more/less new species springing from it. The solution: We need more fossils to verify/falsify!

>>714999540
Its a great thought. As I truly believe there are aliens but without proof one can't say factually there are. But i do look at people and say to myself "they look like the little gray alien dudes".

>>714999952

I'm nearly identical but not with my parents. If you want a species that clones itself, sharks might still be your cup of tea

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis#Sharks

What I can't understand is why humans would be the only intelligent creatures. Nothing else even comes close to human intelligence, but if we evolved you would expect to see other species on par with us. That, and you would also expect to see useless mutations that we never evolved out of.

>>714995280

We had an intelligent but malevolent creator - see prostate.

chimpanzees are soon extinct. Now what christfags?

>>715000104
>Asking why those inbetween speciem aren't alive anymore is like asking why your great great grand parents are dead.

>>715000025
Their environment hasnt changed to much as well. Given now they have smaller snouts as opposed to their ancestors. Climate, as well tactics of fending off predators has a way to do with it too. Such as this example.(not true but possible)
-Animal gets in contact with poisonous berries.
-Doesnt die.
-builds immunity to berries
-animals offspring now begin to be immune to berries from birth
-animals blood becomes poisonous.

I worry more for their souls but god will allways love his children even if they stray away.

>>715000550
>accepting a observable fact gets you in hell
This shit is why people in modern countries step away from the church
One small hint: there was a pope that said the evolution is a fact.

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>>715000550

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>thinks that hominids like homo habillis, paranthropus boisei and australopithecus live.
>hominids died because they couldn't keep up with the worlds climate, they inturn, starved, frose, couldn't hold on to life, numbers dwindled then, died off.
>apes and humans branched off, they obviously aren't the same as the were back in 4,000,000 years ago, they branch off into different species, some species died.
>Props to you though for an intellectual post instead of posting retardation like many others.
>mfw an intellectual post appears

>>715000025
Number three fear: brain aneurysm.

>>715000550

Loves his children.

> tortures them forever for a handful of sins committed in ~70 years of living

>>715000746
Srs

>>715000300
>Nothing else even comes close to human intelligence
Evolution doesn't vavor intelligence, it vavors the ability to adapt to change. We just happened to develop an intelligence that allows us to contiously adapt to almost any situation. We're basicaly the lucky bastards who won the lottery.

>That, and you would also expect to see useless mutations that we never evolved out of.
Does cancer count? Down syndrome? Some people having their heart on the right side? Some people having an extra set of kidneys?

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>>714995174
they are called niggers.

>>714995174
Pretty damn blue-pilled OP. Just look at all these cancerous responses, too... I bet these fucking beta cucks spend all their time fapping it to tranny porn. Oh well, even more tears for us to lick up later... the tears never stop flowing, it's so sweet.

>>715000300
What is the appendix?
What is the tail bone?

>>715000830
God dosent torture us, he has given us freewill to do with what we want. It's us who need to become closer to the father.

>>715000949

My lack of wisdom teeth.

> homo sapiens superior

>>715001081
>i have no arguments so i have to insult everyone
Made me reply/10

>>715000949
Some people don't understand shit. They don't see it how the fscts state it but more so "if this agrees with my bias ill believe it but because god didn't say this was real I'm gonna go with the floating douche in the sky who gives children cancer because that's his plan anyways"

>>715000700
I'm christan not chatholic.

>>715001146

KILL THY SON

> LOL JUST KIDDING

THOU SHALT NOT MOCK BALD GUYS

IF YOU DO I WILL KILL YOU WITH BEARS

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>>714995174
checkmate atheists

>>715001177
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU GAY JEW

Have fun getting assraped by our God President and then by God himself you degenerate swine

>>715001428

Here's a (you). Go forth, and be a fag no more, my child.

>>714997963
>>714998121
>>714998796
This actually is a valid point, and one that many scientist have actually brought up. Not saying that one side or the other is true, but typically it takes a long time to answer questions like this, and it's very rare that there are any certainties. Take the infinite universe VS the big bang debate for example. It took years for one side to win out, and now that's in question.

>>715000000

>>715001146
But yet he allows for children, innocent children, to get cancer, doesn't show himself to let us believe in him, takes our money at church, those who swore off women to preach in the name of him rape the alter boys. So what is gods plan anyways? Peace among the world? Or does he enjoy this shit storm just like the average troll online? If you ask me your "god" is a real piece of shit. "Love me" he says as he wants you to stsrt wars in his name while his "son" asks you to spread peace amongst EVERYONE even those who dont believe. You hardcore christians ask us to respect you but offer no help besides "god bless you" as you turn around damming us to hell for simply not believing due to no proof. Sorry I'm not going to sit here and provide myself with false hope and a false sense of security with no valid reason as to him actually being there. I'm not doing anything good in the name of god because then it wouldn't be me doing it out of the kindness of my heart. Its out of hope I don't get "damned to hell after I die." And that's a false sense of goodness.

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>>714995174
That was close

>>715001497
>my child

Fucking typical SJW libfuck cancer. kys

>>715001570
You [spoiler]I like you[/spoiler]

Wasn't black people the in between species?

>>714995174
put simply, the array of life we see IS the in-between species that are currently doing well. Also the picture is stupid, the array of animals shown are more like cousins, not the fathers, and fathers, fathers, etc.
Think of it this way, once you get to something that is unexpectedly beneficial you could get a huge amount of success of a particular species with a particular trait. The steps up untill air-breathing aquatic life were only beneficial enough to give the creatures a very small niche to inhabit. But eventually the lungs become properly adapted to land and suddenly you get a very successful creature that can be found as fossils (simply due to the extreme success of that creature at the time). Then the next big thing could be the body finally fully sealing itself and not loosing moisture all the time. Suddenly (not literally suddenly, but suddenly from an evolutionary record timeline) this new creature can inhabit a huge area, a new niche, and does really well. It dominates the unclaimed land. But the steps before were only a little beneficial compared to this, and just allowed the animal to move further around, while still having to have a good water source.

Really to understand it you need to think about the natural environments that caused segregation and divergence before humans screwed things up. Because thats a key, stopping the kind of similar from breeding. Then you get slight differences like skin colour, patterns, features, etc. And eventually, after a LONG time of separation for whatever reason, things will naturally differ anyway. Eventually the smaller eyes help some particular eskimos to live in the snow, and the wide eyed humans there dissapear (the in between humans if you will). Where in hot sunny regions the skin gains melanin and becomes dark for protection. In this anaolgy you can trace the evolutionary path, knowing that the skin slowly changed, and the eyes. But in a million years, fossils will only show distinct species

>>715001606

Tourettes and world salad is such a difficult combination.

>>715001781
sure kid.

>>715001716

No. Humanity is a single species with a handful of breeds. Most of our differences are little more than culture and skin tone. There wasn't enough time for larger changes, and we've stayed in contact throughout world expansion.

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>>715001146

>>715001692
Whats the "[spoiler]" part for? But thanks. I just hate the act of doing something for god. Because then youre not doing it because you are a good person. You just want a cozy spot in heaven. Anf even if you went on to murder 15 people. You can still ask god for forgiveness and find yourself in heaven. Fucking retarded if you ask me.

>>714995174
When I was homeless, I use to break into the university here. Since campus cleaning wasn't done until 5 a.m. every morning, I would go into women's restrooms and sift around the trash for use tampons or pads. I'd then inhale all the wonderful scents and suck them whilst I secretly jacked off.

Was never caught by security and actually lived on that campus for 2 months.

>>714995174
>>So where are the millions of these?

South Chicago?
Detroit?

What's the problem here, anon?

>>714998121
Do you not know how natural selection works?

>>715001862
I wasn't being serious mate... If i am correct the closest to "in-betweens" got extinct long ago (the cromagnons and neanderthals who were our "cousins" so to speak)

>>714997142
Everybody who is too stupid to make a good arguement. "You're just stupid why try and explain it?" If you were so much smarter then you could simplify it for the rest of us idiots right?

>>714999220
Name 30. And they're easily explained by the theory of evolution. Evolution has no end goal, it just happens. If a species is well suited to its environment with no selective pressures it will stay the same. Nothing says animals have to evolve.

>>714997771
Why didn't the chimps change as much as humans?

>>715001754
and to follow on from this, fossils of even the very recent are difficult to find. Were talking about many millions of years of evolution, some species lasting for millions of years and some only for say 100,000 like us so far. up untill we dominated we had many similar cousins in similar niches, And we have some fragmented fossils of these guys but it is still really rare, and thats just in the last million years. Fossilization is a very rare process, that is important.
So if you ask why the "in betweens" dont show up, it is both because they werent around for long enough or at the right times for fossilization to occur, and that they are there in a way, sometimes but not all the time, you just need to read up about it because most fossils arent popularised, they may only be partial and usually they are trickily grouped into most-like.

>>714999387
No we aren't. Cats and beavers fuck up their environments.

>>715002247

Little changes add up over time. There are many examples of this in the world right now. There is tons of evidence in the fossil record. Species change as groups, and only groups that are separated really diverge. They'll all keep swapping genes and evolving together otherwise. Hence why you don't see many "in betweens", they just happened not to get caught in a bog before eveything else moved on. It's not an idea, its a comprehensive set of ideas that explains the given evidence well. A scientific theory. Ignore shitposters, acquire knowledge.

>>715002360

They did. They're way chimpyier than our common ancestor.

They couldn't become us, because only humans learned to share dank memes.

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>>714995174
Faggot pls, /b/ is full of trolls and fetishists
BUT no one here is retarded enough to believe in your bullshit bait

>>714999202
We were literally seperated by continents yet niggers and native americans are all humans and are bangable compatible. Your arguement is retarded.

>>715002615
>he thinks people here aren't complete retards
Go to /x/ and say the earth is round. And those faggots are more intelligent than /b/ loli and furry posters.

>>715001208
holy shit, the light blue sea monkeys must be very uneducated

>>715002822

Horses can fuck donkeys to make mules.

The whole of human migration has been very short. Your understanding of time is poor.

>>715002822
So you think a few hundred years are enough for a major evolution step? Go back to school faggot

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>>715002985
Here we go

>>714997555
The common ancestor is no longer around, the chimp is his progeny as much as we are. There were no chimps two million years ago. Wht is this "every species" you speak of?

As to your question, the previous forms die out due to environmental and population pressures. Simply put, traits harmful to survival get weeded out over generations by accident, predation and breeding.

>>714995174
If you researched anything besides looking at that chart and laughing like a retard you would know that chart is inaccurate and has nothing to do with evolution

>>715002822
It would take hundreds of generations for that to occur. Timescales are totally different here.

>>714995280

>Appendex

helps keep gut bacteria from being blown out during diarrhea to reseed the intestines. only gets infected because modern humans aren't constantly fighting illness

>wisdom teeth

extra, third wave teeth that come in after adulthood to replace worn out teeth lost to cavities, bacteria, or injury so adults can continue to chew roughage. only cause pain to adults because of dentistry and the fact that first worlders only eat soft prepared food

>other shit

nobody denies micro"""'"evolution"""""", aka basic heredity traits and animal husbandry that has been well known since Bible days (aka, creation). I fail to see how anyone other than a liberal retard could make the jump from breeding dogs into different colored dogs to waiting for a fish to change into a butterfly. That doesn't make any sense no matter how hard you stick your fingers in your ears and say the earth is 420,537,274,638.5 years old. Nobody has ever witness an actual, evolutionary change in a creature. Nobody has ever seen a dog get born with heat vision so he can suddenly live in caves, nobody had seen a cow get born with flippers so he can go live in the ocean like whales and dolphins "evolved" to, no bear has ever been born with slits in his neck that in only 300000000 more years will have finished evolving into gills.

It doesn't hold up to a single moment of actual thought.

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>>714995174

The word ‘theory’ in The Theory of Evolution does not imply invalidity, scientific theories have been proven and are almost unanimously accepted in the scientific community.

A scientific law is a statement about an observable result that is the same every time. A theory is an attempt to explain the cause behind that result happening.

The theory can change or be supplanted based on new understanding, the law is the observable result and should not ever change unless it wasn't legitimately observed in the first place.

A law is just a statement on fact based on something you can observe objectively, a theory is an attempt to explain the causes behind that law.

>>715003872

yet we still have plants, fish, and insects unchanged from the Jurassic park era

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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I found 'em

>>715004705

they stopped evolving because they had no further need to adapt to their environment.

>>715004459
Nice reddit watermark

>>715004144
>that whole post
Holy shit dude. Your dog with heat vision that comes suddenly up shows your brain cannot grasp the concept of evolution. Go grap darwin and maybe one or two more books about evolution and stop going on youtube.

>>714998121
true, always always wondered why there are no fucking dinosaurs running around anymore o.O dumbass

>>715004705
>Jurassic park era
this is advanced autism

also bugs and plants have evolved since then you trog, they've gotten smaller due to atmospheric changes

Except there aren't millions of those. The apes we evolved from branched off into things like chimps, same as we branched off into humans.

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If evolution doesn't exist, explain the differences between niggers and actual humans

>inb4 "muh culture"

>>715000068
Actually--and I really, really don't want to sound like I am defending creationism here--there are at least two recorded accounts of female hammerhead sharks, giving birth to pups, despite having been kept completely isolated from any males long-term, prior. It's a rare, freak occurrence, but it can happen with certain species of animals that normally reproduce sexually. It's called parthenogenesis.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/3294710/Sharks-virgin-birth-stuns-scientists.html

>>714995174
Your just to ignorant too actually understand what the theory of evolution is.

>>715007558
>Your just to ignorant too actually understand what the theory of bodily humours and leeching is

>>715007205
Yes, that's a real thing, but it results in female clones of the mother. It can't explain a male birth.

>>715004144
>no one *has ever *witnessed an evolutionary change

Viruses evolve to become vaccine resistant almost daily

Bananas.

/thread

0/8 bait try harder next time

>>715001353
kek

>>715008202
This is an example of micro-evolution, which he just said he believes in. There are viruses that do undergo genetic changes, but those same viruses are still viruses at the end of the day. They don't become bacteria, archaea or eukarya. They are still viruses.

>>714999400
There are some Primatologists who think that we should be classified as a species of the pan genus (bonobos and chimps) actually, because of how closely related we are to them genetically. It's a closer relationship than a lot of animals that get classified within the same genus have. It is of course a minority opinion though.

>>714995280
Why are you so simple minded, as to think, all who question or disbelieve in the current paradigm of evolution is a proponent of creationism. The number of possible theories is infinite, and only an illogical person thinks it comes down to one alternative. We have yet to scratch the surface of science.

>>714995174
There must be alot more to evolution, in general, then what we've been told and what we even know as a whole at the moment. For example, while studying microbiology, you learn that all complex life on earth were single celled organisms at one point in time. That in no way explains how we are humanoid right now.

We didny evolve from monkeys, the closest we are to them is having a distant common ancestor, we are actually more closely related to chimps but we also branched from a distant common ancestor. OP is a dumbshit confirmed.

>>715004144

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w57_P9DZJ4


You desperately need this. Hopefully this corrects most of your misconceptions.

I don't understand why people believe it's either creationism OR evolution.

Why can't it be both?

Perhaps we were put here by God, and became something different, perhaps it is his plan.

It's really obvious there's God. And it is also really obvious we've grown as a species.

>>714995779
Underrated post.

>>714998109
>What is population equilibrium, scaling with ecosystem
>What is a species with the ability to change the ecosystem so that its equilibrium is however much the entire planet can sustain

Also,

>What was the Toba catastrophe

>>715011237
Bacteria created all life. Not an all knowing, all powerful figure

>>714995174
Niggers

>>714998633
There is some function that describes the relationship between the relative complexity/fragility of an organism and how dramatically adaptations present themselves (or, how 'quickly', measured in generations)

Grass, for example, may see next to no environmental adaptation for millions of years because it is ludicrously hardy. Most genetic trends in grass will be the byproduct of "random" mutations (radiation, poor cell copying, etc)

>>715007876
True. I just find that when dealing with creationists it's best to lay shit like that out in the open, and acknowledge that it is indeed a scientifically documented aspect of evolution, and not some secret weapon that they can use against it.

All young Earth creationists are under the impression that if one single aspect of biology is unknown, poorly understood, or just not mentioned in a discussion, that it automatically means evolution is entirely wrong, and therefore Biblical creationism wins by default. Never mind the possibility that both could be incorrect. Nope, it's either/or.

Christian creationists are a lot more clever in many ways than Muslim ones are. Christians have had like two centuries of experience dealing with skeptical criticism of their beliefs, and they understand that simply claiming shit to be true don't fly, so they've learned to get creative, and at least try to make shit sound logical, and come across as being somewhat polite and respectful.

Muslim creationists on the other hand tend to be from societies where questioning any aspect of Islam is punishable by death, so they usually won't bother to try and sound logical, or polite. They don't play games of convoluted mental gymnastics, because the very idea that there can be genuine debate over their beliefs is completely foreign to them. They don't mind coming across as complete imbeciles. They are a lot more entertaining to deal with because of this. Online of course. Might be a bit deadly to do it face-to-face.

>>714995174
Is that rama-pithicus or bush-habilas on the left? Either way, no there are not millions of them, just because it looks kinda like a monkey doesn't make it one...

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>>714995280
If god created all animals, and Noah really brought every single one on his Ark, then why are there only kangaroos in Australia?

Checkmate, religionfags.

>>714998072
Buried, because they all died. It's very difficult to dig up 200 million years of dirt and sift through it all you know.

>>714998072
Where is the evidence of stages between millions-years-old hominids and modern man? Most natural history museums. You should try it sometime--actually learning things.

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>>714995174
How did this get so many replies? It's not possible for any human to be stupid enough to deny evolution.. anyone who "disagrees" with evolution is an obvious troll 100% of the time.

>>715011237
Old Earth creationism does exist. The Catholic Church for example accepts evolution, believing it to be the manner of creation. Young Earth creationists (at least within Christianity) are actually in the minority. They are just a very vocal minority.

Look up St. Augustin e'er views on biblical literalism. He wrote a book specifically on why Genesis should not be taken literally. This was of course long before evolution, the coppernican revolution, pretty much the entirety of modern science. Still even in his day, scholars recognized how silly it was to read Genesis literally.

Also, if you want a real mindful, Google Hindu creationism. They believe in an old earth. A very, very, very old Earth. They believe humans have existed for trillions of years. As with Christian creationism (young Earth, that is) , the Hindu variety is considered fringe within the broader faith too.

>>714995280
Tell me clementine. Do you think we came from monkeys?

>>714995280
What got me when I was a teen, explain:
Acne
Baldness
Colds (Hmmm, foreign pathogen? Better generate so much mucus you can't breathe or sleep)

Not exactly intelligent design...

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>>714995174
level 1 troll used evolution "theory"...it's super effective!

>>715000300
We're the only Humanly intelligent species. We make our own definition of intelligence, then wonder why nothing else fits into it.

Maybe a squid has it's own idea of intelligence, and wonders why we're all so fucking dumb and no one else think's squiddy?

(just an example, but i do like squids)

>>715014827
Kek for real

Havent domestic dogs evolved from wolves, I mean I have never seen a pack of wild golden retrievers?

>>715004459
but a monkey ancestors are still a monkeys

>>714995174
Are you dumb?
>So where are the millions of these?
>Niggers

>>715011237
>Why can't it be both?
Because then you'd have to admit that you're wrong about something which then implies that you can be wrong about other things, too, which in turn implies your entire religion as a whole can be a lie. Then nobody will want to follow that religion which is bad for several reasons (mostly no more tax free money)


That's one line of reasoning behind it.

Glad you used the term "bluepilled". Made it easy to see you're a fucking retard.

>>715011237
It's so obvious God exists. So so obvious cuz uhhh faith

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>>715015487
this is exactly the exact reason religious folks are so stubbornly blinded by their beliefs. Look up cognitive dissonance, our brains don't want to do all that work learning about the world again so they have a defense mechanism to keep us wrapped up in what we already believe as long as possible.

>>715016302
Thread arguing scientific theory, you use fucking psychology of all things.gtfo

>>714995174
the pic is retarded. the """apes""" at the beginning are not chimpanzees. they are our common ancestor. they evolved into several species.

>>715015087
End all argument

>>715016435
>scientific theory
>psychology
>-ology
>noun: the scientific study of the human mind and its functions, especially those affecting behavior in a given context.


I don't think you made the point you think you made

>>715001185
Enough with the lame ass children bullshit!

>>714999334
It's always bait. Humans aren't designed to be stupid enough to deny evolution.. anyone who denies evolution anywhere at anytime is an automatic troll 100%. They know it's real

>>715016302
Have any horoscopes to back this up?

>>714995174
At some point there was a split in the evolutionary path of that particular primitive ape species, One half would stay more or less true to their ancestors design whilst the other would evolve into us. The "between species" were either bred out of existence or couldn't compete with more advanced humanoids and were wiped out.

Source: My ass.

>>715016852
see
>>715014827

idk why this shit even works anymore. Anons are fucking retarded, always responding without thinking first.

>>715015846
You're the retard in this situation

>>715016984
Read my post.. im explaining it's a troll.. who needs to read now?

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>>715017153
calm down edgelord i was agreeing with you
>thinking every (You) is a new confrontation

>>715001208
Nice

>>714995436
Stop showing that retarded webm, and that kid's fucking face!

>>715017414
I was agreeing with you. You need to calm down edgelord

>>715017481
Hey! That kid is a supreme gentleman.. watch yourself

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>>715017597
>who needs to read now?
wew lad, alright this thread is over

>>714995280
that is something called adaptation not evolution, also known as micro evolution, not the macro evolution presented. Even scientists agree on my statement.

>>714995174
In the ghettos

>>714997963
Then why is it still only call The Theory of Evolution by even Bill Nye the Science Guy, rather than, The Fact of Evolution. Cause even in an interview with Bill Nye, he said that it is possible for a grand designer to have started everything off in the time of the big bang. #lookupthefacts

>>714995174
>be 4chin americunt user.
>hard to understand evolution >and the process included.
>believes instead that god made man from shit and the woman from a rib found in the shit.
>prohibits eva to est the banana.
> "it's haram"
>eva tries out Adams banana
>allahu akburrrrrnnn in hell
> you go to hell and punishes >zillions of humans not yet >
>born.

>4chin americunt user.
>allahu akbar this is so tru i know because god says so.

>>715017971
>Even scientists agree on my statement.
Like the Muslim scientists that believe women who drive are damaging their fragile organs and that they are safer in the backseat? I'm pretty sure they also believe evolution to be haram.

>>715004144
Ugh. Jesus dude. Take a fucking science course or some shit. Read a book.

I'll give you two examples of human evolution that happened relatively recently. Lactose intolerance occurs in most humans after breastfeeding age, because spending energy producing energy to make lactase enzyme is a waste if you don't use it after breastfeeding. However, less than 10,000 years ago, some humans in neolithic europe had a mutation that allowed them to continue producing lactase enzyme, which allowed them to gain a higher level of survival, as they could obtain the caloric benefits of milk and dairy products. This eventually became a feature of most of the european population.These are things that are readily available to see in human DNA.

But this is not a dog being born with heat vision. It is a simple genetic anomaly that was advantageous. Over the course of millions of years, individual heritable traits survive in continuing generations simply because they confer a survival advantage. The kinds of changes you are talking about are expressed across entire species, through the accumulation of millions of gradual changes, over millions of years.

>>715002457
Oh but scientists say that certain fossils found in the same level of the earths crust, and I mean the exact same level, are up to millions of years apart from each other, even if the dirt tested in said spots says the dirt is the same age as the other dirt in another dig site. Explain.

>>714995174
Why do christfags always think that their religion has nothing to do with their refusal to accept evolutionary theory?

It would be much easier for them to just say that they don't believe in evolution because of religious reasons than to try to spread false science and debate about a theory they have no understanding of.

>>715018161
Theory as in scientific theory.
Not as in "I have a guess..."

A theory (in science terms) is a model describing and explaing reality.

Evolution itself *is* a fact. The theory of evolution explains that fact.

Fucking hell.

3/10, made me reply.

>>715018161
This is the problem with you idiots. Thanks to the internet and degree inflation, you're introduced to ideas that you can't handle or understand, hear what you want to hear, and then--by the fault only of your own shitty logic--declare it wrong.

>>715019383
"Oh but scientists say." To explain it simply, you're fucking retarded. You're looking for an infallible answer to a vague question. Fuck off.

>>715019419
I'm a christian and accept the evolution theory, don't swallow that bait so easily fag

>>715019828
and yet even science fags will say, The Creation Theory in the same regard as The Theory of Evolution. Explain.

>>714995174
religion is the BIGGEST blue pill in history

>>715020035
U wot m8?

>>715019838
Oh I actually look at every theory and plausible cause and effect that could be or might be, there is no just one idea out there that makes "you idiots" judge on one thing or the other. Have you spent the last 15 years studying the actual efforts of scientists from both sides or are you one of the ones that believes the bile that is spouted in school as 100% fact. Scientists say, Challenge everything believe nothing till you have tested it and retested it. Explain.

>>715020076
so is believing that there is aliens out there, aka a higher power.

>>715019964
and yet it is the very same scientists that state Evolution is a fact. explain.

>>715019838
That and that 30 years ago the same religious bile was spouted as fact in schools and Evolution has been around for over 100 years.

Still waiting on you so called intelligent fags here on /b/ to explain anything with your own logic rather than stating "your a fag" or some other bs answer that says nothing for how Intelligent you actually are.

>>714995174
they live in Africa

>>714995174

They're creating threads on /b/ like this one.

#noactualintelligentfagson/b/

>>714995174
This is the very definition of evolution, species that weren't succesful got selected out. Thank you OP for defending evolution

>>714995174
they are extinct dumbass, it's called natural selection and end of the fucking story

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>>715016435
>>715016929

>(You)

>>715018161
The fact of evolution is that evolution happens. Its not a theory, it happens, it can be shown and has indisputable evidence.

The THEORY of evolution is the current EXPLANATION as to WHY evolution happens.
IE natural selection and random mutations leading to the evolution of species.

Yes, it is possible there is another explanation for why it happens, but evolution itself, is a fact. The explanation for it, remains a scientific theory.

Stop fucking mixing it up, this is why idiots can't tell the difference, and cite it being "just a theory"

Gravity is a fact. It happens, you cannot argue it doesn't when it clearly does.

However, the theory for gravity (general relativity etc) is the theoretical explanation for its occurrence. Both of these theories are very good explanations and have an insane amount of evidence supporting them.

Stop calling theories facts, and stop mixing up facts with theoretical explanations of them.

>>715022567
holy fuck why isn't this proven yet?

>>715022567
well obviously

>>715020442
Aliens existing are a higher probability than a supreme infinite being.

You can find billions of different species on earth alone, why would anywhere else be different in such an incomprehensibly large place as the universe?

The only blue pilling going on is rounding the probabilities into absolutes, and believing they are the only answer.

They are probabilities, nothing more. Its possible some supreme infinite being exists and made everything, and its possible aliens exist.

But neither of those possibilities are equally probable. And neither one can be known to be absolutely wrong until we can know absolutely everything to prove it so.

>>715004144
>nobody denies micro"""'"evolution""""""
Literally most creationists do.
0/11 trolling

>>715022874
and yet the founder of the theory of Macro evolution look at only the basis of Micro Evolution. You still have not explained much of anything other than what others have already failed to properly present. Saying anything about someones intelligence makes your whole argument moot so try to use logic and explain it in a way that you would someone who has never heard of it before, not using things that most people take as a common place fact, aka what goes up must come down.

>>715004144
oh dude plz go to a schol or read a book

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>>715023185
Finaly someone with some actual thought in their mind. Thank you for showing that there are people on /b/ with some logical thinking.

>>715004144
Micro evolution leads to macro evolution, anon

It is funny how people who doubt evolution are always among those who cannot understand evolution.