Veganism is Compassion

>>714975712
quick question

whats wrong with killing and torturing animals
to death , then eating them to fulfill service to the dark masters?

>>714975712
>>714976078
my point /b/ro, is that you guys are too fucking easy, when somthings better you dont need to push it onto other ppl, gives it less appeal, then somthing thats secret or forbbiden.

>>714975712
Veganism is shoving celery in people's anuses.

>>714975712
Compassion is for pussies.

>>714975712
Meat is delicious.

>>714976866
Food is not medicine.

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>>714976376
How about eating normally, mixing vegetables with meat and everything between? Why does it have to be either or for extremists like you out there on the left edge?

>>714975712

>>714977008
Yes it is

>>714975712
That's cool but why should I go vegan when I can just continue to eat meat? I'm pretty happy with my lifestyle right now and I don't see how veganism would improve my life in any way.

>>714977108
nah man medicine is medicine and food is food. You a dumb nigger or what?

>>714977130
It will how old are you and what to you eat every day ?

>>714977147
No food is Medicine

>>714977237
I'm 18 and I eat ass every day.

The only good thing to come out of veganism is cattle decapitation

>>714977296
How long or well do you expect to live ?
Are your parent or grand parents still alive ?

>>714977295
nah nigger, food is food, that is why it's called food and not medicine. I know words are hard for your negroid brain but that's how it works.

>>714975712
>having compassion for things that don't have linguistic intelligence

>>714977108
Prove it.

>>714977439
When I'm deep in that ass I feel like I could die. My parent and grand parent died from ruptured anuses.

>>714977514
>medicine
What is Medicine ?

>>714977237
i'm 19. I eat a bowl of wheat cereal in the morning with peanut butter mixed with whey protein on buttermilk bread, and occasionally I'll have a fresh sliced orange if i'm feeling hungry. For lunch I snack on whatever I want. Sometimes I have a sandwich, either egg salad or turkey, sometimes I have a quick salad. Sometimes I have whatever I can grab at the store if i'm out. Deli food is life.

Dinner varies a lot depending on my mood. Sometimes I cook steak, sometimes I grill chicken, sometimes I make spaghetti with either ground beef, ground turkey, or a pork/beef meatball with a 4-cheese tomato sauce. Sometimes I'll just have pizza or french fries and a burger. I eat a lot of different foods.

I'll generally snack on chips, various handfruits, carrots, or hard boiled eggs throughout the day. I work from home and I consume a lot of calories every day to keep my weight optimal.

I eat meat every single day though.

>>714977519
Go vegan and you will find out for your self take my word for it

>>714977625
Niggah medicine is like that doctor shit fuck man I know you ain't that rtarded n shit come on now

>>714977692
Eat my asshole every day and you'll feel fantastic. Try it for yourself and you'll find out. What do you have to lose anon?

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>>714977636

>>714977703
Define what is medicine ?
food is medicine

>>714977826
This looks like propaganda.

Most of you people are not very bright wake up

>>714977899
nah man nah you aint even listening. We went over this. Food is food and medicine is medicine. I don't even know how you keep fucking this up come on now
Ya keep asking questions but you dont want the answers

>>714977899
a compound or preparation used for the treatment or prevention of disease, especially a drug or drugs taken by mouth.

>>714975712
Then I'm a cannibal.

>>714977977
Eat it 3 meals a day go on

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>>714975712
god-damn hippie faggot

>>714978023
Why would I eat the same thing 3 times a day?

>>714977997
Define medicine ?

on every square inch of every plant there are millions of tiny animals that are undetectable without a microcope. tiny but still animals. checkmate vegans.

>>714975712
Veganism is gay:
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>>999999999

>>714975712
I as a human cannot eat most vegetables or fruits, I am a carnivore first like my ancestors. My ancestors ate 75% meat and they survived the harsh European wilds of the dark ages

>>714978102
I think vegans try to argue that animals like cows a chickens feel pain, and suffer under their conditions.

My only question is why should I care? Life is only temporary. Death is the end of everything for every single creature. Why should I sympathize with temporary suffering?

>>714978102
Ever heard of global warming you retard?

>>714978072
Nigger medicine is medicine are you being serial with me now? Shit son you have an internet right in front of you figure it out

>>714975712
veganism is faggotry

>>714978000
Why use drugs to mask symptoms when you could prevent it but eating real food

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Compassion aside.

It's probably the biggest foreseeable way of saving the planet, the atmosphere, and future human life.

But people don't give a shit because all they care about is "muh taste buds". It's disgusting and idiotic.

The human race really is some piece of work...
And honestly, it deserves to die out for it's stupidity.

>>714978102
>>714978262
>global warming
What did he mean by this?

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>>714978043

>>714978060
Try it see how you go

>>714978279
Your racist language speaks volumes

"a drug or other preparation for the treatment or prevention of disease."

http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/cancers-in-general/cancer-questions/can-turmeric-prevent-bowel-cancer

http://preventcancer.aicr.org/site/PageServer?pagename=foodsthatfightcancer_green_tea

https://thetruthaboutcancer.com/cancer-fighting-health-benefits-of-blueberries/

Food is medicine (at least, vegan food is)

>>714978367
>And honestly, it deserves to die out for it's stupidity.

start off by setting an example

>>714978102
what does that have to do with anything ?

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>>714976486
the person who made that picture has to be neutered asap.

>>714978367
Well Said I agree

>>714978496
Thank you real food is yes

>>714978393
Many people are vegan beacuse animal agriculture is the number one cause for global warming. So even if eating plants only would be somehow bad because you kill small animals that are on the plants it still doesnt matter.
Also if you eat meat you probably still kill more animals overall because the animals you eat are being fed with plants too.

>>714978367
Functional, sustainable veganism is impossible to do on a worldwide scale. Since you're a city-dwelling hipster you don't possess even the first clue about agricultural sustainability. We don't eat meat just because we love the taste of murder. Meat contains nutrients we need to survive. Attaining some of those nutrients from plant matter is either nonviable, cannot be done without creating more waste, or simply cannot be done on such a large scale.
Combine that with your shitty attempts at trying to recruit by appealing to your own smug, yet misplaced moral superiority turns off many people before you even attempt an actual argument.

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>>714978496
>https://thetruthaboutcancer.com/cancer-fighting-health-benefits-of-blueberries/

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>>714978182
Because their suffering has real life dire consequences for us all?

Your health, the environment, the lives of future generations.

Their suffering effects us ALL.

Before you make the argument of cars and electricity, it's a known fact that animal agriculture is THE NUMBER 1 cause of greenhouse emissions, deforestation, and world hunger.

A few moments of menial pleasure in your mouth isn't worth any of that.

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>>714978496
>714978043

>>714978855
>Meat contains nutrients we need to survive. Attaining some of those nutrients from plant matter is either nonviable, cannot be done without creating more waste, or simply cannot be done on such a large scale.
Well, name some nutrients then.

>>714978855
Since you're a perma field dwelling hillbilly, you don't possess even the first clue about human nutrition.

We don't eat meat because meat contains no nutrients that we need to survive. Attaining ALL of the nutrients from plant matter is viable, can be done while creating far less waste, and simply can be done on a large scale (yno since even meat eaters get the exact same nutrients when they eat a variety of healthful plant foods.

Your misplaced intelligent superiority complex turns off many people via misinformation.

Go read up on vegan nutrition, it is not hard at all.

>>714978816
Emissions from farm animals is a drop in the bucket compared to machinery man has made to keep the modern world running.
Maybe you should do your part by throwing your iphone into a trash can and move to your nearby hippie commune (protip; even they eat meat sometimes so don't be surprised).

>>714975712
who cares, i love my bacon

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>>714979149
Wrong, Animal agriculture is not a drop in the bucket, it's actually responsible for 18% of all GHG emissions, and a much bigger percent of the CO2 emissions (51%)

Transportation is responsible for 13% of CO2 emissions, and look at how many cars/planes/boats etc there are

http://www.fao.org/docrep/010/a0701e/a0701e00.HTM

http://www.animalfeedscience.com/article/S0377-8401(11)00517-7/abstract

>>714979336
love it thank you

>>714978855
You do realize that the land it takes to grow food for the animals + the land the animals need themselves is far greater and far less sustainable than just using land to grow food for ourselves, right?

>>714979093
Your brain is so starved you just tried to flip my argument around but even then you fucked it up. You couldn't live on your pure vegan diet without modern advances that require scarce resources drawn from around the globe.
Nobody wants to be in your faggot livestock fuck cult.

>>714978995
vegetarianism would solve that issue already. You vegans just need something to feel superior over other people.

as a person who works as a fisherman and eats whalemeat i feel no compassion towards animals.

>>714979555
>he thinks we feed animals the good stuff
We feed our animals the food unfit for human consumers and what is left over. The space used is irrelevant, that land isn't being used for anything else and some of those regions would make for poor farmland.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao2GL3NAWQU

>>714979555
yeah but vegetarianism alraedy adresses that issue adequately. no need to go full extremist sjw.

Another way to solve the farm animal issue would be to eat insects. Roach farms are being tested right now in china.

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>>714979555
>implying there's no place left anywhere.

>>714979093
pretty sure humans starting eating meat to survive. because protein, the nutrient.

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>>714979691
No, perpetually impregnating cows and chickens, clearing out rain forests for their food, and having all of their emissions fuck up the ozone layer would NOT solve that issue

WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE
AND ACTUALLY READ UP ON STUFF BEFORE YOU TRY TO MAKE A STANCE

>>714975712
The new opium for the people. Hail health an everything someone, somewhere says, that is good for your health.

>>714977008
Actually it is.

>>714980031
We aren't in a survival situation though.
We're not trapped on an island.
We all have access to grocery stores with an abundance of plantbased, cruelty free food

and fyi EVERYTHING has protein. And if you're eating enough calories on a vegan diet, it's impossible not to get enough protein.

>>714975712
Is this a grassfag?

>>714980322
>EVERYTHING has protein
How many heads of lettuce do you eat a day? Do you seriously think all proteins are the same?

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>>714975712
Why live longer and be like sheep when you can live better and be like wolf?

>>714980096
>perpetually impregnating cows and chickens
How dare we force such unnatural things on animals.
>clearing out rain forests for their food
What, like monkey meat? I think I know what you're trying to say here but you sound stupid.
>muh Ozone layer
Cow farts aren't doing shit to the ozone and you have no proof otherwise.

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>>714979886
No, no it doesn't vegetarian diets are barely better than omnivorous diets, They still needs cows born every year, they still need chickens born every year

>>714980031
I honestly thought you were going to come at me with actual nutrients vegans need to supplement such as B12, EPA/DHA, but no you spew your ignorance of nutrition with fucking protein, please bruh, don't debate something you don't fully understand because you convince people.

Protein is also a macronutrient, AKA easy to find in all sorts of foods, it's micronutrients people usually become deficient in (usually from nutrient void overly processed foods and bad diet decisions

>>714980911
No proof otherwise

Clearly has done 0 research because there's plentiful proof

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>>714981013
Right, that's why you posted it. Check and mate faggot.

animals will kill you regardless of if you want to kill them or not

>>714975712
idc

the dopamine hit i get from eating meat is greater than the hit i get from feeling good about being vegan.

trying to cut off mammals from my diet though

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8WbWzU9bMA

>>714975712
https://youtu.be/yn8XU-zEKmE
Words of wisdom.

>>714981230
>Broccoli
>all that misleading information
A little over a cup of beef is enough for your days worth of complete proteins.
You'd eat 20 cups of broccoli a day? I doubt that faggot.

>>714981643
vegans are just vegetarians that are unhealthily emotionally attached to their diet and the diet of others.

>>714981763
It's sad really.

>>714981583
Hey look he's obese!

>>714981817
ya, i think it's defeating their purpose. pushing others into their way of life. like i'm trying to eat less meat because it's shitty for the planet and also cows are rly cute; but when these guys come in and start throwing bogus facts like that image and acting all superior it kinda makes me wanna spend $20 at mcdonalds

>>714979336
>Transportation is responsible for 13% of CO2 emissions, and look at how many cars/planes/boats etc there are

You may also want to look up, how much livestock there is. That may surprise you, but with your caclulation, they don't really have an impact. Best would be, if people would eat meat more responsible and (the main cause for the high CO² emission) stop burning rain forest wood for cattle.

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>>714980772
Fuck Yeah

>>714981643
I got plenty of protein today from hummus, pita bread, tomatoes, spinach, and cucumbers.

And without any of the heart attack inducing, artery clogging, planet ruining, cancer inducing shit that's in meat

I get regular blood test and they're always fantastic and always miles better than the people in my family who eat meat.

>>714982005
what if i wanna treat my body like a rental car

can u just respect that?

>>714981569
Ha ha ha good 1

>>714982005
>blood
yep i agree my blood is fantastic too

>>714982005
>getting enough protein from hummus, bread, tomatoes, spinach, and cucumbers
No you didn't. Unless you're eating way beyond what is an acceptable amount of food.

>>714982079
You are in for a lot of PAIN & SUFFERING and we don want that for you ok compasion its called

>>714979555
But cattle also only eats grass, while vegans need different fancy foods, that need fertilizers or use up all minerals in the soil. Those are the biggest problem imo, it already affects 20% of your soil and made it effectively useless.

https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/csem/csem.asp?csem=28&po=5

>>714982342
this is how i like to live.

>>714975712
veganism is communistic propaganda

*claps

>>714982342
Life is pain and suffering.

>>714975712
Like plants wanna get eaten just as much as animals do

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>>714979093
Yeah so try to substain a vegan lifestyle in any part of the world with a different climatic situation than North America or Europe.
You will quickly find your pathetic hipster ass in the need of eating cows in the middle of a fucking desert.

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>DID SOMEBODY SAY
>NO VEGETALS?

>>714981230
That's either a false flag or your sources are shit. This table is completely false, read it up.

>>714982897
If cows can find food sources in those places
Humans can too


not rocket science

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>>714983182

>>714983130
You're going to get on all fours and start chomping on grass huh?

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>>714983275
If conditions are forgiving enough for grass to grow
Other things can also grow

Water is also important too you know. And you'd get more water for yourself if you didn't put it towards growing a hundred pound animal.


Anyways, I get that your ego is hurt and you don't wanna see yourself as a bad person, but there's only so much turning your head away from the truth that you can do until we ALL pay for it

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>>714975712

>>714975712
Being a vegetarian is like being a bisexual. It's ok for a woman to be one but it's not ok for a man to be one.

>>714978677
Pretty sure they already have been neutered.

>>714983576
I guess, you don't know, how flora in desserts and arid climate works?

>>714983576
So you think you can just dig up the shitty soil and plant your magic beans and have a feast in the morning?
That's somehow even more asinine than eating the grass. You're just being pedantic and failing to twist the words around but you're just making it worse. In some regions meat is crucial for surviving, but that goes against your indoctrinated "feels over reals" beliefs so you'll just make shit up.

>>714981230
>230▶>>714981643 >>714983034
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That slab of beef looks tasty.

>>714983832
You can do things to improve the soil like compost and there is also hydroponics

>>714981230
Hey, I'm vegetarian and this is a total hoax. You can have protein without eating any meat, for sur, and that's easy as your first shit. But..... there's like no protein in every aliment you mentioned.

>>714983821
So they made cages that allow them to roam around without hurting their pig bodies and you have a problem with that? You must really hate pigs.

>>714983964
>You can do things to improve the soil like compost and there is also hydroponics
You get compost from those animals you keep. But you don't keep animals on vegan farms. Hydroponics uses water, I thought you're against wasting water that you can use to drink.
Of course you prove you really don't know shit about what you're talking about and you are completely unselfaware.

>>714983964
>things to improve the soil like compost
You seem to forget, that you just advocated to not use animals in that climate?
>hydroponics
And now we are getting rediculous. Try that in a third world country, where the vaporizing water also oversalts the minerals and soil.

>>714984011
they can't roam around with cages like those, stupid.

>>714984188
My favorite candy, can't get enough of it. Best part of the pig.

>>714984188
Everybody knows this already. Would you rather just waste these animal products?

>>714984309
Why kill them in the first place ?

>>714976078
It does more damage to the environment than fossil fuels and the coal industry combined, and is not sustainable for the planet long term.

- Cowspiracy

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>>714982734

>>714984273
Yeah they can, they're resting on the cool ground, which is a pig thing. You're just cherrypicking images that make it look worse. Typical of your kind.

>>714982707
Only because of what you eat and how you think

>>714984373
Why do you ask questions you know the answer to?
We eat them, of course.

>>714984499
i didn't post the pic, and i'm not even vegan. Stop shitting on yourself as soon as someone is responding to your stupid sentences. Don't be that stupid, you see well that it's impossible to move with cages like that. When they stand up, the cage is still on the ground, immobilizing them.

>>714984514
Dukkha

>>714984651
Anon their feet are through the bars. Use your eyes man come on now. Don't fall for their food-based communism.

>>714984832
Gorillas are omnivores.

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Nothing wrong with veganism. I go vegan sometimes when I diet. Don't try to say that veganism is natural though. Try and survive in the wild and live off of only the local edible flora in that area. You're going to starve to death and collapse from exhaustion.

Veganism is only achievable in modern society due to the fact that you can but every type of vegi/fruit from every corner of the world, along with vitamins and supplements at your local store.

>>714984964
if something goes bad how can you say it's good for you?

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>>714984832
Fuck Yeah

>>714984911
Pretty much all gorilla species stick to plant based diets.
and the few species that don't only eat small insects sparingly

>>714984798
>trying this hard.

Man, you know, animals grown for food are not well treated. Welcome in real world.

>>714985154
Incorrect, while plants are their staple they do indeed eat meat when it is an option. Gorillas aren't built for hunting, otherwise they would eat more as it's a more efficient way to attain calories and protein they need to sustain their mass. That's why they have to spend so much of their day grazing and they display their physical prowess in short bursts.

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>>714975712
i am the kaos. i am the almighty. i have returned from my slumber because you have summoned me. i put all of you on notice. my power is reaching out to you. you cannot escape. your age is at an end. mine is just beginning.

>>714985285
They are but that picture isn't one of those situations. If you're going to post propaganda at least do a better job of it.

>>714985289
Even strict herbivore eat meat from time to time, if given the chance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USbkGnoqrec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQOQdBLHrLk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHlTIDu9ODM

>>714985447
Yes, even the most adorable animal wouldn't hesitate to eat you alive if they could. Life is harsh and nature has no room for pussies.

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>>714985020
We do live in a modern society I dont know what you think you live in Bear Grylls ?

>>714985603
Just debunking the argument that humans are naturally vegan, stupid. Because we arent.

>>714980911

>Cow farts aren't doing shit to the ozone

Actually it's the clearing of our forests which are doing the most damage, it's literally removing the lungs of our planet.

>How dare we force such unnatural things on animals.

So if a highly advanced species of aliens came to Earth who somehow were as socially retarded as us humans and decided they could profit from our mens meat and our womens milk and forced our species into slavery, you would be totally cool with them, chaining up your mother, sister and daughter, impregnating them with some random guys sperm by force and milking them for the rest of their lives until they die(which happens much faster under these conditions) not to mention this is after they already killed you since you're a guy and you're only good for meat anyway, maybe you were lucky enough to have one of the guys jack you off with a fleshlight first to harvest some of your sperm for future slaves.

>>714985807
How do you know ?
You debunk nothing

>>714985894
Yeah, I'd be cool with that.

>>714986173

>wants to be jacked off by aliens then murdered

Fag

>>714986255
>Not wanting a cold xenophillic experience before full in one's purpose and falling into the cold embrace of death
This is my very specific fetish. If thats what a fag is, then a fag I must be. I am glad you are so versed in faggot culture.

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So there's at least three vegans in this thread including me...

You guise wanna start a skype group?

>>714986597
Yeah

>>714986513

>I am glad you are so versed in faggot culture.

What else did you expect on 4chan?

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>>714986703
https://join.skype.com/LSqAYu1zco3r

>>714986139
Because I've been backpacking/hiking for years. Nothing is worse than not getting any meat for a few days and living off of berries and fucking roots.

>>714987366
Lrn 2 detect meat eaters who are b8ing

PAX PER BELLUM

>>714987366

I wouldn't say that we're naturally meant for any one specific diet, I think we're truly omnivores since this is how we developed over time and it was the most efficient for us to do so because of our physiology and all the places we lived.

However that being said our diet has to suit our situation and we have reached a population where consuming animal products requires industrial production which is not only damaging to our environment, damaging to those who consume them because of the poor quality created through mass production but it's also incredibly cruel to the animals to kill and abuse billions of them in order to satisfy the gluttonous lust of people, when there are still even about a billion people starving today. It's ridiculous.

If society collapsed and most of the people were gone then yah it would be acceptable to hunt for food in order to survive but in this day and age with the technology and techniques we have it's completely unnecessary, other than people just like the taste.

>>714975712
I have no compassion for humans anymore.
Savage species of ignorant ape just barely intelligent enough to be a danger to itself and everything else on earth. Fuck all of ya.

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He is one of the reasons I went vegan

>>714977636
Good anon! too much is bad, tho.

>>714988599
Join the skype group bruv!
>>714987108

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vegaanism ins a mental illness caused by liberalism

>>714975712
I wouldnt have a problem with vegans if they didnt try to shove the fact that theyre vegan down everyones throat.

>>714978214
>It's gay af.
>Meat is delicious.
>Animals have no feelings.
>Vegan leads to conspirative lunacy, CL leads to psych facility, PF means to an hero.

>>714988724
you can ad me on facebook

That's nice. How do you justify compassion? Acting in my own interests comes naturally and provides the most obvious benefits.

>It's probably the biggest foreseeable way of saving the planet, the atmosphere, and future human life.

Anon do you even fucking agriculture?
Do you even economics and demography?
Jesus...


>>714978855
>>714978544
/thread

>>714978677
Don't worry. Almost all vegans are so malnourished that they can't reproduce.

>>714975712
>had pot roast for dinner last night
Delicious, moist, salty beef.

>>714979555
>Implying animals are grown out of nature nowadays.

kys

>>714978214

I'm vegan but I don't shove it in other people's faces, here's why:

> There's no proven health benefits vs. a balanced diet of any other kind. Read it again - There's ZERO studies proving that being a vegan is healthier than a BALANCED diet of any kind. It's actually unhealthier if you consider supplements are needed.
> It's far more expensive in most countries to maintain. It sure is in mine.
> As previously stated It requires supplements to stay healthy, which adds to the cost and feasibility.

That said, I wouldn't want it any other way. It fits in with the way I live my life and see myself in the world.
It won't be the case for everyone so very few people know I'm vegan apart from my SO (who isn't vegan).

>>714980950
Most of those things you listed are shit sources of protein, i.e. low in protein and not complete proteins. Unless you're eating a lot of tofu, getting enough protein as a vegan is going to involve eating a fuck ton of carbs or fat.

B12 is the perfect proof that a vegan diet is unhealthy.
If you're going to rely on dietary supplements, how is your pet diet better than any other? (Hint: it's not!)

>>714989117
This is the right way to vegan.

>>714981461
but those are the tastiest proteins!

>>714989242
you can get b12 from a bowl of breakfast cereal now fuck off with that lame, tired argument

>>714980950
>>714979555
>>714978367

Why not just say that it's all about compassion and remorse? We have been doing this since A. Africanus. It never mattered until the moment somebody turned it all into a trend and every single faggot jumped in the bandwagon.

Kill yourself.

>>714989347
Also from a fucking pill for that matter, yo.

>>714982005
>I get regular blood test and they're always fantastic
What vitamins are you taking?

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>>714989103
The retard who made this picture had to put the names of the vegetables...

>>714982079
>rental car after you got the good insurance on it
FTFY

>>714989539
you can get nearly any vitamin from a pill, taking a daily multivitamin isn't frowned on so why is taking a b12 supplement? in fact most multivitamins have your daily value of b12 as well as every other vitamin you need

>>714983973
They do contain protein, but not very much and it's not complete, so you have to plan it out or eat a real variety of foods or it's totally meaningless

>>714984000
If you don't like sugar and simple carbohydrates, stay away from most vegan diets. Who wants some more bread and white rice?!?!

>>714989713
or you could eat things like nuts which contain the same amount of of protein and amino acids

itt :fucking retards who think that veganism is based solely on ethics. Newsflash- a proper vegan diet is the healthiest that there is. Have fun with your high counts of low density lipoproteins and plaque encrusting your blood vessels.

You fucking idiots don't realize the number one cause of death in the US is reflective of the common diet.. I couldn't be asked to give a single fuck about the animals, but when it comes to my life span and health, I know how to prioritize. You all should as well.

>>714989347
>dietary supplements
What do you think breakfast cereals are, you dipshit?
Mother nature didn't put B12 in your cornflakes, retard.

>>714989539
>>714989639
>just take vitamins
>it doesn't matter what you eat!
if I can get all my nutrients from pills, why should anyone give a shit about what diet you think is best?
either diet is important or it isn't
which is it?

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>>714981309

Canadafag here.Global warming is very real and very fucking annoying. Each summer is breaking new heat heights and we're getting birds and bugs that frankly I haven't seen in all 30+ years of my life. Winter keeps coming later and later. It used to start snowing late september, early october.. This year it rained at the end of october. I've never seen that in my life. Last year it snowed maybe 2 - 3 times all year, and suddenly I know what spring is when that never used to be a thing here. This isn't a joke and although some kike in chinafghanistan was the first to bring it up, it's more than real. EIther they're telling the truth or Harpa is fucking with the weather to make people pay... But this shit is very real and anything done to prevent is MUCH NEEDED because fuck having 90+ degree heat with 100% humidity in Canada, that shit is unlivable.

>>714989838
what's your point?

mother nature filled that red meat you've been chewing on with tumor growth accelerating carcinogens but you probably don't mind since mother nature put them there right?

>>714975712
No, veganism is veganism.
Learn to Websters.

>>714989951
>implying I eat red meat
uh oh
try harder

>>714989951
>what's your point?
see
>>714989912

>>714989912
truth, in fact you'll probably live longer because it's scientifically proven that calorie restriction extends your lifespan and you arent stuffing half a pound of flesh down your throat to meet "muh protein and b12 needs"

>>714989912
>vitamins are just like any other nutrient

Understand macronutrients you fucking bozo. A diet is your daily supplement, just on a larger scale. You need monosaccharides, nucleic acids, amino acids etc but on a much larger scale than vitamins and minerals. Hence large portions that we orally ingest. How stupid are you?

>>714990057
it doesn't matter, animal protein in general is hell on your body and it's up to you to figure out why by doing some research, i'm not going to spoonfeed info to an ignorant fuckwit troll

>>714990113
>A diet is your daily supplement, just on a larger scale
Hahahahaha
If you can't distinguish the two, you don't even have a right to be in this admittedly dumbed-down conversation.

Macronutrients have almost nothing to do with the issue at hand. You can get the same macronutrients from either plants or animals, even carbohydrates.

Try harder, little buddy. You'll think of something that I'm actually wrong about eventually.

Vegans always go on about how they get to live that extra couple of years but those last years are always the worst.

>>714990113
yeah but you wont be eating to fill your other nutrient needs because you took a vitamin and therefore you can just eat what you need to meet your macronutrient requirements, which can easily be accomplished by eating a bowl of peanuts lol

>>714990320
It's not the extra years that are bad. It's living life as the kind of shit person who goes vegan that's the real self-imposed hell.

>>714990320

>but those last years are always the worst.
oh, yeah. the WORST

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/restaurants/bombshell-70-year-old-raw-vegan-annette-larkins-leads-us-to-fountain-of-youth-6569585

>>714975712
global warning, watch out for flatulence.

supreme b8.

On that same note, I am vegan, but I try not to be a cunt about it. It's just something I do, and I expect no one else to come to the same conclusion as I have. Not out of superiority, but through some understanding that not everyone interprets things the same as me (this is a weird thing to try and discuss on 4chan because every autismo thinks "I don't like X so therefore it MUST be dumb").

Also I live in an area where being vegan is easy and inexpensive. You do you, nigga.

>>714990404
she looks like she fell out the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

also wow, 70 years old! that such an impressive age to reach

>>714990598
way to be so fucking braindead that you entirely miss the point with flying colors

>>714990467
Same. I think a big thing is black and white thinking is rooted in inexperience in life because you haven't been exposed to enough different stuff.

4chan has a lot of people who dont have much life experience but still yearn to have social contact with other people.

I'm a vegetarian myself because I took DMT one time and then I could never eat meat again without thinking of my dog and how much I love him every time.

Except sushi. That is my only cheat. I fucking love tuna but thats only once a month at most.

>>714990598
You can't deny she's more vibrant and youthful looking than her meat-eating 70 year old counterparts

I actually went Vegan for half a year. I've never been more miserable. All of my friends made fun of me and I just felt so restricted.

Who gives a fuck about the planet, I'll be dead in 60 years. Fuck Veganism and fuck vegans.

>>714990691
Honestly I can come up with examples too of people who are like 105 and they drink whiskey and smoke cigarrettes and eat bacon all day.

People age differently and some people like to enjoy their life when they don't have arthritis or any other old age related disease.

>>714990680
>
>rooted in inexperience
For sure, also the nature of anonymity and humour/cynicism that is so prevalent on 4chan breeds a lot of black and white thinking that you can't tell if the person actually believes what they say or they're trolling

>sushi
I feel it, bro. I don't have a cheat, but I do miss seafood. I may eat a lobster or something if I catch it myself and cook it and all, I dunno though. I feel like I'd be a hypocrite kind of, so it's something I struggle with.

>>714990825
>caring what your friends say about you

>>714990825
>make a conscious decision to improve your life in some way

>"friends" make fun of you

nice friends you got there

>>714990598
the point of denying yourself delicious, nutritious food in exchange of being able to desperately cling on to your youth, like an kardashian?

i rather eat tasty food & die in my 50's than becoming a character, straight out of huxley's brave new world.

>>714990987
okay fatty

Thanks to you faggot, I just ate meat for the first time in 6 years.

>pigsodamngood.iso

>>714990884
I know that feeling of being a hypocrite, but in my eyes drastically reducing my consumption while still retaining something I love is worth the moral inconsistency. Human beings are not perfect creatures so I won't try to be a perfect person. Just a better person than I was yesterday.

Some people hurt so much and so deeply and for so long in life

And eventually you get to a point where you start to ask questions about where it came from, how it all started, and the conditions that went into the people who hurt you hurting you.

And then you realize that ALL of our suffering is inter-related. That ALL suffering bleeds out and sends ripples outwards to us all.

Some people just have matured to this point yet... and it's sad the most people have to go through intense suffering to open the doorway to compassion.

I live on a poultry farm. Tonight I'm going to kill one chicken for every post in this thread.

If you're a compassionate vegan, go ahead and post to kill a living being.

>>714991133
thanks for your post
>>714991137

>>714990987
I'm glad you've come to that conclusion, man. I'm vegan, but if you're happy with what you're doing and you accept its consequences (whether good or bad) then good on you.


The only thing that bothers me is when people deny the ramifications factory farming has on the environment and how it also doesn't help that we're feeding most of our vegetables to cows to get cheap meat. Whether or not you believe the animals are treated cruely is pretty subjective, but there's no doubt that we can't sustain this type of mass production of meat. I think we should cut back on it a tiny bit, and raise the prices a bit to compensate for higher quality meats.

>>714991137
i'm a sociopathic vegan who only does it for the health benefits, for every chicken you claim to kill i really will stomp a kitten, there's a litter in the other room

>>714991250
beautiful
(I actually eat vegan most days for more or less the same reason)

>>714978995

you got some more of this ancient magical girl?

>>714991250
There are 259 posts in this thread.
How big is that litter?

>>714991117
I didn't mean to imply that you were a hypocrite, if that's the impression I gave. Again, when I think of veganism I think of it as something that I must do for myself. It's an arduous path, and a burden that I impose on myself, yet I expect no one else to understand or do the same. I've got a nigh-autistic level of some weird code-of-honor thing that I try to follow, so I may just be overthinking it. I should just shut up and catch a lobster once every few months, probably

>>714977636
>sometimes I cook steak
What the fuck is wrong with you you disgusting britbong

>>714991208
>we can't sustain this type of mass production of meat
that's pure cowspiracy-vegan-bullshit and has debunked already

>>714991137

>>714991250

I'm a vegan and I have an intense hate for both cats, and chickens.

Carry on.

>>714991322
we're gonna need more kittens

>>714991326
Oh no worries dude I never felt attacked or anything. Thats a pretty cool thing you've got for yourself.

I'm not that strong of a person when it comes to food so I personally can't do it, but I think its great you can.

>>714991343
[citation needed]

>>714983182
>171cm "tall"
Malnutrition held him down

You guys hear of the company using plant-based matter to make burgers that tastes just as good as the real thing and bleeds like the real thing? Apparently a super famous chef who specializes in meat loves it.

>>714991578
He has been vegan since 2011 you knob he was fully grown by then

>>714991578
116kg on 171 thats fatass lvl

>>714975712
plants are living things too
hypocritical faggot

>>714991668
Yeah, he stopped growing in 2011 because of his protein deficient diet. I kept growing until 2015 because I eat red meat and I'm over 200cm.

>>714991734

>they call me plant god

>>714991465
Thank you, it's not the easiest, so it's nice to hear a bit of recognition everyone once in a while (even though that's not the reason I do this). I read a lot about self-mastery, like the code of bushido, knight's code of chivalry, even the pious nature of monks, and it's something I respect. I'm no saint, and I sure as hell don't seclude myself from technology (in fact, I just got off of a 7 hour Dark Souls binge), but I very much align myself with a centered and disciplined attitude towards life and everything in it.

>>714975712
I like meat too much vegan food needs to step up their game

>>714991766
The middle road is the easiest traveled is what I say. :D

I'll become vegan when there's vegan food that's cheaper and tastes better than the meat dishes I enjoy

>>714991801
I'd say it's improved quite a bit even in the last few years. I first stopped eating meat about 7 years ago, and the choices were severely limited, and most of them sucked. It's getting better, but it'll take time to reach its full potential. I have a theory that the uncanny valley exists for our tastebuds as well, so meat-substitutes will never fully 100% satisfy our caveman desires for bison booty meat. But they can get pretty damn close

>>714991986
http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/panoply/the-ezra-klein-show/e/patrick-brown-on-plantmeat-that-bleeds-and-the-science-of-flavor-45209349

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>>714978995
give me some sources. and not bullshitlibtardhippy.org shit

>>714992074
sounds good!

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>>714992197
yeah, give us something peer reviewed. research published in Science or Nature or some other journal

>>714992423
dicks out

I went vegan after eating meat in nearly every meal. Lasted 3 months before breaking vegan with hungover take away and that became a habbit.
Now I'm kind of pseudo vegan. I still dont buy animal products in my groceries or eat it at home, but if I'm out or hungover ill eat it.
I think I fucked up because I jumped straight in the deep end and deprived myself of it so i reckon if i keep it the way Im going ill eventually quit meat altogether.

Fuck the meat industry though dudes, it's too cruel the way they kill the animals

>>714975712
I was listening to a thing on NPR talking about how plants are sentient, that even though they may not make audible noise they biological chemicals to manipulate the animals around them to their environment. There is one plant, that, when it comes under attack, will release a chemical to attract the predators of its attacker.

>>714979027
DHA you stupid inbred hippie. No plant has enough in it to make it worth extracting but you know what does have enough in a single serving? Meat you jack ass.
>>714979093
See above comment, Neanderthal

>>714992782
Killing them is what puts them out of the misery. It's the living conditions that are pretty fucked. Good luck quitting if you do so, though. It's not easy.

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know what i have always wondered
what are vegans thoughts on carnivorous plants?
you know the plants that eat insects and small rodents etc.

>>714992848
That is true. If the meat industry realises how far synthetic meats is coming along I'm sure they could double their profits by using that instead of torture as well

Thanks my dude, I'm getting there!!

>>714992782
Thats why I have a cheat food. I only eat sushi like once a month and it helps a lot when I get cravings cause it just makes it better when I do get to eat sushi.

Other than that I'm strictly vegetarian.

>>714978333
This man is right; chicken soup (and beef stew) is great for colds.

>>714992900
They're freaks of nature, that's what. But in all seriousness they still aren't very sentient beings. They respond to very basic stimuli, just like every other plant

>>714993004
Das it mane. We cant deny how fucking good meat tastes, but if we stick to it as strictly as we can we're at least doing something.

You're doing good hombre

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>>714975712
vegans = grass eaters

>>714993144
Those animals hunted their prey themselves with their own biological tools. If we did the same it'd be fine

>>714993068
your point?
every living creature on this planet responds to stimuli whether you realize it or not the same goes for human beings.

why do they need to eat animals though?

STFU AND READ THIS BEFORE EVER POSTING IN VEGAN THREADS:
http://www.worldwatch.org/files/pdf/Livestock%20and%20Climate%20Change.pdf

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>>714977826
why vegans are always the nazis of food
let ppl eat the hell they want

but i think vegans are more like the islam of food

>>714993227

your standards are artificial as fuck and you are stupid lol

>prey are herbivores

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>>714993416
Whats wrong with being a nazi?

>>714993429
What the fuck does that even mean?

Godamn this board shits me

>>714993444
trips of truth

>>714993144
Your argument? Animals (barring humans) are cognitively incapable of doing otherwise. That's why they get to do that. Ethics needs choice

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>>714979061
so muslims & other religions think they have the 'real' true, so like vegans
what's about that fucklogic

>>714993335
>>714993335
>>714993335
yes

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>>714981763
vegans are just the islam/feminazism of food
if u don't think like they want then in their lil mind they think u are against them

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More Vegans so more Meat for ME

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>>714994003
i dont care about these niggers