Hey /b/ do you have aney experience dealing with stretch marks?

Cocoa Butter on Pink/Red Ones.
White ones? Your fucked, wait years for fading.

source: ex fat piece of shit

should have thought of that before u decided to be fat

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>>714563510
Really? Why are white ones so bad?

>>714563510
I'm pale as fuck so if they are white they almost doesn't show, but it would be nice if the read ones got a little bit better until summer...

>>714563340
No your going to be a fat bodied piece of shit your whole life. Probably should just anhero

>>714563340
be happy with your body, even though it sucks. some old guy will still ass rape you.

>>714563728
They're literal scars at that point.

>>714563340
Yup , had them since I was 15 (19 now) on my lower back and ass cheeks . ( you don't want pic , I am a dude. Or maybe you do , I'm not judging)
They do start to be less obvious but then they become more prominent for no apparent reason again.
BTW white stretch marks are usually the red ones after some time passed

>>714563728
they are not that bad, if you are pale tey dont show that well. but they newer realy go away.

>>714563340

Sage advice from a fatty who's body is covered in stretch marks from weight gain and gym gains. Deal with them NOW yours aren't bad yet. Go on a diet and they will fade and likely not be noticeable. Do it NOW. If you get any fatter you will have permanent damage

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>>714563340

Your problem: meat, dairy, eggs, and cooking oils. Too much fat, saturated fat, and cholesterol.

Solution: go vegan.

>pic related

Fat, nasty sack of dead animal fats. Disgusting. Bet your balls and ass stink bad.

/thread

sage

>>714563901
I'm on a diet for the 7th month now, lost ower 11kg! trying to workl out as mutch as i bother.

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>>714564034
this! /thread

>>714564034
I got nothing better to do, No meats for me until next summer. (Ignoring cristmas food)

>>714564124

Haha good job I'd give a lot to go back in time and stop that shit before it got bad. They do fade enough so you can't really see them if you intervene early enough. Yours will def fade

>>714563340
Not much you can do and the few things you can do will not get rid of them. They will just minimize it some but they are there to stay.

Cocoa butter is your best opinion
Also can use vitamin e oil mixed in which is also suppose to help.

Either way it will take a long while to see any effects

I've heard that Retin-A or aloe vera can help improve the appearance of stretch marks, but they're not a cure-all.

To be blunt, stretch marks will never go away unless you can afford a fancy laser treatment to greatly reduce them.

They will fade to an extent naturally over time to the white ones mentioned.

I have stretch marks going all around my waist, thighs, stomach, and arms. Eventually you'll just have to accept that they will never go away. For me, I'm using them to remind me never to go back to my bad eating habits ever again. 75lbs down, 75 more to go!

>>714564927
thanks for the encuragement anon!
how long since you realized you were fucked?

>>714564285
>>714564034
>>714564745
Same fag!

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>>714564034
morbidly obese vegan here (not OP) i'm addicted to processed fruits and nuts and eat basically no vegetables

don't get me wrong, fatties like myself are disgusting

but you basically got no excuse for feeling all superior to us

at least not in a moral sense

i freely concede you likely have more willpower than i do

but get off your high horse and don't go around thinking you're also automatically a better person (in the sense of being less culpable for animal suffering and environmental decline)

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>>714565307
-2/10 for effort

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>>714565293
yea I know, don't you just hate it?

>>714565436
this isn't bait

i'm telling the truth you retard

being fat is about calories in versus calories out. fruit and nuts are calorie dense, food addiction is a real thing, and so is depression

>>714565448
Faggot!

>>714563340
Snail slime should be helping i read...

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>>714565636
>this isn't bait

Sure thing, buddy.

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

Vegans on average are the only group of people that have the ideal BMI.
>pic related

The fat you eat, i.e, meat, dairy, and eggs, is that you will wear.

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OK here is the plan it takes about 3 months:

Got to a psychiatrist tell him about that you always react on everything and make up some situations.
Get some test for ADHD/ADD and some tests for autism.
You need to get autism negative and ADHD/ADD positive.

after that pickup free adderal

take adderal and hit the gym like a hyped faggot.

>>714563797
fuuuck no way

>>714565810
wtf I think I wil just stick to dieting.

>>714565951
>Vegans on average are the only group of people that have the ideal BMI.
sure i don't deny that

but let me see the data saying people with the ideal BMI are on average the only group of people who are vegan

because i'm vegan and morbidly obese which is not an ideal BMI

>The fat you eat, i.e, meat, dairy, and eggs, is that you will wear.
my fat comes from nuts

>>714565993
Already on adderal for as a ADD treatment my friend xD

>>714565250

I wouldn't even bother thinking like that. I'd just get on it. You will have little lines where they are but again they'll be barely visible. Just do it. Do not wait.

>>714566055
u just have to put it on ur body and its mixed with some creme stuff so no worries...

Red bull contains bull sperm but its not like u drink bull sperm lol

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>>714565307
>claims to be vegan
>smashes in burgers and KFC behind the scenes

>>714565993
>>714565993

exacly this! I have done this aswell and lost a fuckton weight.

get buff like a gorilla

>>714566279
uh no

being vegan means you don't eat meat

(or animal products which i also don't eat)

i simply consume an entirely absurd amount of fruit and nuts

i'm an addict you see

>>714566231
Tell your faggot psychiatrist you need higher doisis and take double and hit the gym

>>714566153
>because i'm vegan and morbidly obese which is not an ideal BMI

Improbable. Never met a a long term fat vegan. If you do, they are lying.

>my fat comes from nuts

Plant sources of fat such as nuts, avocados, etc do not cause weight gain like meat, dairy, and eggs.

>>714566262
I don't drink redbull but I get your pint, might try it if it's not too expensive

>>714566367
Lies.

>>714566279
this

>>714566443
You're a fucking moron. All sources of calories cause weight gain, doesn't matter at all if it's from plants.

>>714566443
>Improbable. Never met a a long term fat vegan. If you do, they are lying.
i'm an INTP with an IQ of 138 and diagnosed celiac disease
i'm improbable in a lot of ways

>Plant sources of fat such as nuts, avocados, etc do not cause weight gain like meat, dairy, and eggs.
they do in sufficient amounts

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>>714563340
just grow some hair you faggot.
pic unrelated

>>714566484
no they ain't

>>714566403
Sounds funn. Might actually legit try this!
I'm already prescribed more than I use, used to sell a bit when i went to college.

>>714566656
so close...

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>>714566648
Again, see >>714565951

I know vegans that smash in 3 to 4 thousand calories a day. With the exception of a little water weight, no fat gained, because plants do not contain high amounts of fat that animal products do.

>You're a fucking moron.

The irony.

>>714563510
>Cocoa Butter on Pink/Red Ones.
>White ones? Your fucked,
Wh-what about purple ones??

>>714566927
purple ones are basically red ones for pale fags. (op)

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>>714566829

>>714566829
Legit retarded tbh fam. If you burn less calories than you consume you gain the remainder in body fat. Kill yourself moron.

>>714563340
this may sound wierd, but it dosent matter all that much. I, and a lot of my friends prefer/like sorta big guys like you and stretchmarks are usually a part of the deal. <You might not see your body in porn or magazines, but a couple of people are into it, not just old creepy men.

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>>714566656
>i'm an INTP with an IQ of 138 and diagnosed celiac disease

Irrelevant. Flawed fallacy argument.

>they do in sufficient amounts

Wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRxMhqdmb2Y

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18042516

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21216574

Alper CM, Mattes RD. Effects of chronic peanut consumption on energy balance and hedonics. Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 2002 Aug;26(8):1129-37.

Sabaté J, Cordero-Macintyre Z, Siapco G, Torabian S, Haddad E. Does regular walnut consumption lead to weight gain? Br J Nutr. 2005 Nov;94(5):859-64.

Fraser GE, Bennett HW, Jaceldo KB, Sabaté J. Effect on body weight of a free 76 Kilojoule (320 calorie) daily supplement of almonds for six months. J Am Coll Nutr. 2002 Jun;21(3):275-83.

Almario RU, Vonghavaravat V, Wong R, Kasim-Karakas SE. Effects of walnut consumption on plasma fatty acids and lipoproteins in combined hyperlipidemia. Am J Clin Nutr. 2001 Jul;74(1):72-9.

Lovejoy JC, Most MM, Lefevre M, Greenway FL, Rood JC. Effect of diets enriched in almonds on insulin action and serum lipids in adults with normal glucose tolerance or type 2 diabetes. Am J Clin Nutr. 2002 Nov;76(5):1000-6.

Morgan WA, Clayshulte BJ. Pecans lower low-density lipoprotein cholesterol in people with normal lipid levels. J Am Diet Assoc. 2000 Mar;100(3):312-8.

Garg ML, Blake RJ, Wills RB. Macadamia nut consumption lowers plasma total and LDL cholesterol levels in hypercholesterolemic men. J Nutr. 2003 Apr;133(4):1060-3

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>>714567135

If you eat meat, dairy, and eggs, which contain a lot of fat, yes, you must watch your caloric intake. On a vegan diet, on the other hand, no, you don't. Moron.

>>714567319
You're wrong, and mentally retarded. So of course you'll make retarded posts. Have fun being wrong and retarded m8.

>>714563340
new skin will grow. Bee patient

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>>714567077

Again, that's a different type of fat. See >>714567167

Not the same type of fats you find in animal products. Nice try, but a fail nonetheless.

>>714567153
hey man trust me, most women like men that is a bit on the larger side.but I'm 196cm tall and 113 kg. I'm a fucking bear.

>>714563340
I started getting them at 14, I'm 20 now and only some of them have faded. They're really visible on my shoulders, The ones on my stomach faded pretty quickly, but I'm assuming its because they were caused by an increase in height rather than weight, since I'm not really fat.

I'd go for what
>>714563510
This anon said. I've been putting it on my shoulders and it's working pretty well.

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>>714567392

>>714567553
>I know enough vegans who are overweight or fat.

KEK

Either they just started, they still have a lot of weight to lose, and/or they are claiming vegan while eating McDonald's.

>>714567491
How tall are you? How much do you weigh?

>>714567553
this is b8

>>714567692
Or retards like you are saying "If you don't eat any fat or animal products you can eat whatever you want!"

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Can i ever get rid of these? They are deeply indented. At the joint of pubic area and legs.

I got them at age 14 because I got fat fast (world of warcraft) and then I lost weight in the gym and gained muscle so no loose skin and the stretch marks are barely visible anymore because they shrink and turn white

good luck

>>714567553
>nuts are vegan
>eat enough of the mentioned above and you'll be fat very soon

See >>714567167

Hundreds of studies – not something just pulled out of your ass (like you do) –contradicts you.

Oh, and, uh, pure sugar contains 0% fat.

Everything you state henceforth is not even worthy of a read.

>>714567700
6'3 and 170lbs

>>714567167
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18042516
>The findings show that the role of nut consumption in body weight management is varied. Nuts, when included as part of an energy-controlled diet, were found in some instances to assist with weight loss. However, when nuts were added to an existing diet without controlling for energy intake, body weight increased, although to a lesser extent than theoretically predicted.

regardless, no studies you link regarding the general population are relevant, because i am not the general population, i am an individual. i don't care how low the probability is that i am a morbidly obese vegan who stays this fat off of nuts, it's not 0%, and not only does that mean it's possible, i know for a fact that it's true, because i am me.

>>714567756
>Or retards like you are saying

Never said that XD

>>714567692
>McDonalds in Austria has veggie burgers
your argument is invaild
>McDonalds pretty much everywhere has salads with dressings that have a calorie count that go through the roof
your argument is invalid

>>714567902
Carbs are 4 calories per gram
Protein is 4 calories per gram
Fat is 9 calories per gram

1 pound of fat is ~3500 caolories

Kill yourself.

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>>714567491
I'm larg, but i do a lot of wirk so i got marks on my uper arms to and they dont really show.
>Pic related my arm

>>714567931
>arguing with scholarly grade studies

KEK

Keep lying to everyone, fake vegan.

>>714567929
Are you taller compared to most of your relatives?
Do you have bad eyesight?
Do you have any skeletal abnormalities?
Any early deaths in your family?

Anything or more of these?

I, AM, A, MORBIDLY, OBESE, VEGAN.

I REALIZE THIS IS VERY IMPROBABLE. HOWEVER, IT IS TRUE.

STATISTICALLY, YOU'RE RIGHT NOT TO BELIEVE ME. HOWEVER, SOCIALLY, IT'S VERY RUDE OF YOU, AND UNCALLED FOR, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR MOTIVATION COULD BE.

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Vegans ITT: 100/100

Non-vegans ITT: -2/100

Vegans won the debate.

/thread

sage

I'm out. Stay fat, fatties.

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>>714567902
>Hundreds of studies
Not a single one claims vegans can't be fat
>pure sugar contains 0% fat
Are you dense? What has this to do with anything? You don't need a single gram of fat in your diet to get fat. You obviously don't know what you are talking about.

>>714567986
>>714568010
>spotted the mentally inept retard

>>714564034
If veganism is so "natural" then why do vegans need to supplement vitamin B to not die?

>>714563340
The sooner you treat them the greater chance they fade. It's better to treat your skin before they happen but you can still reduce them.

>>714568276
I didn't know you had a mirror next to your monitor anon.

>>714568226
>hide your post
>didn't read

Everything you state henceforth is not even worthy of a read.

I win; you lose. K? K. KEK. OMG 360 no scope you ass bitch.

>>714568219
See >>714568280

>>714563340
S is that you?

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>>714568328
yawn/10

>>714568117
I'm taller than nearly everyone in my family, aside from 2 of my uncles and my father, who are about the same height as me. I wear glasses, but I can't correctly remember my prescription, it's been a while. None that I'm aware of. The oldest people in my family have lived to be around 90, even while fighting cancer, and as far as I know, nobody has died any earlier than that.

Can I ask why?

>>714568423
no shit it's me. why post someone else?

>>714568280
>>714568415

It's 2016 – almost 2017. That myth has been long debunked. Get with the times by educating yourself.

>>714568011
Mine are all on the tops of my shoulders and kinda down my back. On the right side I've got a few like that though.

>>714563340
No I'm not a fat beta loser. I actually lift weights not food 24/7.

>>714568219
>>714568541
see: >>714568158

>>714568519
... retard I asked if you were someone I know
Didnt you see the big S !S! read retard

>>714568656
see
>>714568656

>>714568708
na sorry not a S in my entire name.

>>714568772
wat

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>>714568575

>>714568567
I don't really care all about my looks so they don't really bother me that much, but it would be nice if they weren't there of course :)

>>714568541
Debunked by what studies exactly? An article on a pro-veganism site doesn't count a credible source.

Vegans are so delusional thinking that it is the undisputed best diet.

It's not. Every vegan has to supplement on top of their diet to prevent themselves from being deficient in certain vitamins and nutrients.

The only one reason to go vegan is a by making a moral choice in regards to animal products. And even that is questionable in some cases.

I see a lot of diet debate going on but really the best diet is the one that is easiest to stick to long term. For me eating less carbs and more protein, fats and veggies really worked and was easy to maintain. Carbs make you hungry forever. The idea that fat is had for you is kind of old knowledge. Low carb diets really work and again, are easier to stay on.

>>714568973
saved. filename: typical vegan shitposter on /b/

>>714568476
Stretchmarks or striae are usually caused by increased strain on the skin like weight gain, weightlifting, pregnancy etc.
However, they can also be a sign of weak connective tissue. Which is why women have them more often as they tend to have weaker connective tissue compared to men.
Sometimes they are caused by genetic disorders like Marfan syndrome, which is very, very rare if the parents don't have it.
You probably just have shitty connective tissue.

>>714569137
>I see a lot of diet debate going on but really the best diet is the one that is easiest to stick to long term.

I can stay on a diet of KFC and fried chicken longterm. Based on your logic, I'm good to go.

>>714569030
>being this stupid
>in 2016

>>714569394
If you eat less calories than you burn yeah. You'll probably end up feeling like shit and have a lack of nutrition/vitamins, but if you're talking pure fat loss go ahead.

>>714569481

You proved yourself to be an utter dumb ass.

>>714569394
>KFC diet
I guess somone is bulking

>>714569559
No I didn't moron.

you fat fuck

>>714569438
Thanks for providing a good counter argument anon. You are real smart!

>>714569695
When you're that stupid, there's no point.

>>714569603
Fucking bulking on kfc....

>>714569868
Your nutrition deficiency is showing.

post more of your torso OP

>>714570036
does this turn you on anon?

Lost weight and got skin hanging around.
How do you guys fix this?

>>714570182
If it's bad, you don't. Unless you get surgery.

>>714570182
you will neas surgery if its realy bad

>>714570182
Weightlifting help fill the frame. Skin is strechy, it will strech back eventually.

Unless it's really bad, then surgery is required.

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I am a morbidly obese vegan. I understand this is improbable but sometimes the truth is improbable so please respect that I am this way even though it is unusual.

>>714570182
define
>lot

>>714563340
Get Fit. they fade out.Learn to live with it.

If you find tghe right on she wont care.

I had worse.

>>714570233
>>714570275
>>714570322
>>714570549


Lost about 30 lbs + gyno
>Look like Dr. Zoidberg

>>714569394

Long term while still losing wight you obtuse moron.

>>714570646
surgery for shure.. sorry my man

>>714570646
wait a few months, do some workout and see how much it gets better, you might get used to it. Might need some surgery though.

>>714563340

Stretchmark expert here, new stretchmark is red/pink, while they are still under stress(stretching) they will stay like this.
When you stop gaining weight, or even start losing it, the stress that caused the stretchmark is gone and it'll start fading into a whitish tone which is much less visible, but nothing bar something like laser surgery gets it less visible than that.
To make them white you must never be as fat again as when you were when you got them, its literally your skin developing a small crack to stretch out, because its natural ability to stretch over the growing you cannot keep up with how fat you are growing, once it happenes, your skin is "ripped", and will stay ripped, but won't be 'raw' anymore.

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>>714571495
>>714571575
>>714571528
sweeet. I love fatties.

>>714570646

Thats not much, how much skin are we talking?
I went from 105kg to 65kg, 28male, and maybe the skin on my abs is not as tight as it could be, but it looks normal.

>>714564034
>meat, dairy, eggs, and cooking oils. Too much fat, saturated fat, and cholesterol.

That's absolute bullshit. OP's problem is too much sugar/carbs

>>714571693
65kg? How tall are you?

>>714571808
188, I'm back up to 68, skinny love

>>714565636
>being fat is about calories in versus calories out

Are they still teaching this shit in schools?

Weight is about many things. Even the bacteria in your gut have a say. Also, it's the type of stuff you eat. Too much carbs etc.

>>714563340
one word:

Bio Oil.

Its a fucking game changer. I only wish I had known about it WHEN the stretch marks had actually happened but I'm using it 2-3 years after the fact and they've basically disappeared. You have to put it on the marks 2-5x daily for at least 3 months but I've only been doing it for 3 weeks and theyre basically gone.

pro-tip: I've also been using it on my face to deal with my acne scars and those have vanished too. They work on ALL types of scars. I wish I could fucking bathe in this shit.

>>714565307
Your problem is carbs and sugar.

>>714563340
Are you pregnant?

>>714563340

Get in the fucking gym.

You look like you might have cushing's syndrome.

http://pituitary.ucla.edu/cushings-disease

>>714571968

Yes, in physics class, about how energy cannot come from nothing, remember that?

Because that is what it comes down to, you body uses a certain amount of energy, if you don't get that amount each day from what you consume, you'll start using up your reserves, this is absolute fact, the things you talk about might affect the characteristics of the weight loss, but if there is not enough coming in, then you lose weight.

>>714571904
That's not skinny, that's an eating disorder. I'm 180cm and my ideal weight would be at 70-72kg. Currently at 77.x Kilos.

>tfw skinny but with stretch marks on my ass and knees

Can growth cause stretch marks?

>>714571989
That's 2 words

>>714571989

How old are you?

I used the thing for a few months, though only twice a day, did nothing for me, though I was using it on old ones
Also god damn that shitty oily feeling it gives you.

>>714572129
na does not describe me at all, I gained weight fast and they apeared.

>>714571693
Damn bro, congrats
I'm:
100 to 85kgs
190 cms
male 26
gyno is the most noticeable, had moobs since my teens and I was 75 kgs aprox

>>714565307
>vegan
>eat basically no vegetables
then you're doing it wrong.

also, its possible to eat junk food even as a vegetarian/vegan/ponykin. balance in all things.

>>714571410
Too much time on your hands, retard.

>>714572258
yes, budy of mine is 2,10 tal and skinny as fuck.
stretch marks al ower his back.

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>>714572278

>>714571989
Bio Oil is bullshit.

Olive oil will have the same effect.

>>714572423
I'm glad I'm quite pale and got hairy legs

>>714572174

Nah, it is just skinny, I can gain weight or lose it as I want to, but as I'm currently not really working out enough to build muscle, there would be no point in gaining anything in fat.

>>714572350
what does gyno stand for?

>>714572330
Yeah that oily feeling kind of sucks but you can also mix it into conditioners, lotions, creams, etc. I just love it, I can't get enough of it.

I'm 26 but I'm working on marks that are all different ages. The ones on my chest are from when I was in maybe...6th grade? (puberty). The ones on my belly and hips are from 3-4 years ago (weight gain), and the ones on my hips are from 07-08? Point is they're all white marks, all of them are faded. But I'm telling you, they're basically gone. You won't be able to get rid of the indentations but they're faded as shit. And my acne scars are from 6th grade too. They're ALL faded after 3 weeks. I'm gonna keep going but you have to be religious with it. You can't skip, gotta do it everyday.

>>714572350

Thanks, is it very bad?
You'll be happy to know my gyno which was only slight had disappeared, leaving only puffy nipples in its wake.

>>714572167
The human body is not like a fucking petrol powered lawnmower.

It's possible to eat an excess of calories and maintain a healthy weight, or eat fewer and still put on weight.

Illness, medication, amount of sleep, gut bacteria, vitamin intake etc. can all affect weight.

>>714572697

Thats reassuring as my story sounds the same about them, but 5 times a day?
Fuck thats a lot of oily feeling, also the thing is actually expensive as fuck here for a lotion - especially five times a day, where do you get yours if not locally?

>>714563340
stretch marks are just that - your skin [over] stretching. even muscular guys have them. vitamin E supplements and ointments. have fun.

how to lose weight.
1. eat old expiered food
2. get diarea
3. profit.
4. repeat

>>714572631
gynecomastia

>>714572698
Moderate I guess, but has fucked my head all my life.

I'm glad for you bro, did you see an endocrinologist or took any precautions?

>>714572731
To some extent you are right. We can not convert 100% of the energy we take in, so depending on what we eat, how, and many other factors it's possible to lose weight even when you intake more calories than you burn. But as a general rule of thumb "less intake than what you burn" holds true.

>>714572469
>olive oil would have the same effect
except it didn't, because its a pinterest level DIY that everyone tried BEFORE hopping on the bio-oil bandwagon. might as well tell OP to mix baking soda and bleach together and use that as a digestive aid.

>>714572731

No, it is exactly like it at its core.
Yes there are degrees, and other circumstances that can affect that, but at the two ends, theres either enough or not, again.

ENERGY MUST COME FROM SOMEWHERE, do you understand?

>>714563340
Stop over eating you fat fuck.

>>714573065
>gynecomastia
Thanks, luckily I don't have it.

>>714563340
I got a few of them when I was around 15, I wasn't fat, I think I just grew too fast, or maybe I was just naturally prone to them. I dunno.
Anyway, I'm 22 now and they're pretty much invisible. Just tolerate them for several years and they'll probably fade, it's really no big deal.

>>714572873
You can get it at Walmart. I only say that 5x daily thing because that's the most hardcore application schedule I've seen with this stuff. Celebrities use this shit too, and they swear by it just as much as I do. Its just fucking fantastic. I've been so insecure about these scars for years if not decades and I've never felt better. But I'm getting away with murder just with 2x daily. It is pretty expensive but to me, the investment is totally worth it. One 2oz bottle has lasted me this long and I'm only halfway through. That was like $6. The 6oz costs $10 but you can use this for all sorts of things. I like putting it on my lips tbh. So soft.

>>714573065
>Moderate I guess, but has fucked my head all my life.

Tell me about it, 28 and my bodily insecurities have basically ruined my life up to now, and I'm only fixing the remains.

Nope, haven't seen a doctor with it since it wasn't that severe, hope you get likewise results, with all the fat gone from it it really blended into my chest, I imagine if I had some proper pecs really only the nips would remain.

>>714573442

Yeah thats way cheaper compared to here, I was hoping on it but really seen zero results in the months I've used it, I still have a little bit left actually.

Well thanks bro, maybe I'll give it another go.

>>714573092
Yes, but if you're just eating stodgy carbs, weight loss if going to be difficult no matter what you do.

>>714573657
Is it really so much more expensive? You could also try Amazon. I see these prices listed there as well but then you have to deal with shipping costs. I hope you can find a way to make it work for you. Take care.

>>714573215
You're simplifying too much. There are complex biological processes going on.

>>714573843

the default bottle is $30, and believe me our paychecks are worlds apart too, this is not an everyday product in shitty 3rd world

>>714573917

Because no complex biological process can overwrite the laws of physics anon, none of them, not one, please understand already.

>>714569212
My gp told me it was most likely caused by me getting taller so quickly during puberty. /:

>>714574063
You're saying energy in vs energy out, but it's not that simple.

Let's look at a car. The type of fuel, shape of the car, weight of the car, whether a window is open, if the ac is on, or even the fucking radio as affects how many mpgs it gets.

Now compare those variables to the almost endless number in the human body.

>>714568992
I feel you. I'm not self conscious about them or anything, but yeah it'd be cool if they weren't there. It was weird going through highschool with them though. I remember changing in the locker room during gym in my freshman year, and a rumor started that I got mauled by a tiger. Kids are dumb man. I honestly had never noticed them until someone pointed them out though.

>>714574547

yes, and now check all those variables and realize THAT IF THE TANK IS EMPTY, THE CAR WONT RUN

And if we take those variables and the endless number of them in the human body, then you should realize THAT IF THE TANK IS EMPTY, THIS "CAR" CANNIBALIZES ITS OWN BODY BECAUSE IT IS ALIVE AND WANTS TO STAY THAT WAY

You see because just like how the car cannot magically wish gas into its tank, the same way a human cannot biologically get the energy it requires to live - from ingesting nothing.

>>714574682
hahaha the first time my friend saw them they thought it was scratch marks from a woman i had been with, I still got deep scars on my back after her xD

>>714574956
You're missing my point though.

>>714574547
It is quite simple you stupid fat faggot. Eat less than you burn and you lose weigh. If you want to get technical cut out empty ass carbs, eat lean meats and greens at about 1100 calories a day and do some exercise and you'll fucking lose weight. Stupid diabetes clogged up moron.

>>714575133

No, you are missing mine, at the end of the day, losing weight will come down to this, this is fact, the variables mentioned will affects its characteristics, but at the end, this is what it is.

>>714575133
No, he isn't. Its simple shit. To lose weight, you expend more calories than you take in. It's been this way since the dawn of time, for every body type "running" under any condition whatsoever.

There are unique factors to weight loss for each individual but this basic principle is ALWAYS a constant. Personal trainers will tell you that, nutritionists will tell you that, everyone will tell you that. So while your "make and model" might affect HOW you expend more than you take in, you're STILL expending more than you take in because THATS how you lose weight.

>>714575321
I'm not fat, you retard. I'm saying that its possible to eat less than the recommended amount of calories, but not lose weight.

>>714574547 it still works, all the things you listed effect how much energy is being spent. In this same way bodies are different and some use up more energy than others, that's metabolism. You would need to diet appropriately for your metabolism.

>>714575528
its possible. when you ARENT expending more than you take in, you thick faggot.

>>714575368
>To lose weight, you expend more calories than you take in
This has been debukned, you faggot.

It depends on many other things.

For instance, I love a drink. I mean really love a drink, but I drink scotch, not beer. Beer contains loads of carbs whereas scotch does not.

>>714575528

Yes theres a deadzone in the middle, who would've thought.

>>714575779

>debunked the laws of physics

Can you source me?

Your example is retarded, yes you drink scotch for less calories - it still has calories though so if it didn't kill you if you consumed the required amount, it would still make you just as fat as beer can.
Because in the end, you reduce whatever you take in into energy for your body, the quality of what you take in affects the process, but the process is as it was described above, if you use up more than you take in, you lose weight.

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>>714563340
this is my body after i just lost a lot of weight through DNP.

i have a shit ton of stretch marks around the belly area, and on my hips, and underneath my belly are the worst ones. i first saw those at like 14. i was just laying on my bed, playing with my dick, when i noticed a very soft squishy part, and i looked in the mirror and went oh god. how the fuck did i let this happen.

now when i squeeze my belly together, they all make this disgusting ripples. i wish i can get rid of them. they are kinda unnoticeable otherwise. hopefully i can get some money somehow to just get them off

>>714575535
Yes, appropriate to your metabolism

My point was that this can vary greatly from person to person.

I know a guy who pretty much lives off sugar. Seriously, he only drinks energy drinks, eats chocolate and sweets etc. Skinny as a fucking rake.

Does his skin look like shit? Yes. Will he be dead by 50? Probably, but he still looks like a victim of famine.

>>714575779 all alcohol is high in calories.

http://getdrunknotfat.com/

for heavy drinkers there is not much of a choice. Social drinkers wouldn't need to worry.

>>714563340
Non of the girls will care about your stretch marks if you are ribbed. I know how depressing it is, believe me, but you just have to keep on going with the diet and your self-esteem will rise for sure.

I got some scars as well but they are getting way better after I lost 15kgs in 2 months and still going.

>>714575608
Yet again, you're simplifying it. The recommended daily intake is 2000 kcal.

My point was that's it's possible to intake less than the RDI, BUT STILL PUT ON WEIGHT DUE TO VARIABLES.

>>714576311
But calories doesn't = fat

>>714576111
nice trips and congrats on the weight loss!
They will probably fix most of it if you get a skin tightening surgery.

>>714575779
>this has been debunked
I'm sure you'd love to think that. I'm sure you'll link us to all kinds of pseudo-science clickbait websites trying to prove it too. But the fact of the matter is that this is how weight loss has worked for hundreds of years. And people post results of it working ALL over the goddamn place. But you keep telling yourself weight loss is this impossible thing because your body is this super unique snowflake where the laws of physics cease to apply.

>recommended amounts
Where you fuck up is thinking that your body requires the same caloric intake as others. That's the ONLY unique thing about your body. Its OWN caloric needs. But I hate to break it to you. Your body is NOT rewriting the laws of physics here, much to the chagrin of your planet sized ego. You're just doing it wrong.

>>714576097
It's not about calories though, and that's my point.

That's why the atikins diet works.

>>714576613
15KG IN 2 MONTHS??
I lost 11 in 7 months...

>>714576762
Explain the atkins diet.

>>714576786

it is, it is about what you get energy - but in the end its about how much

>>714576762
>Glycaemic index

mates OP out, fucking late here.

>>714576869
>>714576762
>>714575779
not them, but atkins diet is just a bullshit diet stemmed off from ketosis.

this is a basic explanation of how you lose weight.


Calories in, calories out.

Carbohydrates are burned first, then fat.

Go low carb. Burn fat all the time. Constantly burn calories.

But the basic rule still applies, cals in and out.

So everyone here is all wrong, and all dumb

>>714576821
Yeh mate, I just swam a lot in the summer and left all the sugar drinks.

I basicly didn't even eat that healthy, I mean I just love a good food. All you need to do is to exercise enough. Best and the most fluent way to exercise is probably swimming, riding a bike or simply walking to the store every time. Just pour all the sugary drinks down the drain and hit the streets.

>>714577130
But this was my point
>>714576165

>>714577130
Who the fuck got the motivation if you have to count every single calorie you take. Jesus christ and the ballfairymary.

Just exercise enough and you will lose a lot of weight no matter what you eat. As long as you don't eat burgers daily.

>>714577554
>Just exercise enough and you will lose a lot of weight no matter what you eat.

That's fucking bullshit of the highest order.

>>714577554
if you aint got the motivation to do simple math then i doubt you can exercise off all of the bullshit you eat the same day

>>714577309
I lost my driver's license so I walk or ride bike wherever I go.
I don't eat healthy at all though...

Some are caused by excess cortisol in cushings syndrome.

>>714577653
No, you complete missed my point there.

You don't need to change your diet if you eat normal food anyways. It's different if you are hamming those burgers daily.

>>714578147
>>Just exercise enough and you will lose a lot of weight no matter what you eat.

I don't think I did miss your point. What you said seemed perfectly clear.

YOU CANNOT OUTRAIN A BAD DIET.

>>714563510
you're*

>>714578341
Why you have to be such an edgy faggot.

Eat normal food and exercise enough, simple.

>>714578147
burgers aren't unhealthy. they have zero carbs. they are about 200 to 350 calories each patty. you can eat those everyday, once or twice a day and still lose weight. how many calories do you think you need everyday? 500?

if you think you're eating "normal" food, whatever the fuck that means, then you are most likely putting on extra calories without realizing it.

>>714578534
>Why you have to be such an edgy faggot.

Nothing I said was edgy. I just proved you wrong and you sperg out.

>>714576869
Ketogenesis. You stop eating carbs, and your body burns the high sugar content of your food instead. I'm not surprised you didn't know about that because CLEARLY you haven't researched ANY diets whatsoever. But your body isn't losing weight on its own. Its just switching fuel types. You switch a car from regular to premium, the car is still functioning in exactly the same manner as before. Its just burning through the new fuel type faster than the old one.

>>714578601
The buns are unhealthy though.

>>714578754
yes, i meant just the pattys are healthy to eat

>>714578710
You're fucking retarded. You just explained the point I was making.

>>714578754
yeah but the buns are where the carbs are. if you eat just a burger patty, its protein.

>>714578862
No, I just proved my own fucking point. You need to read more.
>you switch fuel types
>the car is still functioning in exactly the same manner as before
Meaning you still need to eat less than you burn, you're just eating less SUGAR content rather than CARB content. This really is a simple fucking concept.

>>714579002
It's like arguing with rain man.

>>714579206
I know, I can't believe I'm still here trying. I'm not even the only one saying this, that's the hilarious part. Every PROFESSIONAL (yknow, the people who get PAID to know about this shit) agrees with me. You're the ONLY one who doesn't seem to be with the program, anon. I've never heard anyone sperg this badly about something EVERYONE accepts as scientific fact, even the people we pay to research this for us.

Its statistically impossible for the entire weight loss world, and medical world, to be wrong while YOU anon anonson from whereversville are the ONLY one who's right. You clearly don't even have a college level education. Next time, read up on a subject before you pretend like you know everything about it. Its been swell, be sure to kill yourself before you pollute the gene pool with your autism.

>>714579666
>EVERYONE accepts as scientific fact,
But you're talking nonsense.

You're hanging onto shit you learned years ago, and refuse to accept change.

>>714563340
coco butter

>tfw vegans are fucking retarded ITT
I'm dieting on fucking freezer Taquitos and if I properly stick to it, am losing ~2 lbs a week. It's literally calories in VS calories burned. Eat the biggest bag of dicks.

>>714579666
You're a fucking halfwit. My whole point is that weight loss isn't as simple as calories in vs calories out.

Fucking christ stretch marks are the least of your problems, lose some fucking weight first fatty, then worry about stretch marks.

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I have stretch marks from like 7 years ago....they NEVER go away im pretty sure. Get used to ot because u fucked yourself over getting too fat to quick. The best thing u can do is grow hair and pretend they don't exist i guess

>>714579666
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=is+weight+loss+as+simple+as+calories

>>714580750
See:
>>714580581
It really is that simple. I'm living proof. Any further questions?

>>714581027
That proves absolutely fuck all, you silly cunt.

>>714563340
nobody gives a fuck about your stretch marks. they gives a fuck about that sloppy preggo stomach.

My wife of 12 years has more stretch marks than you, honestly it doesn't make the slightest difference to me, I'm still attracted to her. She's quite insecure about her body though, it's a shame really. Just one of thoughs things. they probably matter to you more than they matters to anyone else. Don't worry about it. Having a loving heart is much more attractive and valuable than a super sexxy body. It's all the same in the end

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>>714571495
>>714571528
>>714571575

Well dairy IS designed to make a calf turn into a one ton massive mammal. It's doing its job

>>714581317
>freezer taquitos aren't nutritional in the sightest
>full of fats (previous weight argument
>I'm basically stagnant, sit in my room all day
>consistently losing weight on just a calorie deficit
>only taking supplements for digestion (probiotics and fiber)
Ok, then. You believe what you will. Fat requires <x> calories consumed per pound. If you don't literally starve yourself and eat fewer calories than upkeep costs of your body, you will lose fat and weight.

>>714582023
Firstly, I've only got to take your word for it
Secondly, fats, aren't bad (saturated fats are.)
Thirdly, if that's really your diet, enjoy your early death.

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Too late..YOU should have thought about all those fat fuckers you used to laugh at, before you went and ate all the fucking pies!!

>>714582023
>freezer taquitos

If we took 1m people, and all put them on your diet. Would they all lose weight at the same rate as you? Would some stay stable?Would some put weight on?

>>714582456
Yeah, you have to take my word for my diet, but I can show you a graph of my weight loss, if that would help.
I was referring to the earlier argument of "fat causes weight, not calories". Imagine eating saturated fat and losing weight purely BECAUSE of a calorie deficit.
I mean, I wasn't not eating shitty foods before. That's how I got to 300 lbs. I'm depressed anyways. Don't really care enough about myself to change my shitty behavior. I wanted to try that as an experiment, since I don't care about myself.

>>714583016
My specific diet down to the precise amounts? Fuck no. BMR varies from person to person. From what I've seen, a deficit of ~25% BMR causes ~2 lbs of weight loss a week on average. The choice of Taquitos specifically are because they're cheap (~$5 for 2 and change days worth of food) and because I'm depressed and can't always get myself to make food. Throwing something in the microwave for a minute is on average do-able as long as I like what it is.
To answer your question, I do believe that if you get to about 75% BMR as your intake, you will lose weight unless that amount would cause your body to starve.

>>714571802
/thread right here, give this man a pussy