Daily Reminder Not your body, not your choice.

Ok but im a dude

>>714455652
Baby's body that you have full control over that is.

>>714455865
What

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>>714455652
YUM I LOVE ME SOME DEAD BABIES!! FUCK OFF OP

When the baby is born, i willl decide what clothes it wears right? Because its not capable of making a decision.

Get the vacuum ready, nurse.

>>714455652
shut up conservafag, go get an education

>>714455914
Trump is president.

If you want an abortion it will be with a coathanger and there damn sure wont be any nurses around.

You see the little cord thingy between baby and mommy? Yeah without that, there is no baby. Guess who feeds the baby through that cord? I'll let you guess ;)

>>714455914
Go kill retarded people then because they arent capable

And braindead people in hospitals, coma patients

See if you get charged with murder

>>714455652
somebody get that parasite out of her before it can survive on its own... who knows what it will do once it's independent of its host

>>714455652
it takes two people to make a baby you know. so it takes two people to make that choice.

Having abortion now. Brb

>>714455652
Your mom made the wrong choice

>>714455652
According to your picture the baby is a parasite and can be removed.

>>714455652
In the local news they where talking about a dude that killed his pregnant girlfriend last year and they just convicted him of two murder charges one for the girl and one for the unborn child.

This is a bait thread, so I'm already an idiot, but:

That image isn't an argument, it's a premise, and it's a premise that pro-choicers argue against. It won't persuade anyone who doesn't already agree with it, because all it's doing is restating one of the two possible positions between which the debate takes place (the other being that the property of 'owning' something is a property of a human individual, and a foetus is not a human individual and therefore can no more own the matter it's composed of than a stomach can own itself)

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>tfw too intelligent to support abortion

>>714455652
If you don't want to get aborted, press one. If you need service in other language, press two. If you wish to be aborted, do nothing.

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>>714455652

Well then, I guess that baby needs to get a fucking job, then. I'm not feeding a freeloading parasite.

>>714455652
OP I'm with you..

>>714456052
Well it would be a doctor doing pulling the plug for a brain dead person at the request of the immediate family...just like when the family decides having a baby is a bad idea for a legitimate reason... Rape, incest, or being otherwise incapable of raising a child.

>>714455652
Daily reminder not your species not your choice. Nigger sub human

>>714455652
exactly. not your baby, not your choice.

>>714455652
K, so the fetus can enjoy being it's own body outside the womb. It has no right to be in there.

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>>714455652

>>714456706
/thread

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>>714456395
are you saying, build the wall?

>>714456706
The mother shouldn't have gotten pregnant then.

>>714457136

I'm saying my food, sustenance. I don't spend money on food, wear and tear my teeth, spend energy on my metabolism so that somebody else's body may grow.

>>714455652
this is bait

>>714457295
It doesn't matter how she got pregnant. The fetus has no right to be in there.

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>>714457328
perfect, 88

>>714455652
its long ago i saw one of these.
> Are you still the same autistic faggot from like 2014 ?

Hi libreal fag, soon very soon women won't be allowed to have sex with a 1000s of men cause trumps gonna make birth control illgeal. And then bring back God to schools, Christianity is on the rise.

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>>714457563
No I saw it on pol earlier today and reposted it here because I knew it would be 10/10 bait

>>714457782
cheers

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>>714457136
underrated

>>714457782
Except it's shitty obvious bait and COPYPASTA bullshit so it's more like 6/10

>supporting abortion
How's it feel being a cuck?

>>714455652
Wouldn't it be awesome if there was a fuckable hole in a pregnant belly... You could nut all over the fetus...

>>714455652
Devil's Advocate here: if it's the woman's body, not my choice, then why do I have to pay support for a child born without my consent? If it's "her body" then it's "her responsibility." If it's my responsibility, then her body is at least partially mine. You cannot have it both ways.

>>714457781
How delusional

Thats right goy, let that parasite grow inside you, abortion is murder!

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Fuck u OP shity prolife fag.

>>714455652
I NEED TO FUCK A FETUS!

>>714455652
>Not my choice, not my responsibility.

Daily reminder: women are weak and get special treatment.

Part of their weakness is supreme hedonism. They hate delayed gratification and have no discipline. When they have heavy influence, civilization crumbles. That's why we almost had a communist state.

>>714455652
Ok, wait right here while i go ask the fetus what its choice is.

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>>714455652

While we're at it

>>714455652
>Not your body, not your choice.

tell that to the baby.

>>714460342
>>Not my choice, not my responsibility.
It's your responsibility if you caused it.
It may be inconvenient but you're going to have to assume some obligations here, just like your mother and the man (if known) who got her pregnant.

>>714456027
Or just not be a monster by killing a person.

>>714455652
wat

>>714456052
and liberals

>>714455652
A child is a parasite that can't survive without it's host.

>>714456118
if they stayed apart, unlike her legs, there be no debate

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Daily Reminder that liberals support killing babies but are against the death penalty for criminals.

thank god pence will cure all you faggots

>>714455652
Not you body either, fag, so nothing to do with you.

The fewer humans that are born the better. There's enough of them being churned out all over the world every day anyway. The fraction of a percent that are aborted won't make a shit of difference.

>tfw replied to bait.

>>714461256
Daily reminder republicans hate abortions but hate paying welfare to people who are not ready to have kids.

My thoughts are that the fetus is a human being. It has human cells, it has all its own organs, it has a beating heart, it has its own brain and since it is a human being, it deserves their right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. besides is there really a difference between when the baby comes out of the mother?

>>714461450
I don't think my tax money should go to raising shaneeqas 15 kids from 12 different dads

if you are on welfare and have two or more children you should be sterilized

>>714461645
No fucker fetus is a parasite and can be stopped. We are over populated enough. Are you going to pay welfare checks to a 18 year old???

niggers are eradicating themselves with abortion so it's ok in my books

>>714461736
If you don't want to pay for suankeenas 15 black babies then you should it make of easier for abortions

>>714455652
Then why doesn't it just walk out and survive on its own? O

Oh that's right....

It's a parasite.

>>714457328
You are a parasite whether your just waiting to fucking hear it. if you can't fucking obey Right and choose to act as an oppressor of the age of slim information you're no good then a nazi. bullet to the head is pretty justifiable for the literal filth you spew

evict that fucker then, thats "his" body then he can go live on his own

>>714460724
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ suck it up buttercups

>>714462039
Dude you are so salty your sentences are all fucked up

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>>714460724
liberals will defend killing children but not criminals

>>714456027
>thinking anything will change that can't be fixed

>>714462233
it all just looks like text to me .(

>>714456369
good luck proving the sound mentality that created that stance

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>>714462493
if one more state legislature turns republican then Trump and the republican congress will literally be able to pass constitutional amendments uncontested

>>714462478
Conservatives will defend anti-abortion but not welfare, food stamps, etc/ or minimizing bureaucracy and extensive process involved with adoption.

When the fuck you niggers going to realize a more educated population has less of these problems.

>>714462688
wow I wonder what will happen after dems have them back
25 cent(s)+25cent(s) ≠ 50 cent(x)

>>714460896
That's same as braindead patients. Don't be redundant.

>>714462833
An educated populace has less kids per household, the little red pantied, repubs can't have that.

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>>714455652

bait

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>>714462833
"more educated"

you mean more white

Daily reminder that the immediate abortion of all pregnancies is the only way to solve our problems.
#prodeath #TheRideEndsHere

>>714463100
This wouldn't be an issue if there was compromise, but either side wants it one way or the other. It's fucking retarded. Why not focus on prevention rather than advocating or ban? What's so hard about getting to the underlying issue rather than trying to tackle the end result head on?

>>714463321
you do realize we are an uneducated populace ?
Nothing to be seen here but school wide budget cuts the entire nation over.

>>714456706
Don't want to get pregnant then remove your fucking ovaries/womb.

masturbation is murder
periods are murder
abortions before brain development no different from masturbation or periods.
After brain development its possible to be conscientious (personal experience/first memory) no different than killing a newborn

>>714463696
lol, doctors don't remove womb unless medically needed you dumb cunt

>>714463813
>no different than killing a newborn
Good, I wish I could get 2 abortions.

>>714462478
only viable independent organisms become children, not parasitic ones.

>>714463813
Infants don't begin developing memories until past 2 years of age.

So that means abortions should be okay until the 9th trimester.

>>714457328
then why get pregnant in the first place

>>714455652
governments choice, whore

>>714464416
for the abortions dumbass

>>714455652
Abortions aren't allowed after the first trimester?

>>714464579
no shit

>>714460724
Let everyone in thy house cuz they hathen their lifrths and GOD IS A FUCKING HOMOSEXUAL CHILDREN ABUSER PEDOPHILE SEXIST MISOGYNISTIC PIG...


Plot twist god does not exist.


PS: abortion should be legal.

>>714460724
You have an inalienable right to life and the right to defend your life by whatever means you feel are necessary in the moment.

>>714455652
https://youtu.be/JkbS2Zrcl6g

>>714461736
>I shouldn't have to pay for kids that people aren't ready to have
>Abortion should be illegal.
You are fucking retarded.

>>714461736
What if it was your sister who had 3 kids and just got out of an abusive relationship with some shitlord?

Babies are like illegal immigrants they live of off you and you should be able to kill them.

>>714464340
>Infants don't begin developing memories until past 2 years of age
>Infants
>2 years of age

also citation needed

>>714456287
this.

abortion is just a legal way to murder babies.
of course becasue its a "womans choice"

fuck women. pieces of shit.

>>714455652
i agree, but it does seem pretty unfair though that a life already started doesnt get a chance. ive neverr understood why someone wouldnt just give the little fucker up for adoption.

>>714464701
So this image is inaccurate and we are actually arguing over when life begins and the supreme court already sort of called it at the end of the first trimester?

>>714465092
no, we are having an uncivil conversation about facebook memes man

>>714463032
thats not what that word means you quasar

>>714463210
>Flanders

>>714463696
Don't want to get raped then remove your fucking ovaries/womb you dumb fucking 10 year old

>>714465045
When do you think life begins? Are all sperm protected? Is the end of the first trimester reasonable considering that naturally more than 25% of fetus don't make it that far?

>>714456434
This this this and all of this

Why are people trying to force women to give birth that they never wanted/can not take care of? It's almost like someone punches you in the face and someone else is trying to force you to be happy about it

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>>714462833
>conceding in to a hostage taker

>>714455652
If you had a parasite living in your body and you wanted to get rid of. You wouldn't be screaming you can't touch it is another living thing.

>>714455652
abortion means less niggers in the world

>>714465473
life doesn't begin until the pieces are all put together.

if you got pregnant, deal with it. its not the babies fault you're a ho.

if you were raped then get the morning after pill so there's no chance for the sperm to inseminate the egg.

simple as that. no real reason these days for any one to get an abortion.

>>714465045
They are pieces of shit. That's why you should realize them for what they are--sex objects--and nothing more. You wouldn't hate them if you just used them for sex and nothing more. They view any men who try and do anything else as potential slaves.

>>714459700
Fuck that's a strange spot for the anus.

She really should have something done about that!

>>714465568
no its like getting in the ring with a boxer and expect not to get punched in the face. then when you do, you bitch about it.

>>714465618
Pro lifers and liberals would.

>>Just look at illegal immigrants

>>714465473
>First reproductive single cell appears
> Spits out copies of itself
> changes over time
> one day it finds itself inside a human womb as a sperm cell
>turns itself into stem cell
>stem cell turns into sperm cell
>process continues first life never died.

>>714455652
Yeah, that's right. So, if some wan has a little prick growing inside her, I don't care if it dies. Their life means literally nothing to anybody yet. Their own mother wants it dead, so R.I.P. Lil Nigga

>>714455652
It is funny how women can't grasps the concept that the fetus is another living being until after they poop it out.

Seeing is believing... I guess.

>>714466113
exactly. It's literally a nothing in the minds of anyone. No harm, no foul

>>714463488
No reason to spend all that money if everyone is going to be retarded anyway.

>>714465906
So woman are asking to get raped?

>>714463488
American food is also lacking the proper nutrients that promote brain function. Some scientist theorize that we are devolving, but the reality is that American brains are just starving.

My dog is smarter than a newborn.
Why would killing it be less punishable than the baby?

>>714466692
You shouldn't call your wife a dog, not cool bro!

>>714466654
That's why most americans will have a conversation about hating vegans so much and then immediately talk about needing to eat healthier and never realize what they just did.

>>714455652
She has a right to separate something from her body. Not our fault the little bastard can't hang.

Late term abortions are fucked up though.

>>714455652
There cannot be a body when there never was a person to begin with, unless they're dead, and the baby is not dead.
Therefore, you implicitly acknowledge that the baby is a person, a human being.
Every human being has human rights, and one of those rights is the right to life.
By choosing to abort the baby, they are killing that child, and not simply by depriving him/her of the nutrients and environment of his/her mother; an abortion involves the doctor entering the mother and destroying the baby's brain with a drill and suction, which would be considered cold-blooded murder if this occurred only minutes after birth.

These are my opinions, and these are the reasons I hold those opinions

>inb4 god
I'm an atheist, the claims of the religious hold no meaning to me, unless they are made with the backing of evidence.

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>My body not your choice
If my wife pulled this on me I would leave her and never see her again. I will not be a husband to somebody who thinks it's ok to kill my child. You could not do a more cruel thing to me even if you tried. Destroy my reputation. Take all my money. But don't you dare kill my kid you fucking nigger faggot.

>>714466639
if its a real rape then they should take the morning after pill. do women really not understand where babies come from?

>>714466936
>Late term abortions
those don't exist you mouth breather

>>714455652

A baby is not alive until it can live on its own.


Until then, it's a parasite, by definition.

>>714455652
NO fuck you, it's my right to terminate pregnancy!! Why should I have to raise a kid just because I had sex, fuck you patriarchy my body my choice , a-after making the first choice. I get all the convenient choices I want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ME WANTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>714455652
>implying I care

>>714467161
0/10

>>714467073
Whats the cutoff? I honestly don't know. I'd say "Life" begins when a fetus can reasonably survive outside the womb.

sofia vergaras ex had her eggs that were frozen , be legally represented stating that they have a legal right to life.

fucking eggs.

if eggs can be represented as life, then a fucking fetus growing inside of you is fucking life.


just be honest. you're killing a baby. you just don't want to admit it.

>>714467301
first trimester
it has been for a loooong time my friendo

>>714456434
>>714465568
A family will pull the plug on a braindead patient if theres little to no hope of recovery.

If the doctor said the patient is guaranteed to fully recover in a matter of months, would you feel right pulling the plug?

>>714455652

>2016 not understanding Science or Human Biology.

>2016 Believing in folklore and fairytales.

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>>714467262
OUTTA MY WAY ENTITLEMENT AND IRRESPONSIBILITY COMIN THRU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>714467096
so until 5 -10 years old?

idiot

If Hillary got in, it would have been in the 3rd trimester. TRUMP2016

>>714467348
This.
In many states, if a pregnant woman is assaulted and the child dies in the process, the woman can choose to charge her attacker with murder.
This is women yet again wanting to have their cake and eat it too.

Oh good, more political debates on/b

Just we need.

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>>714455652
There, I fixed that picture for you...

>>714467411
Really fires the neurons

>>714467734
So Hawking should have been aborted if they had known about his condition in the womb?

We should change the abortion procedure to 25 belly flops off a high dive just to fuck with feminists.

>>714467931
I thought he got into an accident.

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>>714467734
>procreation is parasitic
Yes yes goyim, your progeny are nothing but life ruining parasites! You don't want to be saddled down with some useless retard right?> Party it up, turn gay or one of our 25 new non-viable genders, you don't want to be forced to accept only one of two genders, have as many as you like! Take drugs, party, be stupid, go to concerts goyim yes life is a joke. Everyone owes you everythign for free. You're forever young, life fast die soon or whatever, dool dude! Good goyim

>>714455652
Daily reminder

Pregnancy is basically like hosting a parasite, it benefits by deriving nutrients from its host and overall decreases the hosts biological fitness.

What do you do when you get a tick or hair lice? Do you leave them because its 'their body and not yours' so you have no right to get rid of them?

>>714468028
Nah. He has ALS.

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>>714455652
Parasitic tapeworms living off your body aren't part of your body either. But you should still kill them, anything that feeds off your lifeforce is allowed to be killed as a form of self-defense. Your body even does it automatically when it does a flu, it's nature. By your logic you should kill yourself right now so that you don't kill anymore poor innocent viruses.

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>>714455652
Keep it up cunt. We got God Emperor Trump into office. We'll outlaw your right next. Don't believe me? Keep pushing.

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>>714468065
Yes yes, very good

>>714468065
>comparing lice to human beings

Liberals, everyone.

>>714468138
gets a flu*

>>714456052
yes, please do that. I know you wanted those options to sound bad, but they are actually great.

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>>714468252
Oy vey

>>714468252
I'm asking you to do it and see if you go to prison.

>>714468065
>>714468138
so you should have been aborted then? aren't all humans parasites by this definition?

we're all feeding off the earth.

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>>714468333

>>714468366
>so you should have been aborted then? aren't all humans parasites by this definition?
Yes. Your point?

>>714468234
I'm not a liberal if I think humans are rubbish. Especially little useless humans who piss, shit and vomit everywhere.

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>>714468366
Very good goyim! Yes, humans are parasites on the earth. We should stop rpocreating. We need to cull the herd by 2/3rds we are destroying mother earth, won't you think of the carbon and environment goyim? Pay us on behalf of carbon plox. Kill yourselves goyims, save the earth.

>>714455652
they shouldn't even be considered real people until they're 4. Do we consider dogs people? No. If it's cognitive capacity is significantly less than a dog's, why fucking consider it a person?

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>>714455652
dailyreminder mother's personhood trumps the fetus


gb2 reddit's conservative board you out of touch social hack

>>714456118
my whole things is:
if a woman can abort a child without any say from me
-then likewise-
if a woman has a baby that i dont want, then im off the hook for everything.

thats true feminism bitches

>>714468450
you're so edgy anon.

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>>714468062
>turn gay

>>714468366
Whether or not I should have been aborted was up to my mother. Since I was feeding off her lifeforce, she had the authority and right to kill me on the grounds of it being self-defense.

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>>714468626
>this
Satan = Saturn = Star of David = Sabbath = Jews
As myth has it, Saturn ate his own children so that he would not be succeeded by them.

Abortion is a liberal Jew fetish, coincidence?

>>714468552
>cull the herd by 2/3rds
nope, according to that other guy, it might as well be everyone. just no humans. and no animals too. just the earth. oops, no plants either.

just rocks floating in space.

>>714468455
Then kill yourself if you think that low of yourself.

Personally I'm having fun using the internet, driving cars, drinking alcohol, and living life.

It's your choice, though. I won't stop you if you try to kill yourself.

>>714455652
inb4

abortions tickel

abortios bring out the child in you

abortions keep unwanted retarded children off the socail programs payrolls

>get raped
>have to pay child support

>woman fucks who ever she wants
>she's a poor innocent baby who dindu nuffin
Keep protecting women, guys.

>>714468333
>I don't like to hear the truth, let's call them jews! That will stop them from hurting my pc ears.

>>714468790
nice try islamist

>>714468552
>>714468333
>>714468175
>>714468062
How about you explain why abortion is wrong instead of making faggy Jew conspiracy memes, faggot?

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>>714468904
Oh voy!

>>714468812
>using the internet, driving cars, drinking alcohol
≠ life
Those are all things any 16 yr old does

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>>714468855
Silly goy, only women can be raped, just like only Whites can be racist.

>>714468683
>and right

sheesh. kids have it rough. its amazing theres any population at all, when their own caregivers want to kill them.

>>714455652
Baby is parasite until it can live without using moms systems.

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>>714468812
I don't think low of myself. I just think low of most others, because its easier to presume everyone is shit until proven otherwise. In some cases, especially like what is being exhibited, I'm not proven wrong.

>>714468552
>>714468790
>>714468333

lol fringe right winger can't win so he's throwing out conspiracy theories


go back to the fema camp you came from faggot

>>714469069
And also most of the developed world.

Honest question. Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

>>714469117
Self defense is a right, you moron. If a parasitic tapeworm was feeding off your body, wouldn't you kill it?

>>714469096
google stawman faggot, becuase you can't argue for shit

gtfo

>>714468626
Do you know how insane all that bullshit sounds?
Why does it have to be because of Satanism?
Why can't it just be that reluctant mothers simply value their easy life over their children.

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>>714469219
You're right, everyone is shit except you.

If only everyone could be like you, right? God damn you're such a model human being, your life must be so great!

>>714469254
I heard there would be some faggot on this thread today, thought you might need to tell another person to kys
It's okay anon, I'm here for (you)

If its her body her right.

then why isn't it " my money my right" for the guy?

>>714469355
Google sarcasm.

>>714469028
they can't without resorting to fallacious arguements or debunked science

>>714456033
So ,after the baby is born, it will feed itself?

>>714464340
I have memories from when I was younger than two. Best we can figure it was fall which would make it a year and a half.

I'm probably an odd case though. Memories from that young are a bad thing. Most of us bathed with our parents at that age. I was no different.

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>>714469238
>right winger
lol left-right politics, good goy
>can't win
It's not a game to me. I'm not here to compete for a win or a loss. I have no stake in this.
>conspiracy theories
There were no theories espoused, the fact that you interpreted them as such validates them more than anything I said.
>go back to the fema camp you came from faggot
angsty outbursts aren't an argument

>>714469238
not even conspiracy theories, just memes. especially bad memes, since the jews are actually awful, but the "jews did everything" meme turns all their legit evil shit into a big joke

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>>714469409
Dodging the question? If babies are parasites, and so are humans, why do you allow yourself to live?

Isn't it your moral duty to stop existing if you're going to abide by your own ideology?

>>714469519
if it finds a good adoption agency, sure

>>714469307
procreation of your own species is not a parasitic act.

its laughable that you don't understand this.

but you have to justify it some way don't you?

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>>714469647
>good adoption agency
LOL nothing but systematic child abuse and trafficking.

>>714469647
how can an adoption agency make a baby feed itself? Is there some new cybernetic brain implant for infants that exponentially increase brain development that I'm not aware of?

>>714455736

she's allowed to abort your dick while you're inside her then

I say unless there is a concern over rape/incest or the mother's life is endangered abortions after the fetal heart has started should be illegal. That seems to make the most sense logically.

>>714469380
>Everyone is shit until proven otherwise =\= I'm the greatest human being ever alive

Wew, good job taking words out of my mouth I didn't even say. I guess the life the kind of person has who thinks every random person on the street is going to be a philanthropist who cures cancer and solves world hunger must be a great thing. You must never be dissapointed ever.

>>714469605
bro the earth will easily move on after we've all killed each other, and anything outside of 1AU doesn't even know we ever existed.

>>714469767
sounds like most american large families to me

You made your choice when you spread your legs.

>>714455908
I knew those chinks ate babies

Once you eat human flesh you'll crave more
Chinks start the zombie apocalypse
Nah jk

Personally I believe abortion should be mandatory unless you can prove a very good reason as to why you should be able to keep the baby (i.e. you're a pedophile or sex trafficker).

Always mandatory for non-whites though.

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>>714455652

>>714469856
So then anarchy is the answer and we shouldn't have any ethics or laws?

>>714469850
>I didn't even say

>I don't think low of myself. I just think low of most others, because its easier to presume everyone is shit until proven otherwise

>>714469834
>or the mother's life is endangered
I don't even believe that shit anymore.

they had this one lady who was pregnant, have an invasive operation.

they took the entire bay out, did the operation, PUT THE BABY BACK IN , and she carried the baby to term.
we live in the future. there's no excuse for abortions, other than being a huge whore.

>>714470040
ethics ≠ laws
abortion ≠ murder

>>714470094
you're retarded

You can kick someone out of your house, right?
You can have them evicted?

Or not your body, not your choice?

You should be able to evict a baby's body from your own body.

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So lurking did not help me make any informed decision on this subject.

Some background, I'm a left leaning moderate who previously believed in abortion, but now I'm on the fence.

So the way I see it, it is my choice, as well as the mother's choice. and on that note, I think a fetus should count as life, however, can something that can't think or even experience being alive yet or record memories be considered alive? I've seen vids of doctors poking at fetuses and they move and stuff, but that is a muscle reaction which shows that the brain is functioning, but not only its basic function is working.

Currently I think it should be legal to get an abortion in certain circumstances, but not after a period of time. I don't think the law should be so black and white to to deny it completely nor give access fully.

>>714470189
yup

>>714470247
you're living in the past. get with the times gramps.

>>714470040
>>I don't think low of myself. I just think low of most others, because its easier to presume everyone is shit until proven otherwise

All I said was 'I don't think low of myself', meaning, I think average of myself because I have 'proven' to myself. Geddit?. If that somehow translates to "I'm god and I'm better than all of you" then you must really take every conversation out of context.

>>714469734
>procreation of your own species is not a parasitic act.
Are you retarded? Babies are parasites by definition.
>its laughable that you don't understand this.
No, it's laughable that YOU do even know what a parasite is.
parasite
ˈparəsʌɪt/Submit
noun
1.
an organism which lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.
This is literally what a fetus does.
>but you have to justify it some way don't you?
What the fuck do you mean "some way". This is the whole reason why abortion should be legal, because it's self-defense. You're telling me that if a thief had access to your bank account and was taking your money, you wouldn't do anything about it because "durr, it's not a parasitic act if it's your own species durrrrrrrrr"?

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>>714470553
You we're a parasite (and probably still are). Oh, but let me guess, now that you're not an infant anymore, we can now kill all infants and devalue their life and potential.
Nuke everyone! (Except for me, of course)

>>714470270
>the brain is functioning
thats all you really need to know. its response is an act sensory reaction. so most likely the baby can feel pain.


>it should be legal to get an abortion in certain circumstances
the circumstances required are les and less each year. there' no reason anyone should need an abortion with the way medical science is these days.

being , poor, is not a reason. a medical emergency may be, but eventually it won't be when advancements in technology are made.

>>714470094
>>714470270
At the end of the day people are going to want abortions. Old school prostitutes would just drink the foetus to death or wail on their stomach and shit. Better to have legal abortions then fucked up failed abortion kids with alcohol or drug deformities

>>714470003
You're even more retarded than OP. Sperm are literally part of the man's body, they are not babies with their own DNA like a fetus in a woman, they only contain the man's DNA, that's the whole point. You need to retake Sex Ed, you fucking idiot.

>>714470189
Where do we derive our laws from? Are they just arbitrary things we make up for no reason? No, we base them on ethics.

if Abortion isn't murder, go kill dependent retarded people and coma patients and you shouldn't get charged with murder right?

>>714470512
Everyone thinks they're an average, alright person.

>>714470553
>its host

parasites are outside organisms taking nutrients from the host. the parasite is the guest.


a bay being born form your own systems is not parasitic. its cell division, and eventually a new organism that is being created for a function that is ultimately beneficial to its species.

a parasite is not beneficial to another species, at least in the short term (circle of life and all that)


so shut up. you are an idiot.

You initiate the life, you're responsible. Simple.

>>714471154
raep

>>714470925
if aho wants to have an abortion becasue she regretted being a ho, then she should be fined or jailed.

make them think before they open their legs to fucking chad brian over there.

>>714471133
>arbitrary things we make up for no reason
Well actually if you believe in christian laws, I would have to agree.
Laws are for the protection of freedoms

>>714471310
I'm talking about the legal system, America specifically. We have a system, people come together, debate about things, and we legislate what the majority agree on.

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>>714455652
bait
itt newfags
sage

>>714471150
>outside organisms
not necessarily
>ultimately beneficial to species
no baby being born in modern times is beneficial to the human species

>>714470094
>no excuse for abortion
dude, there are FAR to many people on earth, we do not need more if possible. and fucking useless people too, retards, potheads, fat bastards who can't move, they contribute nothing to the future and we're keeping them alive. we don't need to fucking make more of them. if someone chooses to abort a child, they usually have a reason, the kid is defected or they don't have money to raise it or something like that. if it's a bullshit reason, then they probably would've been a shitty parent anyway, making the life of the kid shitty, resulting in another shitty useless adult.

>>714471310
Babies don't have the freedom to live, though?

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>>714470858
>most likely the baby can feel pain
So can a lobster, but we still boil them.

>>714471464
>and this should be the only way laws are defined
>>714471515
they don't trump the living, friendo

>>714471642
It's the best way to create and maintain laws.

>they don't trump the living, friendo

They are the living.

>>714470786
Nice strawman, faggot. How the fuck did you take "Being allowed to defend yourself against attackers is good." and turn it into "Durr hurr, that means we're allowed to kill everyone, kek nuke the world, durrrrrrr". What part of parasites and attackers don't you understand, dipshit?

>devalue their life and potential
That argument makes no sense. So what? Now you're not allowed to defend yourself if the attacker has "potential"? So you think Ivy League students are allowed to go on killing and robbery sprees without anyone stopping them then?

When it is in early development it isnt the baby's body. Its a mass of cells. It is no more a human than a tumor

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>>714471281
Yeah, let's put tens of millions of women in jail!!! YEEHAW!!

>>714471761
>best way to create and maintain laws
>They are the
Not quite, according to american law fucko

>>714471856
You're a mass of cells. You're no more human than a tumor.

See how that works?

>>714471492
Well said, anon.

>>714471922
Not for long since God Emporor Trump will be President.

All abortion except in extreme cases of threat to the mothers life or rape will be illegal.

>>714472045
and then they'll be fixed after?

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>>714455652

>>714471935
>See how that works?
No, your analogy is retarded and makes no sense. Tumors don't have sentience, humans do.

>>714471935
They call me MISTER Mass of Cells.

>>714472132
Nobody said anything about that. However, if a woman is a whore and has illegal abortions and is caught, she should be fixed and spend time in jail.

>>714472237
tumors will never have sentience. Babies will.

>>714472045
yay, more niggers. just what we fucking wanted.

>>714455652
The creature you have labeled "baby's body" is actually woman's body until detached from the placentia and the ubbiblical cord is disconnected, otherwise the baby would die. The woman is growing it inside her. If she dies the unborn baby dies.

However, I think you should be responsible enough to only ejaculate inside a female's vagina when you are prepared to have a kid(s) in 9 months. I don't understand why this concept is so difficult.

>>714472249
wow you must really hate your mother

>>714472045
Trump's pro-choice, anon.

>>714472237
A fetus does not have sentience. it doesn't move or act out side of reaction to physical stimulus.

>>714469807
Thats called consent, fag.

>>714456395
>i dont use iud
>he doesnt use condom
>i dont use condom
>i dont use plan b
>i dont say no
>mfw

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>>714455652
What if I'm pro-abortion not because I think it's the woman's right to choose, but because baby murder is awesome?

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>>714455652
Just useless fetus flesh

>>714455652
Its your choice to force the body out of your body. People shouldnt be forced to give kidneys and people shouldnt be forced to give 9 months of their life for something they don't want

>>714472327
And that matters why? They don't have sentience when you kill them. By your logic, you're not allowed to masturbate since your sperm has the potential to become sentient.

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>>714455652
>mfw he says no to raid for niggers

>>714472422
Yeah, I know. That's what I was talking about.

>>714472366
She was a wonderful person, why do you say that? She wasn't a whore who had abortions.

>>714472347
We're talking about humans, not niggers. They can keep aborting.

>>714472420
No he's not.

>>714472422
But it will. Newborn babies aren't sentient either. Is it okay to kill them? Should humans only have rights from age ~3 onward?

>>714472617
Let's say you have a car accident. You become braindead. The doctors are confident you'll make a full recovery in a matter of months.

But, for the time being, you're not sentient.


Would it be fine for someone, or your family, to decide to kill you and pull the plug?

Where precisely does the woman's body end and the baby's body begin? Is it at the woman's end of the umbilical cord, the baby's end, or somewhere in between? Does the woman have the right to alter her own body in ways that would prevent the baby's body from receiving resources from her body? Does she have the right to consume substances that are harmful to the baby but not harmful to her? No? Then you are telling a woman what she can and can't do with her own body.

>>714472617
On an entirely other note, "sentient sperm" sounds like a really dumb horror movie, and I want to see it.

>>714472797
you enjoying your first bukkake?
Open wide bitch

>>714472555
Why did they get pregnant if they didn't want to be pregnant?

>>714472797
>She wasn't a whore who had successful abortions.
fixed

>>714455652
Can we get this with a tapeworm instead instead of a child? Same line of logic.

>>714473004
Because they wanted to fuck. Its like saying someone shouldnt be allowed to take medication for food poisoning because they ate sushi.

>>714455865
Until it's 18 of course. So let's just go ahead and start slaughter 8 year olds when they start to get annoying

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>>714472964
>>714473032
You're allergic to logic and the symptoms of your allergic reaction is pain in the anal area.

I hear they have a cream for that.

>>714473192
There's this cool new invention called a condom, just came out this week. they have all kinds, thin ones, rubbed ones, it's crazy!

There's also this insance ancient Chinese technique, very obscure, little known- "pullout"

It's where you - get this - have sex, and then PULL IT OUT before you ejaculate! Holy shit, so fucking insane.

>>714472797
>Would it be fine for someone, or your family, to decide to kill you and pull the plug?
Unless I'm paying for my own life support, yes, they are allowed to pull the plug. It's the same as if a thief was taking your money through your bank account. If I'm on life-support and taxpayers or the hospital pays for it instead of me, then they have the right to end my life-support and protect their property. Simple.