What is /b/'s honest stance on abortion?

>>714455512
55555get

>>714455556
SO CLOSE. FUCK.

Less welfare I have to pay for.

>>714455577
Checked

Delicious

>>714455556

and the winner is:

>>714455555

Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. My FWB had one in college with my spawn

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Illgeal

>>714455512
Should be allowed, but only in the first 2-3 months.

>>714455512
murder or not, should be mostly illegal

>>714455512
Kill 'em all.

I'm all for it.
I shouldn't get to decide what someone else does with their body.
We're overpopulated enough as it is.
Why bring an extra life into this world, when it's not wanted and probably can't be supported? We all know that the mother won't be able to get government assistance once she has the child.

>>714456111
trips speak the truth!

>>714455512
Mothers choice, unless I am the father

I don't think it should be a form of birth control. 60% of births are abortions. I think that if you have an abortion, you should get your tubes tied and not be allowed to have children.

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>>714456585
>60% of births are abortions

in one hand, i'm all for it, since it means killing babies.

but on the other hand, it gives women a choice

>>714456760
"Birth" meaning the baby coming out of the vagina. "Abortion" meaning they're dead.
Is it that hard to understand?

there's literally nothing wrong with abortions

>>714455512
I couldn't give less of a fuck to be honest. Let it be legal and let people decide for them fucking selves.

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>>714456585

>60% of births are abortions
>births
>>abortions
>>>60%

>>714457001
It was a strange way to phrase it chief. Regardless, your opinion is that of someone who hasn't had sex much.

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>>714456585
>>>60% of births are abortions

>>714457121
thank god...sb said that

fuckwits die all the time and it's not even alive. and idiot women who want to put a big fucking burden on this world and ruin people's lives deserve to die themselves.

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>>714456585
1 abortion = no babies ever for you again

>>714457214
>>714457252
>>714457351
How else would you word it? "60% of babies that come out of the vagina or aborted"?
I also realized after writing that, that it a statistic in NYC. Still disgusting, nonetheless.

>>714457595
Yes. I think that if you can consciously kill your own child, you shouldn't be allowed to have another one. Seems pretty logical to me.

okay until the brain develops

>>714455512
It's fine, quite frankly we should sterilize everyone and keep all the eggs and semen frozen. If you want to have a kid you auction up an egg or semen, then pay an additional 10k upfront for the in vitro fertilization.

>>714457001
and where do you think the dead baby comes out from, her fucking nose?

>>714457798
60% of fetuses are aborted maybe? A mass of dividing cells without any brain function is not a child regardless. If you saw what it looked like, that it had no mind and couldn't do anything at all, you would never call it a child.

>>714457121
This

>>714455512
it should be legal and encouraged. enough lives have been ruined because of a pregnancy.

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>>714456585
I think someone skimmed too hard.

http://www.breitbart.com/abortion/2016/12/05/cdc-report-new-york-city-abortion-rate-60-birth-rate/

>>714455512
it should be legal til 21, late term abortion

People always use the excuse that "it could threaten the life of the mother in some cases!" Okay, so induce labor and deliver the baby before it's due date? Premature babies are a thing.
From a quick search: "Amillia Taylor is the world's youngest premature baby ever to survive, and was born at just 21 weeks and six days into her gestation, which was two weeks before the legal abortion cut off at the time in the US."

>>714458183
Tell me more about these masses of dividing cells without any brain function. It's fascinating.

>>714458370
Or... You know... Don't have sex if you're not ready to deal with the consequences. That works too.

Kill the stupid fucking kids

>>714456222
>we're overpopulated

No, we're not. Only a fool would believe that

>>714458735
So edgy.

>forced to get circumcised as an infant
>have to pay child support if she wants to go through with it
>still have to pay if you were raped, underage, or she fucked some other dude while married
You have no rights; why would you want to give women even more?

>>714458490
Most abortions happen long before 21 weeks you braindead fuck

>>714458587
Or just don't worry about it because it does not affect you

Legal.
If mother's life is threatened or pregnancy is caused by rape - refund.

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>>714458922
I agree with this.

>>714458922
In what way does infanticide not have a profound and negative effect on a society?

I mean....I'm pro-choice! But I was talking to my boyfriend earlier about what we would do if my birth control failed and I got pregnant and I realized that I don't think I could personally get an abortion..

>>714458885

You can get an abortion for a pregnancy up to 21 weeks. People do it. People also do it later than that. You act like everyone in this world is a fucking saint. Maybe they should take a plan-B pill the day after unprotected sex. Not doing anything about it and waiting for the child to have time to develop is horrible. You were okay with it for three days after the chance of pregnancy, but you have so much going on in your busy life that you just didn't get around to it until the baby was halfway developed? You serious?

I understand why pro lifers are upset by it but who fucking cares about babies, their lives have no value to me.

>>714455512

Jew here.

Abortion is like Raid for white people.

Ever since we convinced white women to murder their children and for white men to just stand by and watch (the origin of cuckery), the white birth rates have just been getting lower and lower.

Natural selection, I suppose.

It looks like the whites weren't so smart after all...

>>714459414
What are you talking about? My spawn got aborted 8 weeks or so after conception. I don't think 21 weeks is right.

>>714459246
I don't know. How about you give me some valid points so maybe I can consider giving a fuck

>>714455512
I'm pro-abortion. Not pro-choice, just pro-abortion.

>>714459568
"Your spawn"
You're so edgy,
So, let me get this straight, your birth control (or lack thereof, I don't know the situation), failed, so you decided to wait EIGHT weeks to do something about it. Three days is plenty of time to run to Walmart or a pharmacy to prevent that.

>>714455512
I don't mind it, but I'd reconsider the method you're about to use, anon.

>>714459973
huh? y'know like...people don't realize right away that their birth control failed and that they're pregnant right?

>>714459973
You know how I know that you don't have sex? Because you don't know how birth control or finding out that someone's pregnant, even works. Never mind scheduling a doctor's appointment.

>>714460076
No, because clearly a lot of the people against abortion have 0 experience with sex.

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>>714455512
It shouldn't be used as a form of birth control for irresponsible people that don't do anything to prevent conception, but there are plenty of circumstances where I agree with terminating a pregnancy, with the mother's actual life taking precedence over the baby's potential life.

>>714455512
Pro-choice, even though the whole "pro-life" is a misnomer because it's not life at conception that's not how it works.

>>714460076
"So, let's just wait around and see if it worked!"
Fucking idiot.

>>714460134
No, I'm just not against having consequences. If my birth control were to fail, my immediate reaction wouldn't be to kill it.
If you're against having children, then take precautions.

>>714460361
>"So, let's just wait around and see if it worked!"
Fucking idiot.

Are you trolling or are you really this retarded?

>>714460361

people don't....take pregnancy tests right after having sex all the time birth control has a 92-99% success rate depending on what people use

and plan b can really fuck your insides up

you clearly don't know much about this do you?

>>714460361
>No, I'm just not against having consequences. If my birth control were to fail, my immediate reaction wouldn't be to kill it.
>If you're against having children, then take precautions.

Your response that I quoted here, >>714460507
shows for certain that you have absolutely no experience with sex and should just shut the fuck up.

>>714455512
Medfag here. Maybe future gynaecologist. My stance to abortion is that it should be illegal, UNLESS, there are complications to the pregnancy that threatens the woman's life, or the woman has been raped. Couples that want to abort their baby should not be accepted .They have to take responsibility over their own actions. Then again, they would pay sums for that abortion. But no thank you. Ethics over money.

>>714460534
people arguing against abortion usually have no idea how conception, life, fetuses, etc work

thats why there is arguments in the first place

>>714460653
>medfag
>claims he's a future gynecologist but literally can't even spell the word

And I'm a fighter pilot.

I think it should be legal for the lulz

>>714460661

that's so depressing

>>714456222
Trips confirm.

>>714460661

OK, elaborate.

>>714459738
That's not how a dialog works, faggot.
I asked a clear question; I didn't write "hey, I have some points let me know if you're interested."

>>714460309
They can induce labor if the baby is far enough along to live outside the womb in a hospital setting. If you really wanted the baby, the mother would agree to that.

>>714460507
I'm saying that if you are 100% against having a child and you say to yourself that you would abort it if you knew you were with child, then do something about it. Don't just wait around until the child becomes a living thing. I'm not saying to run to the bathroom and piss on a stick immediately after sex. I'm saying that birth control is not 100% effective. So, have a back-up plan that doesn't involve ripping your baby apart into pieces.

You're just all pissed off because you don't want guilt over killing your own baby. Justifying murder won't help you sleep tonight.

I don't have a problem with abortion, but i do believe the guy should have a say so in the matter, women seem to think it's all their choice, but the man is the one who will pay everything for it.
Especially if there's a defect with the baby then it should be terminated.

>>714455512
World's biggest problem: overpopulation. If you think about it, all the other major problems we face (excepting our propensity for war) issue from this one - hunger, pollution, climate change, depletion of natural resources, etc.
Solution: lower birthrate.
Simplest way to effect solution: allow termination of unwanted pregnancies.

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>>714460999

999 confirms eugenics are good

>>714460999
they should have the right to terminate, but not the right to stop her from terminating.

>>714460990

I don't know if you're aware, but when people get pregnant, the "baby" doesn't become a human or even have a heartbeat for a while...thats why there's a cutoff date for when you can abort

I'm sorry that you don't understand how pregnancy or sex works, but there's many resources online, or even at your junior high health and sex class

>>714455577
consolation dubs

>>714461098
Executing criminals on mass would also help

>>714461226
what if the woman wants to raise the baby without the father having to be apart of its life?

>>714455512
The later term the better. Best way to breed your own food. Tender and nutritious.

And it's not cannibalism because they aren't people!

>>714455512
Babies are delicious

>>714460790
not everyone in this fucking world is from the US. Singapore was a former British colony, and we still use British English

>>714461353
lol

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>>714461226
Why not? You also are creating the baby, if you go and buy the house she doesn't just have the right to destroy it without any say from you.

>>714461322
I guess thats fine too unless she lied about birth control or something to get preg.

>>714461098
edit: I should have said "prevention/termination..."

>>714461098
A lot of these women also don't understand the risks of an abortion. If can really fuck up your insides with scarring.

>>714461257
21 weeks is the cut-off period. The baby is halfway developed by then. You can go ahead and believe that the baby is just a bundle of cells, but is the doctor really going to stick a needle into a bundle of cells to terminate the pregnancy and remove it cell by cell? Do you not know how an abortion works?

The State has no right to tell women what they can and can not do to THEIR baby.

Within the first few months, it's alright. But then again, I'm not the mother in that situation, so she should have full choice.

>>714460990
What do you mean have a back up plan? And most people are not 100% against having children, they just don't want one right now - which is why not every male is snipped. If every male was snipped then the abortion debate wouldn't exist.

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>>714455556
YOU POOR MOTHER FUCKER

>>714461588
Let me also clarify. Within the first few months, it's not even a baby. It's a mass of cells. Terminating it isn't killing anything.

>>714461297
Ethics aside, executing criminals en masse would be only a drop in the bucket.

>>714455512
Pro choice

>>714460653
Not your call to make. Abortions are a medically safe (more likely to have complications from a tonsillectomy, 4%, than you are from an abortion, 2.1%) and as a physician, if you become one, your loyalty is to the health of your patient, not your ego or morals.

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Can we talk about alimony please?
>If you take care of a woman for so long and they never work then after you divorce them or they divorce you you have to continue to pay them even though they are an adult who should learn to live on their own
>if someone has a kid with you and they are a woman they will always win custody for no real reason and you will have to pay them money even if they don't allow you to see your child
How the fuck is this right?

>>714455512
The people that get abortions are the type that should be parents anyways. Also means less niggers.

>>714461760
stupid people?

>>714461728
But anon, don't you know everybody GOD creates has a SOUL?!

>>714461602
You see, a backup plan is when your original plan of having sex without it resulting in a pregnancy goes wrong. You come up with this cool thing called a "back-up plan", so when your original plan fails, you aren't left with the choice of killing your baby or not.

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Honestly I'm fine with abortion. An unwanted life in the world is something that would keep me up more at night then a fetus that was snuffed out before it ever actually knew what was going on or even cared.

We have too many unwanted kids running around already, what we really should get is some type of government forced contraception where you have to actually prove you want to be a parent long term and then you're allowed to conceive.

I am pro-choice. I wouldn't abort a child of mine unless it was defective in some way, the mother was a one night stand or that I suspect would raise my child in a SJW fashion.

should be mandatory in all 50 states

>>714461956
Yeah I mean suggest one you pinhead.

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>>714461929

kek.

>>714461989
Sooo "I wouldn't abort my own child, but I actually would."

>>714461858

Yeah alimony seems pretty retarded, I guess just try and get a bitch that won't pull that shit on you (only time I'd want her unemployed would be just before and after she's given birth).

As for the custody yeah that's really fucked, I think the only time a person (man or woman) shouldn't be allowed to see their kid is if they are a proper danger too them (which I bet 80% of single parents aren't).

>>714458154
cuck theory here, unless it is your own semen and you get to choose the egg. No desire to raise a halfrican even if I accidentally sired it.

>>714455512
Am I pro-life or pro-choice? Neither. I am pro-abortion. People don't have anywhere near as many abortions as they should. More people should get more abortions.

>>714456585
>abortions create life

i honestly dont care if abortion is legal or not

>>714462231
HERE! HERE!

>>714461462

Except it's not just a single purchase of something material it's a tax on her body and then a 18 year tax on both of your wallets.

>>714458750
Go to India.

>>714460790
Nope. His spelling is correct.

>>714455512
Keep it safe, legal, and rare.

>i didnt jizz you up, i dont care
or
>your body, go for it, i respect your decision (pls dont keep it i cant even look after myself and i need all my money for pointless stuff, pls abort pls abort pls abort pls abort pls abort pls abort pls abort)

>>714461499

Nah, but he's been finishing inside of me a lot and even though I'm on birth control (the nuvaring) we're aware that pregnancy is still a(n admittedly) low risk

>>714461527

I promise you that you don't know enough.

>>714462109
pinheads, aspies, tards, blind, deaf, dumb, limbless....... these are not my offspring. They are rejects to be disposed of.

>>714455512
Do you want my honest stance or my HONEST stance?

I think a wide variety of readily available, affordable, and effective contraceptives have essentially rendered abortion a fucking unnecessary and barbaric practice.
>honest

That being said...

If I ever accidentally got a bitch pregasaurus, I'd pray to God that she would get an abortion.
>HONEST

THAT being said...

It's never happened because I'm not retarded and I wrap that shit whether she's on the pill or not.

>>714459246
>In what way does infanticide not have a profound and negative effect on a society?
In the way that it actually benefits society. Less welfare spent, less crime, smaller population, etc.

>>714456261
Congrats, you just invalidated your own point:
>>714456222

>>714455512
100% for it. Had an abortion at 18 and I would not be where I am today if not for the lifesavers at Planned Parenthood.

Really, if it's not your body, you need to fuck right the hell off.

>>714455512
I'm personally pro-choice, but I think there should be regulations behind it. I'm just some faggot on /b/ buuuut

I think without exception it should be available to someone who's pregnancy is the product of rape, or the product of underage incest, shit like that where the pregnant person was taken advantage of horribly

I think there should be a limit on abortions you get though, it's not a form of birth control (which I think should be readily available as it lessens the need for abortion) and I think abortions should be performed before the point at which a baby could be born and still survive on its own. If you miss the boat, tough titty cause at that point it is for all intents a living person. Except for medical emergencies where if the mother had to give birth they would both die or whatever.

I don't know, that's just my rough take on the subject. I would be interested in hearing other opinions on the subject.

>>714455512
100% in favor of it. Antinatalist

>>714455512
>What is /b/'s honest stance on abortion?
should be mandatory.

>>714456585

You're probably the same asshole who is against providing free contraception to everyone.

It's okay, lack of intellect is a common problem with Trump Cucks.

>>714457798
So of a girl is raped at the age of 12, and gets pregnant from it, and has an abortion so as not to have her life further ruined she should never be allowed to have a child? Nioce.

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>>714462231
>>714462742

>>714459567
>Abortion is like Raid for white people.
Dude, look up black abortion statistics. There's a reason people (not me) complain about urban genocide.

>>714460958
Just go back to your blog and tell them how society is at a loss

>>714462563
I don't know what you're trying to defend. Being blind to the possibility of pregnancy after sex isn't really an excuse. It is a very preventable thing.

I don't like but think it should be legal.

>>714459979
its not op in picture fukcing newfag

To everybody saying it shouldn't be a form of bc - it isn't. Barely anybody uses plan b as bc because it messes you up for a few days, and that's just a milder form of an abortion. Anybody who uses abortions as bc would be broke and broken.

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>>714462452
/Thread.

>>714462658
I don't see why other people think their morals have to apply to everybody else just because they don't agree with something.

>>714455512
I believe abortions should be a thing
But I aslo wanna take it 7 steps further
We should not just have abortions, we should also
allow killing babies up to the age of 8 as you dont know wether they are a mistake or not up until then
Furthermore I believe the way this should be done is by
Shoving 8 foot dildos up their asses and down their throats simultaneously to induce a nice easy death

>>714455512
Ayy lmao

>>714463015

Idk if you're a moron or not, but you said that people should know "within 3 days" that they're pregnant. People don't get pregnant the moment they have sex y'know? It takes a while for the sperm to impregnate the ovum. And people on birth control won't be paranoid and waste money buying pregnancy tests for every single time they have sex "just in case". Most people do it once a month, because if they need an abortion, it'll be within the legal limit.

>>714455979
You are absolute scum. It should just be 1-2 months, only a monster would suggest otherwise.

>>714463381
Ooh, so edgy. I bet you have lots of friends.

>>714463381
nice b8 fag

>>714463139
Uh....... I take it you haven't seen the statistics the Alan Guttmacher Institute comes up with every year ?

Something like 95% of women who have had an abortion report that the pregnancy was unintentional and not the result of rape or incest. And something like 40% of women who have had an abortion go on to have a second one.

Rest assured, it's being used as a form of birth control.

>>714462639
So, you're going to go with the argument that people who have not even had the chance at life were all welfare bums, criminals, and had nothing significant to add to society?

What an interesting broad stroke argument. I seem to remember a certain side of the aisle being criticized for making arguments like that in recent years about other topics and the typically pro-choice side of the aisle would jump down their throats for it.

>>714463506
Thanks for noticing babes
>>714463512

We should just kill everyone so no one has any babies cuz dead people cant give birth.

>>714463381
nice

>>714463011
Pft... Implying I have the time to write a blog. I'm too busy playing Skyrim and Rocket League to keep up with a blog.

>>714463513
"90% of people who have abortions have abortions because it was an unintentional pregnancy"

That's...weird.....it's almost as if abortion is meant for unintentional pregnancies!

>>714463381
WINRAR

>>714462759
I encourage free contraception. Reduce the chance of pregnancy and spread of diseases? Maybe try not to assume that because I'm against terminating a life, I would be against preventing it. What the fuck are you on about?

>>714462885
I never implied that raping a child would be grounds for sterilization. The rapist, most definitely yes. But, being that the the age of 12 would be considered a child, it would mean the she could not legally consent or be able to even conceive. If you're a responsible parent, you take her to the hospital, to the ER, fully examine everything, terminate the pregnancy, and identify the rapist. Why do people like you have to make something so illogical to argue about into something to argue about? Are you sure you're on the same page?

>>714463450
Actually, I never said that you would know "in three days". Plan B is only effective after three days of sex. Maybe that what everyone was confused about. Are you all retarded?

>>714455512
couldn't care less - it's the parents' choice in the matter, since they're the one that has to deal with the little shithead.
if my wife somehow got pregnant, I'd freak the fuck out wondering how a hand gets pregnant

>>714463513

Most of the people who get abortions are already using or on birth control, and just get abortions because those methods fail. Don't act like a faggot.

>>714462628
>I wrap that shit whether she's on the pill or not
Smart, but very sad. I've become a pull-out pro, and i can barely stand THAT, let alone condoms.

>>714463780
OK ... ? And so you're conceding then that it IS in fact being used as a form of birth control.

Abortion prevents birth. You know that, right?

>>714455512
Pro choice up to the third trimester

>>714463811
You must be the retard because you actually said that 3 days is enough after having sex to get plan b, and that people who don't are stupid. Do I need to talk to you about how harmful plan b is to bodies and how people on birth control wouldn't use it?

>>714463381
4/10 anon.

If that final sentence was replaced with some form of eugenics selection criteria (parental crimes/lack of contribution to society) justifying retrospective abortions then you'd have maybe got a few on board.

>>714463845
Any way you want to slice it, it's still being used as a form of birth control.

>>714463139
Yeah, I'm one of those that said it shouldn't be, I suppose what I mean is that it should be hard to get one. But not so hard that women die unnecessarily like in Northern Ireland a couple of years ago. The woman wasn't even Irish, but their imaginary friend ended her life for no good reason.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-20321741

>>714463845
your a fucking dumbass who is coming into a
debate with no facts, quotes, or real statistics
to back up there point
so basically your all hillary supporters ever

>>714455512
All for it

>>714463513
So what?

What's your point?

>>714463927

???????? Abortion is not birth control in the way that the nuvaring or implant are.Birth control prevents conception. Abortion is for when it fails. How are you not understanding this? Very few people have unprotected sex and go "oh I can just abort this one, no need for condoms!"

Abortions are painful.

>>714464064

You can literally google it or use common sense.

>>714463998
oh no I just really dont like children unlees they're
in the use of Jarod Fogle and friends

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>>714455512
I'm alive. So I really don't care

>>714455979
allowed in the third trimester only

>>714464064

I'm on birth control and I would get an abortion if it fails. That's kind of why it's there lol.

>>714464134
Reading comprehension at zero. Point is literally the last sentence of the post

>>714463587
Yeah, pretty much. If you are an unwanted child, I'd put you at an elevated risk for all those things, especially the welfare and crime. If you aren't born into a loving, financially stable family, you don't turn out well. And I am not confident in the government's ability or motivation to raise a well-adjusted child.
Not sure about your side of the aisle argument, I am pro-capital punishment as well.

>>714464275
The only birth control that i use is chopping my
dick and balls off as i found that after that it's
completely impossible to get a girl pregnant
trust me just try it it really works

>>714464155
And expensive!! I also find it hilarious that people think abortion is used as a sole line of birth control. As you said, it's a backup.

>>714463974
What the fuck are you talking about?
>"Maybe they should take a plan-B pill the day after unprotected sex. Not doing anything about it and waiting for the child to have time to develop is horrible. You were okay with it for three days after the chance of pregnancy..."
I didn't realize I had to EXPLAIN Plan B to anyone. It is more effective if you take it up to three days after. That is why it is called "The morning after pill"
Jesus Christ, man.
So, you're against Plan B because it "fucks up your insides", but you're okay with an metal instruments going into your uterus and ripping your baby apart, resulting in scarring and possible infertility. Are you fucking high?

>>714455512
Totally against except for minorities they can go ahead

>>714464371
I don't see any point to that sentence. So what if it's being used as birth control, they still have to pay for it. That's how capitalism works, right republican?

I'm adopted so if I were aborted I wouldn't be alive today.

There's no real good reason to abort either. Don't want to take responsibility for it? Put it up for adoption then. It goes on to live with somebody else and you never see them again.
If they ever seek you out if you don't want to see them it's like 1 awkward conversation that will last for a few minutes and killing somebody in an abortion because you couldn't handle a conversation like that 20 years later is retarded.

>>714464155
>birth
>control

To prevent birth, not contraception. Something that prevents contraception is called a contraceptive. Something that prevents birth is called birth control.

Jesus...it's like English isn't your first language. You're worse than my ESL students.

>>714464635
>right republican?

hurrrrr you got me!!!

>>714458587
Except for the fact that states with abstinence only education have the highest rate of teen pregnancy.

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>>714464668
10/10.

I dont mean to be so brash
but when i say Christmas is trash
i mean it
I dont get a single present
it makes me feel lie a peasant
dont be offended
just wait till its ended
SANTA ISN'T REAL
now how do you feel?

>>714464064
>basically your all hillary supporters ever
Dude, I voted for Gary Johnson, and prefer Trump to Hilldog. Not all people base their politics on one issue.

>>714464876
PREACH!!

>>714464788
I'm not arguing for abstinence only sex education, retard.
I'm saying "if you don't want kids, don't have sex."
That's a much different statement than "kids, sex is bad. Mmkay."

>>714464636
I feel like the main reason is not wanting your pussy all stretched out. Also if you have a kid and you're not poor as fuck there is a certain social pressure to raise it yourself.

>>714455512
product of rape, put the mother life in danger, the child is going to be a retard or worse=OK
parents dont use protection=Not OK
as control of population for the poor= Maybe

>>714464966
>voted for Gary Johnson

HAHAHAHAHAHA
Great job wasting your vote faggot

>>714464584
I'm honestly worried about your mental health and reading comprehension at this point.

>>714464583
Right??? Birth control is already testing my limits price wise, but jesus abortion is so expensive!!

>>714463974
Side effects of Plan B:
nausea, diarrhea, or stomach pain;
dizziness, tired feeling;
breast pain or tenderness;
changes in your menstrual periods; or.
headache.
Okay, so like period symptoms? Wow. So bad.

Abortion Side effects:
Heavy or persistent bleeding
Infection or sepsis
Damage to the cervix
Scarring of the uterine lining
Perforation of the uterus
Damage to other organs
Death
Abdominal pain and cramping
Nausea
Vomiting
Diarrhea
Spotting and bleeding

Tell me more.

>>714455512
god said it is a sin
any good 4channer knows abortion is bad

trump 2016

>>714464668

I doubt someone like you is teaching anyone if you don't understand the difference between abortion and an iud implant.

Once more.

Birth control. Controls your body's hormones so that you CANNOT GET PREGNANT.

Abortion. Aborts a fetus from your PREGNANT BODY.

>>714464584
The thing is many people see what you wrote as implying everybody would be able to know if they impregnated a woman within those 3 days. Not every accidental birth comes from a ripped condom. If she ate her pill a little too late one day and didn't realise, or there was sperm in their precum before they pulled out - you wouldn't be able to tell within those 3 days.

>>714457595
Does that includes those who's been raped?

>>714465299

Which is why abortion isn't being used as a form of birth control and is a last ditch option. Fag.

I assume everyone who is against abortion is just mentally retarded or a faggot.

>>714465485
Except, you know...
>>714464668

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>>714465018
>I'm saying "if you don't want kids, don't have sex."
Haha and I'm saying 'fuck you!' Keep your fascist hands off my genitals. I'm gonna go fuck.

fuck abortion. it is murder. unless i get a bitch pregnant then fuck her - she better get one because i'm no baby daddy.

If it means less people in the world then hell yeah.

>>714465139
>Great job wasting your vote faggot
My vote is mine. Don't worry about it. Particularly since my state went Trump by double digits. I'm proud of my vote.

>>714465299
Honestly the abortion hurt way less than the fucking pills they prescribed me afterward that gave me the worst cramps of my life.

I don't think you understand how much it (or a period cramp) hurts unless you've been septic and unable to pass a bowel movement. Because that's basically what it is: your organs are so swollen the shit cannot get through. And the human body really freaks out if it's unable to pass waste.

>>714465595
Oops, my bad. I forgot that common sense was a fascist principle.

>>714465299
You're arguing a point we all know - abortion is worse than plan B. Nobody here disagrees with you.

>>714465436
I know that. Jesus fucking Christ.
If you do NOT want children, but want sex. Have a back-up plan. Don't wait until it's too late. Don't wait a month later, and have to go kill your baby. Take the fucking pill. It's WAY safer than the side effects of an abortion.
>Side effects of Plan B:
nausea, diarrhea, or stomach pain;
dizziness, tired feeling;
breast pain or tenderness;
changes in your menstrual periods; or.
headache.
Okay, so like period symptoms? Wow. So bad.

Abortion Side effects:
Heavy or persistent bleeding
Infection or sepsis
Damage to the cervix
Scarring of the uterine lining
Perforation of the uterus
Damage to other organs
Death
Abdominal pain and cramping
Nausea
Vomiting
Diarrhea
Spotting and bleeding

READ.

>>714465416
You're literally talking about birth control and contraceptives like they're synonymous. No one said abortion was being used as a contraceptive. We're saying it's being used as a form of BIRTH - CONTROL.

I'm going to explain this one more time so try really hard to wrap your head around this...

Naturally something that prevents contraception would prevent birth as well, right? OK. But not all forms of birth control are contraceptives. In the same way that all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares. Understand?

Abortion is BIRTH CONTROL. It is the mother fucking DEFINITION of birth control.

>>714465677
this

>>714465778
You haven't caught on that I'm a female? Tell me more about period cramps. I'm so interested in learning more about my body.

>>714465576
It's like you don't understand words, or basic theory. It's scary.

I'm just going to assume you're a troll and stop responding, because it doesn't seem possible for someone to be this stupid.

>>714457897

the brain becomes fully developed at about 13 years old. true story.

>>714465826
Wtf is this backup plan you mention? Give us an example. Plan B is the backup plan for when you KNOW you've got a chick spermed up. If you don't know, then how the fuck would you within those 3 days?

>>714465998

Jesus, you're actually fucking retarded aren't you?

>>714465298
Yup. Another thing that always strikes me:
The people who scream the most about abortion are the same ones who complain about subsidized birth control. Do the not realize that better access to BC actually REDUCES abortion numbers? They are also the ones who complain about welfare costs...so you want these unwanted kids to be born and starving?

>>714465778
Also, if you were PRESCRIBED a pill, it was not the morning after pill. There is a difference.

>>714461098
you don't understand how up shit creek we are with global warming.

BORN TO DIE
WORLD IS A FUCK
KILL EM ALL 1989
I am trashman
410,757,563,209 DEAD COPS

>>714466098
Seriously, this guy doesn't know anything.

>>714466025
>passive aggressive

Definitely female

>>714456222
But it's not just with YOUR body, it's with your child's body

>>714455512
It should be encouraged.

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>>714460309
This video always makes my dick hard. The only way this video wood be better is if the doctor smashed it like a bug .

>>714466148

It's funny because they'll end up saying "well don't have SEX if you don't want a BABY!" before turning around and whining about why no one wants to have unprotected sex with them.

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>>714466121
What a retort! You sure showed me!

>>714466231
It's actually not, for the same reason a tape worm in your intestines isn't something you need to protect.

>>714455512
OP's mom should have tried it.

>>714466098
Every time you have sex, there is a chance of pregnancy. How are you not comprehending this?

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I'm nihilist, nothing has value. that means humans too. why would I care if there is one less of them.

>>714465779
>I forgot that common sense was a fascist principle.
Only when you force it on people.

>>714466302

I bet you're actually steaming red rn though. Dontcha just hate those sluts using birth control to not get pregnant while they have sex with all those Chads?

>>714455577
at least you got dubtripdubs

>>714466377
I understand that. Now stop ignoring me and tell me what this backup plan consists of. Do you expect a chick to take Plan B pill after every fucking-sesh?

>>714466438
Fuck yeah I do you got me steaming boiiii

>>714455512
I dont know to be honest
My friend fucked up at 14 got preggers, the boys fater was rich as fuck so he paid the abortion without her mother concent which is needed here. So she got abortion without her mom knowing, boy and his paps moved to US and she is keeping it secret. And i just feel like wtf

>>714466537

>pretends he's not mad

>cries himself to sleep

>>714455512
I usually have my legs in stirrups when I have mine.
Does that count as a stance?

>>714466577

Well I mean...14 is too young to have a kid anyways? Plus giving birth could have killed her depending on her size.

>>714466488
How bad does she not want a child? If she has it in her stupid little head that she is going to abort any baby she ends up with, take the fucking pill. That is exactly what I'm saying. It is not to be used as a contraceptive, but would you rather deal with some fucking cramps or a doctor tearing up your insides?

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>>714465998
Birth control, in American society, refers to contraceptives, not abortion. You can argue word structure all you want, and I agree that, purely semantically, you have a point... but words mean what society uses them for, unfortunately.

>>714466592
You're a master troll, anon

10/10 I mean it

I'm so pissed right now

>>714466025
Err, femanon, you didn't give any context to your post to let me know that.

And I was just commenting on my experience of abortion vs. plan B. You know, as a female.

>>714466377
I know you find this hard to believe, but there are teenagers out there in denial, who believe they are using the rhythm method correctly, and don't want to have sex, but they want their best friend who wants sex to be happy, so they do have sex.

>>714466705
Honestly? The abortion was less painful than what I have to go through every month. Fuck you.

>>714455512
Should be mandatory for population control. If you needed a license to have a baby, we could control the welfare niggers that have nothing to do but have chain pregnancies and shit out babies all their lives (that the rest of us have to support because they can't). If we don't get a handle on the unchecked breeding of the dregs of society, our species is going to fuck itself retarded.

>>714459201

faggot

>>714466705
"Use the pill". Ok, uh. Can you be quiet and let me explain this to you?

Using the pill every single time you have sex will fuck up your body more than having an abortion on the VERY LOW OFF CHANCE that you get pregnant. Birth control has a 99% success rate. It will do more harm than good to take a pill that gives you a mini abortion daily/weekly than anything else.

It's like you're stupid and don't understand that plan b IS a mini abortion. You're literally trying to advocate that people get small abortions every time they have sex on the off chance that they MIGHT be pregnant. On the 1% chance.

>>714466714
>words mean what society uses them for

Me. I'm society. Society is me, so... I'm just going to go ahead and stick with the *correct* definitions of "contraceptive" and "birth control."

That other anon is retarded and cannot be helped. He doesn't even realize that all he needs to do is change his words around to make his argument sound. Topkek

>>714466705
We're back where you guys started...if the woman IS on the pill, and it fails, then what? I think that's where the disconnect was...you keep saying 'have a backup' and everyone else is like 'we have one - abortion'. Abortion IS the backup, for when contraception fails.

>>714466705
If you expect a chick to experience a period after every time you fuck, I can't argue with you. Do you not understand how unrealistic that is? Have you ever been in a relationship? She'd just constantly be on her period. Maybe your dead bedroom situation has you convinced that because you only do the deed once every 3 months, it's worth it to take the Plan B pill every time. But for us chads doing it every day, there's no way I'd expect her to take Plan B every single time we have sex. And wtf are you talking about with making sure you don't wait a month? An abortion is just a stronger Plan B. Is taking an abortion on the 4th day evil, but taking Plan B on the 3rd day ethically fine?

>>714455512
I say drop it if it's of no benefit to you at the moment you know.

>>714467146

I'm also society, and a girl! So actually, I know more about BIRTH CONTROL, as literally everyone else calls it, than you! :) Go back to your teaching "job" k?

It is largely responsible for a nationwide decrease in violent crime since the 1970s. Imagine if we didn't have Roe v Wade in this society that praises women for fucking some dirtbag thug and becoming a single mom.

The grammar in this place is really terrible.
/b/ is starting to look like it's nothing more than a bunch of teenage faggots.
If you can't use proper grammar, then don't come on this website. It's not facebook, nor it is Nickelodeon.com. It is /b/.
I can understand the grammar jokes, like "Trolling is an art." That stuff is funny, I don't have a problem with it.
However, if I see one more faggot start a sentence without a capital letter then I will lose faith in this board.
If I see another person switch "Their, They're, and There" or "Your and You're." I might seriously consider not coming back to it anymore.
If you post with bad grammar in this thread, you're not trolling me. You're just proving yourself do be a dumbass. Regardless of anonymity, you're still out there somewhere. Whoever you are, you're a dumbass.

>>714466886
Jesus. How many times do you have to go through that before you change your methods? Seriously? I've been in a relationship for 5 years without any pregnancy scare. What the fuck are you doing?

Really? They have sex because their "best friend" wanted it? What are you talking about? So, because this little bitch wanted to "fit in", a baby dies in the process?

Awe. Tell me more about your cramps. Every female deals with it. No one really cares. Including me. The fact that you had an abortion and encourage it, I hope those cramps made you contemplate your life. Maybe you should have just ended it. No more cramps.

>>714467234
Seriously I have sex with my boyfriend every day, if he tried to make me take plan b every single day I would dump him for a more sane, less psychotically retarded person.

>>714461858
Damn that looks fun.

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>>714459201
Wow, false equivalency much

>>714467362

Please don't breed. I don't want my taxes paying for your mud bastard.

>>714467123
"The pill", as you call it (Plan B), is essentially just two doses of regular birth control pills. And I'm not sure that anon wasn't just espousing the latter.

>>714455512
It should be avoided as it may harm the potential for the women's ability to have children later on in life. Other than that it's fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWE_M0CX9So

>>714467432

>"I've been in a relationship for 5 years"
>is too stupid to realize that plan b is a mini abortion


K.

>>714467477

Sorry I'm out having sex and you're just fucking your hand.

>>714467539

...

Birth control pills regulate your hormones so you don't ovulate.

Plan B gives you a mini abortion.

They're not the same. At all.

>>714457798
How about '60% of pregnancies', Einstein.
Do you think that miscarriages are births too?

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>>714467362
But birth control, by your own, allegedly colloquial definition, means contraceptives.

Condoms are contraceptives, are they not? Hey, I use those!

I guess we know about the same when it comes to "birth control," eh?

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>>714455512
I THINK THE JEWS THAT TROLL THIS BOARD USE IT AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO RACE BAITING AND RELIGION BAITING.

>>714455512
> /b/'s honest

>>714465677
dubs if truth.

and dat full house

>>714467708

Condoms = things you put on your dick so your sperm doesn't get everywhere

Birth control = actual medication that changes your hormones and doesn't allow you to ovulate.

Yeah, totes the same bruh.

>>714467234
Well, my sex life is just fine, but the difference is, if I become pregnant, I'm not going to kill it. I'm going to actually go through with it and raise it like a responsible adult should. I have never taken a plan B and never plan to. If you can't accept what sex has to offer, then you really need to change your methods of sexual contact. I hope your girlfriend likes swallowing.

>>714467695
Miscarriages were not included in that statistic, but okay. You can just not read the article, I guess.

>>714467669
Same hormone, just a different dose. You can actually use two birth control pills as Plan B, if you have a friend nice enough to let you bum a couple. It keeps the zygote from attaching to the uterine wall.

>>714467832
Just gonna go ahead and quote your (or her) own post here...

>Birth control, in American society, refers to contraceptives, not abortion.

>>714467832
condoms are a form of birth control, as they can control whether or not a birth occurs. meds and condoms just work in different ways

>>714455512
less humans on this planet the better