>2016 >Not owning a firearm Why don't you own guns?

>>713643995

Shit eu laws

I don't have the time to invest in learning how to properly store or handle one.

>>713643995
post your own with a time stamp.

>>713643995
Because guns murder people and I hate that people aren't bullet proof.

I'm lazy and if I'm going to spend more than like $20 on something it's going to be for a different hobby

>>713644114
You have time to dick around on /b/. you have time to learn to use a firearm safely. its not rocket science.

>>713643995
Uhh. Because If God wanted us to have guns we would have been born with them attached to us.

>>713644066
Which country do you live in, and what are the specific gun laws? I feel like I understand the memes better than the reality.

>>713643995
love broomhandles
shit guns
but I love 'em

>>713644299
There is always self defense. A model car cant stop anyone.

>>713644114
How much is there to know retard. I feel like guns are common sense, but Maby I'm just smarter then most? Doubtful but the more people I meet the more I realize how much common sense people lack.

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Wat this?

>>713644320
This. You DO want to be shown the do's and don'ts by another actual person, rather than just dicking around by yourself, but it's fairly straightforward.

>>713644544
>C96
>shit gun

Pick one

>>713644392
If he didn't want us to have them, he would have stopped us from inventing gun powder.
You are human, war is your craft, embrace it.

>>713644221
People murder. Guns are inanimate.

>>713643995
They all fell off of my fishing boat when I was out in the ocean

>>713644738
A modified chicken chucker. It launches miniature rubber chickens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv1hQLSwefo

>>713644745
>>713644114
Also youtube is helpful in showing you how to properly and safely operate a firearm.

>>713644571
I can't imagine myself being in a self defense situation that required a gun.

>>713644918
Kek.

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>>713643995

I live in a safe, first world country.

you cant expect me to have any amount of money at any given time

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Pfft
You guys need some REAL guns

>>713643995
There's some major faggotry going on in that collection OP. But then a Red Ryder - I'm on board now.

>>713643995
Because guns are for cowards.

>>713643995
no need or want for one.

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>>713645064
Common sense. FUCK. Don't point it at people, keep your finger off the trigger, use holow points in your home (or most situations for self defense) much more but I feel like this is not a hard concept to grasp. Are you Mormon, or did you have gay parents that sheltered you wtf

>>713643995

I own many.

Told my dad we'd go out and buy a gun if Hillary won the election, since it seemed like it was becoming a tradition. Oh well.

>>713645096
I have been there. It doesn't give you a week notice like Microsoft Outlook

>>713645096
If you expected to be in a car accident, you wouldn't have gotten in the car in the first place. You hope you don't get into an accident, drive safe, take precautions, and wear your seat belt.

A defensive tool is the same way.

Defense aside, shooting is fun.

>>713645283
Get a job

>>713645448
How so?

>>713645159
No place occupied by humans is 100% crime free. Safe is a sense of statistics but your sense of safety can easily fall through. French police sure felt safe when terrorists shot up france and killed willingly unarmed police officers.

>>713644114
If you're this autistic, we don't want you having one either...

>>713645617
If she won, you would have had little no nothing to select from. Panic buying hit before the election. Even then, you may have been able to get a firearm for the time being, but ammo availability would have tanked harder than it already did prior to the election.

>>713643995
For what reason would it be a good idea for me to post all of my unregistered firearms on the internet?

>>713645567
>Common sense
It mostly IS common sense, but you don't want to leave gun safety to sense tbh. It should be explained, obvious though it may seem. People are pretty retarded.

I have better use of my disposable income then to stockpile weapons ill use the first month then nearly forget about.
Id rather buy more video games, computer hardware, Tools and travel.
Id like to own something to play with sure, But a gun would rate low on the usefulness or personal enjoyment scale.

>>713645693
>>713645733
When have you needed a gun where you couldn't have gone with another route

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>>713643995
because i am not a nigger

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>>713645733

kek. The more guns the public owns, the higher the crime rate. If you keep a gun in your house, the chance of a family member of being killed by firearm more than quadruples.

I love that ameritards will defend guns, blind that they are being sold their deaths, by massive corporations.

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>>713645448
Please enlighten me faggot!

>>713643995
i was put on a 5150 and i can't legally buy a firearm for 5 years

little do they know that once those 5 years are up i'm immediately going to buy a gun and kill myself

>>713645096
better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

go to /k/

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>>713645448
Says the upper-middle class liberal cuckbag who's never been in a situation he couldn't apologize his way out of...

Stop being such a self-righteous pussy.

>>713646036
>The more guns the public owns, the higher the crime rate


Care to back this up with any actual evidence?

>>713646249
When have you needed it?

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2 of my USPSA pistols

>>713644114
>I don't have the time to invest in learning
This thought alone is why people don't learn anything productive in their lives and never progress themselves to any success beyond the state of career choices they're in.

You have been given a lifetime and yet you still managed to tell people that you don't have the time. That's what's truly fascinating about the lies people tell themselves. Dare you try to even dissect their daily lives and what they do on their leisure, and you'll find their whole lives they see themselves as a victim incapable of being granted any opportunity making up this wall they can't pass through. As if there's a system that's always working against them, bringing them down, pointing the fingers at everyone but their own. People like that are all too common.

If you can't find a way and something brings you down, you get right back up and you make a way.

>>713645940
Chances are I wouldn't find what I wanted anyway. I wanted either a some derringer or the Taurus Judge. Around here it's all rifles and shotguns.

>>713646036
So why is it that more people are beaten to death by feet and fists, knives, hammers, bats, etc than firearms?

Also look at the stats for any known gun free area such as chicago. Guns were banned for sale there as well as no carry being allowed, yet once it was ruled unconstitutional, violent crime rates dropped.

The ones committing crimes arent the ones who obtain guns legally. Its the repeat felons who own them illegally and do illegal things with them.

>>713643995
The water gun at the bottom wins the cake. Lmfao. Fill that bitch with pepper spray.

>>713646113
I got one you can have I sort of "found" it anyways. It would be interesting for it to pop up someplace else. And would help to desculate some shit around here

>>713646113
We'll see how you feel in 5 years, kid.

>>713643995
Who said I don't, friendo?

>>713646036
The corporations selling guns have tied buying their product to patriotism and blind tradition and pay a lot of lobbyists to keep it that way.
Blind consumerism that would be scoffed at if it was any other product.
People who defend owning enough value guns to put their children through college but scoff at me for having a steam account valued over 5k are retarded.

>>713646364
>When have you needed it?

i haven't, but i have it if do need it.

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am i cool guys

Money is my problem why, but I'm looking at a nice 12 gauge for my first. Then when I'm 21 I plan on getting a sig sauer p2022 9mm and then for my concealed cary I plan on getting a springfeild xds .45

>>713646401
Shadow 2?

>>713646422
FuddVille?

>>713646455
Its a chicken chucker. see >>713644918

>>713645981
I haven't but I cant guarantee it wont happen. There are countless reports of defense with a firearms.

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Because I'm a twink trap that identifies as a polymorphic autistic otherkin without thumbs

And Hillary said they were evil

>>713645981
not those anons, but I've been there a few times... El Paso is a rough fucken place sometimes, and there are plenty of other rough fucken places in this world...

Also, Afghanistan, but I won't count that because war is a special circumstance...

I wonder how many of the victims of Chicago's rampant murder rate wished they were legally allowed to shoot back......

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>>713646113
that sucks

I've got one you can use /b/ro

we could video tape it and I could post it online

obviously not in this shit hole full of white knights
where you at?

>>713646758
Whats your current budget?

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>>713646729
step up nigga

>>713646855

If you really think that shitty meme makes a good point please gas yourself.
Its fucking depressing people unironically post that

>>713646654
The guns will be around a lot longer chief. And they serve an actual purpose.... so there's that

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>>713646729
>maverick
>wasr
>basic bitch ar

no

>>713646113
There's significantly better ways to kill yourself than shooting yourself, double carotid asphyxiation is probably the easiest.

>>713646684
>>713646852

If I applied that logic to everything I'd be spending thousands of dollars left and right on things i might need.

Trying to justify things you want as a potential need is pretty dishonest

>>713646729
Not with that soccer mom haircut and pube stubble

>>713643995


Because I'm not a paranoid schizo and live in a low-crime area.

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>>713646948
>deagle
>baby deagle

>mfw only a /b/tard would be this stupid

>>713643995
Nice, I like the (arsenal?) AK with black furniture, the obligatory nugget, and the broomhandles

Also is that an MRO on the 15-22?

>>713647157
I like collecting guns and IWI/IMI are some of my favorite manufacturers.

>>713647096
No one is saying prepare for every tiny detail of life, but if the time comes you need to defend yours and you can, then what? Even then, shooting is just a fun hobby.

>>713647042
Cool. this doesn't at all address the substance of the post you replied too at all tho
No one is suggesting a gun cannot serve a purposes

>>713643995
Because not every country is america, you fucking retard.

Well currently I have a little more than $150 but the shot gun I'm looking at is about $300 and a choke costs about $100 more (My state requires a choke for turkey hunting). But once I graduate college I'll be able to buy those hand guns cause I'll have a job. I did my research on the shot gun I like, a mossberg 500 pump action. I've shot it and like the feel and weight and I'm sold on it.

>>713646654
Interesting viewpoint, even if it's retarded as shit....

I own firearms not "because patriotism", not "because consumerism", not because of any of the reasons you listed. A firearm is a tool, and I have need of it. Thus, I own firearms. You don't think mechanics owning wrenches are "blind consumerism", do you? You don't think surgeons owning scalpels are "blind consumerism", or mail carriers owning mail trucks, or people keeping small kitchen fire extinguishers, or barbers owning scissors, or etc?

Also, Steam holiday sale is coming!!

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>>713647254
>IWI

>hello Mrs. Feinstein

>>713646364
>When have you needed it?
i honestly hope i never need to end someones life, but if it comes down to it and i need my gun to protect my life i will use it.

like that other anon said.

better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it, kinda like draino.

>>713647400
Do you Eurofags unironically not wish you could have guns? I'm very liberal by American standards but I still own a few guns.

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>>713647029
No fucks given

>>713647185
The black one is the new VEPR that just got imported. Arguably one of the most durable AKs to exist.

15-22 has a Bushnell TRS-25 equipped.

>>713647400
>living in a country that you have to bend over for the government.
>not having a guaranteed right to arm yourself to face tyranny.

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>>713643995
I do own guns (and want more)

Currently:

Marlin Model 60 . 22 LR
Winchester Model 320 .22 LR
Bersa Firestorm .380 acp auto
Raven MP-25 .25 acp auto

>>713646523
it's already been over 2 years and every night i go to sleep i dream about not waking up. it's not fun living with schizophrenia

>>713646477
>>713646899

i'm in cali

>>713646113
the fuck is a 5150?

>>713647324
>>713647528
I have a hard time believing that situations where you need to defend yourself and both factors of drawing a firearm wont escalate the situation further and the situation isn't already escalated to the point where becoming another shooter wont make you a target for law enforcement are common enough to be an actual justification for owning a gun.

Gunfags are pretty annoying with how defensive they are about guns

I never said people shouldn't have guns, I just find the self defense justification retarded for the extreme majority of gun owners.

>>713647537
Its strange to consider someone living in the west to be in such a shithole that they desire to own tools meant to kill other people "just in case"

Its entirely foreign to people living in safety to think about guns and the role they should fill in our lives.
Its strange for us to consider people to think about people feeling they need one.

>>713646857
I live in El Paso, my whole life, and am still here. In the NorthEast, supposedly notorious for criminal activity, and I have no qualms about walking down the street late at night or anywhere in my city for the matter.

Roughest thing was growing up in school with a mix of thugs and military brats who had something to prove, and even then it wasn't much of a big deal.

>>713647677
Got damn, anon, when are you going to invest in a real caliber!?

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>>713646113
you have anons willing to help you anon

why wait 5 years?

>>713646477
>>713646899

>>713647949
police code for insane person. i had a schizophrenic episode, nothing bad happened it's just legal stuff

>>713648072
youtube search self defense, defensive shooting, etc. Nobody asks for this to happen to them. Stop victim blaming.

>>713648093
Fair enough I guess. I have kept wondering whether the European gun hate was sincere or a meme. I really don't know anything about crime rates in Europe though.

>>713648288
Are you fucking illiterate?

>>713648102
I never went downtown at night without my piece. Twice I needed to pull it, never did I need to fire it, thankfully.

More of the crime happens in Juarez, which is the good thing about El P, but being a white boy with a Northern accent in El P makes you a huge f'in target in a place like that....

>>713648171
Ah. Poor guy....

Anon get help. Talk to someone. I can't stop you from doing what you want but there are alternative options.

>>713643995
Parents

Might own one when I move out

>>713643995
There are people that dont have a safe full of firearms? I have a safe full, plus one in every location where I exist.

I will never be one of those faggots that posted here getting wrecked by a home invader.

>>713648072
>until it happens to you.

and no it hasn't happened to me.

>>713648093
>tools meant to kill other people

I guess that's why euros ban assault silverware

>>713648566
i'll get to it eventually. i have 3 more years to decide

>>713648072
Most people will never experience a fire in their life, but are smoke detectors and fire extinguishers "too extreme" for home owners?

>>713648429
Wen't to Nashville once with my dad and he had to pull it once. Crimes happen everywhere and it's better to have something to protect you. He didn't have to fire it btw.

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>>713648105
I'd like a Sig 1911 one of these days...

>>713648811
Unless you also drive a hummer in case you might get in a car crash you're being incredibly dishonest with your justification.

>>713648907
I'd bet literally any amount of money most people don't have a fire extinguisher in their home.

Also smoke alarms are actually precautionary, if you wanted to make a comparison it'd be like wearing a vest.

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>>713648906
What a waste of time. You're given an out that you wanted and all you have to do is pick the type, and you back out.

Go cry for attention someplace else, kid.

That's why people don't help each other these days....

>>713643995
Chicken chucker is based, therefore OP is based

>>713647470
Its kinda retarded to say a viewpoint is retarded in itself because you feel it doesnt apply to you personally.
Doesnt apply to you? Not talking to you then

Its worth considering literally the entire population of people who over indulge in firearms consumer culture while thumbing their nose at people who they feel do the same with other hobby's would all agree that they dont overindulge.
And if this apply to you, You'd not probably agree you overindulge regardless.
So why fucking reply?
You disagree this population exists? You are retarded then.

>>713648745
My safe is hidden, bolted down, hard to move from its location, I have alarms, cameras, phone alerts, and I can see my local PD from my house. Breaking in wouldn't be a bight idea.

>>713643995
fuck you nigga
i've got a g42 and that shit is nice

>>713649134
Wouldn't a good defense be a good offense?

>EU

>Don't live in a shithole where i need to defend myself from niggers.

>>713643995
I live in downstate New York. I just don't want it bad enough.

>>713649416
No, every single defense course taught by a non-crazy person will preach and drill the concept of deescalation into you

>>713649505
What part of EU?

>>713648907
amen brother.

>>713649634
The mongoloid parts.

>>713649628
Okay but what if the person confronting you is becoming increasingly more hostile and threatening your life? I do think fire arms should be a last resort but I still think it's better to conceal a fire arm for safety.

>>713649387
Under rated. Too many people want a G43. It holds the same capacity, has .22LR like recoil, and .380 gets the job done.

>>713649134
seatbelt ya mean in every car to protect you?

are you going to kill yourself just in case you might die?

>>713643995
Live in northern ireland... took me almost 18 months to get my .22lr and shotgun license. Its a pain in the fucking tits here if you dont own land or are a member of a shooting club

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>not carrying guns on you every second of the day including to PTA meetings

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>>713649822
>mfw if your arm was on fire you would literally catch yourself on fire putting in in your clothing

Not legal in my country

Thieves have'em anyways

>>713649822
Depends on the situation, in very close range basic grappling skills will be infinitely more useful. You have to be aware that any time you introduce a weapon there's a chance of it getting used against you, or getting disarmed or some other kind of fuckup.

I certainly wouldn't want to try to pull a gun when someone is less than 10 feet away.

>>713646948
Digging that SCAR 17. But get rid of that Tavor. I say that because i work at a funstore and IWI fucking wont do shit when the polymer around the barrel nut shits out. We had a customer that shot his a fuxk ton. Got the barrel so hot the polymer started to warp and his 3moa (which is terrible anyway imo) went to about 10moa. IWI told his ass to pound sand. Kinda shitty for Customer service.

>>713649278
I don't disagree the population exists; Glock fanboys are some of the worst kinds of gear-queer tacticool faggots in the world, and AR15 tacticool queers are just as bad if not worse....

But suggesting that the entire point behind firearms is some sort of huge consumerist industry that hides behind patriotism is simply absurd.

Like I said, it's a tool, and 90% of people own them because they are in need of a specific tool...

>>713649931
Do you have to get a license for all parts of northern Ireland or just the parts near cities and stuff?

>>713649931
jesus christ, i thought my wait to get a suppressor or short barreled rifle were shit.

>>713650103
sorry to hear that. Leftists in my country think that they dont need them and say the police will protect us, yet are anti-police, and at the same time cry foul every time a criminal does something wrong because of "white privilege" keeping them down and forcing them into crime.

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>>713649962
No one to shoot in Wyoming though.

>>713650165
why?

most gun fights take place at 10 ft or less....

any liberal autist with a couple weeks of training can draw and place at least 2 shots on target within 2 seconds

>>713647368
To be fair, there wasn't a whole lot of substance in the original post to begin with. But guns are hardly the only commodity that have a sales strategy behind them...

>>713650490
>most gun fights take place at 10 ft or less....

Care to back up that claim or would you prefer to just post a picture of your ass?

>>713649900
fucking thankyou, the g42 is a concealed carry wet dream. the thing never snags and it's ability to just unload makes it much better than the g43

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>>713650192
They're Jews, what do you expect?

>>713650394
Right before Trusts went out the window i e-filed 4 form 1s. 1 on a Draco and 3 on AR lowers. Got them all back after 3 months. Blew my mind. My Osprey45 took 9 months. Apparently it all comes down to the investigator that gets your paperwork.

>>713650165
But you have to agree that pulling a fire arm is much more easier for someone smaller or someone who is out of shape and can't act effectively by grappling skills. I can see how in close range it would be harder to use your gun but that's up to the user on what they think is more effective.

>>713645362
>he don't got any flywheels
smh

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>>713649962

>>713650605
fbi.gov

look it up for yourself

>>713644114
buy a safe. put guns and ammo in safe when not using. when using, safety is always on until you are readying your gun to pull the trigger. don't point your gun, at anything you aren't willing to shoot. don't have your finger inside the trigger guard unless you are aiming at the thing you want to shoot and the safety is off. inspect your gun before doing anything involving the gun.

it's not that fucking hard

>>713647429
I just bought a 500 ab for 195 after tax with a 19.5in barrel

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>>713650752
...and then there's the least free state in the USA (new york)

>>713650689
I got my SBS stamp in 32 day, m MPX took 7 months (yet sig took 10 to ship the stock), I have a silencerco Sparrow SS in jail since early June. I plan on picking up a couple Hybrids soon, just don't have money to burn right now. Plus I hear wait times will be 14 month as of now.

>>713650326
>But suggesting that the entire point behind firearms is some sort of huge consumerist industry that hides behind patriotism is simply absurd.

When I find someone suggesting this I will tell them they are being absurd.
I dont think I suggested this at all. We are in perfect agreement that this is wrong

>>713650522
Honestly I dont much care about someones opinion of how good a post when they entirely failed to read, Understand and reply to a simple 2 sentence post on 4chan so spectacularly.

>>713650192
damn that really sucks. I havent had a problem with my tavor yet but ill keep that shit customer service in mind.

My SCAR 17 is currently my favorite gun I own. Made me like FNH over H&K.

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>>713650947

>shall not be infringed

>>713650704
If you ACTUALLY care about defending yourself you should probably look into getting into shape rather than saying "fuck it" and buying a gun and another 24 pack of mountain dew.

Even someone with 1 day of practical jiu-jitsu or judo coaching would be at a significant advantage over someone with none.

>>713650930
I'll have to look around more I guess. I don't really want to buy online cause family members and friends have and most of the time those guns have issues with them.

>>713648429
I can understand downtown is usually a haven for hobo's, drug addicts, and criminal activity in every big city. Most of the time it can be avoided though depending on who you're with and your form of transportation to get by.

But for Juarez, just having a bullet alone can land you 20 years in prison. There a giant sign before you enter Juarez "No More Weapons!" That place is a whole different picture, since so many homicides happen there that the Mexican government doesn't report it to any global statistics because they don't want to look that bad.

I'm sure you know by now that El Paso is a big city with a small town personality, and many people around here stay here, which is why a lot people in the Fort Bliss area end up marrying the locals, starting a family, and retire here. This is basically a city to retire which isn't a good thing for job opportunity since everyone wants to avoid spending anything when they retire. I think the worst thing that can happen in El Paso to the average resident is having your home repossessed for missing payments. If you came back here today, you'd see there's a shit ton of home expansion in the far East side (that's what they're calling it now) passed Joe Battle.

Still, having a gun on you is a reassuring feeling no matter where you go, but if you're by yourself, I can understand why you need it.

>>713645981
I don't know how to green text so I'll just be a faggot and say the day the niggas took over. Kek. It's actually been more then once that it would have made me safer in public. I've been hit in the face at a red light and threatened with a knife in traffic. Cop even said he woulda bought me a cup of coffee if I put the fucker on the ground. Washington btw. Mutual combat laws and all sorts of shit like that here.

>>713651189
you can buy guns online that are perfect in every since of the word

you obviously dont know how to ensure the firearm youre looking to buy is in good working condition

take a more knowledgeable person with you or

>>713651131
and how will that defend you from a crown of BLM protesters protesting the faces of innocent people into the ground?

>>713651461
When has that fucking happened and why would you think firing into a crowd would ever be a good idea under any circumstances.

>>713651006
Fucking millennials man

>>713651581
see the vid of the guy that got beaten by a group of people and his car stolen because they thought he voted trump?

Go be a victim somewhere else

>>713651131
But that's not always an option for people. I know that there is no excuse for not being in shape but what if that person decides to start getting in shape and on his/her way to the gym they start to get threatened etc. It's more practical to buy a small concealable fire arm and take a training class which is provided by a lot of gun shops for a cheap price.

>>713651189
Yup mine if I don't pump back fully it doesn't reload everytime but just need some parts that have lost some of there tolerances. If I could recommend any shotgun for a good price I would say a mossberg maverick 88. I really liked mine

>>713650442
Don't you fags have the most guns per capita of any state? I think I read that someplace.

>>713650605
>be me

>it's late and I'm out for a quick run

>suddenly I loud *click and *feed back

>I look and see two males standing under a street light

>one is holding a megaphone

"Hey cunt give us your wallet and cell phone or we'll go over there and beat them off you" the man says.

>I'm judging the distance luckily they are about 30 feet away from me, you know the common mugging distance every criminal follows.

>I laugh and continue home.

>>713651707
It was actually because he was being aggressive and calling them niggers. He was never in a defensive position, he started that shit and escalated it. He could have easily avoided the whole situation.

>>713651131
>I lift every day
>i'm pumped
>i don't own a gun
>break into my house and i'll fight you

just don't have a gun and make it a fair break in.