>Atheist >Morals Pick one, and ONLY one.

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>>708929726
They are closed minded, not every atheist is lacking in moral characteristics.

>>708929939
How do people still fall for this bait?

>>708930043
I know it is bait, just like your post.

I willingly participate, it is enjoying to me.

>>708929726
jesus christ I hate her face

Question, why is this girl always associated with this?

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>>708930577
>meme
>this new here

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Reformed athiest here. Ask me anything.

>>708930550
I always thought she had a fuckable face

>>708930947
What do you mean reformed?

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>>708929726
What's your favorite subway sandwich? I gotta go with ham and cheese.

>>708930947
what about your own mortality scared you enough to manifest the faith required to blindly follow fairy tales?

I choose step on slave morals

>>708931027
I think they hate the association of her face with these threads.

>>708930891
Yep. Every single day. This nutjob just won't give in and respect someone's way of life, I swear he's Christian.

>>708929726
This shit has retroactively ruined Never-ending Story for me. When I was a kid it was my favourite movie. Now it's just being used as a symbol for dipshits who can't deal with the fact that there are people out there who don't need a god to be happy. People who aren't going to call themselves Christians and pay lip service at a boring ass church once a week just cause we're either afraid of hell or really keen on heaven. Seriously, fear of punishment and promise of reward is not a good reason to devote your life to a book written thousands of years ago by homophobic, racist, sexist, slave enthusiasts.

>>708929726

Logic > Morals

>>708931027
She always creeped me out as a kid. And it was because of this scene. She looks at the camera and begs Bastian to say her name. She might as well be peering into your soul and yelling at you.

>>708931209
1/10 heres your (You), lurk moar.

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>>708929726
Are you back on /b/ again OP?
I thought you had died!
>had kinda hoped.

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>>708929939
Define morals, if there is no God. You can't.

>>708931034
>What do you mean reformed?

I am no longer an arrogant atheist.

>>708931091
>what about your own mortality scared you enough to manifest the faith required to blindly follow fairy tales?

>what about your own mortality scared you enough to manifest the faith required to blindly follow fairy tales?

I follow no fairy tale. You assume based on bias. Almost all atheists think of themselves as their own personal god. I know this to not be true but a blasphemy.

>>708931222
>caring this much about some shitty bait

c'mon son. could've used your trips for good

>>708929726
define "morals"

>>708931091
Not who you responded to, I believe in God without believing in the word of man.

It is only logical there would be a source for our universe and existence, yet the words men write in books speculating Gods thoughts and demands are most likely falsehoods.

There are many intelligent men throughout history who think as I do, Issac Newton for example.

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>>708931222
God doesn't care whether you need him to be happy or not. He exists nevertheless.

>>708931264
Why not both?

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>>708931264
>"Science is right because it uses logic!"
>"Logic is right because....?"

Fucking checkmate, you hypocritical atheshits. You cannot ask a Christian to prove the existence of God without the bible until you can prove the correctness of logic without using logic.

>>708931503
>arrogant atheist

He doesn't believe in unsubstantiated bullshit that causes a lot of unnecessary social harm. He's so arrogant!

>>708931491
Doing the right thing, being an honest person.

The classic definition is a search away too if you like.

>>708931719
Then explain why it matters if people are atheists or not if God doesn't care. If God doesn't care, why do you care?

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>“The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you”
>Werner Heisenberg

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OP is such a deep ignorant he has never heard of humanism. You should consider educating yourself.

>>708929726
>Pick one
Easy, atheist.
Already has morals anyway.

>>708931503
>>708931671
What are your views?

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>>708931671
>a source for our universe and existence

Give me one good reason why existence as a whole can't have always been, on some fundamental level. Not just our observable universe, but whatever came before and sparked it and potentially many other universes.

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>>708931481
I've been busy. Unlike most of you I have a life that's going somewhere, guided by the light of God.

But I need to continue this work in some of my free time, atheists have very few actual arguments and I need to show that as much as possible.

>>708929726
This whole atheism/religion debate is such a teenage thing to do, I despise anyone who hasn't grown out of it yet.
If you're not agnostic kill yourself.

>>708931819
>implying god is necessary for logic and not the other way around

>being this retarded

Yup, definitely a theist.

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>>708931896
>the right thing

And how exactly do you define the "right thing."

Why is being honest the "right thing?" What if someone disagrees with your definition of righteousness?

>>708931908
Why do atheists always rage at the mere thought of God? (Not talking about religions and text, but the idea of God itself?)

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>>708931503
>blasphemy
I like that.

>>708931819
Okay fine I guess logic is out the window. So explain why you don't walk off cliffs? What is it that tells you that you can't fly? We aren't using logic here so maybe you can, you might be special.

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>>708931635
I don't have to, the bible already did.

>>708932143
this

>>708932115
>agnostic

i.e. atheists without balls.

if you claim you don't know whether or not there's a god, then by definition, you don't believe. atheists don't deny the possibility of god(s), just the proof

>>708932261

Reported for cp

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>>708930577
Because people like to ruin things

>>708932324
>atheists don't deny the possibility of god
yeah that's why whenever someone mentions god on the internet they get comments like "god isn't real idiot"

tell me this isn't the case I dare you you dishonest prick

>>708931491

A retarded postulation as with all theist crap.

Morals are a subjective set of principles, you abide by.

>>708932253
You assume this is rage? I simply want proof. I'm not saying god doesn't exist, you'd have to be an idiot to assume that. I'm just saying you can't prove it. There really is no definitive proof for or against god.

>>708931503
>all atheists think of themselves as their own personal God

No, because the definition of atheism is not believing in ANY God. Narcissists think of themselves as a God, but you assume that all atheists are narcissists.

And that's biased as shit, friendo. Ponder your own hypocrisy before you ponder the meaning of your own existence.

>>708931721

Because the only good morals are the one you KNOW why they are what everyone wants to call "good".
Knowing is always better than believing.

"Why am I doing this ?"
"Because I know it's the best option" > "Because I believe it's good / I've been told it's good"

Why did we allow beliefs for such a long time when we always had the potential to know ?
>Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur
The world wants to be deceived, so let it be deceived.

So the real question is : are you weak ?

>>708932253
same reasons religious people reflexively rage at the mention of atheists. people get pissed about conflicting world-views. mention democrats in a room full of republicans for the same effect

>>708932351
>Not remembering Global Rule 7.
And no, that was not cp.

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>>708931908
God does care. He cares that you obey him, both through worship and through the laws of morality that he has outlined for us.

Whether you are happy or not is not His concern.

>>708932324
Your post might possibly be the dumbest shit I have ever read on 4chan. You can't seriously be that stupid, can you?

>>708932056
Energy must have a source in order to exist.

Thermodynamic laws state energy cannot be created or destroyed, yet our universe had a definite beginning according to modern scientific studies, therefore it must have a source.

Beyond this reality something must have given the universe physical laws similar to how a programmer writes code for a simulation.

At least be open to the idea of a beginning, I am not completely sure how or why we are here, but I am certain we had a beginning in essence.

>>708932573
>using retarded teenagers' comments as a representation of all atheists

who's the dishonest prick? dumbass

>>708929726
MUP DA DOO DIDDA PO MO GUB BIDDA BE DAT TUM MUHFUGEN BIX NOOD COF BIN DUB HO MUHFUGGA

>>708932814
>I sure shut him up! HA! He doesn't even realize I didn't use a single argument!

>>708932912
see when feminists do that it's a no true Scotsman fallacy when you guys do it it's refusing generalization

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>>708931974
>Already has morals anyway.
If you are an atheist, I'm sorry but you don't have morals.

Moral=/=fait or religion.
Morals are not the benchmark of religion, and atheism has nothing to do with being a decent human

/thread, kill yourself.

>>708932906
>using laws of our observable universe and asserting they must hold true of all of reality, even what we know nothing about

way to go

I'm plenty open to the idea of a beginning, but to say it's a necessary fact is pure conjecture.

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>>708929726
Easy.

Morals.

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>>708932115
>Look how above it all and smart I am
>strong convictions are for retards

>>708931819

There's no such thing as "right" or "good".
Cause > Consequence

Why don't you spill the milk ? Because it's "bad" or because you don't want to waste it ?

Do you need your mommy to know why you should or shouldn't do anything ?

>>708932699
>No, because the definition of atheism is not believing in ANY God. Narcissists think of themselves as a God, but you assume that all atheists are narcissists

No, I do not assume that everyone who is an atheist is a narcissist. That would be you assuming something which I did not imply to your own end. I use the term god in this sense metaphorically. You wouldn't understand.

>And that's biased as shit, friendo. Ponder your own hypocrisy before you ponder the meaning of your own existence.

Stop assuming wrongly and contemplate your lack of wisdom.

>>708932195
Helping others when they are in need, being kind and honest, treating others with respect are the foundations of stablke societies.

They are probably in the wrong if they are going around breaking windows and hitting people, probably should be kept away from the general public.

>>708932745

You manufactured cp. Have fun being v&

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>>708932143
God is the only absolute truth. Atheists made up this thing called "logic" and pretended that it somehow magically was more truthful than God.

>>708933242
I meant
>cause -> consequence

To avoid any confusion.

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>>708933275
And what if someone disagrees with you? Why are you right?

>>708933079
That's not how it works friendo. Morals don't require religion, religion requires morals. I'd like to point out now that there's no difference between not being a bad person so you don't go to hell, and not being a bad person so you don't go to prison.

>>708932673
Then be open to the idea and keep searching for the truth regardless of what it is. : )

>>708933034
lol wut? is this a fucking feminism thread now? name me some high-ranking modern university feminist whose arguments have been misrepresented by some big name atheist.

or better yet don't cuz no one gives a shit.

>>708933209
>>strong convictions are for retards
well actually they are

>>708929726
Atheist. Morals are a social construction. So is religion. Troll got it right for once.

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>>708932610
*tips fedora*

>>708932741
Why dont get upset?

I only want to explore new ideas and reexamine old ones.

>>708933342
>God is the only absolute truth

Prove it

>Atheists made up this thing called "logic"

Gettin' a little obvious with your trolling, anon. Pull it back. You were doing so well.

>>708932708
See
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>>708929726
>what is philosophy

Religious people follow theological morals. Atheists follow virtue ethics.

>>708929726
Hows highschool?

>>708933405

You are not right, or wrong.
The thing is, if someone doesn't agree to this he's not willing to be part of the society.

That's simple.

You can build a logical moral, no need for a god for that, if you think the contrary then you are incapable of difference Good and Evil or "superposition states"
You really need someone to tell you what is right and what is not?

>>708933445
Nobody said I wasn't open. If I got hard proof either way that would be it and I'd be on whichever side got their actual irrefutable proof out. Unfortunately both sides at the moment have giant holes in them.

>>708933189
Everything has a beginning, it seems absurd to state otherwise.

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>>708933406
Under atheism, there's no such thing as a bad person. You can rape a 6 year old and that's totally ok!

>>708933730
True enough, though I am sure one day we will know for certain.

>>708933860
That is false. Rape is still unethical to atheists

>>708933850
>Everything has a beginning

If that's true, as you say, then where did God come from? To say he didn't need one is special pleading.

It's entirely possible that we could be a part of an infinite regress of causes, or that at a fundamental level, existence is eternal. In either case, reality would have no "beginning" or "creator", it simply "is".

>>708933248
>this butthurt over his own apples to oranges analogy

You literally said "every atheist thinks of himself as a God", and in this context that translates to "every atheist thinks x". That's a generalization based on personal bias, because I am currently an atheist who does NOT think of himself as "God" thereby proving your broad generalization wrong.

>bi·as
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noun
1.
prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair.
"there was evidence of bias against foreign applicants"
synonyms: prejudice, partiality, partisanship, favoritism, unfairness, one-sidedness; More
2.
in some sports, such as lawn bowling, the irregular shape given to a ball.
verb
1.
cause to feel or show inclination or prejudice for or against someone or something.
"readers said the paper was biased toward the conservatives"
synonyms: prejudice, influence, color, sway, weight, predispose; More

>>708933860
Are you retarded or something?
if you need an example:
Law is separated from religion, but works in most cases.

>>708934041
What is a hole in atheism?

>>708933248
Shut the fuck up. I would say your desert god is dead, but he never existed in the first place. Stop trying to force this down our throats.

Religion is the cause of ALL the death and destruction in this world. You and your desert god need to both go away so the rest of us can advance civilization.

Read "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins if you don't believe me.

>>708934108
Everything always existed.

I would need proof to believe that too.

It is a fun thought though.

>>708933860
Except it's not okay. No one says it's okay to rape people just because they're atheists. It very well might be the case that they don't believe they're going to hell. But no one thinks it's okay. They do however know they're going to prison if they get caught. But you know what, most atheist don't do it not because they fear prison but because it is objectively a bad thing to do wether you believe in god or not. Even atheists can work out they're ruining lives by raping kids.

>>708929726
Christians, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics, Buddhists, Hindus, let's all put pour differences aside for a moment and shit on the Muslims amirite?

never said I have morals

>>708934227
Proof there is no God without substantial evidence.

Same as the other.

>>708933860

I don't rape childs, why ?
Because I know it will harm the child.
Because I'm grateful I haven't been raped myself.
Because I'm part of society.

Who fucking cares about MORALS ?

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>>708933727
>You really need someone to tell you what is right and what is not?
No. We all need God to tell us, because any "morals" we make up are meaningless.

>>708934359
The ones that want invasion, historical blackouts, and cultural dominance?

Yes.

The rest?

No.

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>>708934051
Prove this. Do you speak for all atheists?

I can say with confidence that rape is unethical for all Christians.

>>708934219
Define "works"

>>708934534
Did god tell you not to drop your glass ? No, gravity teached you a lesson.

>>708929726
atheist 10/10 times, who gives a shit about morals

>>708934310
Fun, simpler, and without the logical contradictions inherent in assertions of deities. Of course, though, I'd want proof before believing it as well.

>>708934456
>asking to prove a negative

Is this guy for fuckin' real?

>>708929726
good bait but...theists aren't moral either

Following orders without questioning them or wondering if following those orders is not using morality.

The moment you decide whether to follow orders, you are using your own moral compass, just as Atheists do.

Checkmate

>>708934534
So if god told you to take slaves from surrounding villages and how to treat them, you'd say slavery is alright? Look up Exodus 21.

>>708934227
Atheists believe very specifically that there is no god. While this may be true it also can't be proven. They could very well prove that the Christian belief system is false but proving that there's no god of any variety is an immensely harder task, and frankly I don't see how it would help anyone even if they did manage to prove it. Say that atheists proved conclusively god didn't exist, the only result I can see is widespread depression.

>>708934645
>the rest?
>No.

Agreed, all 15% of Muslims that don't want those things are fine.

>>708934647
Rape is ethical in some religions/belief/cultures and in others it's not.

I repeat, there's no such thing as "good" or "bad". This is pure fantasy.

Reality is and forever will be : cause -> consequence.

You study the world around you, you question yourself about what caused the things you don't like and then you do your best your fix it.

You can also pray, I don't mind you, unless you're not paying your taxes.

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>>708935012
Yes.

>>708934534
>The moral we make are meaningless

well, then tell me what are your "transcendent" morals, so I can understand why you believe that morals needs a god and we can argue.

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>>708932074
>Unlike most of you I have a life that's going somewhere

Ha ha! You have a life? I refuse to believe that.

>>708934647
And yet there's still mass allegations of rape by priests in churches. Apparently they didn't think it was so bad. Probably thought if they prayed they could be forgiven. Now there's a major flaw in Christianity, the thought that anything can be forgiven but suicide (Only cause you can't ask for forgiveness after.) Wow all that forgiveness for fucking atrocities must be super convenient.

>>708931491
Even with God you don't have morals...you just have God's opinion on what's moral. It's morality by bald assertion.

>>708931069

subway restaurants smell like puke. fuck that shit.

>>708934647
Sure, because that doesn't exist pederasts priests
>sarcasm obviously

>>708929726
The sense of moral superiority the typical christian feels is no better than the sense of moral superiority the islamic extremist feels when he's sawing off a hostage's head.

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>>708935499
God cannot be wrong. If he believed something that was wrong, it would become right.

>>708932074
>I've been busy. Unlike most of you I have a life that's going somewhere, guided by the light of God.
>But I need to continue this work in some of my free time, atheists have very few actual arguments and I need to show that as much as possible.

^^^^ this guy is good. I'd call this the masterful re-bait.

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>>708934534
Nah, there are particular sets of behaviors that lead to a more desired outcome.
Just look at game theory. It gives you a better outcome in the long run to be nice if possible, and only respond with force if attacked first.
Game theory is really cool.
Once particular sets of behavior are identified as being the optimal ones to take in a particular situation you codify them, and that's where you get morals, norms, and taboos from.

>>708935035
It's almost impossible to prove the non-existence of something. Besides, I'm not going to waste either of our time arguing with someone who has a mindset built around faith. Faith doesn't need reason by definition, and an argument doesn't help anything and makes both parties angry.
Besides, its not like I have a moral imperative to save souls or anything.

>>708935460
It's a matter of perspective, if you believe that eternal salvation is promised to you, what does this world matter aside from being a means to that end?

>>708935754
nope. try again newfag

>>708935754
Excuse me I was only 3 of those numbers not all of them.

>>708929726
>be this much of a shut in
>bait religious twats ironically

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>>708935396
>His life is so shitty, so utterly hopeless, that he can't even imagine what it's like to have a future
>He's such a failure that he doesn't even know anyone with a life, so he thinks everyone is like him.

It's never too late, friend. You can still get your life turned around. I recommend going to church to start.

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>>708929726

The religion matters. Some peoples worship their own evil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG8WqEyXIyc

>>708934726
Basically that most guilty people go to jail and most innocent people is free, this is for my country, I know that for example USA have the biggest prison population, mostly blacks, thats clearly a bias of some sort, so I only speak from my pesrpective, obviously the Justice system have holes, a lot, but that doesn't mean that not work at all.

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>>708935861
>desired outcome
Here's the problem. Without the guidance of God, no "desired outcome" is better than any other.

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>>708935754
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>>708935679
That is senseless, why humans are imperfect if your god is perfect? a perfect beign only must create perfect creations. I'm wrong in this?

>>708935861
I like this comment as I'm replied to twice. Once pointing out how my mindset must be based on faith because I defended religion. And once again for attacking religion and more specifically pedo priests. Faith is bullshit friendo I want hard evidence or for everyone to shut the fuck up.

>>708934726
this. we're currently fighting a theocracy in the Middle East.
>Shariah law is the union of Church and State

Unless you're saying that the separation of church and state is what "works in most cases", in which case:

We, in the US, have had a serious problem separating the two in the last century. This is why laws passed regarding abortion ALWAYS include exemptions for "religious beliefs". And why states have been able to pass anti-LGBT laws in the last few years. Because homosexuality is against their RELIGION.

In either case: it doesn't "work".

>>708935754
Nope, for me just were two

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>>708936162
>that's clearly a bias of some sort

So you worship logic, but you can't even look closely at evolutionary theory long enough to see that blacks are naturally more violent and have lower intelligence?

Jokes aside, do you guys also think it'd be a pleasure to terminate religions and believers, followers ?

Do you think that transhumanism will help to put an end to the world's best joke ? Or is it another problem to be dealt with ?

>>708935679
Exactly, it's morality by fiat. This is one horn of the Euthyphro Dilemma, that whatever is good is good because God says so, meaning that what is morally right is a arbitrary opinion.

The moment you say that God is good, by your own judgement, you are exercising your own moral compass, and therefore are no better than the Atheists. If you say God is good only because God says so (through the Bible), you have abdicated your moral judgement, and therefore have become amoral, aka NOT moral.

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>>708936457
>a perfect beign only must create perfect creations
Says who?

We are what we are because of God's will. The human race is the way it is for a purpose, we just don't know what that purpose is.

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>>708935861
>It's almost impossible to prove the non-existence of something.

"You can't prove a negative" is self-contradicting; it is itself a "negative" statement, making the claim that it is not the case that one can prove a negative.

atheists still try to use it as an excuse for not supporting their assertions that God doesn't or is unlikely to exist, not realizing that if this fallacy were true, it would refute these assertions - yes, including any assertion of the likelihood of God's existence: "It is not the case that it is likely that God exists" or, if you want to conveniently define "likely" as meaning something like "over 50% chance," then "It is not the case that it is not unlikely that God exists."

In fact, "negative" things don't objectively exist; it is just semantics used in logic; and literally any truth claim can be a "negative" statement, such that anything can not not be true, represented in logic as ~~p or ~~q.

But you want to say that you can only not prove something with an odd number of "nots" or negations? Prove it. Oh, you can't.

This shit is just another example of how atheists stupidly just believe and subsequently mindlessly regurgitate whatever their bias-confirming heroes like sam harris, lawrence krauss, or sean carroll say, all of whom are not logicians or philosophers, and whom know next to nothing about what even constitutes a true statement.

atheists are just a bunch of whining, non-thinking degenerates, and you need to get off this board.

>>708929726
here's your morals
sextoyget.com/sexylittlehoe.htm

Shit, we all agreed that this was b8 but we fell for it anyways. This was a collective failure.

>>708936263

The better outcome is the one that fits the best for you and "future you".
Pleasure on the longer term.

>>708936263
The desired outcome is for humans, no god has to be intervening, humans make the desired outcome

The fact that I'll never pump my hot seed into the wet, gaping womb of the Childlike Empress is proof that there's no God.

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>>708936648
Better to trust God than yourself.

Atheists believe themselves better than God. It's a ridiculous delusion and I think their narcissism will destroy our civilization.

>>708936853
It was bait sure, but I was entertained. Which is why I came to 4chan. In the end I'd hardly call it a failure.

>>708936981
best* please don't mind my english, it's not my mother tongue and I've had a visual migraine for the last 5 hours.

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>>708936981
So selfishness is the ultimate morality for you?

Glad I live in a society built on religious values, not in your rapist hellscape.

>>708936853
>Shit, we all agreed that this was b8 but we fell for it anyways. This was a collective failure.

Good bait is good bait. I Lurk Moar so I know he or she is unsuccessful more often than not. It's a volume business.

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Eat shit!

This is now a Coppercab thread

>>708936797
There is no proof of God. A lack of proof means that something is unlikely to exist. That's tge only logic anybody needs.
In all honesty, the weight of evidence rests squarely on the shoulders of the religious.

>>708937097
I will say without hesitation that 80% of Atheists definitely are better than God if he exists. 80% of Theists are better than God also btw.

>>708936576
>Evolutionary theory
>naturally
>kek
We are the same specie, also, a correlation does not imply causation, human behavior is almost completely related to the enviroment, only a little is related to DNA, thats explain why in decent countries the prison population is more adjusted to the area, city, country population.

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>>708937701
>I can't read: the post

>>708929726
not this fucking thread again. These threads are the reason I try to never go on 4chan while you americans are awake. boy did I make a mistake today

>>708937308
The true selfish also cares about others because others will always be part of his life somehow.

I care about my personnal pleasure which can imply other's pleasure too, i.e : it feels nice to be helpful etc, my brain rewards it with dopamine.

I'm also a really curious person and I want to witness the best and the worst humanity can achieve in my lifetime.

>>708938058
Fucking /thread

>>708931491
Simple, mental standards and feelings that are built on social happenings and society

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>>708937864
>We are the same specie

So are Chihuahuas and Dobermans.

Morphological differences have arisen between different populations on the planet. Is it really that great an assumption that psychological differences may have arisen as well?

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>>708938058
keep spamming coppercab pictures

>>708931491

There's two types of morals, without any divine institution:

1) Morals of the self (e.g. what you choose to do, for your own sake of wanting);

2) Morals of the whole (e.g. what's objectively best for each other individual around you).

By reconciling those two classes of moral concepts, one can define their own code of morals.

>>708936720
>Don't know whar that purpose is
so, why have faith in the uncertainty?
>says who?
>God does not commit errors
Nature is a bitch, the universe is almost a life killer, humans are flawed in various ways, your god have made errors if exists, is a must be.

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>>708938058
OH, well where the fuck are you from then?

>>708938331

Oh come on, try harder please, you're bad at faking it and at this point I want my money back.

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>>708938333
Trips!

>>708929726
>retarded
>organized religion
pick both at once, or pick neither

>>708938058
This. These threads were never funny and even by bait thread standards (which are low) are always fucking awful.

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>>708938424
>your god have made errors if exists, is a must be
Where is the evidence for your assertion? God made the universe exactly as he wanted it.

>>708931671

Not quite. The universe exists because it must. Nonexistence is actually, logically impossible. The true absence of anything can never be possible (as all systems are, at their simplest point, binary - in order to have 0, you need 1), and thus the universe must exist.

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samefag

>>708930947
>Reformed athiest here. Ask me anything.
Did you have an aneurysm?

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>>708938457
>no refunds

You're an idiot. These people get off on wasting your time.

>>708929726
Here's the truth. Yes, morals are built from religious teachings. Without religion, we wouldn't have morals.
So why does the catholic church sit on billions of dollars of real estate, priceless works of art and financial assets that have been accumulating for centuries - yet they stand by and watch half of the world starve?
Why do countless priests abuse their positions of power and the children they are trusted to care for?
They break their own rules because they know that religion is built upon lies. Their morals, their 'code' is a sham.
This is why we don't hear about ethics and logic any more. They leave no wriggle room for politicians and lawyers. Ethics are not built upon the bronze age ramblings of sheep farmers. Ethics are built upon logic, and therefore immutable. I'll take ethics over 'morals' any day.

>>708929726
Since there is no God, morals HAD to have been invented by humans. We invented both morality, and fictitious gods.

>>708938698
This time I was only one, last time I was 3. Up your game newfag.

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>>708938834
>There is no God
Prove this.

>>708936797
>"You can't prove a negative" is self-contradicting;

This is a maybe:
You can't prove the existence or nonexistence of a reality warper aka god.

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>>708938331
You read the entire comment?
enviroment, thats the key for humans.

>>708939037
No one has seen him, ever. Can you prove that Odin does not exist? Can you prove that the FSM doesn't exist? What criteria would you find to be sufficient to prove that God doesn't exist? You think you are pretty smart, tell me what evidence would convince you that God, or Odin, or Godzilla doesn't exist.

>>708938058
it astonishes me people still fall for this thread after what? 2/3 years now of this cancer being posted almost daily?

>>708938649
>God made the universe exactly as he wanted it.
You have any evidence of that assertion?
if you detect a "fallacy" doesn't mean that your argument is instantaneously truth

>>708939037
>prove this
prove that your god exist

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>>708939753
He asked first fag

>>708938780
underrated post

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>>708938780
>never heard of the code of hammurabi
>thinks religions invented codified morals or do it better than secular sources

>>708939877
708938834 was not my comment

>>708939340
So basically what you're implying is that everything that hasn't been show NOT to exist must either exist or be presumed to exist?

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@708939121

The bible is more evidence for my beliefs than you have for yours.

>>708940108
That's exactly what he's not saying, you silly cunt. He's pointing out how retarded it is to ask for proof that anything doesn't exist. You can't prove a negative.

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>>708940319
>A book is proof of what it claims.

>>708939954
Didn't say they invented them. But they do monopolise them now - because people find religious morals easy to break. There's so many ways around them - prayer, confession or just disbelief. It's easy to tell other people to follow christian values when you know they don't apply to you.

>>708940319
kek

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@708940499
It's evidence. And the fact that it exists is more evidence in the "God is real" column than there is in the "God is not real" column.

In other words, you lose, and atheists are all basically children.

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@708940767
>The bible = a comic book

kill yourself.

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>tfw IQ too high to be an atheist

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>>708940775
>Not knowing how to properly reply to posts