Loli doesn't "literally mean" little girl.
It literally means absolutely nothing. It doesn't translate to any meaningful word. It's short for "lolita", which also doesn't mean anything but is a name.
The name Lolita is the diminutive form of "Lola". Just like "cigarette" means "little cigar", "lolita" means "little Lola"
Lola is a bastardization of Dolores, which is a Spanish name that derives from "Santa Maria de los dolores" which literally means "The suffering Saint Mary"
Lolita became associated with pedophilia in the Russian novel Lolita, named after the main character, who was sexually molested by her uncle at the age of 8
Also, get your shit together with your ages. 18 is only a meaningful number in America and a few other countries. In some places the age of consent is 14 and in some it's 21. Saying "over 18" is "legal loli" is just as ridiculous and calling 13-17 "teen loli". The real terms are:
pedophilia (a lasting attraction to pre-pubescents)
hebephilia (a lasting attraction to early adolescents)
ephebophilia (a lasting attraction to late adolescents who aren't of legal age)
If you're going to be a pedo, at least be a smart one.
I make sure to research my hobbies. I'm an on-and-off hebephile. Fortunately modern psychology states that unless an interest persists for 6 months or interfere with your life it's not a disorder. It's perfectly natural to, from time to time, find yourself sexually interested in strange things. You can have a burning desire to fuck a dog and it's perfectly normal and not zoophilia so long as the desire goes away before 6 months is up.
That's how I am with early adolescents. The 11-13 year old range is usually of no interest to me, but every now and then for a few weeks I'll find myself unable to get off to anything else.
At the moment I'm no on such a swing. Faithfully fapping to 18+ and cat girls.
Saved for future rectal trauma inducement.
Maybe it is. 90% of the time I'm not interested in little girls, but from time to time I am. I researched it to see if something was wrong with me and found out that since it didn't last 6 months I wasn't considered a pedophile by psychologists.
Of course the moment I had the green flag like that I stopped being paranoid about it and deleting all evidence. Now I proudly keep a loli folder on my computer and masturbate with no self-doubt when I'm in the mood.
tbh, who cares so long as the girls aren't being forced into these situations? age=/=maturity=/=consent. Its a weird zone in sexuality, but many Hebe/pedo/ephebophiles just look at pictures which are (arguably) harmless.
Thing is, (at least in Canada) that will not hold up in the court of law if they find those materials on your computer. I am pretty sure it is the same way in the USA as well. I'm on your side /b/ro, search safe, stay safe.
Only recently. Aspergers used to be its own disorder but they lumped it in with autism in the DSM-V
I have to agree with this. Even when it's real children, after the pictures are taken the damage is done. Redistributing the images does no additional harm. Plenty of people say that you're "creating a market" for it, but you can't honestly convince me that a market is being created when you aren't paying for the product. So long as it's distributed for free, there's no monetary incentive.
In the USA there's no federal law so it's based on the state. In my state (Kentucky) animated child pornography is entirely legal, but anything depicting a real girl (even if it's a girl over 18 who was modified using PhotoShop to look younger) is illegal.
That's why I only keep animated child porn on my computer. I'm not averse to the idea of staring at real child porn if it were free and I wouldn't be caught, but I don't even know where to start looking for it and I don't want the FBI knocking on my door.
I'll only make one addendum to real child photography in that if there is reason to believe the children are being abused, coerced, bribed, etc. that it still be handled as criminal. I only say that because while it may not create a monetary market, it creates a market of ideas. Non-consensual abuse (no matter the age) is bad, but on the same note when parents are threatened or sentenced for, say uploading a picture of their kid having fun at the beach nude that ludicrous.
By animated, you mean 2d, or literally like gifs of real girls? I think the first one, but maybe not?
I've got a bit. I'm not a huge fan of the 3D look so my library is limited.
By animated I mean 2D. I guess I should have said "drawn", but animated also includes anything created with a 3D modeling tool.
I'm torn on the idea of photos of abuse being considered illegal. I'm of the mindset that THINKING about anything isn't bad, it's acting on those thoughts that's bad. The moment you try to censor thought you're overreaching and being overly controlling. I don't want to live in a world where thoughts are monitored and censored.
I mean: we'll ban porn because it's too violent, but we allow people to watch the Saw trilogy? That seems WAY worse than bondage to me.
I gotta get me a 4chan pass. Fucking captchas driving me crazy. "Click all pictures of billboard", click all four and three more show up. Click them and another shows up. Click it and another shows up. STOP WITH THE FUCKING BILLBOARDS
First off, I'm not comparing horror movies to CP. I'm comparing horror movies to pictures and videos depicting a child being abused. Following the logic of your former post ("non-consensual abuse (no matter the age) is bad") I figured being a child was only a minor factor -- it seemed you were against the idea of abuse being depicted in any form.
That said, horror movies depict torture and murder that's FAR more painful than pulling someone's shirt off and slapping them across the face. If you're worried about creating a "market of ideas": if someone copies what they see in child porn, you get a child with mental issues. If they copy was they see in a horror film, you get a murder.
If you're concerned with preventing ideas, you should concern yourself with preventing the ideas that do the most damage first.
Legacy? Is that an extension or something?
I think its less about thought policing, but rather limiting the effect these photos might have on susceptible minds.
I'm also not talking about bondage, that too can be consented to. I'm talking specifically about kids being hurt against their wills.
Saw movies are also experienced as an "act", as in, no real harm is coming to these people.
What if a consenting 8-year old child put on an act and pretended to be abused (make-up to simulate a black eye or red marks on the skin, no actual harm came to the child)? Would this be ok?
Conversations are hard on /b/
Sweet. I'll have to check that out
I have not read it. I was told the plot 8 years ago by someone who also didn't read it but read the plot on wikipedia. So my knowledge of the book is both vague and third-hand. Apologies for not knowing the plot.
Regarding the thread:
I find myself interested in what I would consider typical Japanese anime-style loli content, though never of the heavy sexual sort. I absolutely hate children in real life and have literally negative attraction to them. Just something about me, but I definitely enjoy the cutesy aspect and other such things about Japanese style animated (drawn, sketched, 2D) loli. And let me be clear, I typically mean on the latter side of the age spectrum anyway. I don't even go in the 4chan loli threads because it's usually filled with two things I hate; toddlercon, and extreme hyper sexuality in the images. I only like cute, and latter-aged loli of the animated variety.
Thoughts? Opinions? Criticism? Questions?
Not OP, and not particularly interested in giving a throw-away email. Not even particularly interested in sharing my identity. It never works out well for me.
For the life of this thread I'm an Aspergian with a time-to-time interest in little girls. When the thread is over, I'm just some random anon who you'll never talk to again.
Child abuse that you see on the internet isn't an act, it is more often than not actual abuse; a legitimate crime. In Saw what we are seeing are acts being performed willingly (and not really happening) and can attribute agency.
Hrm. Yes, since at that point it is tantamount to cosplay. I mean there are exactly those things done to adult women as well.
There is one societal sticking point that we neither have addressed, and that's the perceived inability for children to consent and the overall fragility and necessity to be overly protective of children.
The reason I bring this up now, is under these circumstances, I don't think there would be any way to convince the masses that "this 8-year old is acting this role" without, say, a bill of good mental health from a psychiatrist.
I should have done
for that post, because I meant for my image to go to the retardation of that giant line of auto correct issues, and for the actual text in my post to just be, well, a generalization in this thread.
You have a fucked up animation style of interest I guess, only shit like pic related I like.
Anyway, regarding the other anon wanting your email, I don't think he gives a singular fuck who you are, I just think due to sharing ideas, thoughts, and philosophies, he wanted to potentially continue talking to you outside of this thread for, still anonymous, stimulation mutually.
Are you opposed to this, anon?
I'm in the same boat as you good sir. I believe the attraction is to the "softness" "adorableness" in a doll-like sense. Something that you can hold or protect, something you feel is worth protecting? As opposed to bratty real kids? We are hard-wired to want to protect children, which could contribute to our desire?
I posit that no one, regardless of age, can be considered acting with absolute agency and consent. People change their minds ALL THE TIME as they age. A 40-year-old may think black people should be shot and attend a KKK meeting then when he's 45 realize that he was wrong and black people are capable of rational thought and invention just like white people. He might argue that when he was 40 he wasn't acting on good mental acuity and that his actions were due to lack of maturity and understanding of the full situation.
A child has the same acuity, awareness, and logic as an adult. The only difference is experience, which really just means knowledge of consequence. You may argue that a child willingly stripping off their clothing for a camera is being abused because "they don't understand what they're doing", but neither does a 30-year old stripping off her clothes. She doesn't know who will see that image or how it will affect her life. In theory she knows that there's a chance a future employer will see it and thus ruin her opportunity for employment, but starters: 90% of people in the porn industry don't consider this reality. Furthermore: this is only the tip of the iceberg as the image could be used as blackmail, could be photoshopped, or could be used in an attempt to justify a rape (clearly she's a slut). Saying that someone "understands" the consequences of their actions is basically saying they can see the future.
Also seeing an act is no different from seeing the actual event. You can say that watching a horror movie is different from watching an ISIS snuff film, but they both have the same effect: you witness a man die painfully. If someone is able to distance themselves from the event because they tell themselves "it's ok, it's not real" -- that's just a defense mechanism that works equally well on the ISIS videos. Nevada-tan murdered her classmate with a box cutter because she saw it on TV.
I'm not really interested in the pictures I'm posting. But OP asked for 3D. This is more my style.
Yeah mate, I haven't the foggiest. I don't mind a bit of sexuality or a bit of evident innuendo, but most of the images that get tossed around under the title "loli" here are grossly hyper sexualized, like pounds of semen dripping out of a girl with her tongue out and spreading her labia. Which, for whatever reason, just straight up disgusts me. On top of that, I've hated porn since one year after I started to watch it, and haven't since. That was early puberty, so basically, I've hated and haven't had any interest in porn for a fuckhuge amount of time. Well, fuckhuge to me I guess, I'm really just shy of 20 so, I guess I'm not all that old.
Oh and regarding my comment about innuendo or a "bit" here and there
Anyway, I hate children in real life because they look like shit, they're annoying as fuck, they're difficult as fuck, they mess everything up, I don't know many other reasons, they just plain old suck.
I don't know how to describe my interest in loli, but it doesn't seem to have any correlation what-so-ever to real girls, but then again, I said I mostly prefer latter-aged lolis anyway, which are generally in the category of mid to post-pubescence, which isn't a huge stretch from my own age.
In any case, they probably are still irritating as fuck at that age in real life. I always got along better with adults than my own peers too. What does that say about me?
As I was trying to mention before, and probably lost my train of thought on, I'm also an artist with a huge interest in photography and fine art nudes (adults, mind you.) and plan to get into that once I get a solid form of transportation (ie. car/ insurance). But that, too, isn't sexual to me at all. There's a whole host of appeal, and none of it feels the least bit sexual. W-What's wrong with me?
I'm like kind of okay with that image, but it's pushing the far end of my interest if you know what I mean. I don't have an aversion to sexuality.
If you're implying it's too old, I have some younger stuff. This is just one of my personal favorites.
Not sure how to feel about your post buddy.
I'm >>704497553 and as I said, I'm a photographer looking to get into fine art nudes, which I've studied and collected for years. In fact, I will eventually establish a site to collect all of my stuff for public use and consumption and the freedom of knowledge/ information. This, by the way, includes many things. Software, photos, etc. And I also intend to have artistic nudes of myself hosted there. Do I care? No. I don't think it should be seen as bad or taboo, and I certainly don't feel that way, so I don't care who sees it. Employer, mother, girlfriend, dog, who cares?
On that note, pornography isn't really the same, and has a more inherent degrading quality to it, so there's that.
Wasn't about age, it's just a bit sexual. I stay away from blatantly sexual images like 70% of the time, and the other 30% don't ever go super far into that aspect, if you know what I mean. She's fine as far as visible age or whatever, I mean it's a drawing.
On acting vs. real abuse, I'd say there is a crime underlying one and not the other. When people see pictures of real abuse they don't think "that's someone acting" they think "that is a crime having been commited". That there were legitimate consequences to those actions make them more reprehensible. I argue that there is a difference between act and reality.
We also try to control the flow of these ideas to malleable minds. We also don't make readily available equivalent "saw-like" images/videos to circulate and attempt to limit it. Snuff, for example is illegal rightfully.
"A child has the same acuity, awareness, and logic as an adult." This statement is empirically false depending how young we are talking. pre-teens rarely have the acuity to understand the consequences of actions long-term nor the significance of the action.
Sorry OP, I don't have any 3D stuff
I'm running out of content and honestly would rather be playing Overwatch right now, so that's all from me, OP
>In any case, they probably are still irritating as fuck at that age in real life. I always got along better with adults than my own peers too. What does that say about me?
It just seems as if you like the bodies of children (in an artistic way) but don't want anything to do with them in reality because of their immature personalities? idk
Yeah, sure. I can go with that, but I'd change the word "children" to "teens", when I said latter aged loli, I guess what I meant was teens. That includes young teens, but still teens.
Oh, and I swear I'm actually afraid of babies. My aunt thinks it's hilarious and when I visit the family she holds up her babies and chases me around with them trying to touch me with their arm or something because she knows it bugs me. I run the fuck away. :^)
Oh man im >>704496719
had I knwn thats how old you meant, then really I think you are attracted to girls/women at pretty much their biological point of ideal looks. Biologically women are meant to be attracting mates in their mid-teens at strongly as possible.
Of course this "perfect-time" is more of a spectrum. lets say between 15-25, so it would just put you on the youngest end of attraction that you would biologically be meant to be attracted to.
Right. Precisely. As long as we both know where I stand. Anyway I'm really not sure where my deep seeded hatred of "children" (My definition, lowest teens and below) comes from, but it does exist. Maybe I'll grow out of it? Fuck if I know man. I also like the idea of having a kid when I'm older, but I hate the life I'd live raising one if you know what I mean. If they could pop out at 20 I'd be happy.
Yes, what I like, both in animation and real life, is probably the most "natural" form of attraction, but even that is probably hitting murky waters in modern day legality and thought, so I tend not to voice that much. Not that there's anything wrong with it, just that everyone else probably thinks so, you know?
And you know what, I love that entire spectrum honestly, I really do. You could drop it to 13 but that becomes sort of subjective and about individual people/ drawings, you know? Depends on maturity, development, etc. etc.
Just to be clear, again, I'm >>704501203 and this fucking shit >>704501100 begins to hit the area of disgust for me. Why? I don't know, it just does. It starts entering that stupid hyper sexualized category for me.
Guess I'm 100% okay with pic related though.
Sexuality is too complicated, for example when I was like 9 or 10 I started to develop interest in older man (like 19-30yrs), but I didn't know loli and shit and I lived with strict parents. Nowadays I still miss that neighbor who used to live like three doors from mine, he was silent but nice and always looked at me in a weird way, but nothing more. Sometimes I think about that and, idk, bye, why I was so slow damn it...
Definitely hitting murky water in the law and societal perception. Considering its likely most men like some form of young porn in one way or another, it seems like a law to control men.
I have no sauce
I'm okay with it, but I can see what you mean. I think I like hyper-sexualized because I like my "regular" sex with my GF, and use porn as a kinda new experience.
>tfw no gf
>tfw wrote my entire post
>tfw accidentally fucked tab
>tfw starting over
I understand mate, and that's entirely okay if that's what you like.
Regarding this, I don't try to consume it but I also don't care. This has a lot to do with my opinion of nudity, namely, it's completely natural and acceptable and people shouldn't be so fucking god damn afraid of it. Once got in a fight with my father over this for walking around the house naked. Kek.
The novel lolita's name was inspired by Charlie Chaplin (a hebephile)'s second wife, Lita (Born Lilita). They married when she was 16 and he was 35, after meeting when she was 15 and him getting her pregnant.
This is the quintessential loli relationship.
Maybe off topic: Im just a closet pedo and to say "its animation" or "its not real" is funny but just to clarify, Im a law-abiding-citizen of earth. Honest. Also my pref-age range is between 5ish - 15 if i want jail time. but i also like adults too. (sigh) i hear sirens out my mansion.
Oh, and I should add to this:
I only like small breasts. I fucking hate big breasts for a shitload of reasons. One of them is probably my perception of "fat". Breasts serving the purpose of breastfeeding is entirely functionally sound whether they're small or large, because the difference between small and large isn't the glands, ducts, and other such things, it's literally just the fat reserves. And I'm in no way attracted to fat, so I hate breasts that aren't small.
Yeah 5-12 is without a doubt out of question for my interest. 13-14 is iffy and extremely subjective. 15-25 is the ideal range.
you have this aversion on real people too?
It's global. Real, drawn, doesn't matter. Yes. I absolutely hate non-small breasts 100%.
If I had to pick, I'd choose the same, but not needing to pick a favorite I like most sizes (up to like 36D).Overall I'm into petite like what you just posted, the best form give or take a little.
Right on the money sir! Don't want to derail the thread though
Did I mention Asians are the fucking best?
Extremely super cute petite Asian woman with small breasts <3. pls gib
Agreed. I wish I could even get one in her early twenties, but married so that's off the table.
Ha, you fell for the marriage meme. :^)
It comes with some good perks, but I wish I could sample some fine wine once in a while.
Oh? And what perks might those be, Mr. Anon-kun desu?
Companionship, anchoring, kind of a partner in the game of life?... I have a pretty good girlfriend, im a pretty hard guy to get along with but she puts up with me. Shes not anything what we are talking about.
I'm entirely confident that same set of perks can be rightly achieved with a decent mate regardless of marital status.
Oh, I'll clarify; we are commonlaw, so only married in the eye of the law, no civic union or anything like that.
I'm not familiar with these terms and their respective circumstances anon, could you please elaborate and educate me?
Basically we are married because we have lived together for more than three years and support eachother. The only real difference from marriage is that if we were to break up, the division of property can be messier since there is no legal right to divide it. Its a weird thing.
Does that not make things better than marriage? I hate marriage, I think it's stupid, I think it's pointless, and all it does is mean if you ever decide to part it becomes extremely difficult and fucks your entire life up.