This transgender woman has been sent to a male prison because

Male or female you were born with it.
Accept it

They should have special tranny wings in prisons. That way everyone's happy.

Weren't we told by the LGTWTFBBQ community this would never happen?

source or it didn't happen

>>694571380
Sorry I should have "inb4 bigoted replies"

>>694571422
Nope, that singles them out as different. If somebody identifies as a womyn then in my eyes they are a womyn. It's called living in a free society

>>694571577
It hasn't. Quit being so gullible, faggot.

>>694571577
Which LBGT leader said that? Oh we don't have a "leader", we're all individuals

>>694571664
Sure

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/trans-woman-arrested-pics-teen-target-article-1.2710611

>>694571670
It doesn't single them out. It places them amongst their own kind. Men go to a male prison, women go to a female prison, trannies should go to a tranny prison.

>>694571803
trans prison would be bomb af

bruh this isn't even a trans issue. if you're being a creepy ass person you're being a creepy ass person. period.

>>694571229
Because reality doesn't give a shit what you "identify" as. I can identify as the Queen of England, doesn't mean I am. Grow up, you fucking faggot.

>>694572132
Well said, Your Majesty.

>>694572132
except that's literally wrong if you have your identity changed on record. what are you 12

>>694572077
>female
>identifies as male
>taking pictures of women i nwomen changing room
>I identify as woman now so its okay
you fuckin jokes. Cut your dick off make a fake dick you're just as sick a someone with depression anxiety and blah blah blah. Thisi IS VERY MUCH a trans issue.

>>694572228
what the hell are you even on about?
you can't take pictures of people in changing rooms. that's the bottom line.
the gender is completely irrelevant to the crime

>>694571670
Yeah a I'm guessing this person still has a dick what if they put him in a female prison and he rapes another inmate and it's seems like it would happen considering he was taking pics in a female toilet

Andre the giant always said he'd come back as a woman.

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>>694571229
Criminals dont have rights, get over it.

>>694572410
>everything i disagree with is bait

>>694572386
most trans chicks have dicks. accept it

Stick with Stick, Hole with Hole. I don't see the issue here.

>>694572206
So if I wrote I'm the Queen of England in a god damn paper, that makes the Queen of bloody fucking England?

>>694572493
But if this fuck is taking pictures of females in toilets then he shouldn't be put in a prison with female inmates simple as

>>694572493
>most trans chicks have dicks. accept it
Then they're not transgender. They're transvestites.

>>694572206
Exept that's literally just tricking you into believing bullshit even more.
Your opinions aren't facts.

"identifying as..." is too easy.
I will also "identify as" a woman so that I can see them pissing, changing clothes and have a shower with them while my dick is rock hard?
Fuck that. Get your surgery first and then get your official new gender. Before that, deal with it. In silence, please.

>being trans
>supporting crimes like this because if you didn't, your community wouldnt be glorified.
>arguing that being trans is not a mental disorder

This is why no one gives a fuck about you or takes you seriously. Just like BLM

I identify as transdressingroomkin and you are LITERALLY TRIGGERING ME YOU BIGOT SEXIST PIG

>>694572206
And since when do records dictate reality? Writing 1+1=3 or that triangles have 7 sides on a piece of paper doesn't make it so. Are you literally this retarded?

>>694571229
looks like a dude, walks like a dude, quacks like a duck....guess what, it's still a dude

>>694571229
god damnit ugly fuck had to ruin it for everybody. This is why prostitution and CP should be legal.

>>694573216
Yes they are. They are literally taught now that if their opinions about something make them feel more comfortable than the reality of something, then they should ignore reality and live in imagination land.

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>>694571422
>prison
>happy
kek

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>>694571955
Are you serious? It would be constant triggering and tumblerinas bitching about their feelings and rights. Sounds like a nightmare to me.

>>694572206
There is a difference between de facto and de jure, you fucking moron. Long ago, it was law that the Earth is flat, didn't make it any less untrue.

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>>694572348
Most Trans people are still straight but just have a mental illness. If you say it's legally ok for a man who claims to be a woman to roam freely around the woman's dressing room, you're going to have more issues than if you didn't let them in.

>>694571422
I think prisons should be entirely solitary confinement. They should have access to educational resources, mental health services and work release but no tv, no playing cards with other criminals, no having sex, no working out and becoming a bigger threat to guards, no talking with other inmates and learning about crime and gangs. Why not?

>>694573956
>No having sex
Masturbation should be allowed

>No working out
Why the fuck not

>No talking with other inmates
No contact with other people can and will drive you insane. Meeting with family/friends should be allowed tho and if no family/friends then a counsellor

>>694571803
yeah, and it should be funded by taxpayers. the logical truth, no matter how you feel, if you have a dick you're a man, if you have a cunt, you're a woman. there are already perfectly good prisons for the two genders.

>>694574831
>No working out
>Why the fuck not
So they won't get stronger and more dangerous. Can't you read?

>>694571229
I'm a dog. Why won't people just send me to the pound hur durr

>>694573555
the saddest thing about that statement is its true.

>>694573555
Trips of truth.

>She

W E W

>>694573956
The original penitentiaries were. Inmates were locked in a room wih a bed, desk, shitter, and bible so they could start their pennance(originof word penetentiary) for their sins

However, turns out people tend to go a bit crazy with no human interaction over long periods of time.

>>694575161

Exercise is a good and healthy coping skill and a way to release energy and testosterone that may otherwise be used for more negative purposes

>>694574831
>Masturbation should be allowed
never said it wasn't

>Why the fuck not
like I said it in my post it allows the inmate to be more of a threat to guards and society when they are released >>694575161 thanks
No contact with other people can and will drive you insane. Meeting with family/friends should be allowed tho and if no family/friends then a counsellor
I specifically said mental health services meaning a counselor/therapist/psychologist. I also said educational resource which would some of the time mean a teacher/instructor. I never said no contact with family although I would restrict it, no physical contact and maybe even not allow in person conversation.
All I said was no sitting around talking about how to better commit crime and furthering their gang.

Keep in mind prison is a punishment. I think the only thing that you should be able to do is rehabilitate yourself.

>>694571803
and attack helicopters should go to an attack helicopter prison.

>>694575161
>Exercise is a good and healthy coping skill
yeah and so is producing art but they lost that privilege when they were convicted of their crime.

>>694575992
>>694575755
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>>694573555
Check'd n Respect.

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>>694575860
ChoppaChoppaChoppaChoppaChoppa!

Pew pew pew!!!

>>694575645
I think they went crazy because of the bible lol also I outlined in more detail the human contact here >>694575770

>>694571229

When I read this in the news this morning the first thought that came to mind was:

$10 says that faggot is a /b/tard.

>>694571670
They are different and definitely should be singled out. No one is born in the wrong body, but some people believe this anyway.

>>694575992

What is the purpose of imprisonment/justice in your opinion?

>>694576274
What it is? that is a complicated answer involving a lot of corruption.
What is should be?
Rehabilitation mostly. A bit of a deterrent for not committing crime as well, so a punishment on some levels.
What do you think it should be?

Soo if I'm ever caught doing anything I shouldnt I could just identify as a lesbian transgender woman , and go to a nice prison

>>694576501
I'm in line with Aristotilean views on this. Read Nicomacean Ethics.

If you argue for rehab, exercise, art, etc should all be allowed. Rehabilitation is shown to reduce reoffending much more than a purely penal sentence.

Retribution=\=Justice

>>694576865
>If you argue for rehab, exercise, art, etc should all be allowed
why?

>>694577056

How do you propose to rehabilitate prisoners?

Just fyi, I've been working in psychiatric and drug rehab facilities for the past 3 years after studying criminal justice.

Not that that makes me an authority on the topic, but I've done my research

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>>694571229
You are a huge faggot.

>>694577056
Because arguing in favor of prison being for rehabilitation but taking away all those outlets is like arguing in favor of NASCAR but you have to push the cars around the track, you dumb faggot.

>>694577358
What I was getting at.
>>694577268

If rehabilitation is the goal, usef and successful techniques should be used

>>694576865

It's a fact that 100% of criminals who are killed never re-offend, anyone convicted of murder, rape or violent assault (with significant evidence and beyond doubt) should be taken behind the court building and shot.

>>694571229
honestly you shouldnt even get the chance to cry gender rights. just right in the fuckin oven

Yeah people just want to go to prison so they can get ripped and learn some nice skills.

They don't care about being imprisoned.

>>694577268
provide them with educational resources and nothing to do then when they get out provide them with job placement and halfway house in a different city than they are from/ committed the crime in. Also like I said in the previous posts provide them with psychiatric help. This includes help once released. I think a counselor would do a much better job than a PO.

>>694577358
>NASCAR but you have to push the cars around the track
I'd watch that

>>694571229
I agree, he should have just been euthanized.

>>694577494
>>694577494
And people wrongly convicted? Women aho accuse men of rape after poor decisions made when intoxicated? People who commit murder in a fit of rage when catching a spouse cheat etc? People who commit crimes because they are mentally unstable?

Check out the "bikepath rapist" from Buffalo, NY. Dude spent like 20 years in jail for a rash of rapes he didn't commit.

>>694577465
>If rehabilitation is the goal, usef and successful techniques should be used
how is art and exercise and "etc" useful and successful?
honestly asking. I don't know.

>>694577494
>>694577944
Point being evidence is circunstantial sometimes and "beyond a reasonable doubt" doesn't always happen. Even true criminals walk because of that stipulation

>>694577966
Exercise is great. It releases endorphines, allows people to set goals to achieve, uses energy that may otherwise be redirected negatively, and can be good for anger management.

Art is a form of self expression. It allows some that don't like talking about their issues to get them out. It can also be used in employment/careers. Woodwork, painting, writing, etc.

I work at a teen drug rehab facility, before that an adolescent psych. ward.

Both places working out, team activities/sports, art, anger management, and communication improving were huge

>>694577675
They don't want to go to prison but once they are there they do not learn nice skills they learn how to commit crime better, they learn how to fight, they learn how to make improvised weapons, they learn how to live in an environment controlled by gangs and they get ripped. Then we release them early because of overcrowding and they go back to their hood ripped and with a higher standing in their gang and start using those things they did learn.

If we don't allow them to fraternize with fellow criminals but instead allow them to study for a degree or trade and provide them with psychiatric help and then support once out in a new region they will use those skills instead.

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>>694571229

Pls stop.

>>694573555
>>694573173
>>694572907
>>694572206
>>694571229

>literally

>>694572480
Right to silence

Right to attoreney

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>>694573555

This MAN makes sense

>>694578313
>It releases endorphines
prison should not be fun it should be productive
>uses energy that may otherwise be redirected negatively, and can be good for anger management.
could anger management be taught by them having to control that energy and manage it. especially when they are in an environment where they will only be hurting themselves by exploding. Allowing them to get that energy out in a physical form in just reinforcing violent/ aggressive behavior and not teaching them coping skills.
>Woodwork, painting, writing
sounds good like I said before education for a degree or trade should be encouraged.
>I work at a teen drug rehab facility, before that an adolescent psych. ward.

>Both places working out, team activities/sports, art, anger management, and communication improving were huge

Not prisons, those kids weren't sent there because they were violent adult convicted criminals.

>>694578378

Yea, a lot of times that is the case. Doesn't mean we can't improve on it first, decriminalization of drugs. Makr possession legal but refer them to treatment for addiction/substance abuse. Keep dealing/manufacture a crime.

This frees up money and space to keep violent criminals for their full term. We should seriously look into preventative measures at reducing gangs to operate within prisons.

>>694572480
everyone has rights hints the "inalienable" part.

>>694571229
Obviously a threat to females. Send it
a male prison.

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>>694578378
That's what I meant with nice skills, hahaha

I understand your point, but prison is not the only place where you can find all this "knowledge". If they want, they will learn it elsewhere.

How much did they pay him to do this?

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>>694574831

Basically describing a dungeon.

Prisoners in chains rot and wither away in darkness

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>>694571229
Fuck off you literal retard.

>>694579010
>Doesn't mean we can't improve on it first, decriminalization of drugs. Makr possession legal but refer them to treatment for addiction/substance abuse. Keep dealing/manufacture a crime.
sure I actually would want dealing and manufacturing to be legal too so that way major corporations are doling out the drugs at gas stations instead of filthy frank in a crack den
>This frees up money and space to keep violent criminals for their full term
that's great and all but having them sere their full term doesn't really improve anything, just slows the turn around time.
>preventative measures at reducing gangs to operate within prisons.
you mean like keeping the prisons separate from each other so they can't operate as gangs?

>>694578950

Most of the "kids" (ages 4-18, all culpable for crimes) at the psych ward were brought in because of police intervention. Many were violent as well.

Pretty much all the kids at the rehab center have criminal records. We have 16-17 year olds that've been tried as adults and have felony records, some violent.

>could anger management be taught by them having to control that energy and manage it. especially when they are in an environment where they will only be hurting themselves by exploding. Allowing them to get that energy out in a physical form in just reinforcing violent/ aggressive behavior and not teaching them coping skills.

Working out IS a coping skill and a way to deal with that anger/energy. Better to go work the heavy bag than attack a person. Better to go for a run when you're pissed at your gf instead of punching her.

There are other methods as well, like creative outlets... making music/art, etc, but exercise is a really good one.

Just think about it. When you get really angry it's hard to think straight and to consciously choose to use coping skills takes restraint. We have "crimes of passion " for a reason

>>694571229
obvious troll is obvious.

>>694579112
>If they want, they will learn it elsewhere.
But if we change prisons so they don't have contact with other inmates they won't learn it in prison and will instead learn useful skills to get a honest job when they get out.
A lot of times a petty thief goes into prison because they had no chance in life and had to steal to feed themselves but while in prison they are forced to join a gang and get taught all kinds of violent behaviors. They leave a hardened criminal just waiting to commit a worse crime and get sent back to teach some young thief the way they learned.

>>694579120
not enough

>>694579452
Serving full terms does keep them off the streets longer. It also gives them more time to access rehab services.

As far as manufacturing/dealing, I meant ilicit forms. Joe Blow can't still sling pot even though smoking is legal in Colorado. It has to go through approved/legal channels.

Prisonera are allowed a lot of free time ti congregate with their peers. They facilitate communication and network building in prison communities. I'm still not down with full time solitary confinement, but reducing free time roaming might help. Who knows

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If it were white, it'd be a different story.

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>>694578631

>>694571670
Jokes on you op can't inb4
People die in prison and a mtf is still physically stronger then a female

>>694571670
But you understand that we are talking about criminals right?
You might not have met many of them yourself in your life, but they tend to be violent and since nature is a chauvinist pig and made man a lot stronger than woman, a 240pound transsexual could cause a lot of damage to 120pound hookers. Also since he is obviously bisexual(taking photos in female dressing room) you cant guarantee any protection for the other woman, which he could happily rape all day, since they are naturally weaker than him.
If you dont understand or choose to ignore that i feel sorry for you.

>>694571670
So, if I identify as a bearded dragon, should they be required to build me a person size terrarium?

>>694579560
>Most of the "kids" (ages 4-18, all culpable for crimes) at the psych ward were brought in because of police intervention. Many were violent as well.
>Pretty much all the kids at the rehab center have criminal records. We have 16-17 year olds that've been tried as adults and have felony records, some violent.
great, still not a prison though. also you sound a little disillusioned about helping these kids.
>Better to go work the heavy bag than attack a person
what happens when they are out of prison and at the mcdonalds counter and the guy says they're out of mcnuggets? There's no heavy bag around then he punching the cashier and hard and with great technique from all the practice.
My why? He learns to control himself even when he gets energy built up and is antsy or angry.
>There are other methods as well, like creative outlets... making music/art, etc, but exercise is a really good one.
why is it a "really good one" how about Breathing, yoga and self control? You could do that shit in a cell or at the mcd's counter. also you keep using etc and I'm genuinely curious as to what other examples you have for this.
>"crimes of passion"
bullshit, this is the same as the guy that claims he did something bad because he was drunk. No you did something bad because you wanted to do something bad, you let yourself do it because you were drunk.

>>694575860
<- this guy gets it

lol he probably just said that to get more pussy. you can be a guy and identify as a gay woman. judge wasnt listening to his shit.

Literally a man in a dress. Live full time for 6 months and pass before public restrooms unless it's only one bathroom for both sexes. You are not a woman, you are just a pervert if you aren't willing to commit. I bet this freak doesn't even have a therapist's approval

>>694579966
>It also gives them more time to access rehab services.
with my plan they would actively participating in rehab the entire prison sentence and not playing cards and watching tv.
>Joe Blow can't still sling pot even though smoking is legal in Colorado
actually he could but it's not viable as a means for profit anymore especially when you can go to his hood and have to walk past his chained pitbull or go to a respectable storefront.
> their peers
read criminals
> communication and network building
read gangs/ gang activity
>reducing free time roaming might help
exactly my point. and again it's not trapping them in a basement it is just providing them with good resources while seperating them from bad influences.

>>694580693
no you should be lock away separate from society and given psychiatric help.

>>694580724
Disillusioned how? I don't have some sort of savior complex. I know most of the kids will go back to using, but fuck me kf we don't help a couple.

We teach them yoga, meditation, breathing, "walking away," etc. But yea...working out is still healthy. One of our kids really enjoyed football even though he had never played it. He got out, went back to school, and made his school's team. He has responsibilities, team relationships, accountability, and a good outlet for his energy.

"Drunk with rage." You couldn't see a man coming home to find his wife of 10 years in bed with another guy and him hurting/killing them as understandable??

>>694572666
nice trips. no jts transexual youre thinking of. transgender is just a new agey sort of beating around the bush deal

>>694571229
I don't know why they separate prison populations by gender anyway, it's not like it stops them from having sex with each other anyway

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>>694581460
>Disillusioned how? I don't have some sort of savior complex. I know most of the kids will go back to using, but fuck me kf we don't help a couple.
quoting from this post >>694579560
>"kids"
your use of quotation marks
>ALL culpable of crimes
all? really all of them?
>Pretty much all the kids
again pretty much all of them
>When you get really angry it's hard to think straight and to consciously choose to use coping skills
c'mon you've given up a little bit, you don't even believe the things you are teaching these kids
>He got out, went back to school, and made his school's team
right which is why I was hammering home the thing about them being children in rehab instead of adults in prison, no prisoner is getting out and trying out for the Eagles.
>"Drunk with rage." You couldn't see a man coming home to find his wife of 10 years in bed with another guy and him hurting/killing them as understandable??
Nope, he still hurt/ killed the guy. If you were that guy would you find it understandable? "Oh shit you never told me you were married, well shit I guess I better let this guy kill me and not have him be punished or taught not to do that."

>>694571670
Then it is a good thing "your eyes" mean shit

>>694582215
Was supposed to say 14-18. Most states avoid trying youths as adults, but in FL for instance , 14 year olds can be tried as adults. It is the lowest age of culpability in the country.

What's wrong with saying that most of our clients have criminal records/felonies? Granted the majority are nonviolent drug offenses, but 6/8 currently in our care have armed robbery, assault, minor in possession of an unregistered weapon etc.

>Giving up
No, I'm being real. When people get pissed, they're thinking about what made them pissed. It's difficult to redirect that anger/energy.

>Joining the Eagles
First, nobody would want to, they suck ass. Second, you're right, but there are bowling leagues, softball, basketball, and other recreational sports clubs/leagues


I'm not saying the pissed off spouse didn't commit a crime, he did. But that anger can and is used as a mitigating factor in trials.

>>694582965
>difficult to redirect that anger/energy
difficult but not impossible. where is the line? that guy at the mcdick's counter who punched the clerk because they were out of mcnuggets was that a crime of passion? he was really hoping for those mcnuggets after all.
a child would absolutely punch someone for not giving them nuggets but most people learn not to from their parents. it is a learned behavior and we should teach them to control it not to release it physically.
>they suck ass
and even the Eagles wouldn't hire the excon
> Second, you're right, but there are bowling leagues, softball, basketball, and other recreational sports clubs/leagues
and what does that do to help them make an honest living? that's fine if it's for fun but the people who end up in prison have more to be worried about than fun. And I get that it provides "responsibilities, team relationships, accountability, and a good outlet for his energy."
but you know what else does? An honest job and taking care of your own expenses.

>>694583774
>And I get that it provides "responsibilities, team relationships, accountability, and a good outlet for his energy."
but you know what else does? An honest job and taking care of your own expenses.


Fuck dude. what's wrong with having constructivhobbies outside of work? Better than getting wasted at the bar after work or high. AA/NA and religion doesn't help anyone make a living, but if they attend meetings in prison and get something out of it and it helps them manage their issues on the oustide, what's the deal?

Not all behaviors are learned. Violence is instinctual and can be instigated by hormone levels and brain chemistry.

>>694571229
Pretty sure what happened was this dude dressed as a lady so he could get in there and take pictures, not actually trans.

Here's my problem with these laws: they assume that pervert men are only going to go after women and that lesbian women don't exist. Plenty of male pedos like young boys, but there's nothing to "stop" that from molesting boys in changing rooms and restrooms. Same for lesbians.

Bottom line: try this new thing called situational awareness. Don't leave your kids unattended in public. WTF is wrong with people.

>>694584340
>what's wrong with having constructivhobbies outside of work? Better than getting wasted at the bar after work or high.
there's nothing wrong with having hobbies but not while you are in prison. just like you can't get wasted or high in prison you shouldn't be allowed your hobbies.
>AA/NA and religion doesn't help anyone make a living, but if they attend meetings in prison and get something out of it and it helps them manage their issues on the oustide, what's the deal?
I don't have a problem with that and I said in my original post I would want them provided with mental health services, those organisations and religion would fall under that.
>Not all behaviors are learned. Violence is instinctual and can be instigated by hormone levels and brain chemistry.
right which is why we need to teach better behavior than being physical when you are upset or in distress.

>>694584840
or women that are sexual offenders

>>694585045
Exactly. It's so painfully obvious that this targets transgenders for no reason other than to discriminate because the law is laughably ineffective at stopping actual crimes.

>>694585185
>the law is laughably ineffective at stopping actual crimes.
god you could say this about so many laws...

>>694585270
Or "the law" in general

>>694585270
>>694585345

At some point I feel like we just need to turn it off and back on again, then reformat and start fresh. Shit's gone crazy.

>>694585603
you're getting v& bro

This fucking psycho was probably just pretending to be a tranny. He/It whatever just went into the ladies room, sat down in the shitter and proceeded to snap some under the stall, chick shitting pics.

>>694571229
So I can pretend to be trans, go to female prison and be in paradise is what you're saying? Nowhere to run..nowhere to hide. My tranny dick getting it in.

The more people order sex dolls and prostitutes the happier the world will be

I mean pretending as in a dude wearing a wig and lipstick. As soon as he got arrested the cops probably nut checked him as a test

>>694571229
It doesn't matter what you identify as. The prison system separates you by biological gender, even post op weirdos go to the prison of their birth gender faggerino.

>>694573956
Well, with that kind of thinking you will wind up there, sadly they don't let you redecorate.

>>694586387
nah, it's called legislative reform, not revolution.

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>>694571229
Thats fucking stupid. If you were a transgender female who identified as male and was sent to male prison, how long until you've been gangraped by every nigga in the cellblock?

>>694587228
This is why we need prison reforms too. Prison rape just shouldn't be a thing.

In the ye old days. A man had a penor and females had vggs. Now if this mutant has a penor he goes to the prision with all the other gay ass dudes. And fuck each other. Anyway if he likes to dress up as a female mist mean he enjoys hes ass being rammed. 1/10 for making me reply

>>694573912
Still he/she gonna get in trouble for some sort of sexual harassment crime.

>>694571229

Hitler would have a solution for this.

Just saying.

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>>694571670

So they should have a tranny prison? Ugh hahah

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>>694571229

Some of the shittiest b8 ive seen .. Fuck you OP

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>>694571229
dump b9 m9

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>>694571229

>>694587332
lol, go to a bad neighborhood at 3am where the crackheads live. These are your inmates. Someone lives in a happy home.

>>694571229
looks like your little fantasy world has been shot down snowflake.

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>>694587118
right...

>>694587101
why? redecorate? wat?

>>694587332
see
>>694573956

>>694572206
>literally
Fucking kill yourself