How did the SilkRoad founder get caught and site shut down, if

>>693040997
CIA paid off Mozilla to install a trojan in their tor plugin

Anyone accessing Silk Road through Firefox was sending unencrypted data back to the CIA

I guess everything wasn't anonymous and encrypted...

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>>693040997
GOSH I WONDER

>>693040997
I'd take a moment to learn about security and exploits. There's no such thing as 100% anonymous, I might be able to just track you down to a tor relay, but if I can exploit your browser you're done for either way.

>>693041187
Is this what really happened or just some conspiracy crap?

If so, fuck Mozilla I'm not using thier shit anymore

>>693041639
Got a better alternative? I really hope you aren't thinking of Chrome.

>>693040997
I head darknet 2 got shut down too. Both owners of SilkRoad 1 and 2 got put in for life.

SilkRoad 3 is up and running I belive, only a matter of time before they get sentenced to life too kek

Can some faggot post that meme with the guy with glasses and long hair .

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>>693040997
He was mouthing off in an open forum with no proxies and let slip who he was. And the rest is history

>>693041187
this is not really true. FBI designed a javascript exploit that would reveal a user's true IP. The default TOR bundle left javascript enabled which allowed the vulnerability to be exploited.

If you want a good movie about it, watch Deep Web, I think it's on Netflix. There's definitely some shady shit going on with the FBI. A couple of agents took bitcoins worth a lot of money in the raid and were convicted.

>>693041199

This. If TOR were anonymous from the government - it would be illegal to use.

>>693040997
The agent in charge of this investigation was caught stealing 800k in bitch ins from the founder, and today it was revealed that he stole even more money kek.

>>693042035
There's also a non-trivial amount of evidence that Ross Ulbricht was framed

>>693041999
Tripsman speaks truth. More likely that homeboy got sloppy than it is that the incompetents who staff government positions were any good at their jobs.

Don't get sloppy, retards.

>>693041187
>>693041999
>>693042035
OK I'm getting three different answers here. Which one really is it?

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:)

>>693040997
Why was the founder arrested? What charges did he get?

>>693042035
Will def watch that movie.... Thanks

>>693042255
Occam's razor, you fuckwit. If you're just going to listen to retards on the internet, you're never going to know the truth about anything.

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>>693042355
:)

>>693042355
1. Fuck off fag, this is just a discussion

2. Nice pins you bought from eBay. Are they genuine, or like knockoffs from China?

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>>693042504

>>693042383
money laundering, conspiracy to traffic narcotics, and computer hacking.

Now get this: He was sentenced to LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE

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>>693042522
First day on dad's laptop, son?

>>693040997
Metadata they tracked him down as a suspect talking about the silk road using his real name like an idiot then he changed his emails blah blah till he became dreadpirateroberts they tracked him down to the cafe he was using a vpn which did encrypt everything but the tard stood up with his computer unlocked when the lady said your coffee is ready fbi agent saw his screen and boom busted

>>693042522
fuck reaks of summer

>>693040997
It's only 100% anonymous if you take additional precautions.

For eg, the BBC did on a story on a pedo who got caught. He had an usual greeting "hiyas". So the Feds searched the surface web and found a facebook account that used that greeting.

The pedo in on Tor had a mole on his hand and the guy on FB had the same, so they arrested him, took over his site and caught dozens of pedos.

All Tor sites that get shut down are through human error.

>>693042255

If I recall it was rather simple. The owner of silkroad was just a dumbass. Used his real identity on the website, his email got released and so on. From there the feds easily tracked down the server the site was registered to, shut it down and arrested the owner. No hacking necessary. The later websites were hacked through javascript exploits I believe.

>>693042383
Found of SilkRoad 1 got arrested for procuring murder (paid 800k total to 6 different people to kill someone and they ran off with his money lmao) and hacking and also drug trafficking. Life in prison in Manhattan detention center nyc.


SilkRoad 2 was created by his friend, also got caught. Life in prison.

SilkRoad 3 idk anything about

>>693042355
you just bought one of those cheap gift shop pins didnt you.

>>693041639
>implying this isn't the case with every browser at this point
unless you're using your own encryption your shit is fucked
Just don't be big enough to warrant actual effort on the part of the authorities and you can do whatever the fuck you want.

>>693042616
>>693042586
Close. They found his email address tied to an old forum post on Austrian economics and correlated that email address to his ip. That email address also was in 1 post/account on TOR. And then they setup a sting and surveilled and arrested him. Pretty dumb.

>>693042924
woops, meant Silk Road, not TOR

>>693042670
owner of silkroad thought those hitmen sites were real? lol idiot

>>693042035
>watch Deep Web

Just watched it last night actually: Here: http://movieshub.tv/deep-web/

I'd say it tells it pretty straight. They wanted to convict him, so they didn't' allow a lot of evidence to be used on his behalf. Typical government. But we allow it, so fuck us. Maybe in a few more years a small group of us will get organized and start to take back what's ours. Till then, fuck us.

>>693042924
But how did they know that email was tied to something bad?

Also how did they know it was used on TOR if it's an anonymous connection?

These maybe stupid questions but I'm sorta lost here.

>>693042355

holy shit you have terrible handwriting

>>693043114
In a thread like this, I ain't clicking that shit nigga. Rather just search it on Netflix or some shit kek

>>693043164
Fuck off asshole

>>693042999
So how did they know some random email on the Internet was possibly tied to something huge.

Funny played deep web got on b first thread I saw this 1

>>693043135
you see the email pubicly in his post on Tor

>>693042355
that's stale

>>693043135
They found that email on an account on Silk Road after they raided their servers. Email is not anonymous in any way so it's very easy to correlate IPs with email addresses.

Once they found that email address on a silk road server, they searched the internet for more and got that IP information through National Security Letters with gag orders so the server owners couldn't notify Ross.

Pretty routine, unfortunately. I think the javascript vulnerability that deanonymized a whole bunch of TOR users is still secret and the FBI is fighting not to have it released.

>>693043262
Or you could just google the address and see it's a typical HD movie site. What are you worried about?

>>693042430
Such a fucking flawed statement.
>Occams Razor
>it's used to decide scientific direction and doesn't apply to retards on the internet deciding what information is "true" or "false" in the first place

>>693043304

why so buttblasted?

>>693043542
Nothing man, just high as fuck and paranoid

>>693043336
his email was publicly viewable on ST because he made a post using it.

The Feds decided to search for it on the clear net in case he was stupid enough to screw up and use it there. He was.

Getting your IP on the clear net is as easy as showing a warrant. He was then arrested.

>>693043662
Ha! Ok, that makes a little more sense then.

Ross's case is a perfect illustration of just how out of control the modern FBI is. Hoover set them loose to be his own secret police and no president since has had the balls to stand up to them. They routinely hide/destroy evidence and rarely play within the bounds of the law. In Ross's case they deanonymized thousands of TOR users just to find him, a serious breach of ethics.

>>693043724
or a National Security Letter

>>693043492
Thanks for answering. Made things a bit clear. I guess Dark Net will make it clearer. How is this so called Javascript vulnerability used? Like does it come with all tor installs or do you have to download something to get it?

>>693043789
This. And also if you're going to fuck around, you better have at least several layers of protection and traps set up so you know when shit has been breached and they have started to look for you. He was lazy and believed no one would ever find him. Then by the time he acted to cover his ass it was too late.

He was sloppy, they matched his style of writing with other bits of information such as activity time for patterns, usernames that had same or similar names etc.

People forget what they do online is usually there forever. 1 mistake can be found many years down the line.

>>693043881
you only have to have javascript enabled in your browser for it to work. If I recall, once the FBI capture a TOR exit node and were able to embed this javascript vulnerability in a 1x1 pixel image on the page so you would never see it.

>>693043861
>>693043492
>A national security letter (NSL) is an administrative subpoena issued by the United States federal government to gather information for national security purposes. NSLs do not require prior approval from a judge.

Woah, so the govt can just spy on you and your Internet connection and stuff without any approval at all? Is this constitutional?

>>693043881
JavaScript itself is a common programming language used for front end web application development. Although, it can be used for certain types of hacks such as XSS, the only way it can get an IP address is accessing a Java applet that a user has installed. Note, JavaScript and Java are different

>>693040997
Library

>>693040997
He tried getting an undercover CIA agent to kill a non undercover CIA agent

Since this seems like the right audience. If you're interested in Ross's case, you also might be interested in the story of the author of the encryption software TrueCrypt.

Great 7 piece series here: https://mastermind.atavist.com/

Basically computer genius who goes rogue and becomes a crime boss. Really long but I swear it's worth the read.

>>693044053
For example route your traffic though a 'fake' laptop that you pay someone to use in public places. When the Fed arrest the fall guy they get nothing. But you get the advantage of the intel and traffic coming from public places. It looks like you hacked the laptop and your buddy goes free. It's a win - win but costs money and time of course. Don't be lazy and stupid or you go to jail.

>>693043789
Yeah fuck the FBI. Bunch of power tripping mother fuckers. They're shady too. If any FBI agent is reading this, please don't kill me. I have a right to the 1st ammendme, you fuckers are fishy.

>>693044188
Many countries will have something like this in place.

Bump for dpr

>>693044188
Unfortunately yes. After 911 our judicial system went a little haywire and allowed stuff like this. Important fact: It's technically illegal to even acknowledge that you have been served one.

That's why when google discloses the number they have received they have to include a range and it includes zero. Something like 0 to 1100.

Scary..

>>693044188
No, but they can make up evidence as to HOW they got you in the first place. So they find things that fit the narrative and it sticks.

This is the issue we are facing today. They can lock up anyone they want, whenever they want and we can't even use the laws which are there to protect us.

>>693044485
So the govt sends a letter to Google saying for them to give us the ip of person A, and they have to comply?

For everyone in this thread, I suggest you watch CitizenFour if you haven't yet. It's available or free online.

>>693044700
yes

>>693040997
called the NSA not spying on people.

>>693044700
Yes, they can also request much more detailed information such as location data over a period of years or all IP login information to your account and build a network. The kicker: they cannot notify you by law that they have handed over your records to gov't.

>>693044860
Damn that's some scary shit... REALLY scary shit. I'd never trust the govt like that

>>693044860
This is why foreign VPNs have become all the rage nowadays. Even though there are alliances such as the five eyes or fourteen eyes that work together to collect intelligence. So in these countries it's not as easy to escape US surveillance if at all.

>>693044744
On it anon. Thanks!

http://putlocker.is/watch-citizenfour-online-free-putlocker.html

Unless you're stoned. Then don't click on the link. :p

>>693044860
that is why I don't use google.

>>693044111
>He was sloppy,

he was so sloppy and dumb the FBI even visited him and interviewed him about some fake IDs he ordered and he did not take the hint and get rid of all the evidence and move to Belize.

>>693044990
Unfortunately you never had to the choice whether to trust them or not. It was never voted on by the general public.

>>693045080
Bro almost every one does this. Privacy is a thing of the past

>>693045080
Google owns so much of the Internet's infrastructure that it's almost impossible to get away from it. In addition, the vast majority of the internet infrastructure is inside the US or at least the traffic goes through the US so it's very easy to find at least one company to get data from.

>>693045047
I wondered this. So is VPN even a safe option anymore? I guess technically nothing from your location is every really safe. You need to decouple from the first location and originate packets from a second to really be safe.

>>693044744
Snowden is a God damn fucking Patriot. Thank God he exposed those fishy mother fuckers NSA. And what they were doing. Who knows wtf they are still doing today.

>>693045047
that's why you should only use a Russian based VPN that only takes payment in bitcoins

>>693045085
Kek really? What a dumbass. Missed his opportunity to run away.

>>693045429
But your traffic from your home to them is the issue, no?

>>693045329
VPN is not a silver bullet. The NSA has lists of VPN endpoints that they share with other agencies like FBI/CIA, so if they wanted to find you they could. But here's the thing, you have to make yourself stand out from the crowd to be targeted by the FBI/NSA/CIA so anything you can do to blend in is best.

That's why if you download the TOR browser, it sets the window to a generic resolution like 1024x768 because it's so common and warns you if you try to resize the window. User-agent plays a big role too.

They caught him using old fashioned police work

If you want to go on tor and be anon to trade some photos then run away that's easy

If you want to run servers and a business that makes tens of millions of dollars per year net profit that is up 24/7 and deals with user support and keeping the lights on it's very easy to fuck up, especially if they are actively looking for the person profiting from that business

Think about it, he was trying to be the CEO of a super secret ebay and keep every single thing anon?

he should have moved to a country where that was not a crime and did not extradite, he simply could not stay anon forever

>>693041187

This isn't what brought down silk road.

The architect of it (Dread Pirate Roberts) had used some type of similarly named on-line handle or posted on topic with similar language to his recent activity on some long forgotten message board. The feds now had an old IP address and they went from there to connect the dots.

Had he kept his mouth shut he'd very likely still be a ghost.

>>693045429
Bitcoins are not anonymous and the block chain contains all bitcoin transactions from the beginning. If they wanted to, they would find you.

There are newer emerging technologies like zerocoin that seek to offer anonymous, decentralized payments.

>>693040997
there is already a new silk road up.

>>693042670
>tfw the guy they caught was actually the hit and they got the FBI to do it for him

he logged into the server with his actual email. a big fuck up and thats how they found him. he admitted it openly. all these faggots are retarded

>>693045657
This is sort of hard to comprehend as someone who's not a tech junkie but eh I get your point

>>693045381
You're god damn right

>>693045676
I Dont think any country in the world let's selling big amounts of drugs legal. Even then, the fbi and NSA still spy on people overseas. You're never safe.

>>693042613
This

The encryption being sound is irrelevant when every one gets caught by mistakes they make in the physical/unencrypted world.

>>693043653
Fuck off asshole

>>693046111
yup, opsec is extremely important.

also trips

>>693046111
This is also a very valid point.

>>693044296
Did he do it?

>>693042613
That documentary sounds interesting as fuck to watch... What's the name.

>>693046133
Fuck you, you dirty cum nugget

>>693046100
>I Dont think any country in the world let's selling big amounts of drugs legal. Even then, the fbi and NSA still spy on people overseas. You're never safe.

anyone making the kind of money he was making will eventually get caught

He would have to move to sealand or North Korea or someplace that hated the US and gave no fucks

>>693046514
But then that someplace like North Korea would find a way to profit from his profit. Such as blackmailing him to paying 80% of anything he makes in order to not arrest him.

That fucker had 30 million dollars so it's not like 80% would hurt anyway.

>>693046333
There was no proof from the State. They held him on no bond because of it, then dropped the charges (he remains "unchanged"). So it wasn't him or they lacked any proof it was. But the trial wasn't about that. It was about showing they were in control still and not us. The whole Silk Road was a fuck you to the system, not about selling drugs. It was about how We The People could do what we want without Big Brother being able to stop us or control any aspect of it/us.

They don't like that.

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>this thread

>>693046486
Fuck off asshole

>>693046883

yeah, clearly i was implying they would have to partner with him somehow

>>693046514
Or Pakistan, or Russia. The guys in power will protect anyone who can pay for protection.

>>693040997
youd make more money taxing regulating and educating it

>>693046883
If I had 30 million, I would've left the business long before. This guy was just fucking greedy and kept going and going

Drug dealers, especially big time drug dealers like him (and small dealers) retire quick like after 3 years. The more you're in the game, the higher chance you'll get caught. Take your profits and cut it short. You made what the average citizen does in a lifetime so don't be greedy.

Smart dealers make thier millions, quit, then open a small business and live the rest of thier life as a normal citizen.

They could have just flat out got him on tax evasion

however you look at it he was breaking shittons of laws

>>693042562
:)

>>693046333
Also they could have easily planted the logs that claim someone was trying to hire hits. They really fucked things up when they didn't release HOW they obtained that information. Only they found things on the laptop and servers.

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>>693046928
>this thread

The never found the coder or the creator of silk road !

There are stuff about the website that makes it unique !

>>693047338
There is still a good amount of evidence to suggest that the real DPR is still out there and framed Ross to take the fall.

I know it sounds meta and like the movies but it's true.

>>693042185
This was more scary than anything. There was so much circumstantial evidence and the courts didn't give a fuck. They wanted someone who hang and didn't care if it was the real guy or not.

>>693047227
>This guy was just fucking greedy and kept going and going

He wasn't. It was part of his ideology that we were free to do what we wanted. It wasn't about the money. Neither was his previous business. And there's a good chance he wasn't even the owner of the site. Just an Admin.

>>693047338
The govt always lie and are shady. Who knows how they obtain "probable cause". They also play around with evidence and are constant breakers of the Constitution.

>>693042355
I cant read cursive since the concussion you cunt

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>>693047438
Kek why is that agent in blue such a lard fatty ass? Is this what the govt hires now days?

>>693040997
nothing on the web is 100% anonymous
otherwise it would be impossible for the web to work
darkweb and tor browsers increase the anonymity
the only way he could have evaded the law forever was to frequently change the servers' physical location

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>>693040997
Nothing is ever 100% anonymous or secure you asshat. Ask /g/ or google it.

>>693047645
>framed Ross to take the fall.
That was spoken about in the movie actually. And was his only defense in the case. SO many Admins used the DPR account that it's hard to tell who was who most times. And it's unlikely he was the owner of the site.

>>693046924
>But the trial wasn't about that. It was about showing they were in control still and not us. The whole Silk Road was a fuck you to the system, not about selling drugs. It was about how We The People could do what we want without Big Brother being able to stop us or control any aspect of it/us.

give it a rest, this guy was facilitating drug deals and trying to hire hitmen and not paying taxes on tens of millions

this guy is a criminal, he's not someone to go all BIG BROTHER WE THE PEOPLE about

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>>693042355
fuckin 2nd grade handwriting

>>693042185
>>693047660
Are we really going to start with the conspiracy crap? Common. It's a no brainer it was him.

>>693047921

he had access to 30million dollars in bitcoins and all the passwords

he was the owner or so high up the owner trusted him with his anonbux he could have run off at any time with

>>693047968
Believe what you want but just because he was found guilty doesn't mean he did it.

>>693047936
>he's not someone to go all BIG BROTHER WE THE PEOPLE about
Then you missed the whole point of the site. They could have easily sold things that were fucked up and they didn't. Drugs, yes. But not hits or children for example. And some even have credited the site to less crime stats. That's how much it made a difference and kept people safe. That's what the site was about. Not making money.

>>693048192
Let me guess, you're the type of person who believes trayvon martin and Michael brown are innocent, right?

Stuff like this is what the FBI/CIA/NSA stockpile so that they can use it at a later date. https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/01/android-qualcomm-security-flaw-encryption/
They hope that it isn't brought out into the public and patched so they can exploit it in cases like Ross's.

>>693048192

he just happened to have $30,000,000 in bitcoins on his laptop and full admin logins to silk road too.....

>>693042586
he was at San Francisco public library

>>693048167
I believe it was more than that, and several admins said they had used the account and also had access to things. It wasn't just one person. It was probably 6 or even 8 people.

>>693048327
No, I'm the type of person who believe that Steven Avery is innocent.

>>693043164
That is his secret to never getting caught. If even the op doesn't understand what he wrote, the authorities will never catch him.

>>693048257
>hits on everyone but children, that's OK

whatever anon, that shit will never be legal, he was getting rich off drugs and murder

I know you think the world would be a better place if being cool hitman were legal or selling heroin at walmart were gonna happen

but it won't, wait till they lock up someone who is not so obviously breaking the law

>>693048493

those other 8 people would not have had access to the bitcoins

only he had access to that because he was the owner

>>693047438
He knows too much

>>693048577
I don't disagree with you but he didn't make any money off of murdering anyone nor did he actually kill anyone.

>>693048577
Lol murder had nothing to do with SilkRoad. It was him who paid 6 people to kill someone and they fucked him over.

>>693048738

he just hired someone to kill someone and didn't pay taxes on thirty million dollars

you can't do either of those two things

>>693048725
How much do you think the Silk Road brought in? $30 million? $50 million? Ross's share was $30 but I guarantee it brought in a lot more money than that.

>>693048577
>getting rich off drugs and murder

Did I miss something? I said murder for hire WAS NOT allowed on the site. And if you think drugs are bad then you must still be in middle skool or something like that. Go do some reading and expand you mind a little.

>>693048891
yes you can, he did.

You just get arrested for it.

>>693048910
>30,000,000

he hired the hitmen

anyway he didn't pay his taxes which is the real issue

>>693048990

ok you win

>>693048725
I donno. I would assume there would have been several accounts for admins with funds. In case you needed to go on the run for instance. Or pay for services like new Servers. Not having all funds on one account would make sense also in case they got seized. Etc.

>>693048903
He made 30 million in 2 years. Silk road was like the fucking Samsung of phones. SilkRoad in total probably made like 200 million

>>693047438
can't they buy them big enough desks to spread their work out?

>>693049093

all the funds were on his personal PC

>>693049148
no they spend all of their money on tanks and MRAPS

>>693047953
>>693047805
>>693043164
>>693042885
>>693042522
>>693042355
>being this new
this picture has been used for years

>>693049188
How do you get bitcoins on your laptop? :-)

The accounts were OPEN and accessible from the laptop. Same with the site and admin panel. This is was issue. Also his laptop wasn't encrypted. He was lazy as I said before.

>>693049121
>>693049121
>SilkRoad in total probably made like 200 million
You're assuming with no evidence.

>>693049428
I think it actually was encrypted but the agents just got to him before he was able to lock it.

>>693042522
>spot the newfag

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>>693042606
Dude you aint fucking kidding, the majority of the responses have never seen that old ass picture before.

>>693049428

you can check and see who was accessing his account, if it had only ever been him then only he had access

try having an unexplained ten million dollars lying around and not going to prison

>>693044700
some companies use what they call "canaries" its a legal statement claiming they have never had any NSL requests or requests for records by the government.

its illegal for them to say they've been served. but its legal for them to confirm they've -not- been served. if that changes, the "canary" disappears.

>>693049435
Yeah, but I'd believe it would be in that area or more. That makes more sense than 30 mil for the amount of time the site was running and the amount of good they claim was being delivered.

>>693040997
Happy Capy 4th of July!

https://youtu.be/ufuyAEqK7os

>>693049428
didn't he have the SR admin panel open on his phone when the Feds arrested him in a public library?

>>693049581
In the movie it said it wasn't. Could have been an error of course. I never read it was however.

>>693049771
yes, on his comp. pretty dumb

>>693049351
it's summer, what do you expect

>>693048327
michael brown was an asshole, but what exactly did trayvon do wrong? besides being born black, i mean.

>>693049808
ah ok, been a few months since I saw the movie

>>693049995
Punch a guy and bash his head against the cement multiple times

>>693049696
But as owner he'd have only got a small cut of each sale. If the site made him $200million, how much was actually spent in those 2 years, $1 billion, $5 billion?

>>693042430
>Occam's razor

doesn't really mean anything. it's only validated by it's own logic. sometimes the answer is the most complicated one.

He would use the same screen name all the time and they found old posts he made on a forum with that same name trying to get people to go to silk road and somehow traced him from that (posting with no proxies or he wrote his name somewhere or used an e-mail that could be traced to him to sign up). This is actually what happened.

>>693049995
>michael brown was an asshole
he was much more than an asshole, you retard
he assaulted a store owner, stole a pack of cigars (all of this was dismissed as a "cultural" thing, too), and not only rushed towards the officer that killed him, but also reached for his gun (all of this is supported by the autopsy)

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>>693049669
R.I.P. Tae 2016-2016

We barely knew ye.

>>693045213
>Privacy is a thing of the past
>Privacy is a thing of the past
>Privacy is a thing of the past
>Privacy is a thing of the past
>Privacy is a thing of the past
>Privacy is a thing of the past

>>693043114
At least someone points you fags down a path. Fuck me what u have read sounds more like what ypur American media says. You fags are the problem as you believe mainstream media. Perfect US government bitches..

DPR was arrested in a library. His downfall was an undercover agent looking to make big buys. Able to bust sellers and sieze their pcs and use their logins to get admin rights and so forth leading to an arrest. I highly doubt the guy they arrested is who the US government says he is. His trial was a farce.
Your government illegally found the servers in Iceland and cloned them allowing them to control the information.

I say get behind your man. Its your country that is so fucked up in the darkness of the world. I wouldn't suprise me if they are the puppet behind ISIS and Al Quaeda..

>>693050222
Probably. EVERYONE was using the site and knew about it. It had over 1 million customers on it. You could buy kilos of anything. I'm not good with math, but a kilo of pot is a lot no less coke. So when I do the math, yeah it could have been as much as a billion. We'll never know unless the Feds release the records from the Servers. And you think they are going to do that when it means major egg on their face and openly admitting that huge amounts of drugs get sent through the mail daily?

>>693041639
The CIA intercepts cisco network equipment to install hardware that breaks encryption, why wouldn't they do this?

>>693042035
> JavaScript exploit
> tor
Top kek m80, that ain't how js works. Try again

>>693050769

The guy was selling drugs and contract murders, the passwords to the money were on his computer. They either had the right guy or the guy who was holding the owner's 30million dollars

either way he knew what he was doing and the risks

he was helping to sell drugs and getting rich doing it, not saving starving children

he was a faggot who cares

>>693050128
>a guy

a guy that was following him? for blocks? with a loaded gun? george zimmerman is a pussy ass faggot, and a liar. thwy let sean hannity speak on his behalf at his trial, he was never even called to the stand. trayvon was just an unarmed kid, man. that's real fucked up.

>>693050412
>all of this was dismissed as a "cultural" thing

i didn't hear that anywhere. i heard it dismissed because the responding officer hadn't even heard of the robbery, and we don't execute people for stealing anyway, but anyone who dismissed strong-arm robbery as "a cultural thing" is probably retarded, and has just outed themselves as a closet racist. where'd you hear that? twitter? tumblr? don't take the nation's pulse by assholes on the internet.

>>693051251
>he was helping to sell drugs and getting rich doing it, not saving starving children

Then you never read any of the DPR posts or why the site was up and running. I know they used big words, but you should go read a few. It speaks volumes to his humanity and visions for the site and its users.

How the fuck did SilkRoad survive anyway? Like wouldn't it be easy for undercover to pose as buyers/sellers on SilkRoad a catch a bunch of people? It would have helped if they actually kept the site up and catch buyers and sellers rather than shut it down

>>693051441
Why you here? Reddit gets slow during the summer?

Nigger.

>>693051636
all $$ was kept in escrow until confirmation of legitimacy

>>693051611

it was up and running to make that faggot thirty million dollars, never pay taxes, and to sell drugs

i know it's a big secret that is a felony but he should have looked into it

>>693051636

that would help you bust individual buyers or sellers

which nobody actually cared to do

>>693051636
how would you catch the sellers? The sellers don't give you their personal info. the buyers probably weren't worth it

>>693051692
no. there's a lot of liberal bullshit. but if you really think trayvon deserved to die, which a lot of people do, you're fucked up and your worldview is flawed. /b/ isn't zeitgeist or stormfront, there's people of all kinds who come to say offensive shit. but if you think treyvon wasn't the victim of a nutjob with a gun and a racist criminal justice system, you've got something wrong with you. maybe get off /b/ and go see a therapist for a while.

>>693052167
>how would you catch the sellers? The sellers don't give you their personal info. the buyers probably weren't worth it

buy like 50 things from one seller then carefully open the boxes/track them back to where they were shipped, find patterns in where they came from for instance they might have often used one mailbox at noon on most tuesdays... wait for them there, look for fingerprints in the box shit like that, bust the guy dropping off the box and make him take you to his boss

surprised they never did that to a bunch of people then make noise about it to scare everyone else but it never happened

>>693052167
This is exactly it. The buyer is buying $100 with of coke for the weekend. The seller has 10 kilos. They want the 10 kilos for the news and PR. Not some kid with whore bait that costs hundreds of man hours of time to find.

>>693052362
Get the fuck off /b/ you SJW faggot. Tray tray was a fucking nigger criminal who chipped out on a human.

>>693051636
Thats what they did, fuckwit. But the community on silkroad was very tight and almost like family. People were normally smart and made sure they left out any personal info (like any email they even used only once, 7 years ago). It ended up being an old email and a trusted user of silkroad whom ratted when the feds found out who he was by telling personal info for a shipment of large amount of drugs. That used fucked everybody up.

>>693051251
Ok...

Get your facts amerifag. They put those charges on him and dropped them so he was trialled by media before even getting into a courtroom.

2 of the agents working on his case were charged and booted from the CIA. Their evidence was fine to use in court...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Ulbricht

There were many Dead Pirate Roberts. Ross was just one of them. His main ideology was that government's should not control EVERYTHING.

Look at how many people die because of the so called war on drugs. Decriminalise drugs. Clean up your streets.. nah that wont happen to many Amerifags get rich whilst theres crime. Fucking idiotic post. Educate yourself

>>693052362
You're new here obviously so let me welcome you and explain a few things.
>You're a faggot
>/b/ hates niggers
>you are fishing in empty waters

>>693051441
>and we don't execute people for stealing anyway,
are you stupid? (don't answer this, you unironically said "besides being born black"; i already know the answer) i never said that he should be killed for stealing. i am saying stealing from and assaulting a store owner makes you much worse than an asshole.

>>693052503
They probably tried. And if you were smart you were safe.

Do you think people with millions worth of drugs are idiots? Only in the movies they are. Every one I know is a very good business man and knows what is safe and what isn't. And have good people working for them. It's not a one person shop.

>>693051044
let go one step further. The gov wont let you sell anything in the open market unless they have the keys to it. im talking about china aswell

>>693052503
That sounds like a risky use of resources because if the seller is smart none of that will work and you've wasted precious resources. Is any seller worth it?

>>693052735
>who chipped out
I thought they were skittles

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>>693052362
Can't flim flam the zim-man

Tor = nsa honeypot. If you think that you're legitimately anonymous using Tor and tails you deserve to be caught.

>>693052827
>There were many Dead Pirate Roberts. Ross was just one of them. His main ideology was that government's should not control EVERYTHING.

he should have expressed that fascinating ideology on his blog, not by facilitating the selling hundreds of millions of dollars in hard drugs and getting rich along the way

>>693052827
This. And i'm pretty sure the other anon was trolling in all 3 posts before he made.

>>693040997
Something got leaked maybe? Fuck if I know.

>>693053167
Can't simmer the Zimmer.

Can't bing boom the Zim Zoom

Ain't no flimmin' the zimmin'

>>693052935
>Do you think people with millions worth of drugs are idiots?

if they are trying to run their drug empire from a library on an unencryped laptop in public


yes

>>693053312
>fascinating ideology on his blog
Trolling again? And obviously someone who was never on the site or ready anything posted there.

>>693053115
>That sounds like a risky use of resources because if the seller is smart none of that will work and you've wasted precious resources. Is any seller worth it?

people get lazy, how are you truly going to anon outgoing mail hundreds of packages a week, week in week out for months and years?

>>693053456
the actualsellers would need to be much smarter than he was. Smuggling/making drugs is very risky and takes big precautions to stay safe.

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>>693052735
>Get the fuck off /b/

make me, bitch. and i'm white, if i saw someone following me, i might stop and less than politely ask why. 911 told zimmerman to stay inside, and he followed him anyway. he's a punk bitch that got he ass whooped by a teenager. should have minded his own fucking business, but he wanted to play superhero, and ended up killing an innocent teenager (who had no criminal record). just a sad racist who can't grasp the melting pot theory.

you unamerican faggot.

>>693053167
>>693053427
i kek in your general direction

>>693053588
>people get lazy,
If you get lazy your boss will kill you and your family. Pretty good insensitive not to be a lazy fuck about things and do things as they tell you. Also, you think that no one is checking or watching the people who pack orders knowing one fuckup could bring everyone down? You're being a silly goose sir.

>>693042562
:^)

>>693052921
fair enough nigga, damn. i was using "asshole" as derisively as possible. was not trying to defend michael brown. he should've been put in jail. probably not shot though.

>>693053588
Depends on how big your operation is. If you're a one man operation you're too small fry to bother with. Anyone bigger is going to have guys working for him and already be experienced at staying under the radar.

Oh well. Thread is dead and just troll guy is left.

Was fun. Good discussion!

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>>693052362
The travon martini

>>693053963
>Pretty good insensitive not to be a lazy fuck
>Pretty good insensitive
>good insensitive
>insensitive
>inb4 b8

>>693042355
I like touching 12 yr old grills.

>>693048903
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>>693050222
I watched the deep Web documentary. It was it generated 1.2 billion dollars in sales.

>>693042236
Trips don't lie

>>693053963

Not that easy

if you have to mail out that many packages you are going to start repeating stuff like times and mailboxes you drop to

they are at least going to track you down to your town if you are big and then can use old fashioned police work from there

I am just telling you how they would do it, the idea that every seller someone was physically mailing packages with hard drugs in them and could not be tracked it the feds gave a shit is ridiculous

just like they have the buyer's home addy they have where the package originated, with enough packages purchased they could get real real close to you...

>>693053312
Are drugs bad? Or are the avenues to buy/sell just been made like that because it suits your government. Think a while as your the product of what your government wants you to think like.

You just like to keep your niggers and spiks in slavery. Cheap jail labour that cant vote.. nice move white America. Im Ausfag and have more of a clue on your country than you do.

>>693054314
did it say what the owners cut was? If he took 1% for eg that's $120million and $90million is not accounted for.

>>693042924
didnt his email address have his name... like straight up

>>693054562

go sell millions of dollars in drugs and try the "drugs are not bad defense"

ill watch

>>693053855
oh my god you're too fucking new. go back to tumblr or reddit faggot.

>>693054626
This. His old form account did on another board I think it was.

>>693053855
You're right
Zimmerman is a punk bitch
And he did get his ass whooped by a teenager
Therein lies the problem, /b/ro

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>>693054163
SUMMER ALERT

>>693054014
i disagree. i don't think he should have been shot for stealing, but moreso because he reached for the officer's gun.

>>693054984
i remember reading and saw a coupkle documentaries... and it was retarded he stupid he got caught

>>693054600
Hm I don't remember about that

>>693055269
moot said summerfags are myth

I miss him

>>693054775
>go sell millions of dollars in drugs and try the "drugs are not bad defense"

works for big pharma. At this point their drugs are killing more people than the illegal ones.

>>693055577
It also works for legal highs

>>693055577
>works for big pharma. At this point their drugs are killing more people than the illegal ones.

yeah that's the same thing as selling cocaine to anyone with a tor browser across state lines and hiring a hitman to kill someone for you

i mean why is murder not legal LOL BIG GOVERMENT

>>693054842
fuck you, nigger. i've probably been here longer than you. how's neo-nazi summercamp? do they provide sunscreen from your chemo-looking scalps? better be a real high SPF.

>>693055205
yeah. in a fight that he started. he killed a kid with a gun because he was losing a fight he started. he should be in jail.

>>693055351
>because he reached for the officer's gun.
conveniently, there's no footage of the incident, so we'll never know. it's the cops words against a dead man. at the very least, it's a good argument for mandatory body cams.

Don't trust any kind of encryption. The government can force any company to include backdoors or provide the keys. Ever heard of Lavabit? Just ckeck it on Wiki...
There are already Webshops (e.g. airlines) showing different prices for different people. With our smartphones, wr provide a nice set of data, too....

>>693056212
>it's the cops words against a dead man
Just how the authorities like it.

It's how most of history is written - wars included.

>>693056212
You're a idiot.
Trayvon drug Zimmerman out of his vehicle, opening a door to a car in florida is the same as opening a door to a house.. Zimmerman could have blasted his ass right there, legally.
I bet you believe the chopped and re-edited 911 calls too. Idiot.
Grow up, grow a brain, and stop sucking so much black cock. There still may be hope for you, you faggot.

>>693056212
> so we'll never know.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/report-autopsy-suggests-michael-brown-reached-ferguson-officers-gun-n231391
>Dr. Judy Melinek, a forensic pathologist not involved in the autopsy, told the newspaper that the finding “supports the fact that this guy is reaching for the gun, if he has gunpowder particulate material in the wound.” Melinek also told the newspaper that the autopsy did not support witness accounts that the fatal shot, later, was fired while Brown was running away from the officer or had his hands up.