>>693040997 I'd take a moment to learn about security and exploits. There's no such thing as 100% anonymous, I might be able to just track you down to a tor relay, but if I can exploit your browser you're done for either way.
If you want a good movie about it, watch Deep Web, I think it's on Netflix. There's definitely some shady shit going on with the FBI. A couple of agents took bitcoins worth a lot of money in the raid and were convicted.
>>693040997 Metadata they tracked him down as a suspect talking about the silk road using his real name like an idiot then he changed his emails blah blah till he became dreadpirateroberts they tracked him down to the cafe he was using a vpn which did encrypt everything but the tard stood up with his computer unlocked when the lady said your coffee is ready fbi agent saw his screen and boom busted
>>693042383 Found of SilkRoad 1 got arrested for procuring murder (paid 800k total to 6 different people to kill someone and they ran off with his money lmao) and hacking and also drug trafficking. Life in prison in Manhattan detention center nyc.
SilkRoad 2 was created by his friend, also got caught. Life in prison.
>>693041639 >implying this isn't the case with every browser at this point unless you're using your own encryption your shit is fucked Just don't be big enough to warrant actual effort on the part of the authorities and you can do whatever the fuck you want.
>>693042616 >>693042586 Close. They found his email address tied to an old forum post on Austrian economics and correlated that email address to his ip. That email address also was in 1 post/account on TOR. And then they setup a sting and surveilled and arrested him. Pretty dumb.
Just watched it last night actually: Here: http://movieshub.tv/deep-web/
I'd say it tells it pretty straight. They wanted to convict him, so they didn't' allow a lot of evidence to be used on his behalf. Typical government. But we allow it, so fuck us. Maybe in a few more years a small group of us will get organized and start to take back what's ours. Till then, fuck us.
>>693043135 They found that email on an account on Silk Road after they raided their servers. Email is not anonymous in any way so it's very easy to correlate IPs with email addresses.
Once they found that email address on a silk road server, they searched the internet for more and got that IP information through National Security Letters with gag orders so the server owners couldn't notify Ross.
>>693042430 Such a fucking flawed statement. >Occams Razor >it's used to decide scientific direction and doesn't apply to retards on the internet deciding what information is "true" or "false" in the first place
Ross's case is a perfect illustration of just how out of control the modern FBI is. Hoover set them loose to be his own secret police and no president since has had the balls to stand up to them. They routinely hide/destroy evidence and rarely play within the bounds of the law. In Ross's case they deanonymized thousands of TOR users just to find him, a serious breach of ethics.
>>693043789 This. And also if you're going to fuck around, you better have at least several layers of protection and traps set up so you know when shit has been breached and they have started to look for you. He was lazy and believed no one would ever find him. Then by the time he acted to cover his ass it was too late.
>>693043861 >>693043492 >A national security letter (NSL) is an administrative subpoena issued by the United States federal government to gather information for national security purposes. NSLs do not require prior approval from a judge.
Woah, so the govt can just spy on you and your Internet connection and stuff without any approval at all? Is this constitutional?
>>693044053 For example route your traffic though a 'fake' laptop that you pay someone to use in public places. When the Fed arrest the fall guy they get nothing. But you get the advantage of the intel and traffic coming from public places. It looks like you hacked the laptop and your buddy goes free. It's a win - win but costs money and time of course. Don't be lazy and stupid or you go to jail.
>>693043789 Yeah fuck the FBI. Bunch of power tripping mother fuckers. They're shady too. If any FBI agent is reading this, please don't kill me. I have a right to the 1st ammendme, you fuckers are fishy.
>>693044188 Unfortunately yes. After 911 our judicial system went a little haywire and allowed stuff like this. Important fact: It's technically illegal to even acknowledge that you have been served one.
That's why when google discloses the number they have received they have to include a range and it includes zero. Something like 0 to 1100.
>>693044700 Yes, they can also request much more detailed information such as location data over a period of years or all IP login information to your account and build a network. The kicker: they cannot notify you by law that they have handed over your records to gov't.
>>693044860 This is why foreign VPNs have become all the rage nowadays. Even though there are alliances such as the five eyes or fourteen eyes that work together to collect intelligence. So in these countries it's not as easy to escape US surveillance if at all.
>>693045080 Google owns so much of the Internet's infrastructure that it's almost impossible to get away from it. In addition, the vast majority of the internet infrastructure is inside the US or at least the traffic goes through the US so it's very easy to find at least one company to get data from.
>>693045047 I wondered this. So is VPN even a safe option anymore? I guess technically nothing from your location is every really safe. You need to decouple from the first location and originate packets from a second to really be safe.
>>693045329 VPN is not a silver bullet. The NSA has lists of VPN endpoints that they share with other agencies like FBI/CIA, so if they wanted to find you they could. But here's the thing, you have to make yourself stand out from the crowd to be targeted by the FBI/NSA/CIA so anything you can do to blend in is best.
That's why if you download the TOR browser, it sets the window to a generic resolution like 1024x768 because it's so common and warns you if you try to resize the window. User-agent plays a big role too.
If you want to go on tor and be anon to trade some photos then run away that's easy
If you want to run servers and a business that makes tens of millions of dollars per year net profit that is up 24/7 and deals with user support and keeping the lights on it's very easy to fuck up, especially if they are actively looking for the person profiting from that business
Think about it, he was trying to be the CEO of a super secret ebay and keep every single thing anon?
he should have moved to a country where that was not a crime and did not extradite, he simply could not stay anon forever
The architect of it (Dread Pirate Roberts) had used some type of similarly named on-line handle or posted on topic with similar language to his recent activity on some long forgotten message board. The feds now had an old IP address and they went from there to connect the dots.
Had he kept his mouth shut he'd very likely still be a ghost.
>>693046333 There was no proof from the State. They held him on no bond because of it, then dropped the charges (he remains "unchanged"). So it wasn't him or they lacked any proof it was. But the trial wasn't about that. It was about showing they were in control still and not us. The whole Silk Road was a fuck you to the system, not about selling drugs. It was about how We The People could do what we want without Big Brother being able to stop us or control any aspect of it/us.
>>693046883 If I had 30 million, I would've left the business long before. This guy was just fucking greedy and kept going and going
Drug dealers, especially big time drug dealers like him (and small dealers) retire quick like after 3 years. The more you're in the game, the higher chance you'll get caught. Take your profits and cut it short. You made what the average citizen does in a lifetime so don't be greedy.
Smart dealers make thier millions, quit, then open a small business and live the rest of thier life as a normal citizen.
>>693046333 Also they could have easily planted the logs that claim someone was trying to hire hits. They really fucked things up when they didn't release HOW they obtained that information. Only they found things on the laptop and servers.
>>693047227 >This guy was just fucking greedy and kept going and going
He wasn't. It was part of his ideology that we were free to do what we wanted. It wasn't about the money. Neither was his previous business. And there's a good chance he wasn't even the owner of the site. Just an Admin.
>>693040997 nothing on the web is 100% anonymous otherwise it would be impossible for the web to work darkweb and tor browsers increase the anonymity the only way he could have evaded the law forever was to frequently change the servers' physical location
>>693047645 >framed Ross to take the fall. That was spoken about in the movie actually. And was his only defense in the case. SO many Admins used the DPR account that it's hard to tell who was who most times. And it's unlikely he was the owner of the site.
>>693046924 >But the trial wasn't about that. It was about showing they were in control still and not us. The whole Silk Road was a fuck you to the system, not about selling drugs. It was about how We The People could do what we want without Big Brother being able to stop us or control any aspect of it/us.
give it a rest, this guy was facilitating drug deals and trying to hire hitmen and not paying taxes on tens of millions
this guy is a criminal, he's not someone to go all BIG BROTHER WE THE PEOPLE about
>>693047936 >he's not someone to go all BIG BROTHER WE THE PEOPLE about Then you missed the whole point of the site. They could have easily sold things that were fucked up and they didn't. Drugs, yes. But not hits or children for example. And some even have credited the site to less crime stats. That's how much it made a difference and kept people safe. That's what the site was about. Not making money.
Stuff like this is what the FBI/CIA/NSA stockpile so that they can use it at a later date. https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/01/android-qualcomm-security-flaw-encryption/ They hope that it isn't brought out into the public and patched so they can exploit it in cases like Ross's.
Did I miss something? I said murder for hire WAS NOT allowed on the site. And if you think drugs are bad then you must still be in middle skool or something like that. Go do some reading and expand you mind a little.
>>693048725 I donno. I would assume there would have been several accounts for admins with funds. In case you needed to go on the run for instance. Or pay for services like new Servers. Not having all funds on one account would make sense also in case they got seized. Etc.
He would use the same screen name all the time and they found old posts he made on a forum with that same name trying to get people to go to silk road and somehow traced him from that (posting with no proxies or he wrote his name somewhere or used an e-mail that could be traced to him to sign up). This is actually what happened.
>>693049995 >michael brown was an asshole he was much more than an asshole, you retard he assaulted a store owner, stole a pack of cigars (all of this was dismissed as a "cultural" thing, too), and not only rushed towards the officer that killed him, but also reached for his gun (all of this is supported by the autopsy)
>>693045213 >Privacy is a thing of the past >Privacy is a thing of the past >Privacy is a thing of the past >Privacy is a thing of the past >Privacy is a thing of the past >Privacy is a thing of the past
>>693043114 At least someone points you fags down a path. Fuck me what u have read sounds more like what ypur American media says. You fags are the problem as you believe mainstream media. Perfect US government bitches..
DPR was arrested in a library. His downfall was an undercover agent looking to make big buys. Able to bust sellers and sieze their pcs and use their logins to get admin rights and so forth leading to an arrest. I highly doubt the guy they arrested is who the US government says he is. His trial was a farce. Your government illegally found the servers in Iceland and cloned them allowing them to control the information.
I say get behind your man. Its your country that is so fucked up in the darkness of the world. I wouldn't suprise me if they are the puppet behind ISIS and Al Quaeda..
>>693050222 Probably. EVERYONE was using the site and knew about it. It had over 1 million customers on it. You could buy kilos of anything. I'm not good with math, but a kilo of pot is a lot no less coke. So when I do the math, yeah it could have been as much as a billion. We'll never know unless the Feds release the records from the Servers. And you think they are going to do that when it means major egg on their face and openly admitting that huge amounts of drugs get sent through the mail daily?
a guy that was following him? for blocks? with a loaded gun? george zimmerman is a pussy ass faggot, and a liar. thwy let sean hannity speak on his behalf at his trial, he was never even called to the stand. trayvon was just an unarmed kid, man. that's real fucked up.
>>693050412 >all of this was dismissed as a "cultural" thing
i didn't hear that anywhere. i heard it dismissed because the responding officer hadn't even heard of the robbery, and we don't execute people for stealing anyway, but anyone who dismissed strong-arm robbery as "a cultural thing" is probably retarded, and has just outed themselves as a closet racist. where'd you hear that? twitter? tumblr? don't take the nation's pulse by assholes on the internet.
>>693051251 >he was helping to sell drugs and getting rich doing it, not saving starving children
Then you never read any of the DPR posts or why the site was up and running. I know they used big words, but you should go read a few. It speaks volumes to his humanity and visions for the site and its users.
How the fuck did SilkRoad survive anyway? Like wouldn't it be easy for undercover to pose as buyers/sellers on SilkRoad a catch a bunch of people? It would have helped if they actually kept the site up and catch buyers and sellers rather than shut it down
>>693051692 no. there's a lot of liberal bullshit. but if you really think trayvon deserved to die, which a lot of people do, you're fucked up and your worldview is flawed. /b/ isn't zeitgeist or stormfront, there's people of all kinds who come to say offensive shit. but if you think treyvon wasn't the victim of a nutjob with a gun and a racist criminal justice system, you've got something wrong with you. maybe get off /b/ and go see a therapist for a while.
>>693052167 >how would you catch the sellers? The sellers don't give you their personal info. the buyers probably weren't worth it
buy like 50 things from one seller then carefully open the boxes/track them back to where they were shipped, find patterns in where they came from for instance they might have often used one mailbox at noon on most tuesdays... wait for them there, look for fingerprints in the box shit like that, bust the guy dropping off the box and make him take you to his boss
surprised they never did that to a bunch of people then make noise about it to scare everyone else but it never happened
>>693052167 This is exactly it. The buyer is buying $100 with of coke for the weekend. The seller has 10 kilos. They want the 10 kilos for the news and PR. Not some kid with whore bait that costs hundreds of man hours of time to find.
>>693051636 Thats what they did, fuckwit. But the community on silkroad was very tight and almost like family. People were normally smart and made sure they left out any personal info (like any email they even used only once, 7 years ago). It ended up being an old email and a trusted user of silkroad whom ratted when the feds found out who he was by telling personal info for a shipment of large amount of drugs. That used fucked everybody up.
Get your facts amerifag. They put those charges on him and dropped them so he was trialled by media before even getting into a courtroom.
2 of the agents working on his case were charged and booted from the CIA. Their evidence was fine to use in court...
There were many Dead Pirate Roberts. Ross was just one of them. His main ideology was that government's should not control EVERYTHING.
Look at how many people die because of the so called war on drugs. Decriminalise drugs. Clean up your streets.. nah that wont happen to many Amerifags get rich whilst theres crime. Fucking idiotic post. Educate yourself
>>693051441 >and we don't execute people for stealing anyway, are you stupid? (don't answer this, you unironically said "besides being born black"; i already know the answer) i never said that he should be killed for stealing. i am saying stealing from and assaulting a store owner makes you much worse than an asshole.
>>693052503 They probably tried. And if you were smart you were safe.
Do you think people with millions worth of drugs are idiots? Only in the movies they are. Every one I know is a very good business man and knows what is safe and what isn't. And have good people working for them. It's not a one person shop.
make me, bitch. and i'm white, if i saw someone following me, i might stop and less than politely ask why. 911 told zimmerman to stay inside, and he followed him anyway. he's a punk bitch that got he ass whooped by a teenager. should have minded his own fucking business, but he wanted to play superhero, and ended up killing an innocent teenager (who had no criminal record). just a sad racist who can't grasp the melting pot theory.
>>693053588 >people get lazy, If you get lazy your boss will kill you and your family. Pretty good insensitive not to be a lazy fuck about things and do things as they tell you. Also, you think that no one is checking or watching the people who pack orders knowing one fuckup could bring everyone down? You're being a silly goose sir.
>>693053588 Depends on how big your operation is. If you're a one man operation you're too small fry to bother with. Anyone bigger is going to have guys working for him and already be experienced at staying under the radar.
>>693054842 fuck you, nigger. i've probably been here longer than you. how's neo-nazi summercamp? do they provide sunscreen from your chemo-looking scalps? better be a real high SPF.
>>693055205 yeah. in a fight that he started. he killed a kid with a gun because he was losing a fight he started. he should be in jail.
>>693055351 >because he reached for the officer's gun. conveniently, there's no footage of the incident, so we'll never know. it's the cops words against a dead man. at the very least, it's a good argument for mandatory body cams.
Don't trust any kind of encryption. The government can force any company to include backdoors or provide the keys. Ever heard of Lavabit? Just ckeck it on Wiki... There are already Webshops (e.g. airlines) showing different prices for different people. With our smartphones, wr provide a nice set of data, too....
>>693056212 You're a idiot. Trayvon drug Zimmerman out of his vehicle, opening a door to a car in florida is the same as opening a door to a house.. Zimmerman could have blasted his ass right there, legally. I bet you believe the chopped and re-edited 911 calls too. Idiot. Grow up, grow a brain, and stop sucking so much black cock. There still may be hope for you, you faggot.
>>693056212 > so we'll never know. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/report-autopsy-suggests-michael-brown-reached-ferguson-officers-gun-n231391 >Dr. Judy Melinek, a forensic pathologist not involved in the autopsy, told the newspaper that the finding “supports the fact that this guy is reaching for the gun, if he has gunpowder particulate material in the wound.” Melinek also told the newspaper that the autopsy did not support witness accounts that the fatal shot, later, was fired while Brown was running away from the officer or had his hands up.
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