Paedophilia a sexual orientation - like being straight or ga

>>692657054
no it's not. sexual orientation refers to gender

>>692657294
/thread

Pedofeelsia are a condition of psychology like dependent personality disorder or obsessive compulsive disorder

>>692657054
Pedophilia is a gender identity.
> Triggered

>>692657054
>orientation

clearly you mean fetish

So a gay pedophile is actually a recruiter?

Pedophilia is a nationality like british disorder or nigger

>>692657054

Well if the research is proving it then I'm not going to argue against it because muh feelings and muh moral high ground.

Right now, Germany is doing extensive research on pedophiles and trying to get them help and whatever, so hopefully we'll have more information in a few years, and be able to determine if it can be cured, or if we can at least find a substitute that doesn't endanger children.

We could have had this research done fucking -years- ago in America but every time you even mention pedophiles you get the typical "KILL THEM ALL" and "CASTRATION IS THE CURE LOL" responses.

We fucking hate learning in Clapistan.

Being a pedo is suffering. I can't seem to shake it from me.

>>692657054
is the pic supposed to be on topic? cause that would not be considered pedo you faggot. that's hebe at best

>>692659547
>hebe at best
I've seen better

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faggots, WE dont need defending from kikes, all they want children (especially White) to be whores. WE already have great pedos like Lewis Carroll and John Ruskin. great Whire Pedos. pedophilia make me care about children feelings and made me donate money to ill kid. but I dont want it to be legal. real pedos must protect children from sexual abuse, molseting, degeneracy and cp etc.

>>692659803

What are you even talking about?

dont u think that its paedophilia is a new term.
50 years ago in europe, marrying a 12 year old was considered NORMAL.
paedophilia is a disease term of the XXI century...

>>692659803
Brilliant! We'll spread acceptance of pedophilia through clapping and large crowds. Then when they aren't forced into shame and hiding, they can be the defenders of our young. Pedo-run nurseries, pedo-staffed playschools. We can finally relax knowing our svelt nubile children are in safe wandering hands.

>>692659803
She's cute.

>>692660314
12 year olds were not seen as children anymore. If you grew tits and had you first bloody underwear or sheets or whatever, you were an adult.

>>692660906
Force society to accept it as normal and healthy, just like homosexuality.
You wait, in 30 years acceptance of adult child sexual relationships will be forced on us and pedophiles will have the same legal protections as now exist for homosexuals.

Paedophilia is illegal because it is a fucking huge taboo. That, and because the girls biologically, and at times mentally, are not developed enough.
Most people, i think, look at pedophiles and think of them as someone who would rape a child any given time they could get away with it, which is highly unlikely. Pedophilea is a sexual attraction to underage girls, yes, but it is rarely that pedophiles ultimately live out their fantasy.
Who renembers the quote from the movie Nymph()maniac? From 2013?
The woman mentions something regarding pedophiles, since their only sexual attraction is highly illegal and taboo.
Since it is a sexual preference or attraction like homosexuality or whatever, it is to some extent a sexual orientation, but it is still fucking taboo.
We have come to accept homosexuality and no longer consider it a disease, but treat pedophilia the same way we did homosexuality some 50+ years ago.
Fucking hell, i dont know where to stand on this, both sides are both right and wrong at the same time...

pedophilia is a racial alignment, like oriental flavor or muslim

>>692661444

But I love oriental flavored ramen noodles.

inb4 pedophiles get same acceptance as gay rights in a few years time

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cp?

>>692657054
it is... sexual orientation is what you are attracted to, some people only get aroused from fat chicks for example

but that has no bearing on why its illegal to fuck kids or take pix of them etc

im fine with animated shit tbh... whatever gets you off as long as you dont touch kids. I consider it the same as those idiots that poop on each other while they fuck.

>>692657054

Pedo's are attracted to PREPUBESCENT girls. It's a disorder. Being attracted to the girl in the pic is NOT a disorder she is of child rearing age. Biologically there is nothing wrong with fucking teenage girls. However it's not healthy psychologically to fuck them, society has deemed, so it's illegal if they're under 16/18.

>>692660314
50 years ago might be a bit of a stretch

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paedophilia are fucking basterds

>>692657054
>foot fetish, shoe fetish, stocking fetish, necrophilia is a sex orientation
u nigger dont know whats an orientation here

>>692661444
>forgeting Islam is an ideology not a race

>>692661805
No they're fucking children. Though I guess some of them might be basterds

>>692657054
Who cares? Within 50 years time it will be legal, or they will just lower the age of consent significantly.

>>692661971
If someone is attracted to a 2 year old, then I don't think it's pedophillia anymore, it's something different (forget what it's called doe)

>>692662095
they are bastards.

>>692661349
The difference is that gay people aren't hurting anyone by having sex with each other. Molesting children kinda fucks them up.

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im torn on this because i currently have a daughter. But also look at it this way. If a girl whos too young has a kid it can potentially hurt her physically. Lets say a kid has a baby at lets say 13yo. they def arent mentally capable of raising a child nor even financially capable. On that note what about porn. You know someone would recommend it be legal. IDK how that would work honestly

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>>692657054

>>692661877
Islam is a sexual orientation, like being straight or gay (or really gay)

>>692662285
it's Paedophilia woman

>>692662406
Yes

>>692662285
How long have you been fucking your daughter man?

>>692662272
Yes it fucks them up their holes

>>692657054
Naturally, humans used to develop mentally a lot faster, but plateau faster too. By the time you were 14 you were an adult, but the down side was, few adults had a better mentality than your average teenager.

Nowadays the bodies mature quicker, but mentally they're developing much slower, yet are able to continue developing for much longer before plasticity turns the brain rigid, crabby and unreceptive to new ideas, yielding more creativity, innovation, & productivity.

While great for governments and richfags reaping the $ off these labors, that's what's pointed to as the excuse for denying us all those sweet delicious 12 year old buttholes to squeeze into.

Eh. The Greeks managed to invent democracy, philosophy, and western civilization buttfucking kids all the live long day.

>>692659169
exactly the type of responces i saw when OP's link was on facebook. it may not be entirely their fault for their mindset, but who fucking cares right? but when it comes to all these fucking sissy marries floating around with all their self diagnosed mental illnesses they want special treatment.

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>>692662493
long enough to realize troll when i see one faggot

>>692661349
are you fuckin' crazy ????
Child sexuality will never be accepted anywhere, even if our politics really like childs. Child molesters will never be accepted by the people except if our population is cunningly perverted years after years by a mass-manipulation programm. But we're not that idiot.

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>>692662272
>gay people aren't hurting anyone by having sex with each other
tell that to the guy who just found out he is positive

>>692657054
More of her

>>692662581

Dude, you didn't see any comments on Facebook about -not- castrating pedophiles. Come on, man.

>>692662216
It's not called a doe.
A doe is an adult female deer.

Unless you meant "though", in which case, quit noggin, nigger.

>>692662913

What a useful insightful comment.

>>692662887
i was generalizing. but the vast majority were murder. maybe 1 in 20 were at least saying they should seek help or help should be provided.

>>692662768
>tell
how did you get it?

>>692662887
I don't see comments on Facebook ever, thank fuck. I don't give a fuck about the precious worthless thoughts of the worlds powerless plebs.

go to the nambla website they have a doctor there that says sex with children doesn't fuck them up its allready there we will be tucking kids a 100 years from now

>>692662216
Pedophilia: A primary (or an exclusive) sexual attraction toward pre-pubescent children.

Hebephilia: A primary (or an exclusive) sexual attraction toward pubescent children.

Teleiophilia: A primary (or an exclusive) sexual attraction toward adults.

The more you know

>>692661971
it depends in the object. If u had a hot mom, sister or daughter, u might want to fuck em.

>>692662739
Yeah, and 50 years ago they said the same thing about faggots. Now we have positive gay role models on television shows gay marriage and special hate-crimes legislation designed to protect games from being bashed.

>>692663112

I feel like people put pedophile and sex offender in the same category, when not even all sex offenders are pedophiles.

Not only that, when Americans think of pedophiles, they're not thinking of pre-pubescent children. They're thinking of literally anyone under the age of 18. Hell, even if she's 19 and you're 41 they'll still call you a pedophile.

We have no fucking idea what the word even means, let alone how to treat it other than "lol bullet to the head!"

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>>692663168
i let an infected guy empty his seed in me arse

>>692661604
MODS

>>692662561
>I'm a creep: the post

>>692663203
Physical damage is just part of it, there's also the issue of informed consent, and when cp is legalized, child labor. I'm not saying it won't happen eventually (greeks) but I think it will take a complete civilization overhaul before it does.

>>692657054
ive been saying this for years

>>692662466

i doubt she is a peadophile since that would imply she is attracted to the boy. As she is probably a stripper, this is most likely just "work" for her. At most you can call her a child molester.

wont take an overhaul were moveing towards a progressive utopia at lightening speeds and so far its going exactly as i thought years ago

>>692664051
It's not like female pedos don't exists.

Like most people in this thread should say but don't, because they're opinionated assholes: I don't fucking know, I'm not a psychologist.

>>692663336

Ephebophilia: the primary or exclusive adult sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19.

>>692663409
That's not the same you fuckin ...... i don't fin what word could describe you. I'm so angry by reading what you just wrote.....
OMG WHAT KIND OF PIECE OF SHIT ARE YOU ???
Gay people have always been persecuted, but they were still adults, are you fuckin compring gay people and children ???

Children don't want to have sexual rights, PEDOS want children to have sexual rights, that's the fuckin difference ....

OMG you should win an award for your stupidity, I really think you are the most stupid person going to 4chan EVER.

Just Kill Yourself please, you shouldn't have any right to think.

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first fags
then trannies
then pedos

>>692663409
Children don't have a choice dumb dumb, adult gay men did.

>>692663409
So? Fifty years ago we gave kids mercury to play with and used asbestos as a salad topping, now they're banned. Does this mean other, unrelated and perfectly safe materials will be banned in the next fifty years? No. Not unless they're found to kill us. If child sex is bad for children, which it is, it won't be legal. You might want to check your logic, looks a bit slippy.

>>692664349
I kind of agree with what you're saying, but Jesus Christ, the way you write is annoying.

>>692664337
that's the one I am. 16-19 year old girls YESPLZKTHX

>>692664683
So you're pretty much an average male then?

>>692664647
Yup i know, being angry + not english speaking is hard sometimes

That's school learning english, but i still wanted to shut the fuck up to this motherfucker

>>692664349

You type like you're from Facebook.

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anyone who doesn't like pedophiles should grow up

>>692664922
explain ???

>>692664922
>>692664349
Why you both focusing on my way to speak english whereas there are fuckers like this ??>>692663409

>>692664631

It's bad if it's rape. We haven't been able to actually prove it's bad if the child "thinks" they're consenting. Instead, we ironically proved that what makes the child think something is wrong (with them now) is telling them something is wrong (with them now).

Which is something that only happens in Clapistan.

Valar Paedalis

>>692665164


sorry, was talking to you too
>>692664647

>>692665164

Speaking in a not strictly negative way about pedophilia or even gay people isn't uncommon on 4chan, much less /b/. So after a while you get desensitized to the comments on an emotional level, and just respond to them plainly without any sort of emotional input.

>>692665164
It's really just hard to read. You pretty much said all there was to say so why would I bother repeating you?

I'd start with using a lot less caps lock. Then stop using punctuation like it's a pick 'n' mix. Use one question mark, one period (or three if you want to give it a '...' effect). Makes everything way more readable, and actually makes anything you type come across as more convincing.

>>692665466
But there is sarcasm and stupidity.
Sarcastic people are sometimes funny, but stupid people like him think they're right

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>>692665312
valar voyeurus

>>692657294

This.

>>692664349
>Children don't want to have sexual rights

Some do, and a lot of them cam whore. There's a lot wrong with that, but we shouldn't pretend they don't exist.

And on the issue of """""consent""""", why do we allow parents/doctors to circumcise boys without any sort of consent? The double standards are atrocious.

>>692665542
I'll try, thank you professor

>>692664435
Then tardtatoes, then fetuses, then horses and ducks, then unicorns. Do you what causal connection is, anon? Slippery slope fallacy? You sound like a creationist arguing that we can't change our understanding from the bible's literal word because What's Next After?! Soon We'll All Just Be Harlots And Murderers!

>>692665765
keep it cummin

>>692665071

i see ...

>>692665071
Kek'd

>>692663409
Pretty much this, its just a matter of time before having sex with children becomes, once again, something normal.

>>692664349
>He mad

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>>692666031
>>692666061

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>>692666290
pizza party!

>>692666290
Still more clothes than underwear models the same age

>>692665947

A lot of them cam whore .... aha
I don't think cam whoring children decide on their own to do this, just a fucked up business

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>>692666197
>>692666404
>>692666412

>>692662285
It is not dangerous because a child's micro dick can't harm a big adult pussy.

>>692665947
Fucking baby mutilators stole all the good nerve endings from me god dammit

>>692665947

Don't sit here and pretend anyone is talking about male children, anon. We don't give a fuck about them. If you look at literally any article, even in the one about 40% of UK's pedophiles being female, the only thing people can talk about is cutting off dicks and shooting men in the head for being pedophiles.

I mean, how do you castrate a woman anyway? Besides, children who are molested and raped by women are obviously in a better position than those molested and raped by men. If it's a little boy he probably wanted it anyway, yeah?

>>692666416
>I don't think cam whoring....

They do. They don't even get any money. They just get attention, and for teenagers that's a currency in and of itself. The idea that if you're not an adult you're completely innocent each and every single time whenever you do anything wrong whatsoever, is a poison.

That's how dindus are born.

>>692666659
Those girls have natural whore eyes

>>692666871
You noticed eh?

I don't know but some girls just have this "whore" eyes or "bitch" eyes and you can immediately tell without even talking to them that they will be a whore or a bitch.

>>692666871
No shit dude they're Ukrainian.

>>692662272

>Molesting children kinda fucks them up.

Except it doesn't.

There is absolutely 0 evidence AND no logical explanation for the equation: "non-forced, non-cohersive sex = traumatization". Something bad actually has to happen for that to occur. This is nothing more than 20th century feminazi propaganda.

RAPE, as in FORCING them to have sex or using sex as a punishment, for example, does, though age doesn't matter with that one.

The only other possible way is by manipulating them to think that they are victims, that what they were doing was wrong, or that they were harmed by it despite clearly not having been harmed, which is ironic considering how much people supposedly are against "manipulation". Fucking hypocrites.

>>692666973
Cool dude.

>>692665947
>why do we allow parents/doctors to circumcise boys

lol u americunt

>>692657294
Incorrect
Sexual orientation refers to sexual orientation
Gender identity refers to gender
Try reading a book once on a while

>>692661354
>Pedophilea is a sexual attraction to underage girls

Nope, try again.

>>692666713
Children are esily influenced. Cam whoring children didn't grow up in a stable background

>>692667040
Interesting idea, never really thought about why seemingly consensual sex at a young age would be traumatizing. Should probably read up on that.

>>692667040

Hey man I already said that here >>692665184

You stop stealing my thunder, anon.

>>692665071
pedophiles are fucking immature assholes

Ask an actual pedophile anything

>>692667278

That is not true and no sort of research has ever proved or even leaned in that direction.

>>692667378
Ha!

>>692666416
I certainly agree that some might be forced to do it, but with the rapid pace that technology is becoming part of children's (and everyone's) lives, it's inevitable that some will find out an east way to get attention online.

>>692666713
Correct, good job. If a younger boy "gets it" with an older woman, even just a kiss, people applaud him for being a man. There are plenty of prank/social experiment videos on YouTube where younger boys pick up adult women. Those videos are generally received neutrally. However, try filming a young girl picking up older guys prank, not only will the guys run away, but such a video will be received unfavorably.

>>692666973
That pic is meant to become a meme but I have no ideas

>>692659207
Just jerk it and keep it to yourself.

If that's the biggest problem you have in life, you've got it easy.

>>692665184
But that's presuming it IS healthy for them to have sex, since morality and conduct are learned concepts. If we don't actually base the teaching of conduct on healthy, emotionally stable ground, we can make up shit all day. It's like the problem of eskimo infanticide. To those backward fucks, killing babies was perfectly acceptable, nobody lost sleep. But they were STILL KILLING BABIES. And I don't know who you think 'proved' child sex to be harmless (based on their learned perceptions?) I say FUCKING KIDS WILL FUCK EM UP FOR LIFE whether or not everybody pretends it's okay. Sexual practise should be preceded by sexual desire. Puberty first, then diddle as much as your culture wants

>>692667378
Yes they are

>>692661805
Lrn 2 grammar propering.

>>692667174
Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.

Actually, anon got it right faggot. Take your bullshit back to alienland

>>692662285
>doesn't realize there are such things as petite women
>doesn't realize that any woman, no matter how large, can die from blood loss, during birth
You're how old?

>>692667124
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define:sexual+orientation

>>692664349
>PEDOS want children to have sexual rights
Not all, faggot.

>>692667040
>There is absolutely 0 evidence AND no logical explanation for the equation: "non-forced, non-cohersive sex = traumatization".

>The only other possible way is by manipulating them to think that they are victims, that what they were doing was wrong, or that they were harmed by it despite clearly not having been harmed

Objectively speaking, this is all true. I doubt any serious scientific studies have been done on psychological harm as a result of non-forced sex. If I am wrong, feel free to link to the studies.

Many of the people who are traumatized as a result of sexual experiences in their childhood are that way because they were raped or otherwise forced to do things against their will. We never hear from the ones that were not traumatized because they don't think it's a big issue. How can they lead perfectly healthy, happy lives despite being exposed to the "ruin your life" experiences early?

sexual orientation is such bullshit. unlike gender identity, sexuality is fluid. and unlike the gender binary, gay and straight are socially constructed as well as pedophilia. this is because the way gender is expressed and sex is percieved is faulty.

i'll put it this way. if being a straight man means he is attracted to women and not attracted to men, then what about the women to whom he's not attracted to? if they are women, does this make him a little bit gay?

this is also why the arguement for traps being straight or gay is retarded. people dont look for men or women in sexuality, they look for physical features. most of which can be found on men and women alike. some guys like ass, some guys like big titties, some guys like flat chests, some guys like landwhales, etc. its not just sex and gender, those are just general signifiers.

>>692663871
Do you know what creep means, or are you just another fuckin teenage girl that using that word to elevate your unwanted status.

No ones creepin on your fat ass.

>>692667690

It hasn't been proved to be harmless in all instances, but it's been shown that the actual "trauma", in instances where there was "consent", wasn't from the sex itself, but from people telling the child "Hey, be traumatized. You're different now and I will treat you as such".

I don't know enough about Eskimos to refute anything at the beginning. I've only just learned that allegedly they kill babies.

My whole thing is this, if science, research, and evidence says "Alright here it is", I'm going to still have my -beliefs-, but I'm not going to present them as facts if they aren't factual, just to feed into the hivemind.

For instance, if you're viciously fucking a 4 year old in the ass, what the fucking fuck. But if you're fucking a 12 year old it's like "That's going to backfire on you when she's older", but I'm not going to tell her she's scarred for life. Everyone else will do that for me.

>>692657294
Retard

>>692658560
all sexual preferences are learned and developed through childhood experience, theyre just inherent and involuntary compared to personality disorders which the patient is in full control of

>>692668061
You're so fucking stupid

>>692668228
Yeah, businessmen who are protected by the law, they don't want children to have sexual rights, you're right.

But kill yourself

>>692668512
>>692668610

My god, you are stupid as fuck.

>>692668512
>personality disorders which the patient is in full control of

'tard

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>>692668324
I think you're wrongly criticising a general categorisation. You're not gay for not liking fat women, that's a moronic thing to say. Rather, we have constructed an attraction binary which doesn't always describe people 100%.

Plenty of people like one gender the most, maybe like another gender a little bit and don't consider themselves bisexual. It doesn't mean the whole concept of sexual orientation is suddenly bullshit, it just means that there's a little nuance to it that you apparently can;t comprehend.

>>692657054
I can't be the only one that has a sexual urge looking at the OP pic.. am I fucked?

>>692665947
Sexual urges are developed biologically. Just because kids like attention and fucked up adults focus their lust on them doesn't make it an even playing field. And if they want to rub their baby errogenous zones to feel good like a back scratch, cool, they can figure their bodies out, and we should accept that. Participation of an adult introduces a lust that children can't understand biologically. The attraction they feel is to attention and approval from a figure in power over them, as all adults are. It's always rape.

>>692668005
Underage and prepubescent are not the same you asshole.

>>692669011
Yes their you stupid fuck

>>692669011
all prepubescents are underage you retard

>>692664349

This is bait.

That being said, considering I am a pedophile, I have not once ever wanted children to have a sexual right. The developmental years are the most important one to them and sexual interaction can ingrain ideas of sex that aren't true. People aren't meant to be mindless fuck machines and no one has any right to force sex on anyone regardless of gender, age, or identity. I don't need to have sex with a child, even if I'm attracted to them, nor would I ever want to subject one to a possible future similar to my own. It's the same self control that keeps people from haplessly raping someone else and the idea that you believe that because they're attracted to someone that they have to have sex with it shows that you're a narrow minded moron who has none of that anyway.

tl;dr I don't need to have sex with a child and so I wont, for everyone's sake in that predicament.

>>692669057
In Fuck yeah America, underage means under 18.

>>692669057
Underage = under the legal age of consent in a country
Pre-pubescent = child before puberty

Jesus Christ this isn't rocket science.

Post more pics

>>692669009

So you have an opinion with zero scientific evidence and you're using it as a basis for fact.

Understood.

>>692669195
Yeah but we are talking about 1st world countries here.

>>692669291
Agreed, sfw though

>>692664349

>Children don't want to have sexual rights

That's possibly the most delusional thinking I've ever read. Kill yourself.

You don't know shit about child sexuality. I remember having sexual fantasies from as young as three or four years old and have heard of MANY MANY people in similar or even more sexual situations without being "traumatized". They just tend to not to talk about it publicly because of pieces of shit like you, trying to turn them into victims, though I have seen a few situations where it happened, only resulting in more proof that society wants you to believe you're a victim by them saying "hurr durr u need help, ur obviously traumatized lol I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about".

You are literally cancer of society. Once again, kill yourself.

>>692669133

Retard you are an asshole you piece of shit fuck go fuck yourself with fucking fuck you retard

>>692669245
Yeah it isnt rocket science, yet you are too stupid to get it.

>>692669465
What part of the two definitions that I gave you is wrong?

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I watched an interesting video on the subject... it really put the whole pedophilia issue into perspective for me. If anyone's interested here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RqgFl2jGdI

>>692657054
Not all pedos are child molesters.

I say if you screw a 7 year old your ass should be locked up but a 16 or 17 year old that's just ridiculous to think that should get someone locked away for a long time.

>>692669601

Make sure you log out of your google account and/or access that site only via tor-vpn.

Because otherwise Mother Google will know that you are privately worried about being a pedo.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMyf_LinnHM

>>692662768
It's not our fault you're an idiot that doesn't use condoms.

>>692669565
The part when you were born

>>692668861
When did the media say girls should have a penis.....ever??

>>692669009

>Judy has sex with a boy her age
>turns into a huge slut

>Samantha has sex with an older male
>turns into a huge slut

I'm not seeing what the "adult" factor has to do with anything, other than maybe teaching your children sexual moderation and the values that accompany it. Sex is enjoyable (for many), they're going to seek it out regardless of who actually answers the call.

An older person isn't inherently taking advantage of them for the sake of taking advantage of them, and you're making the assumption that -all- instances of adults (over AoC) with those under the AoC are done with ill intent.

>>692668824
Personality disorders are entirely defined by behaviors and thought processes. They aren't based on neurology whatsoever.

>>692669782
You probably think I'm the guy you were arguing with before, therefore you want to disagree with what I said. You can't think of anything, so you're being a childish cunt. Let me spell it out:

1. Not all underage people are pre-pubescent.
2. Therefore being pre-pubescent and being underage are not the same thing.

Am I just insane or is that flawless logic?

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All gays are pedophiles

>>692662768

This is what pisses me off about all this FABULOUS HOMOSEXUALS bullshit.

How many HIV+ guys are in that situation for buying into that stuff?

Sounds like a lot of easy money for the pharmas who are busy selling antivirals to that community.

Just like the law enforcement agencies making a lot of easy arrests by promoting pedophilia, and then arresting careless idiots who fall into that scheme.

>>692669811
DUBS speak the truth 100%

I am a pedo, but not a daganerate. there will be more degenearacy, anons. it's the end of time WE live in. but never give up. YOU are the right ones, objective GOOD and objective evil exist.

>>692670024
lost.jpeg

>>692668326
>>692668862
>You're not gay for not liking fat women, that's a moronic thing to say
I didn't say that. I was just pointing out how theres a lot of flaws with the categorisations based on sex because its really about general physical characteristics.

I'm not denying the clear trend in nature where people are attracted to the opposite sex. Labels like gay, straight, bi, ace, or whatever the fuck tumblr made up today do make it simple to describe these trends in sexuality. However, I'm saying that these terms are arbitrary and innacurate as descriptors, and sexuality much more complex than the percieved sex of the object of attraction.

>>692670139
For some reason im unable to see your pic, what is it?

>>692670024
this is the worst case of duck/rabbit i've ever seen, took me a while

>>692668824
>diagnosed personality disorder detected

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You guys will solve nothing by arguing in this thread. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. This is an issue with TOO MANY FACTORS, and it cannot be resolved with a single answer.

The best way to go about it would be to drop all assumptions and everything you've been taught and start with a blank slate. Collect objective evidence on a per-case basis and make a judgement as to whether or not it's a sexual orientation, disease, whatever.

The amount of studies on this is ridiculously low, and bias in existing studies hampers effective conclusions. Just look at pic related. I highly doubt that is true, and it probably isn't because of the lack of a random sample.

>>692669649
Food for thought: what if the 7 year old stumbles across a movie on Netfilx or whatever that depicts sex and wants to try it. What would be the appropriate response?

And I agree with the 16 or 17 thing.

Personally, I think anything over puberty is should be none of the business of anyone else. However, we should do our best to educate about birth control control and diseases. Which does happen, because I remember sex-ed in 6th grade, when everyone was around 11/12.

>>692670351
fuck i quoted the wrong person.
first quote ignore this

>>692670351
Of course they're arbitrary, they're a way for us to categorise people. However, if a guy considers himself straight, he's going to be sexually attracted to women with favourable characteristics. This is what we call straight, and I don't see what the problem with that is.

>>692670016

I think he's not understanding how it can't be used as an if-then statement.

Ex. If all underage people are pre-pubescent, then all pre-pubescents are underaged.

This would be a true statement, but not -all- underaged people are pre-pubescent (unless you're in Mexico), which is what makes it false. If 18 is the AoC, and I'm 17, then I'm underaged. But I can shoot milk out of my wiener, so I'm not pre-pubescent.

I don't know what the problem is myself.

>>692669408
You're talking about children dude ... two 4year-old children playing doctor together is normal, I used to be a normal child too. But 4year-old children having sex with an adult is a different thing, and I'm talking about this.

>>692670487

What is this even supposed to be a study for

Pedophiles are attracted to kids because their brains are fucked up, the chemicals that makes you attracted to people of similar age doesn't work for them. It's a mental disorder, not a sexual orientation. They should develop a treatment for it, but since it's a taboo, getting the funds is virtually impossible. Society would not approve this ''generosity'' to pedos. It's not their fault they are sexually attracted to kids.

But it's theirs if they decide to rape someone. The child aspect is sad, but it is only normal to them in their minds.

>>692665765
wow

>>692671000
THEY ARE NOT MACHINES! YOU'RE FUCKING RETARDED!

>>692660314
50? No, at that time ot was only normal for girls of around 15.
A 100 years ago? 1 period is enough

>>692666659
that leftttttttt

middles not bad either.

>>692671130
We are machines, our brain is just a computer, stupid bitch

>>692665765
Bump for more

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>>692671247
what are the chemicals called that make us attracted to age? YOU DON'T KNOW BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST

>>692671453
I only have more, mmm... questionable age ones.

Do you still want it?

>>692671000
>Pedophiles are attracted to kids because their brains are fucked up, the chemicals that makes you attracted to people of similar age doesn't work for them.
What are these chemicals?? Oxytocin?
Sexual preferences are based on neural pathways.

>It's a mental disorder, not a sexual orientation.
The attraction itself can't be pathologised. There has to be other issues like impuslivity around children or thinking it's ok to rape kids. Even then this is all behavioral, there's no neurological pathology that causes this.

>>692671458
I'm not the first guy so I don't know, BUT, I think we're just machines

>>692671672
machines are created for a purpose

>>692671645
I-i-if you feel like it anon! :O

>>692671799
Whoa dude, thats deep

>>692671645
Well sfw is best, but uhm, alright

>>692661354
>it is a fucking huge taboo
Kind of like penetrating another mans anus with your penis used to be?

>>692670921
I don't know. It just shows up in WolframAlpha when you search "pedophilia".

>>692669811
Maybe, anon, maybe. In any case it's a moot point for us here today. We already live in this culture with it's twisted ashamed 'teachings' about sex and that's inescapably ingrained in every fiber of our traditions. A child who has sex in this culture will inevitably look back at it as weird/bad/confusing. Maybe it isn't ingrained but it's still inevitable. That's where I have to lay down my phone and bow out. Tfw you've been arguing with a recovered pedo. Tfw you sound just like I used to before the therapy when I justified my loli habit.

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>>692671653
>>It's a mental disorder, not a sexual orientation.
>The attraction itself can't be pathologised.

"Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

I know the fact that it is a mental disorder is very inconvenient for you, but that's your problem, not mine.

>>692658776
Well, that depends.. The word fetish describes a thing that one can't be aroused without. If one can still be aroused and satisfied without the fetish, it is not a fetish, it is a sexual orientation.

I was raped at age 10 by some perv pedo who tricked me into coming into his house. A neighbour. Just once. I never told anyone as a child, kept it a bitter secret, which filled me with hate. As an adult I've learned to cope with it, as just an incident which should not have happened but did happen and about which I can do nothing.

Mynown attraction to young girls has existed as long as I can remember, since age 6 at least. In my 50's it's as strong as ever. But exists only as an attraction, an idle pastime as I watch beautiful, intelligent young girls from about age 8 to 13 with fervent interest. Never touched a child inappropriately, never will. I'm married, have a son and a daughter. Neither has had anything to worry about from me and I've been an exceptional father, both growing up to be healthy, sane adults.

Is this attraction natural? I believe so. Nothing about it changed because of the attack against me. I've always lusted after girls, that's all. And I've known since I was a teenager that doing anything about it was wrong. That part was informed by the attack. I knew the man who did it was a bad person, weak willed, unable to control his desire, resulting in harm to myself. I would never inflict that kind of harm on a child.

>>692670895

It's just proving the existence of sexual exploration and thus sexual thoughts. Now, at 4, they're (probably) not going to fuck (although I do know some children who have), but as they get older, this exploration and these interests are going to become more blatant and more questions are going to be asked.

Now, if you're living outside of America, you're probably just going to explain what's the deal with penises and vaginas, but otherwise you'll say "Oh that's icky never do that again and don't talk to me about it either". Which, the media is just -FULL- of sexual...everything, so they'll figure out what goes where on their own, without any sort of influence saying "Yeah but don't post it online". (They're like 11-12 at this point)

Which is fine. While I got handjobs, blowjobs, and all sorts of other neat shit before I turned 10 (none of which did I initiate), I feel like after puberty, it's fair game. In every single solitary other species -other- than (American) humans, it's fair game. And even still only after like 1920 or some shit.

That's when sexual rights (whatever the fuck that means) comes in. They say "Oh I want to fuck" and we say "No you don't". And that's literally it. We don't say why, why not, how we know this, if it's true, or anything of that nature, because can't actually prove it. We just say they can't.

So they can't.

>>692672056
it also says on wikipedia that you're a massive faggot

>>692672155
did you like being raped

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>>692672213
[citation needed]

>>692667124
You're wrong.

>>692672282
No. Faggot.

>>692659803
MOOOOODS

>>692671653

Their brains are wired differently. When they see a child they have a sexual response, instead of a nurturing one.

>>692672155
Share rape story.

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>>692659803
reported to fbi

>>692672056
I didnt know psychiatrists were the holy arbiters of the one truth.
Definitions are fragile and always up for debate. Prove to me that it's a mental disorder by using the characteristics of pedophilia itself as a source.

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>>692672545
Kill yourself.

>>692671000
>chemicals that makes you attracted to people of similar age doesn't work for them

Then what about people who are attracted to both children and adults?

Some more things to think about: is being attracted to this >>692665765 biologically incorrect? Facts or science only, no subjective ethics.

>>692672570
Again, no. Faggot.

>>692672023

It's an *American culture thing. I have never known any other culture or society to ostracize children for their sexuality, because in other cultures they're taught that nudity is a normal and natural thing, and so is sex.

So they'll only look back on it as weird/bad/confusing if someone tells them "Oi bruv, that was weird/bad/confusing. Yer a freak now. Get therapy".

Literally why would you bother justifying loli? Whacking it to kids that don't exist who don't have the features of actual children? What is there to justify? Shit's fake.

>>692672684
plz, post rekt asshole