>tfw gf and I both work full time and still have to go to

>>685669083
where do you live? city im from ottawa just curious cause the variance in life cost is huge across the country

>>685669083
how is that even possible?
How much do you spend on food? Housing? What other major expense do you have?

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>>685669083
try living anywhere in all of vancouver.

normal sized 2 story house
>1.5mil
its fucking retarded, its all cause of the Chinese buying up all the houses from overseas

>>685669402
Belleville Ontario

I'm so sick of being in poverty that I'll probably kill myself soon

>>685669653
move to TO and rent.

>>685669653
hmm thats odd living cost is pretty fucking low there are you and oxy addict?

>>685669748
4th most expensive city in north america, also it sucks so hard

>>685669795
No, everything is just expensive as fuck in canada

>>685669925
move to the states homie, houses are cheap as fuck across the border

>>685669852
whats wrong with TO? its not even that bad. my gf and i just make 4 bucks over minimum and live comfortably

>>685669083
I live in London, UK. The cost of living here is retarded as well + the city is too big for my liking. I was thinking of moving to Canada as it is still less expensive than UK. If I get a job in Toronto then at least I will be able to rent something more decent than here and can do contract work in the land of freedom.

Lol what

Minimum wage in Ontario is 11.25. If you work 40 hours a week at that your after tax income is around 1500 dollars. Each! 3k take home each month. How much are you fucking spending on rent that you can't afford to feed your stupid self?

>>685670068
too much bull shit there now too many ppl too mant shitty by laws and cash grabs. you cant even park overnight on the street in the suburbs anymore without getting a ticket. they wanna be like NY its just played out

>>685670027
I've thought about moving to the US because things are actually affordable there

>>685669083
I live in NB, work like 4 shifts a week in a kitchen and I live pretty comfortably.

>>685670217
try it out. TO has a good amount of jobs

>>685670297
suit yourself. I like it

>>685669420
so are you going to answer me?
Or are you just trolling?

>>685669925
many i pay over 1000 in rent have a dog and sped over 150 a week on food and i work a job that requires no education and only work 24 hrs a week. i know for a fact that bellville living cost is low as fuck you can rent full houses for less that 500 a month. maybe your problem is money management not the environment.

>>685670524
Rent is 1100 and that's without utilities and with utilities it's around 1900 a month

>>685670262

wrong math is wrong

>>685670521
i did suit my self and moved away. up in the capital now but they're on the road to hell here too,

>>685670346
Lol I'd rather be poor in Canada than poor in the US at least if I get sick I won't die in the streets

>>685670588
U wot? A 1 bedroom apartment is 850 you idiot

>>685670681
mine in TO is 1K utils included.

>>685670521
I am planning to come with a visit next year first to check it out. Also I want to get another 2 years of job experience in UK. With 4 years of software development experience it looks decent for living.

>>685670681
there is no way you should be paying that much.
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-2-bedroom-apartments-condos/belleville/299-st-lawrence-st-east-in-madoc-ontario/1158673520?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

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>>685669083
I live on lakeshore in Toronto. Own a condo by the lake. Its not bad you just need to manage your money.

Do you do drugs and thats why you cant manage?

>I live on my own

>60k+ a year

>>685670842
i really recommend it. i live in TO so ask me anything while the thread lasts

>>685669083
get a better job nigger, or budget better.

Damn nigger, for 1000$ I can pay my rent (util included) and buy groceries for an entire month.

>>685669544
oh lol dude youre so lucky living there in canada

here in essen kettwig (germany)
a house costs 4m+
im renting a small 75sqm flat for 700€ a month.

>>685671020
60K, same city, i feel like shit lol

>>685671199
also this is now a get thread

>>685671005
That's madoc not belleville

>>685671030
whats the cost of living, 1 bed flat(condo), food per month, how is commute?
What's the weather like throughout the year i.e. how cold does it get in winter?

>>685670721
11.25x40 = 450
450x4 = 1800
At that income your tax is around 20%
80% of 1800 is 1440

So around 2900 monthly with two people working full time

How can you not make this work?

>>685670721
>>685670721
Do you know how to math?

11.25 * 40 = 450
450 * 4 = 1800;
1800 * 0.8 (approx for tax) = 1440;
1450 * 2 = 2880.

OP is obviously a loser who can't manage money.

>>685671240
lol, well Id like a lot more. I am house broke most of the time. But whatever. Still got vidya games, tinder for girls and 4chan. I remain entertained for the most part. Currently eating fish, drinking coconut water after a few beers. I will have a few more tonight whilst I play a tales game.

>>685671397
26K a year is the absolute minimum imo. if you cant meet that, get a roomie or gf.

1 bed condo ranges from 900-1400. personally i have a 1 bed, 1100 month, utils included with my gf. live comfortably with food 100 a month, but im a cook so i might be more advanced at stretching out the budget there.

transit is ok, but youll want to keep your commute under 30 minutes. its mostly tolerable but it can be packed during rush hour.

weather varies wildly, b/c youre by water. it can be sunny and rainy within 5 minutes. expect humid summers of 20-35 degrees, and cold winters (cold for an outsider such as yourself. im used to it). it can get down to -20 easily.

>>685671937
what field are you in?

>>685670681
800 in utilities is way too much, m8, how is that possible?
Stop leaving your electronics lying around while connected to the outlet. Unplug.
Dress more, less heating.
Open windows wide once a day for a few minutes to get fresh air, then close to save energy.
Start buying stuff second hand.
Move to a cheaper appartment.

You're currently living above what you can afford, and it's hurting you.

There's no shame in downgrading.
Start minmaxing. Either buy the cheapest of something, or buy very high quality and maintain it if you care enough about it.

>>685670800
i live in a prime real estate area and have all my utilities included in my rent

>>685670681
800 in utilities? Holy fuck dude. 60 for internet. 200 TOPS to heat, water and electricity (which should be included Ontario makes it so fucking easy for you). Another 100 for two cell phones since I'm sure you don't get cheaper alternatives in Bellevegas.

How do you get to 800 dude?>>685670681

>>685671397
Not that guy. But a one bedroom condo by the lake will run you around $1200 -1600k (cda) a month.

TTC (public transit) is ok if you live near a majoy route. getting expensive. And this winter was super mild. But normally a day averages around -10 and -20 with a wind chill.

My insurance rates for cars and motorcycles is absurd, making a huge chunk of the money I earn go towards simply being able to drive - where if anything happens, they'll fuck me royally because what the fuck am I paying for anyways?

Housing? I'm hoping to buy in 2-3 years, but little shit boxes are going for like half a million if they're anywhere close to society.

Cell phones? Internet? TV? Good luck affording these too - because they're hugely inflated for fuck all service.

I don't get why the government is so happy to let us be bled out like this.

>>685671378
its like a 30 minute drive

>>685672227
professionally? I am in international trade/brokerage as a consultant sorta.

>>685669653
What kind of jobs do you 2 work?

>>685672406
>My insurance rates for cars and motorcycles is absurd, making a huge chunk of the money I earn go towards simply being able to drive - where if anything happens, they'll fuck me royally because what the fuck am I paying for anyways?
>owning a vehicle
>owning TWO vehicles
TOP
KEK

>>685672394
to add to this, yonge and egg/ yonge and bloor are a bit cheaper, but are located uptown.

>>685672425
No way I can afford to move all that way, I can't afford a car

>>685672122
transit is garbage plus the city is in a state of perpetual construction commuting anywhere via automotive vehicle will suck

>>685672251
words to live by

>>685672663
dude you can find ppl on kijij and i betr on fb a freecycle group would get you a free ride. it sound like your just looking for excuses

>>685672683
garbage is relative. ive been out to edmonton and its a complete shitshow in comparison

ttc really isnt that bad, other than prices and overcrowding.

What do you do in Bellville?

Learn a trade, join a union, you'll be making in the low 20's to start but depending on the trade(doesn't have to be a licensed trade) you'll be earning 30-37 an hour within a few years experience.

>>685672406
Lol do you think it gets better in the US? Insurance companies fuck you just as bad. Any money you think you'll save by paying less taxes goes right into medical insurance anyway. I've been poor in both places and I'd rather be poor in Ontario.

>>685673182
I work at no frills

>>685673182
Also i knew a view people from Bellville that used to commute to the gta for work, also in the trades

>>685673441
Do yourself a favor and get away as for as possible from retail.

>>685672122
Thanks buddy. I think I will be earning enough to live though that. I currently earn about 75k (in Canadian dollars) but I am thrifty and don't splash money - I cook myself I used to work as a chef few years ago. I would go with my gf so we both would be working. I was born in Poland but moved to UK to finish school here so the worst I experienced was -35C degrees. I will keep doing research and start looking for jobs next year as it seems at the living cost might a bit better than here.

>>685670262

I make 22 an hour 40 hours a week and I don't make 3k a month. Quit making shit up.

>>685673051
thats kinda my point all the major cities in canada have such massive populations that rely on public transit and the cities have failed incredibly at providing adequate service. meanwhile federal funding continues to pour into privatized public services and the cost of said services keeps rising. I literally saw and ad for the fair hike on bus passes that said "well its still cheaper than driving" in ottawa OC transpo drivers make upwards of 100k

>>685673734
Good luck friend :)
It can be hard to get to Canada on a work visa. In order to immigrate your employer has to prove there is no Canadian available who can do your job. It's pretty fucking stupid but you sound pretty qualified so maybe you can do it.

>>685671826

11.25 * 40 = 450 per WEEK
450 * 4 = 1800 per MONTH because there are roughly 4 weeks in a month

before taxes you Autistic fuck

>>685673881
How don't know? before taxes that 3500~ish

>>685673881
2 people you fucking jabroni. You're also in a higher tax bracket than they would be each individually making minimum wage.

>>685673881
are you retarted
22*40= 880
880*4 =3520
what is wrong with you people can no one on /b/ do basic math

>>685674287
are you fucking stupid?

you don't count money that isn't there you dumb fuck.

obviously, it needs to be after tax you fucking idiots.

>>685673245
That's a fair point.

>>685674158
I make 12 dollars an hour and my gf makes 11.50, we make 2500 a month together

cigarettes are 24$ a day and my beer drinking is 27.50$ a day and her weed costs her around 150$ a week

>>685674418
you still earn that much taxes are just deducted

>>685674018
Yeah I know it is a pain also I have to do IELTS exam even though I got PhD from British University. But hey I am so fed up with living in UK after so many years I can at least try to live somewhere else. Thanks for your insight.

>>685674582

I earn that much but i don't take home that much.

morons.

>>685674522
>being an alcoholic smoker and your gf is a stoner

there's where your money goes dumbass

christ well somethings gotta give op.

>>685674522
well theres you fucking problem right there if your op than your even more stupid than i thought. stop smoking stop drinking and maybe try and get your life together like wtf this is whats wrong with our generation have some fucking personal responsibility

>>685669083
You pick one of the most expensive cities to live in so its your fault

>>685674836
Belleville isnt expensive you dumb fuck, everything just costs too much anywhere in canada

>>685674726
exactly you still make that much you just dont receive it your the moron. you shuold chose your words more carefully especially if you dont really know what they mean

>>685674726
That's still your gross income.

>>685674806
Yeah I'm OP

>>685675057
thank you at least theres one other non retarted canadian here

>>685674522
So you smoke two packs (or like four viceroy) and drink a fucking 24 every day and your gf smokes a fuckton of weed SHIT MAYBE THATS WHY YOU LIVE LIKE SCUM

BECAUSE YOU ARE SCUM

>>685675063
stop fucking blaming society for your own personal short comings. take responsibility for your actions. frankly you dont even deserve to eat at a food shelter. people like you abuse the welfare system and increase the burden on tax paying citizens jesus fucking christ its people like you that make conservatives so anti welfare

>>685674726
You should take home around 2800 every month right? Assuming you're single? Less than two people making minimum because of tax brackets but not that far off.

And anyway I originally said LIKE 3k since I didn't feel like doing fucking math but holy shit I guess I was off by 200 dollars fucking kill me

>>685675027
>>685675057

You guys are both idiots. You can't spend money that isn't there.
You have to count the money after tax not gross.

fucking idiots still living with their parents. go out there and actually live on your own. dumb fucks.

>>685675469
I'm not on welfare and never have been, I don't get any government assistance and not smoking and drinking isn't an option

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>>685675063
people like you make me weep for a once great nation. maybe you should move to america i think you would fit right in there.
>pic related

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>>685674522
>27.50 a day

I eat 2 days with that, in switzerland

trade a few beers for some pasta and some chicken.

>>685675250
We each smoke a pack a day of John player standard cigs

>>685675706
I drink 12 tallboys a day, booze prices are outrageous here

>>685675578
i live on my own and make 31k a year and im 23 and work 24 hrs a week its called budgeting. and regardless of deductions you still earn that gross income thats what you make its very simple economics

>>685675549
>>685675549

You're off by 1k.

11.25 x 160 = 1800

quit making shit up

>>685675767
as a non smoker, how many smokes are in a pack? 8? 12? 20?

its so unbelievable to me how someone smokes a pack a day.

>>685675670
using food shelters is part of the welfare system your getting things for free provided by tax dollars that is government assistance and if you cant survive without alcohol and tobacco you should just kill yourself now and save our medical system the money seriously like you sound like a fucking child your so fucking pathetic man

>>685675008

Nvm I thought he said vancouver.

If you struggling then you must be over spending. I do fine living in Edmonton. I have enough disposable income to spend on my car and still save.

>>685675971
large pack have 25 small have 20 i think

>>685675922

you make it but you don't get that much money.

like i said. you don't count money that you don't get.
are you telling me that you actually budget your money using your gross income per month?

>>685675971
25 a pack

>Live in Quebec
>no gf/wife/whatever
>can't afford to get out of my dad's place because everywhere else is either way too expensive for my single income or the biggest shitholes where roaches can eat your diner
I pay to live at my dad's, but I'm so fucking sick of not being able to afford my own place. I'm kinda shit of having rural internet with a 100gb cap too, it's driving me fucking nuts.

>>685672406
Does it benefit Power Corporation? No? Then who cares?

>>685676508
I'm kinda sick*

>>685676389
yes you do that is what it says you earn when you sign an employment contract man you dont know what your talking about so just shut up seriously man stop trying. and no i dont budget my money based on gross i base in on net but regardless of that your gross income is what you make regardless of your deductions . thats what its called "gross income" it is the total amount of money you earn before deductions apply

>>685675965
TWO
FUCKING
PEOPLE

The guy I replied too said he made 22/hr

Nigger I live like 2 hours away I make 21/hr and work 8 days a month and own a nice house and just bought an ouya today, what the fuck are you doing wrong

>>685676217
Not drinking isn't an option and either is not smoking

>>685676395
fucking hell

>>685676773

I know it is the gross income you idiot

we are talking about the actual money that you get, money that goes into your bank account.

it is called your net income. damn.

>>685670068
No, Toronto is possibly the shittiest city on the planet. It's full of fuckbois and nu male hipster faggots, angry feminazis, and stuck-up clubwhores. There's nothing to fucking do here, housing costs are insane, the TTC is shit, driving is a nightmare, people are rude, uptight assholes, and we're not allowed to do anything fun.

I hate this fucking city. I legitimately hope it burns to the ground.

okay so the real question is:

what is a good city with affordable housing in Canada?

Vancouver?

>>685677001
Why?

Why do you deserve the world if aren't willing to make sacrifices?

>>685676341

25 and they have 20's is op is a smoker a carton of Canada goose 8 packs x 25 smokes is $24, pretty fuckin cheap for a shitty habit

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i always lived in major cities and middle class neighborhoods, and i always heard people from small towns talk about how terrible they are but i always thought it was exaggerations but man this thread really illuminates how sad some places still are.

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>>685669925

No it isn't you little bitch. Jesus

I have a 2 bedroom 2 floor with a nice patio out back, pay $890 a month + utils (which average out to $170 for hydro every 2 months and maybe.......$50 a month for water and gas)

I live in Hamilton, Ontario.

I make maybe $900 every 2 weeks and my partner makes just over minimum.

Learn 2 budget, faggot

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>>685677202

Call me a fuccboi to my face

>>685677202
this sounds like its not about Toronto anymore, but a problem with yourself...

>>685677225
lol no Vancouver is the most expensive in NA.

>>685677230
Too boring to not get drunk everyday and smoke cigarettes

>>685677202

why don't you just move to woodstock. Toyota plant is there. Magna in St. Thomas is hiring.

they're always hiring seasonal workers at 23 dollars an hour.

>>685677451

so? any suggestion THEN

>>685677169
"I make 22 an hour 40 hours a week and I don't make 3k a month" he earns which is his gross income stop using logical fallacies this is why i said chose your words carefully this will be the last time i reply to you because it appears this concept is just too far beyond your grasp but i wish you luck, im sure one day you'll graduate elementary school

>>685676257
Do you guys smells the smoke at all from the wild fires?

>>685677530

And there's where all your money go you pathetic faggot, enjoy your welfare meals while your buzzed, you're literally a pathetic loser and your right you should kill yourself soon

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>>685677338 Here again

Also, quit smoking like a chimney, and if you TRULY absolutely need to drink (total fag) buy maybe a twixxer every 2 weeks.

I'd say just switch to pot, it's cheaper in the long run and if you aren't a useless fucking stoner you can stretch that shit out real good and maybe 2 grams over 2 weeks?

Gods. I lived in poverty my whole life. Helps you figure out how NOT to be with money

>>685677610
> im sure one day you'll graduate elementary school

that's a good one. lol.

fucking idiot budgeting his money using gross income. get the fuck out of here you moron.

quit lying on the interwebs

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>>685677338 Once again

Can confirm that Toronto is total fucking balls. I go there to bang their women and go to their parties. I wouldn't dare live there (even if I worked there).

It's fun, but it's full of elitist twats

>>685677424
Fuccboi

>>685677451
No, it's Toronto. All the people in other parts of Canada who hate Toronto and people from Toronto are right to do so. This city is awful.

>>685677547
I have money, it's not a problem for me. I just hate living in this city. If you've never travelled and lived your whole life here, you probably don't realize how much it sucks, but lemme tell you, having been all over the world, Toronto is complete shit.

>>685669083
I live alone, in a 2-bedroom house in Calgary. I made enough working 7 months last year to take 5 months off in the winter. Went to the Cayman Islands, it was lovely.

I made less than 80k. And still had lots to vacation with. Try not living beyond your means.

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>>685677883
topkek

>>685677569
which person are you

>>685670588
nailed it

>>685678043

I don't live in Toronto. god i don't even like visiting that city.

expensive and too crowded.

>>685678043
if you have money and dislike Toronto, why havent you moved? dont give me some bullshit answer either. you have no obligation to stay in a city you dont like

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>>685678332
i thank you good sir

>>685677705
A pack a day isn't smoking like a chimney, I know people who smoke 75 cigarettes everyday and that is smoking like a chimney, a 25 pack a day is baby tier

>>685678043
Also, people dislike like Toronto as many Americans hate NYC. same reason

>>685678572
what is the average smokers smoke a day?

OP just give up and kill yourself your literally worthless, can you live stream it now please since your probably drunk and smoking and starving like a pro budgeter

>no gf
>few friends
>drink malt liquor
>smoke menthol
>tax evade
I just want to be a nigger tbh. Paying for things is stupid

>24 hours
> full-time
are you autistic?

>>685678427
Because it'd mean giving up a career that pays very well and gives me a very flexible schedule and tons of free time. Plus all my friends and family are here.

Thinking about doing it anyway, though. Might move to Europe somewhere. Always have a good time over there,

>>685678868

Like 20 one every hour and a few in the morning

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>>685678572

A pack a day (depending on brand) can run you well over $100 a bloody week

Accept you situation, slowly start to cut down and then eventually quit.

Noone truly needs to smoke.

And way not to respond to my comment about your boozery, bud

come to quebec, theres poutine, skidoos and 200k houses.

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So it seem this thread is aboot dead. I would like to give a special thanks to op for enlightening me on how truly shitty canada still is. if your still here op you should leave canada and never come back we would all really appreciate it

>>685678724
Because NYC is full of insufferable faggots who get offended by everything and think they're too good for everyone?

>>685678781
Does she knows she has giant milk duds nipples?

>>685679010
a career that pays well, in a city you hate? if a good career came from TO, then its at least not as bad as you think.

>>685678868
25-40 a day for the average adult smoker, if you smoke less than 25 a day you don't really smoke

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>>685669544

>poor

>>685678226

whatever i'll just use google

>>685679181

Fucking what did I just say, $24 no tax Canada goose smokes, they're not even harsh or anything

>>685679248
nice baseless generalization. with that mindset, its not even about nyc.

have fun going anywhere in the world if you think blanket statements like that apply to over 13 million NYC'ers

>>685669083
Love when fellow canadians cry bout being poor.

Got a roof over your head, good food n healthy?
You got more than alot of ppl, i myself have been missing the above so many times , maybe do without a cellphone and take the bus

Literally so many spoiled little runts who made it to adulthood here in canada

>>685679508
The city can still be shit even if I have a good career.

>>685679754
oh youre the expensive city guy. sorry

uhh check for something in the south US. IIRC Texas has houses for 140K that rival 1million here in Canada

>>685679829
I was implying that Toronto is, in fact, full of insufferable faggots. NYC is aight. Had some good times there.

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>>685679842

THIS

I grew up in the Canadian white equiv. of "poverty" and I still had it better than your average asshole in Africa

Y'all fuckdongles need to pull up your pantaloons and get on the Moose and just fucking deal with it

>>685679946
i wasnt arguing that a city is completely unflappable even if a good career comes from it.

what i was saying is that a great thing, like your career, from a city you hate, probably makes that city less sucky than you think.

>>685669925
you are restarted stop wasting all your money on drugs

>>685679842
At least it's hot in Africa. They don't live 6 months in the cold and freeze because they can't afford the electric bills

OP you are a fucking retarded nigger. Quit drinking and smoking and weed and maybe you'll be able to buy food. Get your priorities right you fucking autistic faggot

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>>685677338
I'm with this guy. I'm in Alberta and make just over min wage. I own a 2013 car, pay my mortgage, and eat Mr noodle. It's possible to live on basically nothing but you need discipline. Hell if my place had 2 incomes I'd live like a king. Pic related.

>>685673051
I actually think Ottawa has a really good public transit system. So does Montreal. TTC is garbage, but that's the Toronto's fault for not developing the subway lines early enough. Can't say anything about other cities though.

>>685679842
It's impossible to be homeless in canada unless you're mentally ill. They give anyone welfare here you dumb fuck and if you want more money just fake being mentally ill and get disability

>>685680222
I suppose. It's like fishing a quarter out of a giant pile of dog shit, then being like "hey, a quarter! I guess dog shit's not so bad after all!"

>>685669083
Dude.. I live in Montreal and me and my gf only make about $50 000 a year each and we are living VERY comfortably...

>>685680143

again, baseless generalization. toronto, nyc, or fucking anywhere, youll have that same mindset.

>>685680436
yes i hear good things about montreal.

>>685680481
it comes down to attitude. i love the city and what its provided me.

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come to Quebec bro we cool and no one is in trouble like that only homeless ppl are like litteraly homeless

>>685680498
50k a year is a fuck load of money, my gf and I make 32k combined, you're rich bud

>>685680552
It's true, though.

>>685680453
This

I know people who don't even work here in Ontario and they have money for food and partying everyday

>>685680498
ayyy Montreal /b/ro

>>685670681

OP is retarded. In London (fairly close to Belleville) for $1000 you can rent a 3 bedroom apt. on Platt's Lane (nice area right by Uni, all utils included. OP must be renting some swanky townhouse, and $800 for utils? WTF, how is that even possible?

>>685669083
I live in Canada. Saskatoon. I make $30 an hour and spend my money recklessly and it's all good.

>>685680831
hey, believe what you want then

>>685680407
>>685680169
>>685679842

The difference is if you don't work here you freeze and die. Our forefathers worked their bag off and we have ever since. No work=no heat. In Africa they've done dick all in the last hundred years if not thousands of years. They sit, fight, screw and take handouts from the white guy at red cross

>>685680498
>100k/year

Dude. If you only live "VERY comfortably" with that kind of money, you're an idiot.

From Peterborough, gf stays at home with 2 kids, work 45-50 hours a week at 14.25 in a kitchen. Have a decent car. Smoke appx. 17 cigs a day. Rent a house. Pay cable, gas, hydro, phone bills... money left over to pit away.

You're just a lowlife dude, buy groceries instead of liquor.

It's isolated from the rest of the world, but I recommend Thunder Bay, Ontario. About 100,000 people, gorgeous natural beauty, and a shit load of new hit girls every September when college and university start. Rent is reasonable, utilities are low.

Renting a little one bedroom, two floor apartment while working at Walmart and barely scraping by. Hopefully going to school next year so I can get out of this dead end job.

>>685681042
Right now sask has it going on. No privatisation of essential services and gov regulations for important shit. No asshole ultra capitalism

>>685681365
hit girls?

>>685669083
>ITT retards that live in Canada and don't know how to shop frugally, so that they can eat fully and healthy without having to pay out their ass for food.

>ITT retards that live in Canada and think things are expensive. Based on what you fucking dumb nigger the cost that it would be in USD?

>ITT retards that live in Canada and think working full time can't afford you a place and food and still save money.

tfw my brother is in his late 20's, lives downtown Toronto renting, and works full time and saves a ton of money every month, eats really well, and goes out frequently. Try not spending money on McDonalds and snacks you fucking retard, it's not hard to not be broke.

>>685681007
Maybe because we wash our clothes and actually turn the lights on..... hydro is almost 600 a month than you have water and heat which is 180 a month for water and mid winter it's 500 a month for heat

>>685681564
Whoops. HOT girls

>>685680749
This >>685680481

You're just a salty faggot, Toronto is great.

OP is clearly not mentioning credit card bills or something. Nobody is this stupid. Hydro in Ontario is crazy, yes, so just figure out what the peak hours are and don't leave your phone plugged in overnight and shit. Google how to make it less expensive.

>>685681727
haha hot girls are just about anywhere in Canada though.

>>685681855
thanks. its just you and i for pro TO in this thread. seriously.

>>685681886
Between my gf and I were 95k in debt and I'm 25 and she's 24

I make 2000$ take home month atm and I live in a 3 bedroom house with one roommate and I own a vehicle for 1400$/mo expenses. Thats just me. With two incomes you can't even afford to live?

I'm going to England (London) to become an engineer. All because i want to make big business connections and become a big shot.

Holy fuck am I going to miss you guys, Canada. England is a shithole compared to here...

>>685674522
Tfw I make 12$ in a day and manage just fine. You can only blame yourselves.

>>685681989
I'm not sure why I find so many people on 4chan that hate Toronto.
My guess is because they're all autists about it and can't look at the goods in things. Sure I could sit here and bitch all day about stupid shit in my city or my home, but end of the day I live there so why not put an optimistic attitude and outlook on it and try to enjoy it and come to like it.

>>685682123
This has nothing to do with where you live, you're just a fucking idiot.

>>685678868
>>685678572
>>685679089
>>685679181

CIGARETTE CONSUMPTION
 Daily smokers in Canada smoked an average of 13.9 cigarettes per day.

Source: http://tobaccoreport.ca/2015/TobaccoUseinCanada_2015.pdf

Conclusion: OP is full-time faggot.

>>685682388
Yeah it does because canada is expensive as fuck, you need to make at least 50k a month to live somewhat normal

>>685682388
maybe theyre small towners that take part in the baseless assumptions that Torontonians are mean and whatnot? i find a lot of that on all social media really, not just 4chan

anyways i think if these people actually came to TO, they would change their mind. were not really different from any other people in any other city

>>685682439
so maybe just a bit over half a large pack (25) a day?

>>685682439
>14 smokes a day

wtf why wouldn they even smoke if they aren't addicted? I smoke 2 packs a day which is 50 cigarettes and I'm not even a heavy smoker compared to my friends who smoke 70+ a day

>>685682788
I live in Toronto. People here really are that awful.