Is her channel getting taken down a step in the right direction, or did she have freedom of speech for her videos?
Youtube is a privately owned company. They have the right to restrict speech happening on their property.
Should they have that right? I say no. Too much of the modern public space is privately owned for us to allow that law to stay.
Maybe she violated the terms of service or something.also is this her? Was posted on b earlier
I'm sorry to have to stoop to memes, but:
All relevant forums for speech are privately owned. The definition of the public sphere must expand, or free speech will become meaningless.
That's a good point and something I had never considered before. Today the majority of information communicated between humans is through social media. It should not be legal for these social media owners to restrict free speech. They should have to follow the same rules as the government because right now they have as much power over expression.
No, but apparently you are if you think YouTube or Fb or twitter or any social media can't censor you if they wish. You know that thing that you clicked yes without reading when you signed up? It's all in there plus other shot you just blindly accept
People made the choice to use privately owned services to exchange messages. You want freedom of speech, call someone or send a damn letter. A private business reserve the right to shut down and message they don't want spread on their service. Even if the government created their own alternative social media platform, only a fucking idiot would use it.
Wasn't that his fucking point though? That most forums like YouTube or whatever own everything on them and can censor it, because the only way to access any of these arenas of speech is to accept their terms. The only place you can go nowadays and know you can't be censored is on platforms you have full and total ownership over.
And whats your point? You have freedom of speech in a public space. The problem is that all these fucking millenia twats can't communicate without using social media and they feel entitled to say whatever they want on it. There are limits to free speech. Go read a book anon
My point is that "public spaces" barely exist on the Internet, and public spaces IRL aren't exactly the optimal locations to get a point across. Take your political opinions and start sharing them in the middle of a public park or whatever. Your message isn't gonna go fucking anywhere.
The Internet is basically the only way for the common person to get an audience, and platforms like YouTube are about the only effective places to do do.
There's a need for a "public space" online.
You think the Internet is a public space? Hahaha hahaha hahaha what a fucking idiot. Let's take b for example, it's not a place where your can say whatever you want or post whatever you want. There are rules, no Cp etc etc. There is an assumption by uneducated low information voters that freedom of speech applies to evetything. It doesnt. Especially private companies.
No, that's stupid.
And I don't even know how you'd propose we change this.
By allowing the Feds to directly tell YouTube what they can or cannot do with regards to speech? Why? Because it's become some de facto public space? That's retarded. The distinction between public and private spaces isn't some arbitrary line.
LOL What if i told you you're a stupid homosexual with a small penis who needs to kill themselves.
Hey millenial faggots,learn about freedom of speech. YouTube is not congress
Whatever the case, Evalion will always have a home on /b/ as does everyone else. Youtube is normie /b/ and they will do whatever they want and there is nothing we can do about it except keep free speech alive on our own.
Evalion's blood will be the first to be split by this glorious new machine, and now you will be made witness to the demon video platform that will drag this world into the 21st century!
So popular social media sites should be forced to comply to the US government's limitations towards freedom of speech just because a lot of people use them? That's fucking stupid.
You wanna "get a message across"? Then start up your own site or blog. Just be careful not to become the next big social media site or else you've suddenly become the next public space.
You're also retarded if you think the only other platform is petitioning people at a park. Nevermind the fact that people have been efficiently spreading ideas throughout history. Write a journal or newsletter, publish a book, attend town hall meetings, organize rallies, etc.
tl;dr Leave the internet alone.
wow, you must be such an oldfag, I am so impressed wowowow. He called me a summerfag!! This is so insane!
>it's not even summer faggot learn your seasons
Together we can stop this tyranny
I Was just about to say that anon. Thanks. Pay for your own damn server and bandwidth and you can say almost anything you want and not worry about YouTube taking off "your" content. It's not yours it's theirs because you are using YouTube for free
4chan is not about being hip & cool go back to wherever you came from redditfag.
But dont talk too much about usenet here. We wouldnt want the millenials to figure it out.
Evalion has given the queen a cold ahhh cooooooo.
That's not what I'm saying either you total illiterate.
I'm saying that there is a NEED for a public space ON the Internet. Simple concept.
Yeah, people got ideas accross in history when posting an article in a journal or newspaper actually got fucking read, and populations were small enough for them to spread across a city in a few weeks.
This would be leaving the Internet alone, because it wouldn't be changing any currently existing websites. I didn't even want to change youtube. I'm Advocating for something different and you'd know that if you actually read my posts. Literally none of your critiques apply to what I'm proposing.
>4chan is not about being hip & cool
He's right you know. It's a shame that 4chan has become that place where edgy kids hang out. At this point 4chan itself has achieved meme status.
What you are asking for here is the right to force others to spread your message. You want to be allowed to piggyback on the popularity of more succesfull fora.
Thats not how free speech works.
Yeah, a forum you create yourself will probably not gather much attention. Should it?
I know its very sad i not only blame stupid ass Evalion herself but all those retarded top ten videos on youtube. we need to kick them out & do something about this.
>there is a need for public space on the internet.
Isn't that called the deep web? I think your confusion lies in the fact that social media is free, meaning you don't have to pay a monthly fee to use those services and you feel it's a "public space" it's not
So what? A forum hosted by the federal government? That's also stupid.
I don't want tax dollars going to server maintenance on a platform no one will use. And if anyone does use it, it'll be little more than a joke. Don't believe me? Look at the government's official petition site. You know how many retarded petitions get posted there?
And why are you proposing this? For some alternative? Alternative to what? Platforms that work and draw millions of international users daily? If our only options were limited and strict, I might agree with you, but good luck convincing literally anyone that there should be an alternative, let alone a problem to warrant such a thing.
While you're right in that it's about exposure in a sense, you're implying that posting anything on youtube is "piggybacking" off the success of a website whose entire purpose is to have people post bideos on it. Sorry, but youtube wouldn't have success st all WITHOUT people "piggybacking" off it.
Also the "should it" question at the end is pointless. Why even ask that? I personally have no message to share, but what message ever shared in history had an explicit need to be shared? Why post? Why share ideas? Seriously, what was the ooint of thst question?
That too those rules were broken by a lot of users who had big mouths.
Fucking leafy Jew kiss ass took one if the good youtubers down and really she didn't do anything wrong why us her a opinion so wrong but sjws get to ear rape us about trans gender equal rights and all that garbage but someone with a different opinion take it down fuck them Fuck YouTube
Its all about exposure.
Its not like youtube is the only way to post a video. Make your own webpage. No one will watch it, but no one is preventing you from trying to spread (legal) messages.
This means you have free speech. But you dont have the right to demand that others carry your message for you. If youtube (or others) dislike your message for any reason they are free to decline to spread it for you.
YouTube is as public as a Starbucks or a Walmart, and they also reserve the right to kick out individuals within certain limitations (limitations that have nothing to do with freedom of speech, mind you).
im just loling @ all the millennial faggots in here crying that they cant say whatever they want online right now. you think this is bad? wait till hillary clinton becomes president. you can kiss net neutrality goodbye. all the corporations that have been pushing to sensor the entire internet in america are the same corporations that own that shill of a puppet.
you same faggots that want shillary in office so bad are gonna be the same faggots bitching on facebook (because you wont have access to 4chan anymore) that she took your freedom away
you're assuming the world is full of balanced, intelligent people who appreciate facts and truth, who can handle free speech.
but it's not, it's full of mindless racists and beta cucks who are very impressionable. That's why Youtube censors whatever it wants, because its pushing its own agenda onto people.
i'd say that advocating the genocide of 6 million people is a good overstep of your freedom of speech. She can hold those views all she wants, but there is a reason why genocides are supposed to be remembered as horrible events and not celebrated.
>Inb4 too long didn't read.
Which is why I was advocating for a public space that isn't fucking youtube, christ.
It wouldn't be owned by a singke person either. Having everyone just make a webpage for their opinions means they can keep all their ideas in a vacuum, that that's just going to create a bunch of small personal echo chambers. To really be a good platform, it needs to be public and accept discourse
/b/ has a queen her name is boxxy you see & the only queen at that get this trash off of my 4chan you racist tubefgs go to pol politics do not belong on /b/.
>websites like Facebook and Youtube are where 90% of communication and free speech occurs
>this will only increase as time goes on and they become more integral to society
>these companies get complete control over what is shown on the website (despite the fact that their revenue and content is generated by users, just saying)
>these websites will therefore be able to shutdown almost all opposing speech on a topic that they disagree with
>Cucks are fine with this
And don't bring up law. Of course they are in their legal right to shut down content. We aren't arguing about the current laws. We are arguing about right and wrong.
Imagine any pro-Trump or pro-Bernie content being ripped off of Youtube. They could legally do that.
People don't understand the seriousness of this when one day we are going to spend most of our lives communicating on these websites more so than real life.
>muh 6 million
closer to 1 million fam
and every single camp inspected by the US has been ruled out as a death camp, only concentration camps. The Jews lied about everything ;_;
WATCH THIS VIDEO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOAr967WXxU
You should find out what net neutrality actually is before you use it sir.
>wtf does hilary getting elected have to do with anything? (btw fuck her and bernie we shouldn't need to have one person with that much power)
is voicing your opinion on an issue "acting entitled"? I'm not very "up to date" on all these interweb connotations mister.
I hoped they could be our allies, but instead they're set on turning the whole world into a mixed-racial servant race with the Jews as their overlords.
Because why wait for "prophecies" you don't believe in when you have the power to change the world through media, white guilt and implanting your own people into governments and institutions.
Exactly. She acts like she has blonde hair, blue eyes. Shes not on that aryan level. It's all just shit tier bait that people are falling into with her stupid ass "red pill" shit.
The government, or some 3rd party who didn't care for micromanaging what's said beyond "keep ot legal"
The person or persons or organization ect would have to be trustable with the responsibility of only censoring legitimately illigal shit. So, I honestly wouldn't know how to start it.
I don't see how it would be "redundant" though. Although yes, certainly expensive. Definitely an issue.