guys, is a girlfriend/wife worth the time and effort or is it

>>663708710
You might be filled with hormones and denying reality now, but if you tell any man above 40 who's hormones have started to wear off, that you want to live a wife free life, he will in his own way show you that he's rooting for you to go though with it despite what society or the women in your family tell you.

>>663708710

no and yes

>>663708710
Depends.
Do you value your time, effort, and money?
Personally, I've been in a relationship for two years now. I really like doing whatever I want, and when you're in a relationship you really do need to compromise.
Being in a relationship costs more money. Maybe beneficial on the splitting of rent.
For me, if I become single again, I'd probably prefer to stay single and occasionally fuck chubby chicks.

>>663708710
The best is to have a chick that doesn't want a relationship, but still don't care enough to fuck around. Also, she only fucks one dude at a time.

That way she won't bother you with her, no doubt, fucked up emotions, yet you get to bone the same chick many times. this is good because sex gets better when you're with the same person over time... until it gets stale, so you better get someone who is a bit fun in bed and not uptight.

>>663708710
I'm just starting this path.

I'm 32 EU, self-employed. Many fuck buddies, and at least 3 marriage worthy gfs in the last 8 years, who I dated for several months.

Decided to actively blow it all with last gf cause she was too limiting.

No regrets.

>>663708710
Who is this girl?

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>>663708710
Just wait a while until the Japanese and German engineers mass-produce robo-waifus.

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Somewhat relevant.

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>>663708710

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>>663710654
Kinda disagree with #3 there. Three of my female friends are pissed off at me because I'm too "emotionally cold" in their opinion, since I never tell them everything about me and it upsets them that I don't care about most other people. One even said that even if I weren't an "astronomically unfriendly asshole," I still wouldn't have any friends. Though I do have plenty of friends regardless.

Also somewhat disagree with #8. I'm a weeaboo because I always have been, and though I love Japan's entertainment/popular culture, I love their traditional as well as work culture also. But, I love Korean, Chinese, and other Asian cultures as well.

>>663708710
it's not either or you idiot. just find someone who is on the same page you're on and it'll work.

>>663708710

Depends on your lifestyle.

If you are the kind of person who gets a 9 to 5 job (sooner or later), has a steady circle of friends and has hobbies that he can act out where he lives, a wife is a good choice.

If you have an alternative lifestyle. If you're active, like to travel or try new things out seriously (I mean for example you like to go diving so you just decide to become a diving instructor for some time and then move on to other things). If you think you might change jobs a lot, live in different places or just right out travel a lot, maybe a wife is not necessary.

Imagine your life when you are 50. Do you still live in the same place you've been living 20 years before? Do you still have the same friends? Do all your friends have wifes? Children? If so it will be hard to hang out with them and it will also be hard for you to find new company. Having a family is what will keep you alive then.

Following >>663709653 advice, people in their 40s might have regrets, but they also don't know what their alternative lives would be.

tl;dr If you have lots of shit going on, constantly go to new places and make new friends. No wife. Otherwise you should strongly consider it.

>>663711205
Pt 6 was pretty profound

>>663708710
you want to find someone you can fight with, and still be friends with, because ultimately thats what it is. Gotta have someone who can put up with your shit, and someone whos shit you can deal with or itll be shitty for you both.

>>663710654
Good anon, wise words

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>>663711560
I'm not sure how to interpret it. When I was younger (younger than 21), I was very emotional about a lot of things, particularly got angry easily and argued with my parents...a lot. Well, around age 21.5, I started to take Buddhism and Buddhist practice much more seriously, particularly curbing negative emotions and learning mental discipline (being out of country for years during that time helped). These days, I can't even get upset about things that would otherwise upset most people, and I don't allow myself to feel sorrow for too long.

Pic not related.

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>>663710654
good post.

>>663708710

unless you are a socialist nigger you are going to need someone to take care of you one day. Inb4 I won't live that long.

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>>663712300
Stay healthy enough so you won't need anyone else.

>>663708710
SAUCE

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>>663712427
dats the plan.

>>663712427

Shit happens. No matter how healthy your lifestyle you can still get cancer. After your mom dies you really will not have anyone unless you have a wife.

>>663711202
she looks like she regrets that decision.

>>663713087

who's the younger chick

>>663713235
Being helpless isn't a life worth living anyways, probably just going to kill myself if that happens to be the case.

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>>663713235
Get cancer, get hemp oil and inject that shit. Mom dies? Yeah, it will be sad, but I'd mainly be upset because I couldn't/didn't prevent it. I'll eventually come around when I realize she's in a better place (be it some sky kingdom, a different life, or just the ground) and away from more suffering. As for myself, I need to build up my own foundation now so I won't need anyone else.

Plus, if my mom's killed by thugs, I've already decided to become a vigilante.

Marriedfag here. It's not worth it. Maybe a gf that you don't live with would be ok but that's it

>>663710400
Piper Perri

>>663708710
Had girlfriend and we fucked like pornstars. I was fooling around on her and fucked about 15 other girls. None fucked as good as she did so after about two years of fucking her and testing other waters I married her. I haven't had good sex in 5 years and have only had 1 blowjob and it wasn't from her. My advice, girlfriend yes wife no

>>663713638

> just going to kill myself

you say that now...

>>663708710
I've been in a relationship i hate for the last 3 years. It's not worth it. The only reason i'm still around is because we have a daughter. It might be worth it with the right person but i'd take space and random sex any day of the week.

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>>663708710
>ex gf broke up with me two years ago
>spent nearly every day of those two years wishing I had her back
>start talking a few months ago out of nowhere
>dating again
>moves in with me
>realize how fucking annoying and stupid she is
>yelling at me for wanting to have my friends over in my apartment that I pay for
>throws a fit because I go smoke pot with my best friend instead of watching a tv show with her
>starts throwing shit in my apartment
>tries to punch me in the face
>get her to calm down
>she packs all her shit and puts it in my car
>comes back inside after making last trip to her car
>she grabs me as tight as she can and starts sobbing saying how sorry she is
>we make up
>we fuck
>we get in the car afterwards to get food
>on the way home I stop at her moms house
>tell her to get out
>throw all her shit in the drive way
>shes fucking pissed
>drive away, block her number in my phone
>things have been good since.

My advice is stay single

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>>663713650

Kek. Fat DiCap loves your post.

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>>663714011
Who?

>>663713990
Hero

>>663711205
They want emotional theater IMO. Actually revealing your depression and frustration lowers you in their eyes. Passionate emotions are more acceptable. Emotional warmth and strong friendships are attractive--I'm no psychiatrist but I imagine it has something to do with displaying your status amongst other people. Strong, successful men can afford to be generous and gregarious.

OTOH, being sad to the point of crying, anxious, angry over petty bullshit, etc shows your weakness and lack of power over the people and situations in your life.

Surest way to get rid of a woman with no drama is to make yourself too vulnerable. I no longer share my inner life with women, outside of generalities that let them pretend I am not emotionally distant. It's a shame because I did once feel the intense need to let an intimate partner into my life, but I don't know if this will ever change. It feels lonesome at times, but it is not as bad as being abandoned for being emotionally needy.

>>663713990
kek that day you became a man, nice job anon.

>>663714733
In my days I have never seen a beta specimen developed alpha so quickly, beta uprisings must have more meanings than one.

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>>663714884
Interesting. I kinda figured what you said a while ago, which is part of why I don't show emotion around others in real life, except family members. I don't smile, I don't laugh, etc people think of me as being an arrogant cunt, but I'm just doing what I know to do best: be quiet unless spoken to, mind my business, and don't wear my emotions on my sleeve. I'm stoic, and apparently the women in question in my life hate that. I don't know what they really want. I've already lost one female friend because she says I was/am, "too emotionally distant."

get one

Whats the girls name?

>>663708710
Her name?

>>663714884
>>663715387
>>663713815
>>663715626
that's what the internet is for

>>663713780
when I was younger, used to read some books. One phrase marked me (don't remember the writer, it was portuguese):
Don't knowing how to end with love, church created marriage. (sem saber como acabar com o amor, a igreja inventou o casamento).

Maybe it's working.

>>663710511
Won't be hard for them to produce robo husbands either, to take out the garbage and repair cars etc, while the women pleasure themselves with a dildo.

>>663715387
>female
>friend
Not quite a contradiction in terms, but with rare exceptions I've found women cannot into the kind of friendships that make a man's life better. Usually when the friendship goes "deeper" than a mere acquaintance, they are looking for a platonic boyfriend, and they become draining.
>again, I am not total redpill mode on this topic, it's just my own experience.

I don't know you, but it's possible that what you see as stoicism and politeness comes off as apathy or passivity.

Men don't have many expectations more difficult than managing their emotional lives--while women have a blank check to cry, shout, go home from work if they're feeling down, etc, it seems like men always have to walk a tightrope between being "emotionally cold" or being a pussy/hothead.

>>663713379

sauce?

>>663716952
Once exowombs come along, there's nothing stopping two men or two women from conceiving a healthy child.

The future is gonna get weird.

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>>663716977
I've figured that, too. One of the female friends goes on and on about how she doesn't care about other people's emotions and sensitivities, yet she's upset at me because I pretty much don't either, but I'm not on FB constantly going on about how much I don't care, nor am I being edgy and controversial about certain topics (like saying I would suck Hitler's dick if he were alive today, like she has).

Perhaps my stoicism can be a bit apathetic and somewhat 'bland,' but I've learned that it's pretty much how you have to be in life so you're not taken advantage of. It's those people who get all emotional and rage at everything who are the most easily manipulated, and usually end up getting hurt in more ways than one. Women, from what I've seen, have the advantage in that regard, because no matter how many times they get hurt or whatever, they'll always have someone to pick them right back up and tell them, "everything will be okay."

>Siddhartha is calm
>Siddhartha is stoic and wise
>Siddhartha doesn't put up with petty bullshit and let it ruin his inner-peace
>Be like Siddhartha
Or whomever you prefer.

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>>663713087
Well, my dick needs the sauce, kind sir

>>663716952
But they'll never be able to acquire what they desire the most from men and that is simply, male attention.

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>>663708710
when is that slut going to get her asshole fucked?

>>663708710
as a man about to get his 3rd divorce:
don't get married. Get a live in girlfriend.

>>663713033
That vid is advertised all over pornhub. Just search a little faggot.

>>663708710
ALWAYS be alone. Women are soul sucking whores that will only fuck you over in the end.

>>663711205
You disagree with #3 but you sight your female 'friends' as the reason. Point #3 proven.

Have fun being a weeb.

>>663713908
Damn nigga I'm in the same boat. Was about to end Out then found Out She's pregnant.
Daughter will be 4 this year and I'm so fucking unhappy with life.
Not because of many child but because of her mother.

>>663717736
Also they have a short term memory of a goldfish when it comes to their own faults and shortcomings: blame it on everybody else, remind themselves how great they are, and move on.

>>663708710
Depends on two ppl
The grill in question
And you.

I like being in a long and steady relationship.
Kinda gives life a nice meaning waking up to a wife and kid.

Buuut, if you are some kind of wild party animal who just wanna get laid?
Stay singel.

About the grill part.
Don't settle for someone beneath you, but realize that noone outside of movies/books are 100% perfect.
They, just like you, will have bagage, personalitytraits, quirks etc that you might not like. The trick is to know how far below 100% perfect you are ready to go.
Im at about 90-95% depending on how fucked up my wifes work situation is.

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>>663719424
That's just 3 friends out of more than 300. How is it 'proven?'

>>663719657
That's why just let them have their little rants and move on; I don't argue when they call me names like, "stoic douchebag" and "astronomical asshole." They're pretty fucked up in their own regards, but I don't fire back with insults or name-calling. They just want to be praised, but I don't give them that praise.

>>663720499
They are FRIENDS, which implies you arent trying to fuck them. #3 is basically saying to be a man, women don't like that emotional shit, they got enough to deal with... even if they say otherwise.

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>>663720938
Well, they are like 6,000-8000 miles away, so...fucking them is pretty much out of the question. Their problem with me is that I apparently don't show enough/any emotion, so they rant at me for it.

>>663717246
uhm... my brain?

>>663712029
sauce plox

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>>663710654
>i'm atheist
>atheists are annoying
>don't tell others you're an atheist
... ok?

>>663708710
If you are unavailable, the women will take it as a challenge to crack you open.
If not, forget it.
Hookers are nice, but not always needed. Guess it is best to wait for one that you like, and date ones that you might like or want to try.
45 year old here. Married twice, prefere girlfriends. Currently single.

Question: If you have a crush, but there may be some indications that she does not have strong feelings for you, how far would you go in the effort of getting her to like you before you would simply give up and move on?

I get that this is a pretty hard question, but any replies will be taken in favour

>>663721203
A friendly advice, I find speaking to their own vanity is the best way to get them of your back. Tell them how that's just your personality and how we're all different(implying we're all special little snowflakes), do what you can to set it up so that if she counters it it'll be an admission that she is not unique. Don't be aggressive or threatening but stay on point, and make sure that she can't wiggle her way out by asserting that you want to solve what ever issues you have. Thus furthering the image of you coming from a well meaning place, again it's all about trapping her self image so she'll look like an asswhole if she attacks you.

>>663710654
ty oldfag, may we use your wisdom for the betterment of ourselves.

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>>663723529
Heh, I like this plan. There's one in particular I want to realize that SHE'S the one being an asshole by insulting me every time she decides to message me, not the other way around.

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Idk what you cunts are talking about, I just want someone to post the whole vid of the girl in OPs post.

>>663713033
Piper perri

>>663708710
>look Ma! No hands!

>>663723938
She'll never admit that bud her ego is to big like most females, but you can use that against her. The only scenario a female will apologise if she's subservient towards you, but that means you'll have to put up a front of charisma and being a man of principals and morals. But that kind of defeats the purpose of not wanting to humor her in the first place, and can be very tiring though there's a certain rejuvenation of energy feeling that you're in control. What working relationship would you prefer?

>>663725349
That's not the same girl you fuck!

>>663710288
pretty sure that doesnt exist that way only way it does exist is a chick fucking lots of dudes at the same time 2 or more

>>663711202
SAUCEE

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>>663726192
Just a friendship based on mutual trust and respect. I know it would be an uphill battle with her in particular, because she claims to be a 'sociopath.' She's not, demonstrated by the fact that she cares about being "brushed to the side" by me. The next time she messages, I'll be sure to mention how she's the only one insulting me, while I've shown her nothing but respect in all of our conversations.

>>663711202
>1452145804552.webm
nice one

It depends:

>If you find a girl who you can be like a best friend for the rest of your lives with roughly 0 problems, then yes

>Otherwise it's just your dick talking

>>663708710
In truth, only worth it if you want to have kids.

>>663726570
ikn

>>663727737
this

>>663722386
ughhh ur so annoying, stop saying ur an atheist

>>663714011
he deserves an oscar

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>>663728833
le dubs speak le truth

>>663727112
It could work, but then you have to become less apathetic in the workplace, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. She might very well be a sociopath, but that label is overblown and is not to be confused with a psychopath. Basically it means she has trust issues from childhood trauma, and is wrestling to regain that lost control through manipulation, but that's neither here nor there. Yeah stand up for yourself, she won't respect your sensitivity but she'll respekt your pride. Rooting for you anon.

>>663713529
The one on the right.

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>>663728549
wat?
>watisgreentext.jpg

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>>663729338
Oh, we don't work together; we're just friends on FB. I'm sure that significantly changes things, but yeah, we certainly don't work together.

>>663708710
depends on the girlfriend really.
A girlfriend with a job and a fleshlight for when she's not in the mood would probably be cheaper in the long run.

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>>663713990
I like you anon

>>663708710
Depends I guess? I love my wife. We've been together for 5 years. Meeting her got me to turn my life around. We were both students in college and at the time I couldn't afford it so I dropped out and got a job. I supported us while she went on to get her masters degree and now she is supporting me while I get my BA and eventually my masters. I love knowing that whatever trials and tribulations I will have in life I don't have to do it alone. We get along really well and I honestly can't remember the last time we had an argument. I can't imagine life without her really, and I think that some people get lucky and meet a terrific partner, and for other people they don't have as much luck.

I don't have any sage-like advice for you anon aside from find a few hobbies and go out of the home and do them. Worst case scenario you learn a new skill, best case you meet a partner for life.

>>663708710
is having a companion just sex to you?
if yes then being alone and fuckwhores is best for you
although i suppose if you haven't been in a relationship yet try it out and you'll learn something about yourself and others in general and things you learn are for the better

companion ship is just that, it offers a companion which, hopefully fills parts of your life with joy for the most part, sex is just one of the perks

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>>663729573
Thank god for that, all thought I must admit for a minute there I was feeling pretty psyched over armoring you up for battle.

>tfw way too fucked up in the head to have a relationship

I dated a girl for a year in highschool and after that I decided that I would never date again. It's been 4 1/2 years now and there has not been a single day I wish I was in a relationship again

>>663729569
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>The Pron Chan:

http://10ch.none.pl/

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>>663730904
It's all good. I'm pretty stoic to everyone else irl too, which is great considering the semester just started, and I so far haven't really connected with *anyone* in any of my classes, mostly because I don't bother talking to them. They probably feel the same way about me as she does, but I don't care: I'm only there to impress the professors.

>>663731608
What the fuck did you just fucking copypasta about me bitch?

>>663713379
>Being in a relationship costs more money. Maybe beneficial on the splitting of rent.

MOst of the GDP girls do... they're so hot but he just power fucks them and its not that sexy

>>663732181
>only there to impress the professors
You're a fag. Make friends with your classmates, you may find them useful later in life even if you are not close friends.

This is the distinction between the man who controls his emotions and presents himself to the world in the best way he can, and the reclusive neckbeard who claims he's "above all that".

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>>663732592
Screw the classmates. Besides, it's not like I have anything in common with any of them other than the fact that we share a class period. Also, I don't intend to live/work in this country after graduation (and not in their fields) so I don't need to deal with them. Even when I do/did try to befriend them, they usually just wound up not talking to me or even wanting me around after a short while for some reason (until it's around mid-terms and finals, and they need the help of the one guy making A's on all of the assignments).

It's their fault if they fail. I'm tired of trying to impress people who dislike me on principle.

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>>663732181
>>663733151
You're on the right path, and as far as close friends go don't worry. Many people settle when it comes to friends, but the closer you get to your goals, the more like minded the people you meet are gonna be.

In my 30's, I am in a relationship with a girl in her young 20's.
We sleep together a lot, but we don't ave a lot of sex.
I wrap my arms around her. Feeling her warmth is something I missed having in bed.
Not being alone is important to me. I am not an asocial fuck, and need companionship.
Used to be, when I heard a love song on the radio, I wanted to rip the cord out and trash the radio. Hate my ex still.
Far better to be in a relationship, and have that special kind of feeling when you kiss.

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>>663733800
And I do see that. The friends I do still have (that is, the ones who actually talk to me) seem to be characterized by my goal of living and working abroad. From what I've noticed, most others (particularly college students) don't really know what they want to do with their lives, and just live everyday drinking Starbuck's, going on social media, and complaining about things in life they can't control. I don't have time for that; I need to focus on my goals and devote myself wholly to them. As far as friends go, I just keep the ones I know won't get in my way.

name of girl on right

>>663731761
dont go there fuck

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>>663734365
Hope you can use my first advice then, otherwise this has just been an interesting conversation/thread. One of those rare instances that are to be had when b/ puts aside their self loathing for a second, cheers and godspeed.

>>663708710

"A girlfriend"? No. Not worth it just to have a girlfriend.

Meet somebody cool and find easy companionship? Fuck yeah dude. Definitely worth it.

Sex is just a facet of life, not the entire fucking thing. Don't be with someone just because they wet your dick sometimes. If that's all you ever look for, that's all you'll ever find.

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>>663735915
Thanks.

>>663708710
Ive tried both. Alone and fuck whores... easily.

>>663736638

>7.5 billion people on the planet
>every interaction will always be the same