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What does /b/ think of fifty shades of grey? Why is it degenerate?

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What does /b/ think of fifty shades of grey?

Why is it degenerate?

I'd prefer to hear arguments from people who have read it.
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Wow would've guessed /b/ had a stronger opinion on it, guess not.
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Secretary is better
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Does she go nude in the movie?
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>>598340343
Havent seen any screencaps on google yet
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>>598339368
>> people who have read it
There are no females on the internet, anon.
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>>598340651
The film will be objectively shit if you don't even get to see her beaver or ass.
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>>598339368
Unsure, never read the book or watched the movie. Although many women are flocking to cinemas everywhere to see it, I wonder if the hype is worth it.
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>>598339368
it's horribly written that's why it's degenerate. should never have been published in it's terrible form.
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>>598339368
Haven't read the books or seen the movie but I know what it's about, it's cool it's just a way of housewifes to fantasise about bdsm cause their husbands are lazy in the bedroom
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>>598339368
Shades of Gay
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>>598339368
I thought it was fucking terrible and the sequel was even worse.

An adults twilight.
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>>598339368

Just read a math book and learn awesome stuff instead.
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>>598343414
well yeah it started as twilight fan fiction so that makes sense
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>>598339368
I read reviews that it is pretty tame. And from the clips I've seen the lead actors are pathetically weak in their acting skills. He is no Richard Gere in American Gigolo. She comes off as a wet dish rag.
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>>598339368
dunno about the movie, but the book is literally (look it up) twilight fanfic with the names changed. it appeals to desperate housewives who have never had a good lay in their lives and have no idea what BDSM is. And the writing is shit. It's basic bitch porn, essentially.
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>>598339368
It's just sex scenes for the sake of sex scenes and all it does is encourages sexual abuse towards women.... i seriously cannot believe that this is what people are into these days.... really says good things about modern society
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>>598344321
Exactly, we should be making efforts to discourage this sort of thing, a disgrace. But is this really what most women want? If so, then they are mentally unstable.
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>>598339368

It's a piece of shitty fanfic with delusions of adequacy.
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>>598344321
The guy acts like a pussy. The only person he could actually rape is himself. Waste of film or if digital then 1s and 0s.
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>>598344816
i wouldnt say that. what women want in reality, and what they fantasize about arent always the same thing.
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>>598344909
Put it this way if you were a woman would you want to be treated that way?
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FIFTY SHADES OF GAY
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>>598344964
Indeed, almost everybody has sexual fantasies, although I couldn't be with somebody who has ones like that, could call me bland but it's too weird for me.
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Sex is WRONG !

Sex is IMMORAL !

Sex should be BANNED and made ILLEGAL !

We need to turn the world more into the book '1984' and create 'anti-sex leagues'.

Only reproduction through IVF.

Anything sexual at all must be punished with an execution on the spot.

Sex, Masturbation, Pleasure, Lust and anything related must be BANNED and made ILLEGAL.

* No sex, fun or pleasure for me, then no sex, fun or pleasure for anyone.
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I saw it last night. It was nothing special. She does get quite naked. No direct beav shots though.
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>>598339368
It started out as a Twilight fanfic and it really shows.
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>>598345241
I guess I just like them weird. Most of the girls i have dated have like raped play, and real BDSM. Though the book really gives a bad impression of what BDSM is.
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Femanon here, I read it and I think it's bullshit for three main reasons: it's written worst than any book on the earth (I can barely believe that a book so poorly written can be published), it started as a Twilight fanfic so it can't be better than that, and finally it stigmatize all the BDSM world, it shows bondage as a way of abuse and it legitimize abuse, making it romantic and exciting. But I would say that the main reason is that it's very badly written. Anyways, if it's what it takes to make grannys wet their panties it's fine. Sorry for the bad english.
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The title reminds me of the worst episode of Star Trek.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shades_of_Gray_%28Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation%29

Dr. Pulaski deserved a better sendoff.
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>>598345524
There are numerous aspects to BDSM, the movie seemed to leave the 'femdom' aspect out. Did you go for a certain type of girl or were they a mixed bunch of weirdos?
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>>598345795
I always thought Pulaski was more likeable than Crusher.
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>>598346020
Pulaski could have touched my Penaslki any fuckin' time
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>>598339368
Haven't read it or seen it, and I don't intend to. I never really had a justification for that but when I heard the book was originally a fanfic based off of Twilight I was dead-set on never seeing or reading it. Some excerpts I've seen are fucking stupid, and the synopsis shows me that the main character (the girl) is fucking insane and in a real situation she'd either have called the cops or be dead. I'm referencing of course the part where she's in a hardware store and Mr. Christian "I'm a gorillionaire but still twenty-something and I'm a self made man (a.k.a. my money came out of thin air)" Grey and he's buying the products a serial killer would buy and he tells her that he's basically stalking her.

Again, I didn't read the book so I don't know the subtle nuances to that insanity, and that's fine by me.
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>>598345806
Well, I'm not into femdom, myself. But to answer your question. I guess I've mostly dated goth/punk/rivethead type girls. Not usually ones you would consider normal, i guess.
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>>598339368
Mommy porn huehuehue
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>>598345631
>FEMONON HERE! HHEEEY EVERYONE FEMONON HEREEE!
Nobody cares about your gender. Now tits or gtfo.
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Feminists don't like it, says it supports abuse.
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>>598339368
I don't mean to sound like I'm a feminist or a prude, however:

The prose is atrocious, it's a pile of shit. It was originally a twilight fan fiction, BDSM is grossly misinterpreted, their relationship is nothing more than him manipulating and abusing a painfully average plain girl no man in his position would realistically lust for, but even fat land whales like the author need love too, although this has very, very little to do with love and more so the obese writer getting off on the thought of a man ripping a tampon out of her disgusting cunt and taking her then and there, sorry, I mean Ana's disgusting cunt, because it's not like she (the author) ever self inserted at one point. At multiple points in the book Ana is pressured into having violent sex with a sadist despite having an uncomfortable feeling which awkwardly enough she does not ever seem to overcome. In the end it's all explained that his excessively slapping her shit until she cried out through her swollen face was because he was abused as a kid or some shit and over time he's Mr. Vanilla Ice. There were many scenes omitted from the movie because the author is a retarded slut who wants to write about a man telling her what to wear, eat, when and where to have sex, while perpetuating the thought that has crossed dozens of cum dumpster's minds, that she can CHANGE him, but deep down past all of the discontent what disgusts me the most is you can see how much the author is being turned on by this charade.
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>>598346370
I was just replying to this
>> people who have read it
There are no females on the internet, anon.
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>>598346370
It's a different and probably more relevant point of view. Calm your greasy forehead.
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Seems to me that this movie and its draw for women just stands as proof positive that a bitch will let you demean and abuse and degrade her into a subhuman cumdumpster...

..if you're rich.

Nothing like glorification of golddigging, eh girls?
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>>598339368
It's literally a story that started off as Twilight fan-fiction. If I need to give any more evidence that we should all commit a mass book burning on this drivel, you guys really are faggots.
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>>598346841
White knight elsewhere.
>>598346370
Calm down, or give better input.
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>>598340343
>>598340651
Yes
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My buddy bought four tickets to see it for him, myself, and two other friends. He thinks it'll be hilarious but I'm seriously having my doubts.
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>>598347362
The book is almost always better than the movie, but that's not saying much. try reading this article

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/consent-isnt-enough-in-fifty-shades-of-grey/385267/
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>>598346268
>I'm a gorillionaire but still twenty-something and I'm a self made man (a.k.a. my money came out of thin air)

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>>598346341
Those types that you described to me carry too much emotional baggage, in my opinion. When I used to be in college, the girls like that kept to themselves and had multi-coloured hair, always spoke about their rubbish music and acted either flamboyant as fuck or near-totally reclusive. There was no intermediate.
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>>598339368
Absolute fucking garbage

they pussed out on fucking everything

of course it will be considered a "hit" because of all the idiotic people that went to see it, although in reality it was fucking terrible
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well from what i've heard it plays with the ultimate fantasys of women;
>a rich, white, athletic, rich, owner of a large company chases after main character
>after he burys her in luxury items they fuck. a lot. some overpowering followes and some more fucked up shit (also he's rich)
if you don't like it you're probably just out of the targetaudience (are you female? no?) so don't complain
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>>598346548
> Be a guy who's into BDSM but never read that shitty book
> Girls I've dated constantly describe me as being like that character
> "He was abused as a kid or some shit"
> Was harassed and bullied growing up
No, no that makes perfect sense actually.
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So, my girlfriend dragged me to see this movie with her. The previous showing must have ended about 30 minutes prior because the fuckin theater smelled like fish. Went to sit down and some of the seats were slightly damp.

Do women seriously get that turned on by this shit?
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>>598345524
>the book really gives a bad impression of what BDSM is.
This. All day long, this.

He totally ignores her use of the safeword and practically rapes her.

She thinks Christian doesn't like her because he doesn't take advantage of her while she's drunk.
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>>598346548
I like your post.
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>>598348717
I totally know that feel, bru
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>>598346268
I have to ask.

Considering that it's shown some women are incredibly attracted to serial killers, as well as those with sociopathic and psychotic tendencies (especially considering a great many CEO's are diagnosed as such), along with all this BDSM and rape-play shit.

Just what the fuck is wrong with all these housewives reading this shit that want a hard fucking from American Psycho?
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>>598339368
I kind of like what it did,
it showed how truly two faced feminists are,
every randy cunt read the book,
but when the movie comes around suddenly "bondage is wrong and misogynistic",
it's fucking pathetic
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>>598348717
Sure, if what happened in that train-wreck of smut was BDSM. If you read the book and knew how poorly Mr. Grey was written you would feel insulted. When he was four years old his drug addicted prostitute mother killed herself and he was next to her corpse for four days which is a little worse than being bullied in grade school, give or take. Also the original actor for Christian Grey left due to "poor script and creative differences with the team".
>>598349235
Yeah.
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>>598346548
The fact that this is literally a 'grown up' twilight fanfic - a book fucking adored by young girls and even some older women greatly.

Deeply.

Profoundly concerns me and my understanding of the female gender.
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>>598349852
It's called escapism.
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>>598350302
That's only 45 shades of grey.
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>>598349852
>Just what the fuck is wrong with all these housewives reading this shit that want a hard fucking from American Psycho?
prehistoric human insincts; a chick wants the strongest most agressive male for best chances to survive
some humans share more with prehistoric humans, some share less, but we can't deny it's somewhere within us
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>>598349852
Well it's a fact that the highest concentrations of psychopaths can be found as heads of companies or in political positions of power, my issue is that Grey basically poofed into his position when realistically the only way you're going to become a C.E.O. of a Fortune 500 company is if you bust your ass non-stop for 20-30 years. Also, most housewives are controllers of the household a.k.a. they control the cooking, cleaning, child-rearing, and for the most part must coax sex out of thier husbands. They want to let someone else take the reins, and who better then a confident, successful controlling sadist?
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>>598345357
I really don't get the joke. It's not that you didn't try, it's just not funny.
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>>598350492
It's the better version too.
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>>598350554
He just thinks people are complaining because they think sex is immoral, you're better off ignoring him.
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>>598339368
SUCKS
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i thought bill cosby could have been played by an african american. imma a little upset they cast a white guy for his part
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>>598339368
I downloaded the pdf to get an informed opinion. I still can't pass from page 5. It's THAT horribly written.
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I read it. I'm an actual sub and when I found out there had been a novel about the BDSM lifestyle, I was thrilled and thought I'd really like it. Since I'm poor, I took it out of the library (and there were mysterious stains on it already... gross, housewife jizz.)

Anyway, I was excited when I first started reading it, thinking "Oh yeah, this is the way I want to see a Dom..." But then I started getting really weird vibes about it, and realized that it was fucking terrible. Here's my reasons why:

He is obsessed with her eating habits. Honestly that's weird but she's just as bad. She'll say she's starving and that food looks delicious, but then two minutes later suddenly she doesn't want to eat anything and he's breathing down her neck to eat what's on her plate. Even weirder, she takes tea in the following way:

"I pop the teabag into the teapot and almost immediately fish it out again with my teaspoon. As I place the used teabag back on the side plate, he cocks his head gazing quizzically at me.
“I like my tea black and weak,” I mutter as an explanation. "

Black and weak? That's just water with a tiny bit of tea stain in it. How the fuck do you even drink that?
cont
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>>598339368
The movie is not that bad if you have never read the book
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>>598351119

Moving on to number two. She's so frigging "innocent" it's annoying. I quote, "Christian Grey is holding my hand. No one has ever held my hand." I'm sorry, but she hasn't even had her HAND HELD and this is a book about BDSM???
She constantly talks about how giddy like a schoolgirl she feels, says she feels like a child, compares herself to a child, even says the following line:
"I feel like a two-year old, if I close my eyes then I’m not really here."
This is annoying. Who the hell would want to fuck a chick like this?

And the amount of unrealistic bullshit in this is staggering. Not just with how rich and hot Christian Grey is, but with how stupid and out-of-touch with the present Ana is. She doesn't own a computer until Christian Grey gives her the newest Macbook, which hasn't even been released (according to the man delivering said Macbook, who laments that she's getting an expensive gift and wishes he had one, why should I care?). That's fine, perhaps she can't afford her own computer. THEN she says she's NEVER HAD AN EMAIL ADDRESS. This is a woman graduating from college. Every college I've been to, everything I do requires a fucking email address. I had an email address when I was TEN. HOW THE FUCK DOES SHE NOT HAVE AN EMAIL ADDRESS HALF OF YOUR CLASSES REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE AN EMAIL SO YOUR TEACHER CAN SEND STUFF AND GOD FUCKING DAMMIT

Should I go on? Because I have a lot to say.
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>>598350210
> Family members constantly tell you "I hate you, I hope you die", "You'll never go anywhere in life you piece of shit" get beaten up by family members on a regular basis. The worst was a hammer to the head which I apparently blocked out
> Parents constantly make fun of me behind my back and were too cheap to get thicker drywall so I heard everything.
> Parents never took me to the doctors' despite needing medical attention
> am a research scientist now and refuse to speak to them

I didn't have it as bad as Mr. Grey, but it certainly wasn't a walk in the fun either.
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>>598351226
>Mean words
Okay man I'm not disputing it.
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>>598350507
I wish i were a driven/damaged psychopath/sadist.

I'm just relaxed and go with the flow; not much bothers me and i rarely go out of my way to 'take' shit i want.
I had a wonderful childhood that was fun, my parents love me and my brother, and i get along with both of them greatly.

I am the shining antithesis of every woman's wet dream and fantasy.
I am as dangerous and sexy as a jacket potato.
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>>598339368
It's a shit-tier story that isn't believable at all and was written by someone with a 4th grade reading level. The sex stuff isn't even that racy. It just seems that way to ugly middle aged women whose husbands won't fuck them anymore
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>>598351543
> Hammer to the head
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>>598339368

>uses cable ties
>not hemp rope
>we are supposed to believe he knows what he's doing
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>>598351224
keep going, but get into the meat of it. this all seems pretty nitpicky so far.
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>>598345074
all the women reading it and paying to see it seem to think so, maybe you should let them think for themselves dumb faggot

not defending the shitty movie but stop treating grown ass women like children who you have to baby and worry about what message is being sent in an adult movie.
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>>598351696
Alright man, a hammer and mean words. You had it rough.
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>>598339368
The movie is nothing like the BDSM lifestyle and the relationship is wrong in so many ways. The sex and kinky scenes in the movie are hot and yes, you do get to see plenty of skin, ass, tits, everything except her slit and his cock. It is not worth anyone's money.

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>>598339368
I'm gonna take my wife to see it, then probably bone her afterwards. So I like the movie
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>>598351936
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>>598351965
Single guy detected
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>>598339368
this bitch at work won't shut the fuck up bout them leaving parts of the book
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>>598352249
don't look at her while watching the movie
you might find an expression you don't even know
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>>598351568
Not all psychopaths have ambition. Some just use thier manipulation skills to chill and do what they want. Being a psychopath or a sociopath is not a good thing, and frankly I'd prefer it if I didn't have traits that seem psychopathic in origin. That being said I'm a lazy fuck but I'm a people person and I can work someone over to get what I want. Except what I want is to sit in my chair and do fuck-all for most of the day. I'm a disgrace to all successful psychos.
>Inb4 look at this edgy 13 year old who thinks he's a sexy psycho like Patrick Bateman or Christian Grey, lol what a fag!
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>>598352372
I mean if you're rustled maybe your parents wouldn't have beat you with a hammer if you complained a little less. Just saiyan
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>>598352506
Virgin alert!
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"I'm Fifty shades of fucked up"

Shit movie.
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>>598352718
can't even deny it
/calling it a night
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>>598352545
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>>598352966
that photoshopped tattoo gets me very time
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>>598352966
Well meme'd, you sure showed me even though i already preemptively predicted your post! :^)
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>>598352545
sociopaths are not going to be swooning when confronted with pussy. that sets them apart for women from 90% of the shitty beta males out there.

there is no difference between sociopath and psychopath by the way.
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>>598351224
Please keep going. I can feel your rage.
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>>598352545
have you ever wondered that, when you manipulate people into doing shit - they were actually going to do it anyway, and you just credit yourself with being a master manipulator because you inherently don't have the capacity to fully recognize and empathise with human emotion?

Like how a sufficiently crazy person could sit there all day and claim they and they alone are the cause for the earth spinning and the sun burning.
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>>598341024
kekd
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>>598351909
Fine. Anyway, here's what it comes down to. Ana's a whiny cunt and I wish Christian would beat her harder.

The sad thing is, when he does, he ignores her safe words (which are outlined in a FUCKING LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACT I'M NOT KIDDING HE HAD HIS LAWYER WRITE HIM A BONDAGE CONTRACT), and then gets extremely angry with her when she's upset after a scene. He doesn't give her aftercare, pretty much leaves her there to cry saying that she knew what she was getting into and she'd better deal with it. And worse, she thinks it's her fault because she can't handle it.

And here's the kicker. In the second book, we find out WHY Christian loves beating up stupid, plain brunettes. He has mommy issues.

He says he likes to beat up these brunettes "because you all remind me of my mother, the crack whore."

And guess what? ANA DOESN'T THINK THAT'S WEIRD. I swear to you if I heard my Dom had mommy issues I'd be running for the hills, not letting crazy stick its dick in me. FUCK that
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>>598353374
>have you ever wondered that, when you manipulate people into doing shit - they were actually going to do it anyway
DING DING DING.
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>>598342920
>it's

You're not filling me with confidence.
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>>598352966
aw fuck, he's got a barbecue lighter.

You know this shit's for real.
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>>598353374
that's very possible with these deranged pretenders. i don't think manipulating people should be the sole definition of a sociopath though. some people want to be one and they convince themselves they are.

not the same guy btw
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>>598351860
Cable ties can be useful and effective just as long as you don't use them to support a large amount of body weight. Otherwise, they can cut through skin like butter. They're also often used by the more hardcore bdsm crowd. Pic very related.
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Literally open any page of that book and read a random sentence and it will be funny

I flipped to a random page and read |was it hot chocolate sex we were having?"

jokebook/10
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>>598353725
Yeah, cable ties are good for restraining, not supporting.
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>>598353881
He's not wrong.
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>>598353557
i don't think he was writing a book do you? you dumb shit. that's why we have editors. jesus fuck your a moron

i did it intentionally you fuck, i know you're giddy with the excitement of correcting someone on an anonymous board.
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>>598353374
>Drop pencil
>Some guy picks it up
>I'm a mastur manipulatur!
If you mean something akin to the simplification above, then yes, and I don't really identify every little positive thing that happens to me as part of my master plan, but I have convinced people to do things that they normally wouldn't do. And I never called myself a psycho or a anything like that. Here's the definition if you needed a fresher: Psychopathy (/saɪˈkɒpəθi/; also known as – though sometimes distinguished from – sociopathy /ˈsoʊsiəˌpæθi/) is traditionally defined as a personality disorder characterized by enduring antisocial behavior, diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behavior.
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>>598354050
>your
Did you do that intentionally as well?
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>>598352795
Underrated fucking post!
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