>>598339368 I read reviews that it is pretty tame. And from the clips I've seen the lead actors are pathetically weak in their acting skills. He is no Richard Gere in American Gigolo. She comes off as a wet dish rag.
>>598339368 dunno about the movie, but the book is literally (look it up) twilight fanfic with the names changed. it appeals to desperate housewives who have never had a good lay in their lives and have no idea what BDSM is. And the writing is shit. It's basic bitch porn, essentially.
>>598339368 It's just sex scenes for the sake of sex scenes and all it does is encourages sexual abuse towards women.... i seriously cannot believe that this is what people are into these days.... really says good things about modern society
Femanon here, I read it and I think it's bullshit for three main reasons: it's written worst than any book on the earth (I can barely believe that a book so poorly written can be published), it started as a Twilight fanfic so it can't be better than that, and finally it stigmatize all the BDSM world, it shows bondage as a way of abuse and it legitimize abuse, making it romantic and exciting. But I would say that the main reason is that it's very badly written. Anyways, if it's what it takes to make grannys wet their panties it's fine. Sorry for the bad english.
>>598339368 Haven't read it or seen it, and I don't intend to. I never really had a justification for that but when I heard the book was originally a fanfic based off of Twilight I was dead-set on never seeing or reading it. Some excerpts I've seen are fucking stupid, and the synopsis shows me that the main character (the girl) is fucking insane and in a real situation she'd either have called the cops or be dead. I'm referencing of course the part where she's in a hardware store and Mr. Christian "I'm a gorillionaire but still twenty-something and I'm a self made man (a.k.a. my money came out of thin air)" Grey and he's buying the products a serial killer would buy and he tells her that he's basically stalking her.
Again, I didn't read the book so I don't know the subtle nuances to that insanity, and that's fine by me.
>>598339368 I don't mean to sound like I'm a feminist or a prude, however:
The prose is atrocious, it's a pile of shit. It was originally a twilight fan fiction, BDSM is grossly misinterpreted, their relationship is nothing more than him manipulating and abusing a painfully average plain girl no man in his position would realistically lust for, but even fat land whales like the author need love too, although this has very, very little to do with love and more so the obese writer getting off on the thought of a man ripping a tampon out of her disgusting cunt and taking her then and there, sorry, I mean Ana's disgusting cunt, because it's not like she (the author) ever self inserted at one point. At multiple points in the book Ana is pressured into having violent sex with a sadist despite having an uncomfortable feeling which awkwardly enough she does not ever seem to overcome. In the end it's all explained that his excessively slapping her shit until she cried out through her swollen face was because he was abused as a kid or some shit and over time he's Mr. Vanilla Ice. There were many scenes omitted from the movie because the author is a retarded slut who wants to write about a man telling her what to wear, eat, when and where to have sex, while perpetuating the thought that has crossed dozens of cum dumpster's minds, that she can CHANGE him, but deep down past all of the discontent what disgusts me the most is you can see how much the author is being turned on by this charade.
>>598339368 It's literally a story that started off as Twilight fan-fiction. If I need to give any more evidence that we should all commit a mass book burning on this drivel, you guys really are faggots.
>>598346268 >I'm a gorillionaire but still twenty-something and I'm a self made man (a.k.a. my money came out of thin air)
>>598346341 Those types that you described to me carry too much emotional baggage, in my opinion. When I used to be in college, the girls like that kept to themselves and had multi-coloured hair, always spoke about their rubbish music and acted either flamboyant as fuck or near-totally reclusive. There was no intermediate.
well from what i've heard it plays with the ultimate fantasys of women; >a rich, white, athletic, rich, owner of a large company chases after main character >after he burys her in luxury items they fuck. a lot. some overpowering followes and some more fucked up shit (also he's rich) if you don't like it you're probably just out of the targetaudience (are you female? no?) so don't complain
>>598346548 > Be a guy who's into BDSM but never read that shitty book > Girls I've dated constantly describe me as being like that character > "He was abused as a kid or some shit" > Was harassed and bullied growing up No, no that makes perfect sense actually.
So, my girlfriend dragged me to see this movie with her. The previous showing must have ended about 30 minutes prior because the fuckin theater smelled like fish. Went to sit down and some of the seats were slightly damp.
Do women seriously get that turned on by this shit?
Considering that it's shown some women are incredibly attracted to serial killers, as well as those with sociopathic and psychotic tendencies (especially considering a great many CEO's are diagnosed as such), along with all this BDSM and rape-play shit.
Just what the fuck is wrong with all these housewives reading this shit that want a hard fucking from American Psycho?
>>598339368 I kind of like what it did, it showed how truly two faced feminists are, every randy cunt read the book, but when the movie comes around suddenly "bondage is wrong and misogynistic", it's fucking pathetic
>>598348717 Sure, if what happened in that train-wreck of smut was BDSM. If you read the book and knew how poorly Mr. Grey was written you would feel insulted. When he was four years old his drug addicted prostitute mother killed herself and he was next to her corpse for four days which is a little worse than being bullied in grade school, give or take. Also the original actor for Christian Grey left due to "poor script and creative differences with the team". >>598349235 Yeah.
>>598349852 >Just what the fuck is wrong with all these housewives reading this shit that want a hard fucking from American Psycho? prehistoric human insincts; a chick wants the strongest most agressive male for best chances to survive some humans share more with prehistoric humans, some share less, but we can't deny it's somewhere within us
>>598349852 Well it's a fact that the highest concentrations of psychopaths can be found as heads of companies or in political positions of power, my issue is that Grey basically poofed into his position when realistically the only way you're going to become a C.E.O. of a Fortune 500 company is if you bust your ass non-stop for 20-30 years. Also, most housewives are controllers of the household a.k.a. they control the cooking, cleaning, child-rearing, and for the most part must coax sex out of thier husbands. They want to let someone else take the reins, and who better then a confident, successful controlling sadist?
I read it. I'm an actual sub and when I found out there had been a novel about the BDSM lifestyle, I was thrilled and thought I'd really like it. Since I'm poor, I took it out of the library (and there were mysterious stains on it already... gross, housewife jizz.)
Anyway, I was excited when I first started reading it, thinking "Oh yeah, this is the way I want to see a Dom..." But then I started getting really weird vibes about it, and realized that it was fucking terrible. Here's my reasons why:
He is obsessed with her eating habits. Honestly that's weird but she's just as bad. She'll say she's starving and that food looks delicious, but then two minutes later suddenly she doesn't want to eat anything and he's breathing down her neck to eat what's on her plate. Even weirder, she takes tea in the following way:
"I pop the teabag into the teapot and almost immediately fish it out again with my teaspoon. As I place the used teabag back on the side plate, he cocks his head gazing quizzically at me. “I like my tea black and weak,” I mutter as an explanation. "
Black and weak? That's just water with a tiny bit of tea stain in it. How the fuck do you even drink that? cont
Moving on to number two. She's so frigging "innocent" it's annoying. I quote, "Christian Grey is holding my hand. No one has ever held my hand." I'm sorry, but she hasn't even had her HAND HELD and this is a book about BDSM??? She constantly talks about how giddy like a schoolgirl she feels, says she feels like a child, compares herself to a child, even says the following line: "I feel like a two-year old, if I close my eyes then I’m not really here." This is annoying. Who the hell would want to fuck a chick like this?
And the amount of unrealistic bullshit in this is staggering. Not just with how rich and hot Christian Grey is, but with how stupid and out-of-touch with the present Ana is. She doesn't own a computer until Christian Grey gives her the newest Macbook, which hasn't even been released (according to the man delivering said Macbook, who laments that she's getting an expensive gift and wishes he had one, why should I care?). That's fine, perhaps she can't afford her own computer. THEN she says she's NEVER HAD AN EMAIL ADDRESS. This is a woman graduating from college. Every college I've been to, everything I do requires a fucking email address. I had an email address when I was TEN. HOW THE FUCK DOES SHE NOT HAVE AN EMAIL ADDRESS HALF OF YOUR CLASSES REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE AN EMAIL SO YOUR TEACHER CAN SEND STUFF AND GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
>>598350210 > Family members constantly tell you "I hate you, I hope you die", "You'll never go anywhere in life you piece of shit" get beaten up by family members on a regular basis. The worst was a hammer to the head which I apparently blocked out > Parents constantly make fun of me behind my back and were too cheap to get thicker drywall so I heard everything. > Parents never took me to the doctors' despite needing medical attention > am a research scientist now and refuse to speak to them
I didn't have it as bad as Mr. Grey, but it certainly wasn't a walk in the fun either.
>>598350507 I wish i were a driven/damaged psychopath/sadist.
I'm just relaxed and go with the flow; not much bothers me and i rarely go out of my way to 'take' shit i want. I had a wonderful childhood that was fun, my parents love me and my brother, and i get along with both of them greatly.
I am the shining antithesis of every woman's wet dream and fantasy. I am as dangerous and sexy as a jacket potato.
>>598339368 It's a shit-tier story that isn't believable at all and was written by someone with a 4th grade reading level. The sex stuff isn't even that racy. It just seems that way to ugly middle aged women whose husbands won't fuck them anymore
>>598339368 The movie is nothing like the BDSM lifestyle and the relationship is wrong in so many ways. The sex and kinky scenes in the movie are hot and yes, you do get to see plenty of skin, ass, tits, everything except her slit and his cock. It is not worth anyone's money.
>>598351568 Not all psychopaths have ambition. Some just use thier manipulation skills to chill and do what they want. Being a psychopath or a sociopath is not a good thing, and frankly I'd prefer it if I didn't have traits that seem psychopathic in origin. That being said I'm a lazy fuck but I'm a people person and I can work someone over to get what I want. Except what I want is to sit in my chair and do fuck-all for most of the day. I'm a disgrace to all successful psychos. >Inb4 look at this edgy 13 year old who thinks he's a sexy psycho like Patrick Bateman or Christian Grey, lol what a fag!
>>598352545 have you ever wondered that, when you manipulate people into doing shit - they were actually going to do it anyway, and you just credit yourself with being a master manipulator because you inherently don't have the capacity to fully recognize and empathise with human emotion?
Like how a sufficiently crazy person could sit there all day and claim they and they alone are the cause for the earth spinning and the sun burning.
>>598351909 Fine. Anyway, here's what it comes down to. Ana's a whiny cunt and I wish Christian would beat her harder.
The sad thing is, when he does, he ignores her safe words (which are outlined in a FUCKING LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACT I'M NOT KIDDING HE HAD HIS LAWYER WRITE HIM A BONDAGE CONTRACT), and then gets extremely angry with her when she's upset after a scene. He doesn't give her aftercare, pretty much leaves her there to cry saying that she knew what she was getting into and she'd better deal with it. And worse, she thinks it's her fault because she can't handle it.
And here's the kicker. In the second book, we find out WHY Christian loves beating up stupid, plain brunettes. He has mommy issues.
He says he likes to beat up these brunettes "because you all remind me of my mother, the crack whore."
And guess what? ANA DOESN'T THINK THAT'S WEIRD. I swear to you if I heard my Dom had mommy issues I'd be running for the hills, not letting crazy stick its dick in me. FUCK that
>>598353374 that's very possible with these deranged pretenders. i don't think manipulating people should be the sole definition of a sociopath though. some people want to be one and they convince themselves they are.
>>598351860 Cable ties can be useful and effective just as long as you don't use them to support a large amount of body weight. Otherwise, they can cut through skin like butter. They're also often used by the more hardcore bdsm crowd. Pic very related.
>>598353374 >Drop pencil >Some guy picks it up >I'm a mastur manipulatur! If you mean something akin to the simplification above, then yes, and I don't really identify every little positive thing that happens to me as part of my master plan, but I have convinced people to do things that they normally wouldn't do. And I never called myself a psycho or a anything like that. Here's the definition if you needed a fresher: Psychopathy (/saɪˈkɒpəθi/; also known as – though sometimes distinguished from – sociopathy /ˈsoʊsiəˌpæθi/) is traditionally defined as a personality disorder characterized by enduring antisocial behavior, diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behavior.
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