Put bluntly, he was upset about immigration (more specifically how bad it will get in the future) so he targeted a parliament building and young recruits of the most popular liberal political party in Norway. (correct me if wrong, just the bullet points I gathered) I guess that's the only way to go about it? I don't know, there's practically nothing one man can do so I suppose he's a full-on nutcase.
>>586221264 Killing 10s of unrelated innocent kids with promising future because of a feebly constructed hatred towards immigrants, I dont see how anyone other than a psychopath could see that as "heroic" in the slightest sense of the word. The guys a freak, and many lives paid for his mental disorder.
>>586233755 How ironic it is that both of us drew such different conclusions from WW2. You've learned that an overpowering nationalism is dangerous, we learned that lack of a solidified nationalism is suicidal. If you're supporting further immigration of muslim scum into Europe, you're committing a economic suicide even withou taking the ignorance and dangers of radical islamism into account. Good luck trying to reason with them in the upcoming years, I suspect your environment is going to become very hot very soon.
>>586234370 לך תזדיין, יא בן שרמוטה אנאלית שמוצצת לערבים ג'ינג'ים.
Seriously faggot, if you think zionist jews support european islamization rather than fighting it, since it goes against every single israeli political and military interest in existence, you're a retarded burden on humanity and should die ASAP.
>>586235208 You retarded dipshit, do you think we're arabs? Revenge doesn't count for shit if carrying it out would get you killed. We can deal with arab states that surround us, but a whole continent that suddenly turns to a strategic threat to us? We don't have the means and manpower to fight that off. You're fucking nuts for failing to understand basic political science
a hero. those who are in AUF (the political youth party he killed) are some of the most retarded airheads in norway so i don't weep at the loss of them. he knew the reaction the media and common population would have. he knew they'd brand him insane and spread lies about him being a loser going insane in his moms basement until he just took his rifle and left to kill some fags. he planned that shit for years
>>586235793 No dumbass, because unlike your faggot pansy asses that actually allow potenial sharia legislation to islamize your continent over time, we gun down any islamist that raises his head. As for demographics, that's not really an issue either - once a demilitirized palestinian state comes to exist, we move the border westwards and most arab towns that currently reside inside the borders of the green line suddenly fall under palestinian jurisidction and we're free of them at last. You however, arent so lucky, since your birth rates are so low compared to those of immigrats. Can you or can you not deny the fact the most popular name for newborn boys in the UK today is one of the forms on the name Muhammad?
>>586236575 he played WoW as a cover so people would give him space. in his manifesto he mentions how you can bring up something that people don't want to go into detail about like a grown man playing WoW, saying you think you might be gay or something like that. he wasn't a kissless virgin. he just didn't get a girlfriend as it would kinda be in the way of him blowing up a building and shooting a bunch of retards
>>586235793 >he thinks Muslims migrate to Europe to work
Christ, you might as well tattoo "I am retarded" on your forehead. Most Third World immigration into Europe is in order to take advantage of our social policies, which left wing nutjobs extended to everyone who sets foot in the country without contributing in economic high-times. And now the economy is in the shitter they're fighting to keep their destructive policy even while forcing new taxes on the people to pay for it.
Just look at those niggers at Calais. They're all waiting to jump ship to Britain, because Britain has better social policies. And of course because the EU is a farce, French police are forcing truck drivers to take them. Said truck drivers then get fined in Britain for taking refugees. No matter which way you put it, socialism always fucks over the normal guy who's just trying to live his life.
>>586236098 We don't fund anything, you idiot. ISIS doesn't need any funding from us because they control a fuckton of oil fields in northern Iraq now. The americans DID fund ISIS in the early 2000's along with their general plan of strengthing Al Qaeda in the region to smack anti-western regimes, like those of Assad, but that was done due to a faulty mindset assuming that the CIA will be able to contain their terrorist activities to just the middle east, and it was quite a shock to see them branching out so effectively and quickly. Our fault is that we didn't object at the time, since we though it would weaken Assad and Iran's Hezbollah. It worked too well and now we have to plan on how to deal with them too. But fucking Europe with muslims? That's not even helping in us ANY way even in the short run. Instead of narrows down our possible courses of action when we're fighting with Hamas, since it makes european diplomats put pressure on us to appease their own muslims back home. You're talking crazy. Not even /pol/ can be this stupid and get away with it.
>>586237481 Israel backs the Syrian rebels - everyone knows that. You don't fear an organized Islamic state - because an Islamic state is a failing state. Israelis are just bloodthirsty and enjoy seeing the carnage
>>586236988 Israel? A hellhole? Come visit and see how bad it really is, numbnuts. We've got a functional free market economy, high GDP per capita, extremely high R&D investment, low unemployment, free press, dirt cheap health care, secular mindset for most people and good beaches. Hell, even our life expectency is higher than that of Austria despite all the fighting and terrorist activities we get.
>>586235039 These days 4chan is filled with retarded, edgy Americans who get everything they know about Israel from Stormfront and left wing media. You won't find a single European right wing person who is anti-Israel, let alone one who believes in this Jewish conspiracy bullshit.
It's plain as day that the operant factor is socialism, and the social democrats in particular.
Funnily enough, despite not being antisemitic, I find myself developing sympathy for the Nazi's. I dislike that they were a delusional cult who disregarded science when it suited them, but much of their policy is provably sound. Their unashamed nationalism is also very attractive in these times where white, Western people are forced to apologize for everything from slavery to the Crusades, while Muslims try to kill us every day and commited worse crimes in the past, as well. I'm done with this eternal white guilt. And also because Europe, in essence, lost the war. The US and the USSR won, but Europe lost. The countries that supported the Allies most of all.
>>586238013 Backs the syrian rebels. Is that why we only bomb the occasional convoy of arms headed for Hezbollah, Assad lapdogs? I sincerely hope you're trolling. We're not americans that live half a planet away. Any gun that we provide the rebels WILL eventually be used against us directly, hence not giving them shit. We only take in a few injured kids that sneak through the border and give them medical care for a short while. Again, you think we're like arabs to actually "enjoy" seeing carnage. Do you see israelis go out dancing and hand out candy when we hear of large scale death of arabs? That's Hamas exclusive activity
>>586238496 Let them. Once those anti-zionist liberal idiots get cozy enough with muslims and realize they're in for getting murdered in the street simply for being a jew, they'll flee those home countries too. Fools.
He's a psychopath. But if he were left wing, people would call him a hero and print T-shirts with his face on it. If he were a Muslim, people would call him a freedom fighter who's actions are justified by his goals, or they'd just claim it was all a Jewish conspiracy.
Just to remind you: Before it became known who had committed the killings, Islamic organisations immediately issued their condolences. They were fully expecting him to be a Muslim. It's also pretty telling that we're still talking about Breivik, but no-one mentions the Madrid train bombings or the London bus bombings anymore. Or any of the other dozens of terrorist attacks perpetrated by Muslims.
As for me, I don't really care. I've heard too many lefty cunts say this and that right wing politician deserved to die, or other extremist bullshit. Oh no, now some kids who want to destroy Europe died in some other country. I don't care. These were the kind of people who think this shit is justice when it happens to their enemies.
>>586239120 And no, Haaretz isn't israeli press. It's a libtard fringe gazette. Israel Hayom is far more reliable, and they constantly reprimend Bibi for being an indecisive pussy that doesn't get involved in external conflicts at all out of fear of responsibilty.
>>586238668 >Smart immigration laws with investments into integration Yeah, this exactly what ISN'T happening in most Western European countries. In most Western Euro countries, Third World immigrants come to take advantage of social policy. I am young, and I will have no pension and no healthcare thanks to these people when I'm old. All our liberal values are being destroyed because the left has a boner for Islam.
>>586237792 I fucking wish the Israeli's would holocaust the Palestinians. Then they could do the same thing to the rest of the world, for all I care.
I think they should, too. I mean, people are already saying and acting like they're doing it. Why not go whole hog and finish this stupid conflict by eradicating those pests? Plus, they could really use the living space...
>>586239960 this. once someone points out the flaws in the system they talk about how its bad to send people out because of their color. the immigration system is flawed. those who manage to make their way to the west must have enough money and connections to be able to make it in their home countries.
>>586240396 16-24 year olds are not children. those retards are vital for the multicultural socialist scheme to get more mudslimes into the west. saying there is no difference is like saying there was no difference between the soviet and german forces in ww2
>>586240405 They do. It costs thousands of dollars to come to the West. They are scum looking for an easy ride, and our left wing idiots give it to them.
Of course, the left wing has a conflict of interest. They hold a great many posts that make it extremely lucrative for them to keep up the stream of "refugees". Not to mention that most of these parasites will vote left in order to keep their paycheck.
If you ask me, most left wing politicians who are complicit in this belong in jail. It's a clear case of personal interests taking precedent over state interests.
>>586237792 Sorry, you ignorant scum, difference it those ultra orthodox fucks don't make the law here. In fact, the coalition kicked them out and they aren't part of the government, even. Not that it matters. Our 60 years of war still get us a life expectency of 82, which is probably higher than your own. And let me see you make peace with Iran, faggot, since it's a theocracy that doesn't even have a border next to us, but still insists on seeing us as an enemy. Forget it, you're too stupid to even talk to since you don't even understand those basic things.
We have had socialist parties in government for decades. They ARE the corporations. And nothing about this changes the fact that immigrants receive full benefits despite never contributing to the system. And that the system only worked because we were in an economic boom that arrogant politicians ascribed to their own policy and assumed would go on forever.
>>586241217 He's right, though. 16 year olds aren't kids, and I'm getting sick of the media screaming bloody murder for every fucking black thug in his physical prime that gets killed in the US because his age was below the magic number 18.
Similarly you find lefty parties recruiting at as young an age as possible, and proudly parading their young politicians around.
I don't condone what Breivik did, but I also don't condone youth political organisations. They're literally like the Hitler Jugend, except the Nazi's at least loved their country.
>>586241339 >Socialist governments create Social market in Europe >middle class is well fed >Reagan, Thatcher, etc. take over >Corporations move jobs to Asia >Banks need 1 Trillion € bailout so they don't go bancrupt
>Immigrants are the only reason why our economy is fucked >Support people who move jobs to Asia because they at least hate immigrants
>>586241457 They are not even near our borders, you idiot. They're literally on the other side of the region. And yet, the second their islamist revolution hits, they declare we're their mortal enemies and "Little Satan". Before that we were friends and they even sold us oil through the Eilat Port. What the fuck do you want us to do about since it's mostly one sided enmity?
>>586241880 None of that excuses importing people only to waste money on them. It's always the same with you fucknuts. You never adress the actual point someone is making, just to go off on a tangent about ancient history. Are you going to bitch about the Crusades next?
Also, Reagan isn't even a fucking Euro politician, and Thatcher barely is, given the Britain is just Little America.
>>586242792 Not everybody who kills is a psychopath. Some are narcissists, other sadists, other psychotic and some are depressed and go on a rampage. Psychopathy just means being less empathetic and being less emotional
This is why I hate modern media. If an 18 year-old gets stabbed to death by some shitskin, all you'll read is "man stabbed to death". Maybe it should become standard to post pictures of all the victims of multiculturalism, but they'd probably run out of space.
>>586242414 Someone previously said that immigrants are the reason why he wouldn't get a pension when he was old, my response was in that context. The economy of the 80's isn't ancient history, it's what made out countries pay billions of Euros to banks, only to blame it on immigrants and greece.
but to your point. I don't see whats bad about skilled immigrants comming to a country to work in jobs that can't be met by the countries own population. Companies constantly say there are plenty of jobs they simply don't have any workers for, why not meet that demand with immigrants to improve gdp?
My country gets most immigrants from eastern europe. They work hard complain little. Make their kids speak the official language and over a few generations they'll asimilate.
But if you do it wrong, and put them in ghettos without jobs and no future, and they wont integrate and become social outcasts. Thats just bad administration.
>>586244286 Who kills behind the back of courts is a psychopath, there is no doubt about that. If there is a reason to kill somebody it should be done so after court trial and even that would be a barbaric conclusion for a modern court because the goal of justice isn't to punish, but to protect law and order, protecting the people from killers, not become one.
>>586244323 But the left wing did the decades ago. In my country alone one politician has been killed over his anti-immigration stance, and another survived a bomb attack. No handwringing about political affiliation there, though.
That's really part of the reason I don't care. The left has been perpetrating similar attacks for years, and lefty politicians refuse to take responsiblity. So now they can't foist Breivik on the political right, either.
It just goes to show why you should have a nuanced view. If you're going to treat the entire right wing as if they are like this, they might as well act like this, because it makes no difference. And that's exactly what Breivik did.
>>586244712 >I don't see whats bad about skilled immigrants comming to a country to work in jobs that can't be met by the countries own population. You see the real problem is that these people have no fucking skills. This is the same reason that there countries are fucking shit in the first place. Niggers, Most Gooks and Spics can't even build shit to house themselves or fucking feed themselves. They are a waste of space on this planet and If they were all killed off the IQ of this planet would rise 20 points instantly. Seriously a 12 year old white kid is smarter then your average full grown nigger.
>>586245652 >the real problem is that these people have no fucking skills come on your opinion is exagerated. Our countries can decide who gets in and who doesn't, why don't they just make it like a job interview. the best with certified education get in.
Instead you have russian chemists who work as taxi drivers because their education isn't worth shit in my country.
>>586244712 >I don't see whats bad about skilled immigrants comming to a country to work in jobs that can't be met by the countries own population. You're not adressing my point, here, because this is not what is happening. What is happening is that unskilled immigrants are coming from the Third World, refuse to adapt, claim we're all racist at the drop of a hat, and never contribute to the system while receiving benefits that are closed to natives.
For instance, we have a housing crisis. You may have to wait 10 years to even be in the position to buy a house. But useless immigrants get one for free, even bumping natives off the waiting list. How is that fair? This is how this guy loses his pension: It's being paid out to others, while nothing comes in to replace it.
>My country gets most immigrants from eastern europe. They work hard complain little. Make their kids speak the official language and over a few generations they'll asimilate.
But these are not the immigrants the discussion is about. Furthermore, the commonly accepted fact that they are coming here to do jobs locals are too snooty to do is a myth perpetrated by the corporatists. These people are paid their local minimum wage, which is far below the livable level in Western Europe. They are being exploited, and they occupy jobs that would normally go to skilled natives. The quality of service drops dramatically, but prices remain the same and the difference goes into the pockets of the corporations while the politicians scream "MUH ECONOMY". And the same rules still apply. Because despite officially being paid in their home countries, these guys are eligable for benefits here. Or the company just tosses them out after a while, they become homeless, and turn to crime. In all cases society foots the bill, and the bill is forwarded to the normal guy who also has trouble finding fucking work because of this shitty arrangement.
>>586246219 >Instead you have russian chemists who work as taxi drivers because their education isn't worth shit in my country. No you have niggers with their shit third world educated doctorates who are too fucking stupid to clean out a toilet, since they have never fucking seen one.
>>586245827 >>586245964 >>586246062 revenge dreams of a psychopath VS. common sense to give everybody a trial and chance to protect himself from false accusations and most importantly to defend himself.
I pick the later options, for my own good.
Do you think Breivik cared if there was somebody accidentally there on that island, like a salesman or somebody just gone near by a building where he blasted off the bomb? No, psychopaths decide in 1 second who is to die or not, they don't want to give it a fair trial.
>>586246520 >I think by now we should have overcome a neanderthal urge to smash everything that doesn't fit our taste. Yeah go over there and tell the Islamic state to stop giving in to their thirst for blood. I'm sure your limp dicked left wing Kumbaya won't prevent you from losing your head and brain LOL.
>>586244712 But if you do it wrong, and put them in ghettos without jobs and no future, and they wont integrate and become social outcasts. Thats just bad administration.
But this is already a reality all over Europe. Except nobody put them in ghetto's, they started living there themselves. And nobody denied them work, they do not want to work. Simply put, Muslims in Europe live in their own micro-society, with their own neighbourhoods, their own stores, their own laws. And the left wing has supported them in this citing their idealism. And anyone who has criticism on this lefty policy literally has to fear for their lives. Two prominent people have been killing for this criticism, another was attacked and very likely frauded out of the elections, and the most recent has been living under a 24/7 security detail for the past ten years. But the loudmouths all claim despite this that THESE people are the dangerous ones. You know, not the ones perpetrating the political murders.
Whichever way you put it, immigration in Western Europe is the result of corrupt politics and should be ended.
>>586246682 >common sense to give everybody a trial and chance to protect himself from false accusations and most importantly to defend himself. Shitskins, niggers and other foreign trash are not entitle to courts made by white men. Hang them all
>>586246219 Again with the shit that is simply not happening.
I mean, I would be happy if it actually were the way you're saying it is, but it bloody well fucking isn't.
Also, foreign educations are often incompatible with the local way of working, and reschooling these people can be more effort and expense than simply hiring someone who was trained correctly from the start. This is one of the reasons for Europe switching to the Bachelor/Master system.
And why don't you support my Idea of making immigration like a job interview? Simply saying ALL of the are bad won't solve shit.
You say your country has a housing crisis. Do you support parties that build more public appartments for everyone? In my country socialists do this and we have no housing crisis. You know solving a problem instead of blaming the foreigner.
>But these are not the immigrants the discussion is about We have many immigrants from Bosnia aswell, many of them are muslim But they are very chill people and I consider some to be my best friends.
>They are being exploited, and they occupy jobs that would normally go to skilled natives. Then why don't you support parties that raise the minimum standards for everyone? If a corporation isn't allowed to exploit immigrants for less pay then the more skilled person should get the job. It's allways the same. Just blaming the ones who have it the worst, while supporting your right wing politician who's getting paid by the exploiting corporatist.
I see your problems, but please accept the fact that I try to find sollutions instead of just playing the blame game.
Good administration is key in immigration. Blaming immigrants and isolating them only makes matters worse.
>>586247568 How can people be sure you only kill shitskins if one is to give you the power to kill? History has taught is that people mostly kill those that are easiest to kill and those aren't the enemies.
>>586247780 Heh People like you don't deserve to live in this safe society our forefathers created for us (If you're white which I doubt). People like you deserved to get gang raped by a pack of niggers or to lose you're head by the sand niggers. Unfortunately we can't drop people like you into the middle of Africa.
>>586248340 Are you comparing tribes with cities now? People that talk about what somebody has done in past for country are mostly those who people from past fought against. If there were only people like you we wouldn't have no past, we would be extinct by now.
>>586248620 I never said it was good Or bad just that it's natural to kill and also Brevik killing commie kids is actually good because it benefits me because there is going to be less shit skins poluting the west. Islamic State actually also benefit's me because they mostly kill other shit skins and that's always a good thing.
>>586248239 >but you are racist I haven't said a single racist thing in any of the posts you're reponding to, and you're simply calling me racist because you think I don't agree with your political opinions (while I mostly do, actually). This has to be my biggest pet peeve with modern politics, and I'm getting really tired of being called racist for simply not agreeing with stupid policy. Please stop this bullshit.
>And why don't you support my Idea of making immigration like a job interview? Did you not read my post? I wish it were like this, but it isn't. The strongest measures passed in recent times are that the government isn't going to give an automatic pass for "family re-uniting" immigration anymore, and that immigrants have to learn the language, now.
>Simply saying ALL of the are bad won't solve shit. Neither will saying that they're all special, little angels.
>Do you support parties that build more public appartments for everyone? There are no such parties.
>In my country socialists do this and we have no housing crisis. In my country socialists run the social housing corporations, and make an effort to accrue as much dirty money as they can while building as few homes as possible. Even the socialist parties vote for more infrastructure rather than housing, and they have greenlit two new mosques in my city while housing remains nonexistent. Oh, but they do deny local people the possibility of buying homes in the neighbourhoods they grew up in, purposefully granting them to immigrants or other outsiders in an open attempt at cultural marxism.
>You know solving a problem instead of blaming the foreigner. The left solves no problems except the problem of the government not having enough money. I do not blame foreigners, I blame the left. And the "right" corporatists. Just fuck politicians altogether.
>>586247102 with shit administration that is. You blame muslims for every shit, but beware if anyone mentions you yourself might be isolating them.
If you have such a problem with immigration why don't you just make it smarter? Like only allowing women to migrate so you get more pussy? Or take people from different countries so the only common language is your official language?
Why don't take the best people other countries have to offer and get them a good job and their kids a good education, so they benefit your country?
But instead you just say Nein Nein Nein, you are nothing better than the imam who wants sharia law. You live off a society you haven't contributed anything to, but your fat ass is shitting on everyone who tries to make an honest living here.
>>586249691 Good fuck you hopefully when I'm dead I never have see faggots like you again. You know why I know god don't exist. Cause he made stupid niggers and other subhumans and even If he did I wan't nothing to do with him.
>>586248239 >We have many immigrants from Bosnia aswell, many of them are muslim >But they are very chill people and I consider some to be my best friends. This is anecdotal evidence. I argue from facts. I've met enough Muslims I like, my grandmother is a Polish immigrant, and my mother is from Africa. Have I won the oppression olympics yet?
>Then why don't you support parties that raise the minimum standards for everyone? The social democrats in my country speak of Polish workers in terms that gets right wing politicians proscecuted when they speak in similar terms of Islamic immigrants. They are in cahoots with the corporatists to ensure this loophole continues existing. The parties that would argue for this come with a bundle of insane policy on top of it, and the experience teaches that they will drop this line of policy as soon as they are elected.
>Just blaming the ones who have it the worst, while supporting your right wing politician who's getting paid by the exploiting corporatist. Are you even reading my posts? Or are you just sitting there smelling your own farts? I have railed against the corporatists multiple times, and they can go fuck themselves. I support minimum wage for all workers in this country for exactly the reasons you state. I do not blame immigrants for the policy of politicians.
I do blame immigrants for their actions, which is why I have a lot of trouble with Third World mass immigration. I don't mind the Polish people. I do mind the fucking Muslims who call my sister a whore on the streets of our nation's capital. I do mind the fucking Somali's who threaten my mother's life for trying to save their shitty inbred kids, who receive their treatment courtesy of the state, which is exactly why they came here in the first place.
>Good administration is key in immigration. I agree. That's what I've been fucking saying all this time. But because I have criticism on how it is handled in my country, you called me a racist multiple times.
>>586249875 Will you stop putting words in my mouth? I'm all for the stuff you say, but that's not the way it is.
And like I said in my other posts, I blame Muslims for the way they act. I blame everyone for how they act. Muslims just act a lot shittier than other people in general. I'll approach the individual with the benefit of the doubt, but as a community the Muslims in Europe are fucked, and it's plainly written across the statistics.
What I find especially baffling is how you're holding on to this image you have of me, despite me saying at every turn "yes, that is smart, I would like it if it were like that, but sadly it isn't".
What we have today in Europe is the political policy of mass immigration, and it's literally the reverse of everything you're proposing. It's bad policy, and it's bad on purpose.
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