How manageable is it in a general sense? For someone who has large amounts of prescribed amphetamines what are the pros/cons of moving up? Daily intake a lot more than label, but the fact I run out every month forces me to manage/figure it out once it happens. Stims have really been my "click" other than a really really heavy nod, but I'd prefer to stay somewhat productive for now.
>>584059384 I don't play the game anymore. just sometimes buy packs for nostalgia factor, pulled a houndoom awhile back. thought it was dope.
>>584059407 honestly, I have met very few who can manage it. I can only semi-manage it. shit is jus too fun and easy to redose than other amps. you can go for days, weeks even on meth with minimal sleep, same isn't true of any others, you'll burn out.
if you stick to oral consumption, I think you might be able to. but start smoking/IVing and I promise you won't be able to keep it up for more than a few months.
>>584059461 it's alright. Overall I am reasonably content. at least as content as somehow posting a thread on 4chan at 4am could be, meth or no meth.
probably working some average, moderately well paying job. slacking as always. may or may not still be smoking meth though. meth or no meth, my situation would likely be fairly similar.
>>584059864 Yeah, I can barely manage the month to month shit. Even with the meds redosing is too unavoidable. So easy to burn out too. I guess the reality check just comes for those times in between refills. Hope all stays well with you
>>584059519 not at all. I would say I am comfortably aware of my surroundings though. and I don't think I am delusional either, but I guess thats kinda the nature of being delusional, no??read the thread, let me know if you agree.
>>584059559 depressed as fuck, lethargic, irritable, suicidal. can't find a reason to live. I can deal with the comedowns. but since I've been using for awhile, the anhedonic state following no meth is shitty as fuck. that's hard to deal with. but yes, like other guy said, don't come down...how I got hooked on the stuff, really
>>584059662 I used to shoot a bunch of heroin. it's similar to meth in that they chemically make everything ok, heroin fills you with warmth and comfort and good feels, meth makes you feel simiar but instead of just existing you wanna do everything ASAP and be awesome at doing so. different strokes for different folks. I could never be a heroin addict again though, the amount of time wasted with your chin on your chest drooling on yourself is a huge turn off.
>>584059749 have done my fair share of psys, can't say I am a fan. I dig K/MXE though, not technically a psy but whatever
>>584060259 no never. used to slang a bunch of shit but quit.
and I have met one black dude ever who used, and he was like a dead-head sorta guy. the one time I bought meth from a black person it was fucking garbage. I have wondered the same thing, blacks have a hand in every other criminal enterprise, why not meth too?
>>584060274 actually gotten pink tinged stuff before, before breaking bad was even a thing.
>>584060446 Houndoom don't give a fuck. I used to battle competitively online, totally lost interest when fairy became a thing, it fucked it all. though interesting to see dragon weakened and poison worth a shit.
>>584060542 mine's actually an ash catcher with a 14mm pizzo and a mouthpiece. plan to shop around for a better mouthpiece one of these days though.
biggest piece was 1.5 grams. pictured is somewhere around 4 grams total. shit's bomb.
>>584061010 >you're doing it wrong haha no, i was doing it right
drugs aren't for everyone man, i tried, and realized nop, fuck that. not for me
i'm more into sex than drugs i don't know why but i've tried alcohol, weed,mdma and mushrooms and all i can say is that to me, and for me they're just not worth doing
i tried each between 3 to 5 times and then i stopped
it's just not for me, i'll stick to sex because there's no comedown there and i don't have to force myself to take it in like i had to with booze(tastes horrible) weed (smells and tastes horrible, the cotton mouth is shit etc) and so on and so forth
jesus christ dude, for $1000 TOPS you can set up a primo RP/I lab, complete witt top of the glassware, condenser, hotplates, vac chamber, etc ...hell even drop another couple thousand and you could probably get a shed w/ a generator or solar panels, and put it wherever you want
you can get precursor for cheap too if you've got money
>>584061413 pretty good. just made some dank burritos earlier.
no no job yet. but I haven't been looking either so thats kind of expected. boughta pick up a bunch of ganga for real cheap tomorrow, make a pretty penny off flipping that so next couple month's rent and health insurance will be covered. we good.
>>584060293 my bad. but yeah, compulsive redo sing kinda comes with any stimulant. meth just ratchets this desire up a bunch cause blowing clouds is the shit. truthfully, meth and scripted amps aren't THAT different....just one is available 24/7, dealer don't give a fuck if it's only been 24 days since your previous refill
I haven't played in years, so the scene may have changed. but it's kinda hard honestly. depending on what tier you play in, there's basically a 'cookie cutter' group of teams that EVERYONE uses, with minor variations to them. its a game of guessing, pre-emptive switching out, status ailments, etc.
I would recommend just reading or watching battle videos, then making your own team and trying it in battle tower. not quite the same, but it helps a bit. also playing the UU or NU tier, people have a hell of a lot more variation and creativity in their teams, I always thought this was a lot more fun than OU or Uber where near everyone was using the same 10-15 pokemon.
wow haha like 15 minted before posting this I got a 1.8 of some fire for $90...you should look into production....though I hear the dudes handling the meth game down there are pretty brutal
>>584062046 damn haha thats the worst. I am always looking for new hooks, one of the weed dealers near me offered some crystal so I figured fuck it, why not...got a $20 bag, went home and threw that shit on the scale..0.16g, which was expected. threw some in the pizzo, my god was that stuff awful. on looks alone I'd have guessed it was cut to shit, but damn I don't even know if there was any in there. saw the guy the next day, was all like 'BRO U NEED MORE SHARDS YOU GONA BE REPEAT CUSTUMER'...was like sorry man, you should find a new hook that was trash...
>>584062180 for a single gram of good stuff I pay $60-70. half ball (1.8g) for $90-100 (yeah, what the fuck...), ball for $160-180. this is from my white, clean cut dealer who only sells the good. gives me hookups cuae I hooked him up with a reagent kit haha, bags are usually half g or so heavy.
if I get from a mexican, quality is lower but so is price. usually pay $50 for a single, $140 for a ball, $250 for quarter, $450 half ounce, ounces like $800 or so. even heard of decent stuff for $700 before.
>>584062226 yeah I am functioning. well I can be, I am not currently (just living off money I saved up). have a few jobs I could work if I chose to, just rather not at this point.
>>584062340 thats the kinda shit people do in UU or NU tier. I had some cool themed teams like that back when I used to play, mostly geared towards movies and stuff.
>>584062763 I can tell you have never done meth. may have never even done adderall.
and I have a bunch of adderall at the moment, but I chose not to consume. with my tolerance it would take like, 100mg to feel anything.
>>584062846 yeah it's fucking hilarious. dude got all defensive like 'BRUH I SELL METH FOR LIKE 4 YEARS I NEVER GOT BAD SHIT' and I was dumbfounded, I gave you a chance you blew it simple as that.
I sometimes say that to people when cold copping if I resort to cold copping, like hey can you help me get a $20? I'll give you $10 right now, just be honest if you are going to get me shitty product and we can just call it off, save the effort. but if it's good, I'll keep buying more.
>>584063484 thanks, man. these posts always make me lol, some people voice actual concern for my well being, which, while I don't care, is admirable of them. but these ones baffle me. an unoriginal grade school tier insult followed by vacating the thread. why even bother?
>>584063526 making sure to be well rested before consuming. also eating right works wonders. if you don't eat or sleep ever, your highs are gonna be lackluster.
I take fish oil, been taking it for like, 2 months now? I find it helps to lessen the comedown substantially.
>>584064073 I've read the taking dopamine precursors actually further increases neurotoxicity. don't wanna make a fool of myself cause I don't know the terminology, but it had something to do with free radicals generated during dopamine production basically calcifying neurotransmitters or something like that.
I was taking a few of them for a little while, I didn't notice any difference and then I read that and just stopped entirely.
>>584064018 why even bother making this shit tier thread then? you're nothing but a junkie fuck, probably making life hell for the people close to you. you selfish fuck. you probably take pride in making this thread' fuck you
the thread was ask a methhead anything. all you're doing is crying. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have, but 'have fun destroying your life' is not a question, nor is it even a topic of discussion, or funny, or porn, any of which would be acceptable. it doesn't add anything to anything. so like I said, why bother?
>>584064589 can you get that OTC? not ritalin, the other stuff
>>584065379 wow that may be the single most civil response I have ever seen on 4chan haha.
it's not much different than normal amp, aside from the euphoria. someone compared it to weed, amp is like mid grade, meth is like AAA indoor dank. they get you to the same place, just one gets you there a whole lot faster.
I do only smoke. I do not ever intend to IV. while I am kinda impulsive and reckless, I still don't want this shit to be the death of me. I used to be a heroin junkie, when I made the switch from smoking it to IV'ing, things went downhill fast. considering I like smoked meth more than I ever liked IV heroin, I can't even imagine IV meth.
Do you REALLY think your lowly physic Houndooon could even damage my magcicarp? Seriously bro does it even lift? I've got all 9 badges and just itching to beat up fools with my pokemon. Get at me bro comon lets go.
>>584067649 I just was with someone who had someone so I smoked with them. no crazy story or anything.
I don't do very many drugs these days. I only do meth, and smoke weed a few times per week. I have done most of the common ones, they're fun and all but I don't really have any desire to continue using them. K and whippets are fun though.
>>584068218 >are there really any decent people on /b/? Yes. Why wouldn't be? People are just a little bit more raw here, that doesn't mean everyone's an asshole. [spoiler]although it's a little worse in /b/ because that's where all the newfags come[/spoiler]
>I like to think we're all fucked up one way or another
Yes, every single human being on the planet is. But you're not only not trying to improve, but you're probably fucking up your whole family's life.
>>584067991 that is just about the most cliche thing I have ever heard, man. Lay off the AA. I don't think I have ruined anyone's life with my decision to use, I don't steal, lie, anything like that. sure, maybe they worry more than otherwise - but is that really ruining their life?
as for the pride thing...I don't even really know how to reply to that. I don't 'pride' myself on smoking meth, do you know how stupid that sounds? I've had experiences much of the population never will have...so I posted a thread regarding those. would you prefer to see a bunch of threads, like, 'hey ask a totally normal guy anything'?
>>584068704 >Who gives a fuck anyway? His family, probably
>>584068783 >but is that really ruining their life? I'm sure they love the idea that their son is a junkie who's not trying to improve and spends his day on /b/ saying how awesome he's for being addicted to meth.
>would you prefer to see a bunch of threads, like, 'hey ask a totally normal guy anything'?
You don't have nothing new/interesting to say, you might as well be a normal guy. A thread from someone who's trying to stop the meth addiction would be 100 times more interesting.
>>584068306 I'm not saying there aren't functional heroin addicts, but when I was using so much time was spent watching TV, curled up under a blanket while nodding face. relaxing, sure, but I just never applied myself to anything while high.
perhaps my description was a bit overblown.
>>584068545 what's with this whole 'fucking up my family's life thing'? where did that come from? my parents know I do drugs, but I am an adult, and they recognize there's no sense in telling me not to do something I want to do. they also recognize that if shit got real bad, I'd hopefully have the sense to turn things around...and if it didn't they'd likely intervene.
I have a great relationship with them, we talk frequently, and I don;t bullshit them. if things got bad, I would let them know. they know this.
>>584069197 hahaha, man, they certainly don't love the idea...but living your life according to someone else's standards is terribly unhealthy.
and where did the 'not trying to improve' thing come from? you have such limited insight into my life, yet you speak as if you live it. I don't recall saying I'm awesome at any point in the thread, either, that was all you.
I must have something new/interestig to say, as evidenced by the 100 odd posts in this thread? or were they all just asking for some reason other than genuine curiosity?
nah dude that aint meth. sounds like MSM. pure meth crackbacks damn near right away, like a few seconds after removing the heat source it should (depending on glass thickness, how much meth is loaded, too)
>>584069532 haha I don't think it matters what I say, you're either gonna call me a liar or scumbag....
Well OP very interesting thread here to say the least. Me and another buddy and his misses got addicted it to it probably nearly a year ago now. We ran into quite a lengthy supply of Ice pills. But these were not your regular amphetamine speed pills, they were 98% Methamphetamine pills. They were little squares that imprinted Ice in the middle, and a line on the back. Very well compressed pill, busted up well too. In the span of about a month and a half me and 2 other friends of mine insuffulated over 150 Ice pills. I can tell you it's really fun at first, this huge burst of energy, ciggarettes are heaven, You're feeling 'FAST' for lack of better words. Sleep really became a thing of the past for us aswell. At first we'd only do a full one between 3 of us every 5 hours but you quickly develop a tolerance and need to do more to get those profound effects like the first time. That time turned into a half hour inbetween doing them. I also got this crazy thought that kept repeating that told me to buy more or it would be all gone and there would be no more, so I continued to purchase it. After all that paranoia started to kick in big time, and we thought there was an undercover who was going to bust our ass. I must have spent 4 days lieing in the bathtub in my bathroom, with a 12 IN there beside me waiting for the cops to bust the door of my house down. On the 4th day, I came down hard and felt like absolute shit. And I had to go get my two cheques from two different places that I was working. Safe to say on the Highway I spent half the time hauling over to get sick. And when I met said employers It was noted I looked deathly sick. Anyway at this point I know meth is affecting my physical looks (Black under the eyes and yellow tinge to rest of face) that and a lack of sleep. As well from not eating I went to under 99 lb/s, my mood changed drastically, and I had crazy delusions that I genuinely belived to be real. Fucked my school habbits quite bad. CONT.
>>584070316 well what are you looking for from the high?
>>584070505 so much garbage going around these days. and people are getting better and better at faking it. it's depressing. real meth should crackback quickly and with a feathery/snowy pattern. N-iso, a common cut, crackbacks similarly, but you'll exhale way fatter clouds and the bowls go FAST.
I'd highly advise getting a reagent test, they're no more than $25 online. doesn't tell purity, but has saved me from buying crap on more than one occasion.
>>584070459 Even to the point where I droppe out. It has been affecting my work, I need to do it at work to get the burst of enery and whipped sensation to get the job done. >Constantly doing it at work. >Delusions become far more horrific and scary. >Friends feed off one of another's fear, paranoia. >LOOSE MY MIND >Shitbrix.avi I can say that's really it. It was great at first but it turned into something crazy and horrific. Anything in moderation can be good, I agreee with that. But you really can't abuse Meth the way you think you would any other substance. It will make you loose your mind, and will kill you. It makes you do some unpredictable things at some points. And I have a really addictive personality so I know it doesn't help my story any. I never went as far to smoking it and I'm glad. Also the withdrawals were absolutely shit. I'm glad I only smoke pot now, and the scatter rail seems far too enjoyable :D Never drink either. Anyway I just wanted to tell you some of my story when I became a total meth head. And all those posts and image that say "Meth not once" their right. Don't ever try it kids.
>>584070960 I agree, I probably should. but until the desire to change comes from within, it's worthless. and as of now, I have no desire to change. I appreciate the concern, but that's the nature of addiction. have you ever dealt closely with an addict, or been one yourself? it would make a lot more sense.
>>584071334 I was addicted to food a while back, and I spent the last two years losing weight (I'm finishing it this year). It's obviously a lot different than drugs, I know, I only changed when I wanted/needed and I didn't really cared when people gave advice. But at the same time, the advice people gave me when I didn't care helped me when I actually wanted to lose weight. So I think it doesn't hurt to tell you my 2 cents on this thread.
>>584071619 it's not all that much different than a drug addiction, really. but like you say, you changed when you wanted to, up until then it was hot air. I could sign up for some fancy rehab, go through the notions, etc etc, but the day I am given the freedom to use again , I would.
and for the record, I am open to hearing anything, I just think it's retarded when people like dive-bomb the thread, say like 'JUNKIE SCUM RUINING UR FAMLY'and thats the end of it. obviously what you are now doing isn't that, but you entered and started spewing baseless cliches you got the same response as the rest.
>>584072528 haha thanks man, glad to hear you are enjoying.
and I don't pay too much attention to them, but admittedly they do make me think. I am a drug addict, there is no refuting this. I'm 22, been a heavy user of most everything since 13 or so. I can't pinpoint WHY, but I believe I will be an addict until the day I die. self fulfilling prophecy, I know. deep down I don't want to hurt anyone - but at the same time, I gotta consider my own quality of life. I'm pretty open regarding my use, if someone asks they'll get the truth. and this doesn't mix well with people that don't want me to do them. I have the decency to not lie through my teeth, but have no intention of stopping. bit of a mexican standoff haha.
>>584072592 As a pretty vain person pretty much the only thing that scares me off meth is how it makes you look after years of use (eg faces of meth) How do you feel about ruining your skin, etc.. Is it as bad as I expect it to be?
I can maybe clarify this, but don't turn it into factual shit pls.
We've had a lot of big pharmacuetical companies stationed in Holland and have been distributing shit for decades. As far as I know that's basically what we did in every war ever. Try to remain neutral and sell both sides drugs and guns.
WW2 it was mainly amphetamine next to coke and other opiates. I think the people here just picked up where they left off regarding what they were producing.
Also I do have the feeling that since our weed and hasj is legal, diverse in effect, and of epic quality we tend to go more for that particular quality at hand. (yay for elitism)
>>584073561 Yeah thought about that too. I personally know of 1 person in my hometown who uses heroin. Never heard about meth use before. Coke/speed/mdma is being used so much although I quit with that I still smoke weed daily. Most of my friends still use tho
>>584073365 lol what do you mean 'by being a drug addict'? thats ludicrous man. I contribute nothing by being a drug addict...I just am one. I don't take anything either though...I pay taxes, have health insurance, vote, recycle, etc. I even do quite a bit of volunteer work.
I don't currently have a job. by choice though (sounds like bullshit, I know). just wanted some time away from everything to just exist, pretty much. I have the funds to do so, so I did. I could return to either of my old jobs whenever I want.
good relationship with family. like I said, I am not a liar, I don't steal. I will tell them anything they want to know. obviously they don't approve of my meth use.
luckily no. but I am very careful. when I was selling, the biggest risk was driving back to my house after picking up, otherwise I did all other transactions on foot.
>>584073531 expect your teeth to yellow, to get skinner, bags under your eyes, etc. I don't think my skin is ruined.
>>584059157 So I haven't tried too many drugs, or at least not too many mainstream recreational ones. Used to smoke a bit of weed before I realized that wasn't really my thing. I much prefer stimulants because I feel that they have a positive effect on my life and productivity, however it seems most stimulants of any real strength have more drawbacks than they're worth.
Right now I take modafinil which is pretty cool, but is ineffective after a couple weeks of regular usage. Tried ritalin but that shit is awful and I fucked up my dopamine levels so bad it took months for me to return to normal. Probably didn't help I was taking fat doses regularly. Haven't tried any true amphetamines nor any other mainstream stims like cocaine because the price is too high, in terms of money and effect on my life.
Basically I guess I'm asking if there a stimulant out there that you've tried that isn't likely to fuck me over in the long run?
>>584073365 how do you contribute to society? unless you run your own business selling something that isn't a scam, or are a doctor or something, your job only exists as a form of charity, and could be done much better by a machine
>>584075486 "Organized crime" is a lot more common than I would have figured. I know I'm not OP, but I have a little experience. Most recent.
>someone steals three grand and a good ten grams of blow from Kane >get asked at the bar if it was Doobs >only one nigga hang out at bar that is connected to us, Shale >tell Mr. Green what happened >next night, drunk call from Green >"I need a ride." >we snort blow while driving to shales house >walk up to door >mr green just opens it and walks in >shalesfamilyisnotherethankgod.gif >mr green ties shale to chair after brief struggle >beats the piss out of him >we leave
I've got a few, actually. Know a guy hiding out in my town who is most wanted in a province. Another guy who will/has cut fingers off for a few hundred dollars. It's fun, something new everyday with this lifestyle.
>>584075538 Yes methylphenidate is a drug, and I personally would not call it a "medicine" because I was not ever diagnosed with a condition that it would treat.
>>584075681 I spent a lot of time thinking about getting some MDMA but it is almost impossible to get it pure. A lot of shit you can buy on the street does not even contain MDMA. Furthermore, it does not seem that it would have any positive effect on my overall mental health and well-being, at least not in the long run.
crazy mike used to cook meth, and this one time he was driving upstate to sell it to his connect. Since he's got a couple pound of meth, of course he's got his gun on him in case a cop pulls him over. And since he's driving so far, of course he's high as fuck on the meth. So he sees this hitchhiker, and assumes he's a government spy for some reason, and pulls out his gun and is about to kill him when he forgot bullets. Hahahaha. By the time he got bullets, the hitchhiker was nowhere to be found.
>>584076172 >why even bother asking if you are going to fill in the blanks yourself? don't be fresh now.. I didn't wan to be rude and I'm just curious if all the stereotypes I have about methheads are true or not. I thought you're doing this to answer some questions..
Haha, the mexican standoff allegory (isdatritehowdoienglish) is extremely fitting. I've been at war with myself many 'a time after noticing how my weed-habits influenced my surroundings. Did have a hand in curing a good friend's alcoholism because I told him to go smoke, haha. He's the only person I've ever had a serious talk like that about the option of maybe using dis drug mmkay. But I feel it's the most important responsibility of a drug-user to keep trying to perceive and act accordingly to what's best for the people around you.
used to hang with this dude and his friend, they were pretty stereotypical tweakers. used to always make jewelry, then take it to festivals and sell it, actually made a decent bit too. was funny, he was always trying to get me to take one of his classes, but it costed $50 per lesson haha. dude was bats hit fucking crazy though, used to always ramble about reptilians, mammalians, insectizoids, etc and how to spot them. sometimes in public he would go off on people cause they were a reptilian, which was obviously bad. I remember one time I was at his house and he was covered in blood and the walls were ripped out, he kept saying something about police in the walls, I guess he punched a mirror which was where all the blood came from. anyway have a ton of stories from these two
one of the most terrifying things I have seen was when I was picking up an ounce from a tatted up buff mexican dude who was aligned with a certain gang from El salvador. anyway I went into his apartment and he opened the door, and right away took a gun out, and leaned a chair up against the door so someone couldn't force their way in(he had never done this previously). the lights were all off, and two hood rats were sitting on his couch in complete silence. he handed me the bag without saying a word, I gave him the money, and I was like 'dude, you ok?', he looked me dead in the eyes and whispered 'I'm scared'. I don't know what caused all that but he's good now.
>Crazy Mike spent the meth money on a ranch that he uses to produce more meth >He has this system where you park the car, rev it hard, kill the engine, walk to the front door, clear your throat, and then say "Hey mike?" >anyone who didn't do this is a government agent and must be destroyed >anyways, Tom's living there as a cook for a while cuz he's got no rent money left >Tom invites his girlfriend up and forgets to tell her about the system >she just comes up and rings the doorbell >EVERYONE's eyes go huge >like half the people there pull out their pieces >someone fires at the front door >toms girlfriend starts screaming and crying >Oh shit. >she didn't even get shot! >but it took like 3 hours to calm her down and make her promise not to call the cops >none of us ever saw her again
>>584077718 i have a friend like the first guy, his kid was in my year at school and had like, no friends, we started hanging out with him after we finished school and went round his dads flat sometimes, dude was so happy his kid had friends he's let us all hung out in his flat, even when his kid wasn't there, give us weed and stuff, if you engaged him in conversation for more than a minute you couldn't get him to stop talking about the reptilians though, was convinced 2012 was real, bet me £20 that by the end of the year money would be worthless
>be only 17 >be with 16 year old friend >sitting at kitchen table of connect >snorting, smoking, general good time >his buddy owes money to some native gang >we don't know this >door kicked open >"GOT OUR MONEY!?" >he just laughs and says to fuck off >grab him, drag him to bathroom >"aaargghhh!" >they come out, leave >he comes out, no fingertip
Kind of surprising how many mahfk's cut off fingers..
I was wondering what made you start taking meth regularly. I read that it was just coincidal at first (your friend offered you some and you smoked some) but did you have a desire to go deeper into drugs before? Or was shit so amazing that you did not want (I do not say 'could not') stop? Or just pure curiousness ?
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