BACKSTORY: Me and this girl were at my flat, home alone, first time I met her, and she was by no means a slut, and I would not be someone she would fuck under normal circumstance, but we were smoking weed, and fell asleep at about 1am together in the same bed (she consentfully slept in my bed, it wasn't a sexual gesture, it was either my bed or the floor) but at about 4am, I woke up, and instinctivly cuddled her, and, low and behold, we ended up fucking. When we woke up in the morning, we didn't talk about it, and I bought it up this evening, and she said she thought it was a dream, and she seems pissed. She said, word for word, "come on man thats not cool" But its not like I forced her to do anything right? She was smiling throughout it, and it was sensual, but its not something shed usually do? Did I take advantage of her? We wouldnt have been still stoned, as it was like 3 hours later, and we didn't smoke that much, but still....
Am I a rapist? Did I do anything wrong? IF she wanted to press charges, would i be a rapist for starting it?
>>583689638 Pig. If you have sex with a girl that hasn't specifically said "it is okay for you to penetrate me until completion" and then afterwards says, " it was okay for you to have penetrated me to completion" then you have raped and committed patriarchy
I hope you burn in hell after you get raped to death in prison you white male privilege.
>>583689638 Keep the texts, if tries to play the rape card in court you're gonna need them. Just bring up a "look it was a mistake on both our parts, it happened but we may as well just have enjoyed the moment, neither of us said anything about it."
>>583690776 >If you have sex with a girl that hasn't specifically said "it is okay for you to penetrate me until completion" and then afterwards says, " it was okay for you to have penetrated me to completion" then you have raped
This is literally the most ridiculously powerful card a woman has in the court, and it's so fucking dumb. There can be no verbal contact between the two of you, you could undress her and she could not resist at all, and even go along with it, but the moment she says "I didn't give him my consent, and I was scared" she has pretty much already won the case because she didn't say "fuck me in the ass anon."
>>583691058 you are obviously patriarchy. make since though, since 2 out of five women are raped in their life time. that means 2 out of 5 men rape in their life times. you are privileged and it reaks.
bullshit. she is testing you. read about shittests.
you both enjoyed it and now she is testing if you can handle stress and have good self esteem. make some jokes about it and say you think it was wonderful, though. and normally you wouldnt admit it, but you are even a little hurt because you thought she enjoyed it too.
if shee keeps on being a bitch, say that you are not ashamed of yourself doing something that you both wanted.
ffs why do i go on this site again? betas everywhere and no evil minds anymore.
i also did that once and she was pulling a,lmost the same words as your bitch did and i didnt bend to her, but did what i just told you and we ended up as fuckbuddys. you fucking moron really.
and your belief "i couldnt get her in usual ways" is limiting yourself. you just did it didnt you? she wanted it didnt she? and now where you could make a fuckbuddy you care about the fucking rapeshit man. this is why you will always be a looser if you dont change. im blocking this beta site now. fuck you all, no brothers on here anymore.
>>583691239 how is she suppose to object or resist with patriarchy? males are privileged the only recourse it to prosecute to the fullest extent that the laws allow (not enough if you ask me) your comment is rape culture
I it okay man i do this all the time. You should not have brought it up and do it another few times until she brought it up. You might have ended up with a fuckbuddy or girlfriend. Ps.it was not rape and if you don't mention it again and keep it cool and casual she won't get you in trouble. Act like it is no big deal.
Ugh this site disgusting me now. It seems like its always summer now sigh. Hey retard, you fucked. Stop being a bitch about it. Either continue fucking her or stop talking to her, that simple. And as far as incrimiating your self. Usually something as serious as rape is not usually shrugged off as possibly being a dream. Your fine with your text. These people are retarded and can't speech check a no receipt return.
Im been hanging out with a girl for a while, and we usually gets all sexual and grabby when cuddling, wanking eachother off and whatnot, but recentlh she said she "doesnt want to do anything sexual at home" probably cause she lives with her mom, but still when we kiss, goes into making out, and she starta grabbing my dick, so of course i go for her tits.
And now 2 weeks later she says she hates me and our friendship is over cause she feels abused and manipulated. She even linked me a "what is sexual abuse" webpage and said she could report me.
>2011 >be 19 >gf is 17 >parents gone out of town for the weekend and she comes over >make out, etc. we've never had sex at this point though >hand up her shirt, she enjoys it >she feels up dick >start to take her shirt off >she doesn't resist or anything >she takes off my pants and proceeds with blowjob >take her pants off and eat her out >we still don't have sex, just finish from oral >she leaves a couple hours later after we eat a pizza and watch How I Met Your Mother >calls me later that night crying and accusing me of forcing her blow me >lolwut.jpg >she tells her parents I tried to rape her >cops come to my door the next morning >woopwoop to the station >have to fill out witness report and get questioned (super embarrassing process mind you) >go to court a couple months later >explain my case thoroughly >judge asks "at any point did she offer you her consent" >I state she never directly said yes, however she initiated in taking it past making out >her lawyer objects and says that she clearly stated no towards me removing her clothing >this is bs but I can't prove it >judge favors her due to that simple aspect, but he lets me off with a pretty small punishment >lucky she wasn't a minor (by state) >have 12 months probation with 300 hours of CS
You should have lied and gotten a better lawyer. This is what happens when you are cheap/poor fag. If I was a nigger I would be a felon by now. Because I am white and not a nigger. I have no record. L2 lawyer up properly bro.
>>583689638 >Am I a rapist? no, if you are in america you are potentially fucked if she goes to the police, especially since as she (appears to be) the drugs/free sex/tatoos/piercing/lie about being raped type. >Did I do anything wrong? yes, you beta'd out the following day. If you know weed, you are completely aware. It is because you became a pussy, you should have just said "you were good last night, let's go get breakfast." >IF she wanted to press charges, would i be a rapist for starting it? In america, you are fucked, just the accusation will fuck up your life for many years. In saner countries she has to provide evidence.
>>583689638 my advice man, is to get her to meet in person. tell her that the fact that she didn't mean to have sex without is heartbreaking, because you think you might love her. probably she will just feel too sorry for you to press charges.
>>583693331 Lol, what do you want? This is our system. If I had gotten a public defender in my last case or a shitty lawyer. I would have had to worn ankle bracelet for 6-12 months. Paid over a thousand dollars for it. Paid court fees. And have a record. Instead I get Johnnie Cochran of my court house. I get to hear how my charge is invalid because I broke no actual law(lol). Than the prosecutor was a cunt and instead of dropping it. Held out for a gay plea bargain where I settled for a civil thing to avoid a possible raping. Point being, you pay. You are innocent. You poor, your a nigger in prison.
>>583692942 the astounding thing is that you clearly don't even see that you victimized her. you never even asked if she wanted the sexual encounter. how was she to answer yes or no? further more, you didn't even ask after the fact if she still consented.
you raped her without prior consent or post rape consent. the poor girl probably doesn't even know what damage you did to her.
i image you had some sort of man judge, because he didn't give you prison time.
>>583694759 my comment wasn't for op but to answer your question: no. you are patriarchy. it is impossible to be raped by a woman. op is in a position of dominance and rape culture forced her to fear saying no to him. if she doesn't consent both before the sexual exchange and after, then op has committed rape.
>>583695189 Cuddling means initiation of sexual intercourse? Lol >>583695129 OP hasnt committed rape, she clearly consented to intercourse. There is no way a person can have sex with someone and "think" it was a dream, no fucking way. You are a complete fuckwit.
>>583695404 Adding to that, if someone is not "half asleep" then she cannot say she didnt consent. We are in a world where females can say they were raped if they had consented sex for years with the same partner because their partner cooked their bacon wrong
>>583695404 she doesn't consent after the fact. so he obviously did rape. furthermore she was victimized while on a mind altering drug. op clearly stated she felt comfortable sleeping over because he had resisted raping her the previous time. he provided her a false sense of safety and struck when she was sleeping.
>>583695792 How can you say she was victimized while on a mind altering drug when he was on the same drug? lol. Im all for females having equal rights because its deserved.. but this is completely abuse of being a female.
>>583695709 She couldnt have been asleep through all of that if she remembers it or "thought it was a dream"
>>583689638 Op, it's not rape but the world is full of retards. Text her:
>you were smiling and made it clear you were enjoying it >you were clearly coherent >so it pisses me off when sluts like you cop out and pretend nothing happened so you don't have to come to terms that you're a slut
This will cover you legally. She will undoubtedly message you some incriminating evidence against her back.
>>583696075 People remember parts of their dreams. It sounds like she remembers the whole thing. She couldnt have been asleep. If she was asleep im sure he would have figured it out if he kissed her....
>>583689638 ofc she remembers what happened, the fact that you used a condom shows that you guys were awake...
i had the same thing once but at least we stopped just before we had sex. this girl got really pissed at me after because 'she didnt want it'. but we did make out for a long time while in her bed together... girls tend to forget the difference between shame for fucking you and wanting to fuck you at that time
just dont talk to her again because your relationship with her is fucked anyway. i almost never talk to his friend anymore because it is still awkward.
you got lucky, one time sex is way better than having a whorefriend like that anyway
>>583696509 Smiling and asleep DURING sex? Okay man. If she was asleep im sure he would have noticed it as he kissed her. If he noticed it and is lying and she was dead asleep then im sure it was rape, but going off of what hes saying he didnt rape.
>>583696597 Exactly, if she was in Stage 3 - REM sleep she would have been "paralyzed" where the bodies muscles tense up to stop people acting out their dreams. If she was in the earlier stages of sleep then she would have woken up due to it being a "light" sleep stage.
Bitch please you gotta be pretty heavily drugged for not wake up to someone fucking you. Regret it all you might but your drunk actions are still your decisions and it's not rape when you haven't clearly stated that you don't want it. As other anons have said,OP, you fucked up when you decided to text to her about that, no one is gonna believe your story if she decides to accuse you of rape.
>>583696515 he did rape. she doesn't consent. she though she was having a nightmare. he penetrated her most sacred of places and used her body to relieve his sick desires. how anyone would want to do that to a sleeping intoxicated powerless young woman is beyond me.
she let u fuck her but now she's pretending she didn't. be careful it sounds like she wants her 'rape card' and wants to run around whining about how she was raped. don't let her. say she let you and she knows it.
If a heterosexual women who is not related to you willingly decides to sleep with you in your bed, she is telling you to sex her. She was probly laying there waiting for it for a long ass time and thought you were a retard for actually just going to sleep to begin with.
Thus far seems shes not in a "omg he raped me" kind of mindset but rather feels bad for swinging open her hatch and letting you plow her. I'm guessing she has a boyfriend or some omega on standby that she was considering promoting to "my new boyfriend Ill use till I get something better," and this threw a wrench in the works. For fuck sake it wasnt even alcohol it was weed lol, you really think she didnt notice she was HAVING SEX with you cause she smoked week 3 hours prior? Bitch please.
This is the pathetic and terrifying new fate men in this country have to face now, having a girl come over to your house and party and later engage in consensual sex in your own bed has gone from an achievement to be happy about to a moral dilemma and fear of prosecution.
You didn't do anything wrong. Morally. Legally she can press charges and you will be in jail immediately. Double standards when it comes to this shit. Apparently even after you've fucked a girl, if the next morning she thought it was a bad idea, she can legally claim it as rape. 'tis a fucked up world we live in This girl seems alright though. She may be pissed, but in the small amount of info I have on her, she'll forget it
>>583697075 Excuse me but you keep calling this person a he and the other one a her without asking them what they identify as. You're disrespectful kind is a disgrace to humanity and you should be ashamed you neanderthal.
>>583697679 even if she decided she doesn't wanna press charges, it was sex without consent. if only there was some sort of mathematical equation that could illustrate the meaning of rape..... oh wait...>>583697608
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