discuss /b/ , is lolicon safe in europe?

>>575140874
fuck england then, i'm no pedo but if this guy was just faping to cartoons of kids and not actually hurting anyone i don't think it's that bad, even didn't use actuall CP...and they ruined his life anyway.

I like how they had to point out he was jobless. Fuck the media.

>>575140874
I hope it isn't, all fans of loli are fucked in the head. You're basically pedos.

All of /b/ is fucked now

>>575140874
In germany it is.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fan-japanese-anime-makes-british-4470102

thats the source

>>575140874
looks like satire

>>575140874
UK is not europe.
they don't want to be in EU and we don't want them.

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>>575140874
>A jobless fan of Japanese animation

Is there any other kind?

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God save the loli

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>>575140874
ha, i love how basically the whole british government has been implicated in elaborate pedophile networks, yet the media attention still goes to poor saps like this. what a fucking world.

>>575142459

But it isnt.

Muh freedoms

>>575142157
I Agree wanking over pictures of draw little girls is fucked . should all be put down

>>575142757

Holy shit.

/r/ moar loli queen. Also anyone know the Queen's address? I wanna send this to her.

>>575142809
then case closed, everyones fucked. good job europe

Wtf cartoons?

Why are there no riots in the streets?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors

Many anime series contain partial nudity of persons under 18 so by there logic we should arrest everyone for watching anime. The day of reckoning is upon us weebs

Its a drawing, its not harming anybody. There is no crime. Wtf ois wrong with this world. Holy shit

A victimless crime, just let the pedo wack it to cartoons instead of real kids or molesting someone.

>>575142753
Top kek

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It is in California. :^)

and it was just 288 images, even 1 manga have more or less that quantity.

I think the idea that these characters are children is basically the whole reason this shit happens.
Personally, I think if these characters were labelled as, say, baby-faced adults?
I don't think things would be the same.

Is this on /a/ if it is I can imagine their rage

>>575140874
probably it is better to do the real thing if you gonna go to jail

>>575145234
see >>575143716
We just had that a while back with Canada and the crying wasn't that bad even if it's full on bullshit.

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>>575145118
If they were labeled "baby-faced adults", my fap experience wouldn't be the same.

>>575142402
Von der Leyen hats verboten

I plan on living in Sweden and apparently that shit's illegal there and I'm kinda mad.

>>575145734
Der Besitz von Darstellungen, die ein rein fiktives, nicht wirklichkeitsnahes Geschehen wiedergeben (vgl. § 184b Abs. 4 StGB), ist dagegen nicht rechtswidrig.[4]

>>575145520

Tru, point taken.

now you wait until "revenge"/amateur porn starts jailing innocent people. Viewing average hentai would feel like entering the deep web

>>575145987
Damit sind Nekos, Furries und Strichmännchen gemein.

Thought crimes, coming soon to your town and government

>>575143148
Because nobody gives a shit about drawings. You're a minority, therefore you're easy to marginalize because nobody believes it'll be extended to include something they think is harmless.

>>575145118
How about we just consider them drawings? Not children, not baby-faced adults, just drawings?

>>575143716

2012 Missouri case

In October 2012, after being reported August 2011 by his wife, a 36 year old man named Christian Bee in Monett, Missouri entered a plea bargain to "possession of cartoons depicting child pornography", with the US attorney's office for the Western District of Missouri recommending a 3 year prison sentence without parole. The office in conjunction with the Southwest Missouri Cyber Crimes Task Force argued that the "Incest Comics" on Bee's computer "clearly lack any literary, artistic, political or scientific value"

What the FUCK?!

>>575146952
Bingo

How did this dude even get caught? Anytime I see loli on here it's gone from the web almost instantly.

>>575146278
Habe mich ein bisschen eingelesen und du hast wohl recht aber so ganz eindeutig ist es auch nicht. Müsste man wohl mal durchklagen. Idiotisches Gesetz mit klassisch dummer Formulierung.

>>575140874
No. And likely won't be safe anywhere besides Japan soon enough.

Also the judge is a prick.

Judge Tony Briggs said the pictures were manufactured, stylised, and “repulsive” to varying degrees.

“This is material that clearly society and the public can well do without. Its danger is that it obviously portrays sexual activity with children, and the more it’s portrayed, the more the ill-disposed may think it’s acceptable.”

>>575147342
lol thats insane, what a way to fuck someone's life

>>575146952

Tell that to the authorities.

Also, as told in the newspaper :

"Despite being cartoons, they were classified as prohibited images as they depicted young girls, some in school uniforms, some exposing themselves or taking part in sexual activity."

>some in school uniforms

>>575142795
totally agree there just a bunch of hypocrites

>>575147342
So under that argument all porn should be a criminal offense.

>>575147569
Why don't we offer some sort of treatment to the 'ill-disposed' then. Paedophilia is, in essence, a mental illness.

Then again so was being gay a hundred years ago.

The legality of digital images in general is basically stupid:
>Every picture is just made out of 0s and 1s
>Programs can interpret colors out of them using file formats.
>If Microsoft Photo Viewer can interpret illegal content out of "00100101011" those number row must be illegal
>If Those number row is illegal, "11011010100" must be illegal too if you can write an interpreter resulting in the same image as before.
>Therefore all number rows must be illegal, because a program on the world can create illegal shit out of it.

Lawyers still havn't found a solution

>>575147484
Lass es einfach nicht drauf ankommen. Irgendwo war mal ein Artikel über jemanden hier, der in den Bau musste für Loli.

>loli is hard to find
>doujin-moe fakku g.e-hentai etc

>>575140874

LOL only 288 images and 99 gifs ?

thats barely even pocket porn

>>575148457
>loli is hard to find
>google

>>575148172
also "11011010100" wont be illegal if the interpreter made a legal image out of it.

So digital files have human rights? Great logic, Brits.

Loli is dumb as fuck anyway.

>Child pornography is illegal and bad!
>Drawn child pornography is perfectly fine!

>>575143716
>Sweeden
>... an expert on child pornography ...
wut?
how do you become that?

>>575148457
Do people seriously just download this shit and not walk around with fear of being V&

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>>575148172

Well yeah but there may be a victim with some images. A cartoon is a cartoon.

>>575148820

You can get arrested for having drugs on your person.

Doesn't mean that drugs have "human rights", ya dings.

What he had was designated as illegal. Human rights have nothing to do with it.

>>575149031
by not living in shit countries you can do that yea

>>575147403
>How did this dude even get caught?

I'm interested in this.

Morals are immoral by my moral view if you get my jist

>>575148826

also what is considered illegal has changed drastically through the ages

go back 300 years and you could get married and start having sex at 11-12ish, and it was just natural

go back even further and its still different in different eras

whos to say whats going to be legal or illegal 200 years from now

>>575149046
I'm not defending pedophiles. I'm calling out a broken law system

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Uh, no? Fuck the UK nanny state, your interpretation of democracy sucks shit you scardey cat tea drinking frilly shirt faggots?

>>575141841
>fan of japanese anime
>implying he had any life to ruin

>>575149067
Why were drawn images designated as illegal? Where's the logic? Nothing about this makes any sense.

>>575149357
http://www.news.com.au/news/boy-arrested-for-farting-in-class/story-fna7dq6e-1111118133886

>America
>Free

>>575142021
Yep.

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The UK allows muslims to rape 11 year old girls, but prosecutes people for drawn cartoons.

Vote UKIP and get those Labour fanatics out of office.

>>575142157
So what if they are pedos? You may be hetero, shame on you! I think they shouldn't put people in prison for victimless crimes, full stop.

>>575141841
>likes anime
>has a life to ruin
kek

>>575148826
>child pornography: a child got fucked for it
>loli: somebody drew something.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29692685

>>575142459
Isnt. Made the national news in my country.

>>575143148
>Why are there no riots in the streets?
Because most people aren't fucking sick in the head and agrees that pedos should be put down

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>>575149731
>Voting for UKIP

working class scum

>>575149751
/thread

>>575149279
maybe his internet company monitors everything. I dont know how did he get caught

>>575149731
>The UK allows muslims to rape 11 year old girls,
Nope.

>Vote UKIP and get those Labour fanatics out of office.
They aren't in office. The Tories are.
All in all you really fucked up that post, anon.

>>575149494

thats different

the kid was being an asshole

im all up for the police locking up assholes no mater the age

all they were doing was showing him what was instore for his future , courtrooms and arrest records

>>575149827
Reported to GCHQ, NSA, MI6, KGB

>>575145743
I hope you get SÄPO'd

>>575147342
Turned in by his own goddamn wife. Jailed for three years for looking at drawings. Fuck.

The Miller Test for obscene material is absolute bullshit, by the way. The general public is going to consider anything most of them don't like as obscene. You can't tell me there's no artistic value in those drawings just because they depict something you don't like

>>575150202
As far as I gather ISP's do log what you do, but 99.99% of the time they don't give a shit.

It's like DCMA requests - they only do something when someone asks them to.

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>>575150243
>They aren't in office. The Tories are.
>All in all you really fucked up that post, anon.
Labour will be taking power in 2015, Torys are essentially a minority government in power anyway. Scotland is infested with Labour.

Red Ed Milliband wants to turn the UK into a 3rd world paradise full of shitskins and muslims.

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>>575150248
>Kid does a completely natural (and impossible to prevent) body function
>arrest him for it

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what about this kind of art? do you get arrested by this too? lol

>>575150615
>Scotland is infested with Labour.

Not after the last fuckups.

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>>575150319
Leggo?

>>575150385
mgtow ftw

>>575150743
is that the short version of game of thrones?

Does anyone wonder why the most grotesque rekt videos of actual people are perfectly legal but loli hentai isn't?

I know this going to make be sound like I'm wearing a serrated fedora but modern morality is a complete and total farce.

I bet most Biritish people on B are at Teesside

>>575140874
So if I draw a picture of a naked stick figure I'd get arrested in the UK?

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>>575150865
Why do you think Scotland voted to continue to be slaves to the English? Labour voters. Dumbasses.
Clean me up cuckold boy, clean me up.

The UK nanny state is impressive, Airstrip One has become a reality.

>>575145743

Are you sure? I live in Sweden and know lots of people who are into this kinda thing. They're open about it.

>>575151247
Actually no Mohammad, SNP had no concrete argument. That's why we chose to keep taking English money.

We're getting Devomax anyway, so we won in the end.

>>575151008
Serrated electric fedora

>>575149028
kek, they've done extensive research
>>575149731
can I Muslim now?

>>575150649

no the kid was go around messing with peoples computers and shit, and not just passing gas but going up to them and farting on people.

i had a friend in middle school who could inhale air through his butt hole and fart whenever he wanted on command, annoyed the piss out of me

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Now listen here newfaggots, to a solution to your woes.

What ya'll ought be doing is making one of them there threads where you fill it up with every goddamn image of loli and CP you can think of, then somebody drops it off in the judge, prosecutors, defense attorney, whatever nigger from the house of lords was there, and the jury's mailboxes.

If yall britbongs had any sense of fun bout ya you would already be on this.

Yall bonggas cant stop them thar laws, but yall can still troll o lo lo lo.

Best wishes from murrica, where cartoon CP is legal in most states as of right now

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>>575151569
>child does childish things
>put the police on him

>America
>Free

There was literally no victim. Not one. What the fuck?

>>575143054
1 Buckingham Palace.
London England
32420

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>>575151517
>We're getting Devomax anyway, so we won in the end.
You honestly believe that, muahahahahahahh.
That the great thing about a slave, he will miss the master's whip if he stops.

Already Westminster wants to exclude Scottish MP's from English only issue votes. UKIP is pushing for that pretty hard, and its looking like the Torys may go along with it.

>>575140874
Looks like I have to dump The Simpson's joke folder.

>>575140874
GUYS

GUYS

GUYS.....

If you want to protest just start drawing a bunch of baby porn.

The whole idea behind something like child porn being illegal is the fact of if taking advantage of an innocent child, but the law forgets that, or at least here.

Its not illegal to desire to have sex with a child any more then it is to desire to murder someone. I could be thinking of a child being raped in my mind right now and it would and should be ok because its my fucking thoughts. Until the line is crossed where someone actually fucks a child or or views or takes part in anything that takes advantage of a child sexually then they've done nothing wrong.

who the fuck is the law protecting this scenario?

I don't agree with this mans actions but I'll stand up for his right to do them!

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>>575146598
this. Also where do they draw the line? Does quality matter? is my shitty doodle illegal too?

>>575151802

and why not ?

the school systems sure arent doing a damn thing about disruptive kids

hell they dont do a damn thing at all

just think of it , since they have to call the police to do their job for them

kids need to learn to not be douchebags early on or they become douchebags for the rest of their life

>>575152074
>Already Westminster wants to exclude Scottish MP's from English only issue votes

And that's fine. We already fucked you over with tuition fees.

It's quite simple Abdul. We either get all the powers, or we leave with all the fishing water and oil fields.

>>575142795
This. Exactly.

In October 2010, 33-year-old Idaho man Steven Kutzner entered into a plea agreement concerning images of child characters from the American animated television show The Simpsons engaged in sexual acts.[69][70] In January 2011, Kutzner was sentenced to serve 15 months in federal prison for downloading, receiving, and viewing sexually explicit images of actual children for at least eight years

wtf

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>>575152334
Thanks for confirming America is more of a police state than UK.

>>575151583
This

>>575152273
MODS

>>575152161
>Its not illegal to desire to have sex with a child any more then it is to desire to murder someone.
It's starting to be that way. Go tell your therapist you're a pedo and you'll be put on the sex offender list.

>>575152161
>>575152273
calling hivemind on myself

>>575152569
How the hell does 4chan not get shut down then, there are R34 threads all the damn time.

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>>575151583

is this really how americunts talk to one another?

Fucking god save the queen

time to spam loli on work safe euro websites

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FUCK THIS GAY EARTH, I'M QUITTING THE INTERNET.
ITS JUST NOT WORTH IT ANYMORE.

Eventually you will get arrested for posting this:

(.) (.) ====)

>>575153756
>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>575142157
Brainwashed idiot detected. Learn to think for yourself.

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>>575140874
And rape porn is legal?!
I enjoy some loli from time to time, and I know that it's probably not normal, but who cares. Especially if lolis are depicted as sexually active human beings.
Hell I don't know what I would do if a 12 year old girl wanted to have sex with me. So I'm probably a pedo. But the point is: No 12-year-old does such a thing!
So as long as you don't force yourself on someone (doesn't matter which age) there shouldn't be a problem.
I find rape porn much more dangerous, but maybe that's just my opinion, because I like loli and I don't like rape porn.

>>575155116
Thought crimes shouldn't exist, full stop.

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Y'all are fucked nao

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>>575155116
True that!

>>575155382
kek

>>575155382
how do I whip hard drve

>>575155382
Jokes on you. Age of consent is 16 here.

cp is illegal because it hurt kids and affects their mind
loli is images from the imagination of some guy or girl that isnt created by hurting any living child
the first and second are now in the eyes of the law they're both different
if fake children is illegal all kinds of things should be like any shooter at all, all games where you do llegal acts no matter how minor the offense, porn with themes like rape and snuff, its fake but that doesn't matter.

>>575155373
>>575155116
This.

Rape (fantasy) porn is fine because the participants are consenting adults. Children can't consent, but we're not even talking about children. These are just pixels; not children. Pixels which were created without harming a child. Pixels which will lead to the harming of children just as much as murder in video games results in the murder of 3D humans **which is not at all**.

>>575152569
fuck this is crazy wtf

what are eu laws on this right now guys?

>>575156040
you stole my laughs, no kek achieved...

>>575156040
Sexually explicit depictions of a minor and age of consent are to different things.

>>575156040
Where's that?

>>575149935
is someone who has the impulse to have sex with someone, but doesn't, a rapist?
is someone that looks at pictures of non real child like humanoids a pedophile? you seem to think so.

You're countries are seriously taking away all the rights you have, you seriously cant even draw that now, and your cuntry is so brainwashed they just immediately say pedos should be shot, but you cant even do that because guns are banned too.

i swear you are turning into the new 'mericas

>>575142021
Maybe you should get a job.

>>575156825
The definition of “minor” depends on the age of consent.

>>575157218
nope

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>>575142459
A lot of British news looks like satire...

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>>575156010
Use the device in related pic.

>>575155116
yes.

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>>575156927
New England

Lolicon has been 'illegal' for years in Britain. Because a lot of it was clearly cartoon filters and tracings of real photos so to stop any ambiguation they just implemented it under the same rule as cp.

Before Amerifats get too excited in picking our flaws lets not forget you live of cops shooting 7 year old girls in the head.

>mfw all these thought crimes
>mfw pedophilia isn't illegal, only child molestation
>britbongs, amerifats and ausfalians won't say shit because some soccer mom will be screaming about the CHILLUNS
>these niggers take plea bargains and set precedents for more of this bullshit
>distinguished judges have ruined a mans entire life over pixels

I miss the days when I thought adults had their shit together.

>>575157218
>be me
>murica, Iowa
>could fuck all the 16 year olds I want if I so desired
>take picture of hypothetical sex partner naked
>"JAIL MOTHERFUCKER"

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This can't be real, but if it actually is, then it shouldn't be.

>>575157920
Explain the 7 year old being shot please

>>575157218
>>575157515
In the UK, you can have sex at 16, but it is against the law to possess computer-generated images depicting under-18s

>>575157920
>assuming this happens everywhere in america

>>575157924
That's the problem. You'll never see a mass movement like the gay one recently because anyone who vocally supported it would be labeled a pedophile and have their life ruined by white knights.

>>575157590
wtf
please, humanity, off yourself finally

>>575157515
>yfw Mexicos age of consent is 12 years old

>humanity
It's just the fucking brits, relax and feel bad for them.

>>575158669
true

>>575140874
Why don't you faggots fight back?

>>575150248
When you're a dick, everyone is an asshole.

>>575159250
see>>575158669

>>575158669
Yup. Let's also make it illegal to rub your balls and sniff your hand. Who's going to stand up against that?

>>575158902

You haven't been paying attention have you?

READ:

>>575143716

>>575158902
I fear, it's not only them brits. There are also the French, Amis, Aussies and a lot of other places with truly incompetent govmnts

>>575147342
Fuck, I draw lolicon maybe I should stop then

>>575153115
honeypot? moot provides feds with ips and logs

>>575159982
fuck I forgot this 4chan, god damn see ya in 3 days then

Have you been paying attention? Fucking nigger. Read the post quoted and then kill your parents for making such a dumb faggot.

>>575140874
>illegal cartoons.
Jesus what a Fucking stupid country

>>575140874
>is lolicon safe in europe?

this shouldn't really come as a shock, it's been outright illegal in the rest of the commonwealth for a while

it's pretty shaky in the us as well

From Wikipedia, reference UK's stance on loli:

>[...] as well as any adults where the "predominant impression conveyed" is of a person under the age of 18

Okay. So you can't even have a consenting adult fulfil a fantasy by dressing/speaking in a certain way, perhaps wearing make-up to assist with the fantasy. **Not that I'd want that 3DPD crap.**

You're pretty fucked (no pun intended) if you're a young-looking, yet adult, individual who wants to make a porno; because some may consider you to be conveying the impression that you are younger than 18, all involved would get v&.

There is no other way to describe this than "thought crime".

What will they do next? Vary the age of consent based upon how old someone appears?

Freedom-speaks.com
Cp fake ad

>Drawing
>Illegal

What the fuck, how does this make any sense? It's drawn so there are no actual people under the age of consent being fucked. They are DRAWINGS. There are no victims.

This species is so fucking stupid. If you personally don't like loli or whatever else, that doesn't mean it should be illegal.

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>>575140874
>>575140874
>>575140874
Glad we declared independence from that miserable country.

>>575150202
All Internet traffic is monitored, and all ISPs maintain records of what people in Bong have looked at in the past year.

>>575160996
Already illegal in Australia to have Porn with flat-chested adults because they "look too childish" or some shit.

>>575161219
I'll give them the cars because it's a fucking car commercial, but they didn't even get the flag for that time right.

>>575160996
probably

>>575160996
We are fucked. How can we change this, when public opinion and even the "democracy" we live in are against us? How can we shape the world we desire for our children and grandchildren?

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If this shit started happening in The US I would probably just go on a rampage till I got shot down.

Pic related.

>>575157590
Did you know that at one point, people were seriously suggesting that the UK should ban pointed knives? This place is hilarious sometimes.

>>575161447
Look up "Operation Titstorm" for more info on this

It's the same logic that would want to ban action movies because they kill people and I enjoy watching it.

Double standards ftw. I wonder how books written about little girls having sex would be perceived?

>>575157125
you too :)

My fear is that it'll soon be treated like recreational drugs are in the U.S., with mass witch hunts and mandatory jail time for possession. And because the prison system here is a fucking business you'll never see it change.

>>575140874
Mixed feelings, on one hand "punishment for cartoons" seems silly. On the other hand, the article states he won't actually go to jail if he doesn't do anything else illegal for the next 9 months. I mean who wouldn't like that? "Yeah she was 17 when I fucked her... but I promise I won't fuck another 17 year old again" "Ok that's good enough for us!

>>575162085
However, that's more reasonable than pixel crimes.

>>575149731
I just whacked myself in the balls.
Vote UKIP and this wont happen.

>>575162595
Well... his face is on the national news for starters, who knows what else is going on like being on an offenders list or something. Poor fella.

>>575147484
Gesetze werden immer so geschrieben das platz zur Interpretation bleibt.
Ein Richter kann es so auslegen, der andere halt auf seiner weise.
Bescheuert.

>>575145743
Its not illegal you retard. How about you actually educate urself before coming to a superior country

>>575161514
You can see that there are not 50 stars. Looks like probably 13

>>575145743
where u from?

>>575162595
But his name is mud now. Although this wasn't the case in this instance, imagine the hypothetical situation of having that slammed on you whilst you're still in education. You finish up with your education, keep your nose clean, time to look for a job. Additional to how daunting that already is for many, now you have this conviction which you'll need to carry around with you for the rest of your life (?).

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>>575140874
Holy fuck, that's near here I live!

Cya /b/

>>575162908
Yeah, he's fucked.

Now I'm wondering if furry will count as bestiality in this country.

>>575145743
>>575163201

>Any images or videos that depict children in a pornographic context are to be considered child pornography in Sweden, even if they are drawings. A "child" is defined as a "person" who is either under the age of 18 or who has not passed puberty.
> [...]
> On 15 June 2012, the Supreme Court found him not guilty. They decided that the images were not realistic and could not be mistaken for real children [...]

>>575163763
In the UK:
>The new law however covered images whether or not they are realistic.

Gotta wait for someone to test it out, I guess.

>>575163763
Off topic but funny. Beastiality porn is totally legal in the states, as is beastiality itself in some places, unless the porn is loli beastiality then look out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilia_and_the_law_in_the_United_States#Zoophilic_pornography_in_the_USA

>>575164303
People over 18 who have not yet passed puberty? WTF did they smoke when passing that law

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>>575142157
>this fucking guy

>>575164303
Exactly. That case proves that you cant be sentenced for having loli on your comp as its not "realistic" IE fucking drawn pictures. As i said: Legal.

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>mfw I still have jumble family somewhere

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>>575164540
Yeah, great - I guess we wait until someone annoys the police, and see what happens?

>>575164684
Yeah, I heard the act itself is still legal in some states. Poor old Mister Hands.

>>575142795
>>575147781
>>575152541

Wait what? Show.

>>575165223
Google it you useless shitstain.

>>575142157
/thread

>>575165223
Don't you follow the news?
I think the last one was just a few months ago.

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>>575140874
Awesome
Fuck Lollicon. It's the dreg of basment dwelling autists.

>>575165183
Yeah. Let's roll for who will sacrifice themselves.

>>575165651
I bet my basement is nicer than your apartment.

>>575140874
Illegal in Australia

>>575140874

Nah that's cool. Sand niggers are literally ass raping the country, but we've served justice to a NEET fapping to drawings. Un fucking real.

I am not delusional about the moral group that all pedophiles trample over by jerking off to lolis. I am fully aware of the concern that people have, and I fully understand the disgust of realizing there are people who jerk off to little kid drawings. I get it. What I don't understand is who the fuck did this guy hurt, how did he hinder the government or the country, who the fuck was inconvenienced by this guy jerking off inside his own room/basement?

Fucking shoot me now.

>>575165651
And we might find it inconceivable that you can be attracted to whatever you fap to, but what does it fucking matter?

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>>575165843
and I care?
It's still your moms basement.

>>575143042
i'm going to masturbate thinking about your kids.
and if you don't have any, i'll masturbate to the kids you haven't had yet.

p.s. it isn't illegal to jerk off to your kids so there isn't a damn thing you can do

No, I wish to see all paedophiles jailed.

>>575165223
Here you are, lazy faggot:
http://www.businessinsider.com/british-politician-pedophile-coverup-2014-7
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tory-mp-warned-of-powerful-paedophile-ring-30-years-ago-8507780.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/07/a-big-political-cover-up-of-1980s-pedophile-ring-in-u-k-parliament/
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/green-party-leader-trittin-admits-to-approving-document-on-pedophilia-a-922442.html
And this was just 60 seconds of research.

>>575166197
It is unsafe because you wish it to be? Cool.

>>575166197
someone was buttraped by uncle randy

ITT: pedos defending pedos

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>>575166082
It doesn't matter.
Especially since your all degenerate Potato's
Who the fuck cares what a retard who likes anime kiddy porn says?
No one thats who!

>>575166197
because the rights of the drawn children. seriously, think int the imaginary children.

Be careful what you draw, and if you suck at it, don't even try.
Who can prove that stick figure you drew was of age?

>>575149394
You can't fap to loli or spend your days on the internet in jail, anon. THey did, in fact, ruin his life.

>>575142021
I actually know this guy. He wasn't jobless, he ran a few events at a club in my town.

>>575166907
But if they're imaginary, and only exist in drawings, they're doing exactly what they were meant to, right?

>>575152406

you wont leave, scots are the scum of the earth and they crave english domination like a cuckold craves eating nigger jizz out of his wife's cunt

>>575166676
Maybe.
But perhaps he is just a parent, they all scream "cut the dick off" without thinking, just as if they were feminazis.

I for my part would wish all the pedos to get rid of their horrible sexual preference/deviance/whatefer it may be.

Friend of mine is in jail because he fiddled his daugter. Stupid fuck. But he needs to be kept away from kids.

We should help them live "normal" lives instead of making them hide their real selves.

We should be like "Are you feeling like going to the play ground again? Come on, lets play chess instead" instread of "KILL FIRE RAPE BY BUBBA"

Stupids gonna stupid.

>>575140874

lolicon is a plague btw
and you're a faggot

288 and 99... Jesus if they found my computer im so fucked

>>575167612
>normal lives
>sex with children
I agree, they need all the help they can get, they keep reporting them

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>>575157914
Spain: Age of Consent = 13

>>575166729
Way to side-step the question.
How about if someone you consider to be relatively infallible finds it inconceivable that you can be attracted to whatever you fap to? Will that affect your attraction or desires? Why would it fucking matter what they think? How can someone's opinion affect whether or not you're attracted to something? Do you think sexual attraction is something affected by such things?

>>575167914
Over 7k total

>>575168101
Not exactly, they can still report you if the parents disagree until 16, and they're planing to raise it anyway
> Mu-muh freedoms

>>575167612
it's not gonna happen. pedos have been around since the beginning. you might as well get used to it. they are literally everywhere.

you idiots think child molestation is so utterly awful. before the ad homini fly, researchers can't even prove that gentle sexual exploration with a child causes any kind of damage, despite what you moralfags insist. you're the ones damaging kids, not us. besides, anyone who hurts a kid isn't a pedo, but someone horrible, regardless of what they call themselves. you should really stop and think instead of getting all emotional about everything

>>575167612
This. If you give it more than a cursory thought, the demonizing of pedos only makes them more dangerous to children. What if we still treated people with [insert mental disorder] like they were possessed/evil/bad ju ju?

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>>575140874
>only had 400 images/gifs
>pic related
some dude in a thread posted that.
He has more loli porn than i have pictures of everything on my hard drive.

>>575152273
MODS MODS MODS

>>575168914
also this. you label us as subhuman child rapists, what do you think we'll become? your worst nightmares will realize themselves when serious abuse keep growing more common even as laws get harsher. and whose fault will that be?

>tfw people still think pedophilia = child sexual abuse

>>575168101
>>575168678
Nope, before it was really 13 without any kind of bullshits. At most her parents would denounce you and that wouldn't go anywhere. Now it's 16.

Thanks conservatives.

>>575169138
You have less than 73 gigs taken up on your hard drive? Hell, I have 1.5tb taken up, and I'm not even sure what it all is.

>>575166729
According to kinsey (Which is of course, somewhat dated research.) Sexual attraction can be molded by social and societal factors. There is of course. A certain population which may very well be born with their ingrained preference; but paraphilias tend to be formed by experience and events as one develops through adolescence.

Of course none of this changes the fact that society on the whole views your fetish as an abhorred travesty even worse then coprophagia.

In summation- Only lolli tards defend lolli or give two shits about it. Everyone hates you and wishes you were castrated.

>>575169927
i have less than 73gigs of pictures/gifs and webms on my hard drive.

>>575157920
>Ignore our blatant violations of human rights because it's worse somewhere else

>>575168678
>>575169742
that sounds like a wide open gate to extort money.
Pay or get sued

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>>575166729
Edge-king right here. Check out that sickeningly deformed man he's posted for absolutely no reason. Look at that infuriating text blob he's conjured up; doesn't it make you upset? Keep an eye on this one, he means serious business.

so what did I learn today. I could legally fuck a 14-year old. If i take a picture of the sex up until the age of 18, i get arrested and raped by blacks for life. god, don't you just love justice, anons?

>>575170035
Ah, ok - I was confused for a second there.

>>575169742
Really? I should have fucked those 13 yo when I had the chance...

We get to suck babies with a vacuum but we can't even have older ones sucking on ours.

>>575159556

I would.

>>575147342
Apparently he plead out to avoid being prosecuted for the actual child pornography he had. Which seems to be the case with all of the recent convictions in the U.S. None of them solely concern Chinese Comics.

>>575169138

He's just passionate about it

>>575170208
But as I said the sue won't get anywhere. This is Spain, not America. Here being sued is "Aham, fuck you" and if you really didn't do shit nothing will happen.

Fucking with a 13 year old was legal, the only reason her parents could decide to sue you was because they thought otherwise (almost no one knew the actual legal age). But the law is the law (or rather, was) and the only thing they were going to achieve is wasting a shitload of money in useless shit (the winner doesn't pay anything) without you getting in any trouble - here we don't put people into black lists for blank accusations.

So nope. They couldn't do shit. Sueing you was only detrimental for them.

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>>575140874
This makes me so happy. Now all we need to do is round them up for judgement and kill them. Pedophiles have no right to exist.

>>575165930
Everything is illegal in Australia

>>575156229
>cp is illegal because it hurt kids and affects their mind
I have a book called Erotic Victorian Photography. It was printed in England shortly before Al Gore invented the Internet. It contains photographs of nude prepubescent girls. The kids who were photographed might have been harmed or affected (although I highly suspect that they were much more harmed and effected by their poverty) and yet they all died before your parents were born.

>>575150903
My eggo

>>575171043

That makes no fucking sense. The DA would offer him a plea if they didn't have a 100 percent case against him. Seeing as his crime turned out be possession of shit deemed illegal in dumbfuckistan there's no way he'd be able to spin that shit around, especially, if you consider the fact his own fucking wife sold him the fuck out. If he had any real cp he'd do at least a dime.

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>>575169138

>>575171708
>C:Users\Shadow
lel

>>575171708

That's brave anon. Considering where I live I deleted my entire 4chan folder. No more waifus or reaction images. I don't fucking know what the people of republic of normal people going to deem as loli.

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>>575171415
>memegenerator
unerage faggot

>>575171576
Fucken aye.

It sucks because both political parties in our shitty two party system are as corrupt and incompetent as each other.

>both parties rack up monstrous debt
>sell public utilities and transport to rich friends who bankrolled their campaigns in order to pay off that debt
>tell everyone they're economic geniuses
>batshit laws everywhere
>rinse repeat

>>575171415

God I hope your wife gets ran over my a tow truck.

>>575172048
I find it funny too
>>575172052
find the actual anon, i just saved the image, i just wana shock poeple with the ammount some can have

>>575172183
WHAT? How does someone using a means of creating a meme automatically signify that they're underage? Funny, only someone who was underage would use that bullshit logic. Secondly, no. You want to fuck kids. You ruin lives and you want kids because they're naive, innocent and easy to control. I don't know how you could possibly justify that.

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>>575172257
And I hope you get castrated and beheaded by a butter knife.

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>>575172746
kek

>>575140874
My freedom chip chip chiparoo

>>575140874
and i thought america was bad

>>575172987

I am glad the feelings mutual.

When will you understand that the UK is not Europe, those people can't buy plastic knives for their cakes unless they're 18 fucks sake

>pedos molest kids
>quick, give them child porn and lolicon so they don't molest kids
>pedos have child porn
>quick, take their child porn away, it's immoral
>pedos have lolicon
>quick, take their lolicon away, it's immoral too

now pedos have the choice of
>molesting kids, which is illegal, and is what they wanted to do in the first place, or
>looking at child porn, which is also illegal, or
>looking at lolicon, which is illegal now too

what do you think they will choose? do you think this will stop them from molesting kids? no way. you take away their only other outlet and you will increase child sex abuse a hundredfold

>>575171653
Trials take time and money. They also offer the chance that he'd get off on a technicality.

>>575174420
You know that people did fap even before there was porn, right? You don't need any kind of visual stimulation.
I don't disagree that the laws are stupid but so is your argument. Their argument is the other way around btw.
They say loli has to be taken away because it leads to getting perverted and maybe leading to child fucking. That's at least the position in german law.

>>575174148
Yes, the UK is not Europe, but it's in Europe. OP is broadening the target audience of the thread for obvious reasons. What's wrong with that?

>>575175145

You bring up a legitimiate point. People are fucking entitled on all ends. They think they're entitled to material that they can jerk off too. The idea behind a government is to create that safe haven for people to live safely and enjoy perks like having something aside from your imagination to jerk off to.

>They say loli has to be taken away because it leads to getting perverted and maybe leading to child fuckin

That's a slippery slope fallacy and is easily countered by offering porn as an example.

>>575175145
i certainly didn't need lolicon or child porn to make me pedo and want to touch up kids. kids did that. but whatever. you've still gotta think about what pedos can do to satisfy their urges. yes, they could fap to nothing. but why would you when there are better alternatives?

if you're presented with three things, each one has the same disadvantage (it's illegal and will get you arrested), but one of those choices is clearly better/more satisfying, which are you going to go for?

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>>575146598
>>575146598
This. After all the recent high-profile celebrity pedo cases in the UK this shit has gone to people's heads.

>mfw Tory pedos are walking around Westminster err'day

So how did the police discover it on his computer?

>>575167612
Slightly off-topic since that's a legitimate crime which affected a real, physical child. I very much agree that such acts are reprehensible, to the point of being unsure whether or not we should put down those who act on such desires.

But that's what's important to remember: cartoons (which in no way harm a child) should not be equatable to real CP (photographs of real children).

Taking such photos of a real child is damaging and reprehensible. It fills me with fury. And this passionate hate towards such criminals is what causes me to passionately hate those who say pixels (which were created without harming a child, and will not lead to the harming of a child) are equivalent to the heinous crime of actually molesting and photographing a real child.

It would be similar to someone, let's call him Bob, getting angry about his prison sentence for possession of a small amount of weed being the same as the prison sentence for a mass-murder. This is a purely hypothetical example, try to suspend your disbelief. Bob could be angry because he believes this means mass-murder is relatively acceptable. "Relative" is the important word here. Let reprehensibility be denoted by unit R. Let's say Bob thinks possession of such an amount of weed is 10R, mass-murder is 1,000,000R, and littering is 100R. The justice system has its own method of measuring reprehensibility: in the form of sentence duration (yeah, yeah, and fines, community service, etc, I know). So, if Bob's possession of weed earns him N years, and a mass-murderer typically gets N years (or close to N years), Bob sees that as the justice system saying "Mass-murdering isn't bad, it's only as bad as possession for a small amount of weed". So, Bob thinks, "What?! They're saying mass-murdering is only 10R?!". This makes Bob frustrated because he sees it as the justice system belittling the reprehensibility of mass-murdering. (Continued)

Capcha: conformable nsavali (NSA Valley?)

>>575174420
in America a pedo that grooms and fucks a 13yr old will go to prison for typically 4 yrs. But a pedo that downloads that picture of a nude 13yr old will typically go to prison for 10-15 yrs. so actually the rational choice by far is to molest real children.

>>575142795
>>575165223
Conspiracy of Silence. There's a reason it was banned from television. Been going on a lot longer than you think.

>>575140874
The guy was on parole for CP, having lolicon violated his parole and that's why he was arrested.

>>575176085
(Continued)
That is what I think about equating pixels to real CP, and equating pixels to instances of individuals acting upon their desires. I am aware that the guy didn't get as many years as a mass-murderer, but it's important that it's understood what I mean by relativeness of reprehensibility. I am also aware that possession of weed doesn't net you the same sentence as a mass-murderer. It was just an example. If you were unable to handle the analogy, then you can think of it as:
If C1 gets the same sentence as C2, C2 must be as bad as C1. But if C1 is a victimless crime and C2 has many victims, C2's sentence should be vastly longer, or C1's sentence should be vastly shorter (or non-existent). If a victimless crime gives the same sentence as C2, it's as though C2 didn't have any victims. Whatever, I'm rambling.

>>575176232
No, the guy was on parole for having lolicon.

Then he got more lolicon.

None of the images he had were of real chilluns.