Every night I sneak around my neighborhood and collect the cig butts from the ash trays left outside. I never take ALL of them, or the people that live there might realize that someone is sneaking onto their porch. This is an average harvest.
I remember when I was 16 drinking with some friends and we all ran out of ciggies, so we got all of the bumpers (what's left of the butts in the ashtray), took all of the tabacco that was left out of them and rolled it up in pocket bible paper. Never felt so holy and derogative at the same time in my life.
pasta unless you were the anon in the thread with the broken laptop that you need a separate monitor to use because you can't afford to fix the screen and you borrow wifi and water from a local gas station because you live in a shed outside of a foreclosed home I think idk i'm drunk.
>>565400997 There is a difference between getting married and being financially stable and then having kids and being an 18 year old who was too lazy to use protection. If you were actually an adult and were actually getting married you would be able to figure this out you fucking nitwit.
Used to do the same thing when I was 7 or 8. Except I'd walk around parking lots and pick them up. Sometimes we would take the tobacco out of a shit ton of them and roll it into a few cigarettes. Fucking disgusting but when you're fiending, you have to do something.
I'd spot you a pack of Camels if I could, OP. Good luck out there.
>>565400871 26 >>565400997 well we got divorced when she told me the child wasn't mine, anyway years later when she went after new guy for child support he came up negative on the DNA test, and it fell back on me. With 6 years of back pay now owed.
As far as my "experience" goes, they are taking 100% of my income, which still doesn't cover the full monthly amount, and as punishment they took my drivers license. My ex doesn't work btw, so i have to pay extra.
Again, I don't have money for food, it's a luck thing. The circle K near my house lets me have the stuff they throw away, and free polar pops. Between that and my free slice of pizza every other day, that's about it.
>>565401486 I traveled a lot, I was basically a corporations "cleaner" I would be sent to stores to evaluate and fix any problems that store was having. One day when I fixed the problem, it turns out that the "problem" i just fixed has sucked my bosses dick to get the job, and I was fired on the spot, this left me homeless on the spot.
My heart goes out to you OP. I've had a shit year so far but I've got a girl who loves me who has kept me afloat and given me a place to live. I remember that I used to collect cig butts too when I was still smoking and was too poor to afford a pack. I'd break off the filter and just smoke them as-is since I don't know how to roll my own. :(
>>565401703 I tried a while back, fucked it up, and would up with around 11K in medical bills. Which honestly was so darkly hilarious I couldn't be bothered to try again.
>>565401776 I would, however because my ex gets food stamps, and I pay her child support, in the state of Floridian i do NOT qualify . >>565401896 I actually do have a small patch of ground I grow from, but not much grows in sand scept turnips and potatoes
>>565402849 "“There is always one woman to save you from another and as that woman saves you she makes ready to destroy." - Charles Bukowski
Get a fuckin' prenup, /b/ro. Seriously. A good portion of women, especially those from western cultures, will take you for all that you've fucking got if they get bored or you're just not 'compatible'.
Don't trust fuckin' anybody. That's a good thing to remember. No matter how wet the pussy is or how nice her smile is, don't fuckin' trust her.
>>565403112 You sound so humble, I'm only a college student but I'd love to take you out for lunch and hear your story. Was she always a conniving cunt? What made her be so disgusting? Why can't you get another "real" job and besides pizza, what are you doing?
i just. OP this is going to sound bad. but i mean this. i have been suicidal about losing all of my money and my way of life. not to get into too many details but i moved and transfered jobs only to find out the location i moved too would close after 2 months. after bouncing around shit jobs for a while i am now BROKE. no money at all not a penny to my name i am mooching off of my fiancee and her sister and i feel like a sack of shit. i mean at least you doing you OP im a fucking mooch off of two women at the moment. then my grandfather died *who raised me might as well be my dad.* and my mental state kind of went into the gutter. you just make me happy for what i do have i mean god damn dude at least when i get another job i keep the money and shit and i still have a drivers license and a car. yo OP im sorry you on hard times man. all i can do is send you my well wishes and if you are in arkansas let me know ill smoke a big fucking j with you and buy ya a pack of smokes. i mean it.
>>565402970 They live on the same street I am squatting on, and they wont even give me food. I am not the same religion as them, there fore i am beyond help.
>>565402883 Oh my god I would in a SECOND, problem is there is no money in just robbing gas stations, and I don't know anyone from the mob.
>>565403038 Disney. >>565403148 Well I would, but I don't live near any of those places, and since the government took my drivers license I can't get to them. >>565403156 no paypal, I obviously don't have a bank account. Apopka, I at the very least have a lake side view. No joke, gators in my back yard.
>>565403490 i was a prison guard for 2 years. let me tell you brother it is a LOT. like at least 1/20-30 inmates where child support. i watched god damned kiddy fiddlers get off with less time than child support payments. no dna needed and the court will not let you win if you have a penis. simple as that.
Can I ask something personal? What was your childhood like? Were you happy? Have you been raised with a proper scholarization? What happened to your family?
I'm just curious about your story as I'm really curious about every story about how to become a really poorfag. I don't believe the only matter that brought you in your current situation only revolves around divorce, having children and stuff.
I also hope you manage to grab whatever good life still has got for you, man.
Pic also pretty related. At least you are not one of these woman-submitted fags.
>>565403613 get out of america Try to travek to Europe and start a new live You are 26 Its not to late to start a new live And it is possible to travel to Europe without money or shit. The only thing is to get out of america and they can't do shit
are you happy? if so, ignore this advice. else: bro, this chick is sucking the life out of you.. why does she get to not work while you suffer? where is the equality there? get away, move state, stop paying child support - you cannot afford it. watch this shit too: http://manhood101.com/ebook.html life is short man, too short
You seriously have nothing to lose. She sounds like a piece of shit. Just kill her and then the kid is yours and you keep every cent you earn. With two jobs you could probably look after yourself and the kid just fine.
She sounds like a horrible fucking person, seriously. I have more empathy than most and I'd still sleep like a baby if it was me who bumped her off. It's not as if your life could get any worse. In fact you'd probably have a higher quality of life even if you did get caught and sent to prison.
>>565403281 I have neither of those things. >>565403304 We were young, I was "punk" at the time, and like a peacock i was attracted to the one with the brightest mowhawk. However the conniving part comes from her utter apathy, others will make her life livable without effort on her part. I have a job offer out of state, but i cannot come up with the money to get there. I have to bluff myself to seem like the person they want to pay to relocate. >>565403314 >then my grandfather died *who raised me might as well be my dad.* and my mental state kind of went into the gutter. >>565403314 thanks /b/ro >>565403378 Honestly i don't know. The depression nearly killed me, quite literally in fact. Ever since the ER i don't feel much of anything any more. I feel happy at times, and i feel sad at times, but it always feels like someone else's emotions.
It's the whole reason I go crazy over nicotine, it is the only thing that seems to keep me sane enough to go to work. >>565403494 Bankrupcy have no effect on CS, and i am currently trying to find a lawyer, because I am unable to renegotiate without legal representation. However my ex's father has paid for her to have such wonderful legal help, it's a very tricky thing. >>565403534 it's a sinking ship yes, but there is no where to go but in the water.
OP if this is legit, you are flat out irresponsible. You may be paying child support, but you could be doing much better. Why don't you drop your disgusting fucking habits and learn how to manage your money.
Fucking america :( I feel for ya bro, if you can get the fuck out of america and come live illegally in Australia, all these fucking shit grubby immigrants do it and they get fuckloads of benefits. Even if your living here illegally it is easy as to find cash jobs here where you will make a decent living and can fly under the radar.
Come to Australia and use, www.gumtree.com From this site you will be able to find everything from a good paying cash in hand job and a self contained unit somewhere where you will have good living conditions.
>>565403717 My parents were more or less members of a hyper Christian cult. They believed that association with people not of the "faith" was dangerous to my well being, and as a result home schooled me. My education was to "study the bible daily" I had very few friends, and can count the social events of my pre teen years on my hands. it was abusive, and it was shitty. >>565403751 I don't have an address here, but i often get mail at the gas station near my house. >>565403760 >>565403841 FL >>565403846 You know, I still don't believe the deep web exists, I just assume its a long con troll. >>565404002 If I could get a passport and air fair I would in a heart beat. >>565404057 why is it that all of you blame the woman? Yeah, shes a cunt, she is a huge problem in my life, but you cannot run from problems like this.
I am not in the habit of blaming fish for swimming, birds for flying, and women for being manipulative whores, tis the nature of life. >>565404264 because, believe it or not, she is a good mother.
>>565404296 A lawyer will tell you to file for bankruptcy. The judges decision will be the main factor in your payments, but if you have something documented that shows how broke you are, like having to file, it may sway the opinion. That and it gets rid of your debts, if you have any.
>>565404634 the first person they question is the ex partner also maybe he isnt inclined to take the life of his children, sometimes you can hate a bitch but when you have kids you take into account their feelings over your own (if you are any sort of father), OP is nothing more than another example of the male privilege feminazis seem to think is better than what they get in life.
>As far as my "experience" goes, they are taking 100% of my income, which still doesn't cover the full monthly amount, and as punishment they took my drivers license. My ex doesn't work btw, so i have to pay extra. >Again, I don't have money for food, it's a luck thing. The circle K near my house lets me have the stuff they throw away, and free polar pops. Between that and my free slice of pizza every other day, that's about it.
That just can't be right. You must be doing something wrong there. Isn't there some welfare agency, or help organization you can turn to? I know 'murrica is an unsiocial country but what you describe is just over the top.
Is there someone in america who cannot help this poor anon out like fuck, for a dude that was force fed the bible for breakfast you turned out alright bro, you stayed resilient from the brainwashing at least.
>>565404814 i did read the thread. read my fucking post and get cancer. sympathizing pussy. OP is a fucking dead beat loser playing the humble, "its a shitty life but its my life" bullshit persona. He needs to just kill himself already before a diet of strictly turnips, potatoes, and frozen sugar does.
>>565402074 Thats a lie. Im 21, imagine my mother dont want to handle me anymore - and kicks me out of house, i wont get 1 penny. She have to pay my food, cloth, flat etc. until im 25. But she cant, so i have to starve. Germany isnt the paradise, except your a neger-imigrant coming from afrika.
>mfw i was at the "Arbeitsagentur" for asking for money, and they tell me this.
>>565405225 Stop paying the child support. Open a new bank account if you can, get your wages payed in there. If you're homeless or living in a shed save up the money to emigrate, or go live in Mexico or Canada illegally.
I really feel for you, anything is better than this.
Move to MN bro. I've got a decent house with nothing in it. Might as well have another anon who has fallen on hard times. I'm 100% serious. There is tons of factory work here as well with decent pay and benefits as well!
>>565405225 can you somehow "proof" you have german ancestors? would be quite easy to get to germany then i know russians who did it that way the german state probably would lend you the money for a planeticket
>>565404839 >because, believe it or not, she is a good mother. >believe it or not
I don't believe it for a second bro, sorry. She sounds like a horrible person and by extension a horrible influence on your child. For Christ's sake show the pictures you showed us to a judge at the very least. Show them to every lawyer you can find, one of them is bound to take pity and do your case pro bono eventually. Don't give up. There is a very obvious injustice in what is happening to you and you can make the court see that if you keep trying.
>>565405159 Well yeah, but I was talking about shit like car payments, credit cards, other loans etc. Student loans can be deferred indefinitely when you are poor. You just have to know how to game the system. I'm surprised OP doesn't just represent himself and bring proof that he's starving to death and ask for lower payments based on current income.
>>565404890 I have zero debt, the only thing I owe is CS. >>565404976 one of my fave books of all time actually, I feel like the dude from red dragon, consuming the things i love. >>565404989 I of course am pursuing all options available to me, but it takes time for the wheels of bureaucracy to turn, and in the interim i am living in a shed. >>565405143 When I see my daughter, I take her to the park. I would never put my child in a situation where she may feel she is the cause for my suffering. I had to grow up with that, I wont do it to her. >>565405169 Thanks aussie >>565405178 Thanks /b/ro it's good to see there is still some edge left.
>>565405363 you are so fucking gay for him you should just make a suicide pact that involves choking to death on each others cocks. if you feel so bad for him, why don't you send him some money or food or some kind of care package? i bet you wont. >inb4 im poorfag too
>>565405563 This. Just do this. At least do this of all things. Maybe it'll evolve into some giant legal feat that results in the child support system being completely rebuilt or some shit. That would make for a good movie, right?
>>565405614 check out the edginess of this dude. OP has already stated that he has no paypal or bank account asshole or I would of donated a few dollars to the cause already. Shit someone atleast buy this guy a packet of smokes
>>565399239 i'v been doing this for years ever since the smoking ban in bars. We call is sniping, because you have to be sneaky as to not get cought. One time a old man seen me and he said "" that's the smartest thing I seen in awhile.
Pro tip: in the winter the trays are full of half sigs
Also I don't bother rerolling I just cut half the filter off
>>565405320 Every non working German inhabitant has the right to get ALG2. (I study Politics and Economics so you can trust this claim). Better word for ALG2 = Grundsicherung für erwerbslose. I think you have to get ur mom in court and process against her. If it turns out she aint got money for you (which I doubt cause at least Kindergeld should work till 25, sure there are exceptions though which again push your ALG2 income) then the Arbeitsargentur will pay you.
Same shit for students who cant receive Bafoeg cause their parents earn too much. Process vs. them, win -> get money and fuck up ur child-parent relation lel
So get a new Fallmanager or actually listen to your current one.
>>565404989 Oh i did do something wrong, I was homeless and didnt get any of the CS paperwork till it already took effect, and it's been 6 months of trying to convince them I no longer have fat stacks of cash. >>565405445 I already turned down paypal offers, I would except food or smokes if someone offered, but thats not exactly a jew move. >>565405468 trying too obviously. >>565405482 is that a fact? Hmm, i have a bit of German on my grandfathers side. >>565405563 >implying I want to rasie the child.
>>565404989 Roofing fag here. I filed for unemployment during this years shit winter in Chicago. They gave me the run around for a month and then stop answering my calls, emails, etc. I never saw a dime of unemployment. They still owe me over $800 for the time I was off. Almost lost of house because of it (renting with fiancé here while also going to uni). These people don't give a fuck about you or your needs. America is shit.
Ive been living overseas teaching english for the past 14 years. There are a lot of korean chinese and taiwan jobs that will send you a plane ticket. Some countries have stricter standards, but dude borrow and beg so you can get a passport, u got a computer so u can fake doxs, trust me most foreign immigration departments dont bother checking when your school applies for your work visa, and start applying for everything at eslcafe.com
>>565405614 I'm only gay for you. >>565405812 I actually do quite a bit of writing, not sure how to go about getting something published, or if anyone would want to read the bizarre musings. >>565405973 Oh you don't need to tell me that protip, I already know about the wintertime half smokes. >>565405431 Well arn't you the good Samaritan.
>>565406064 also in germany it is forbidden by law to be "mittelstandslos", which means you always get the minimum of cash to have a small flat and something to eat. it doesnt matter how much debt you got
>>565406162 Jail time boyahh. >>565406186 bout an hour. >>565406212 Serious question, how hard is it to find work not speaking German? More importantly, would it effect my ability to get laid? Cause I as much as I would like the local women to see me as the exotic, I am american, so I doubt I would be seen as anything other then every stereotype. >>565406473 Honestly? Yes I think it would be, 3 meals, and AC. But I am just too stuborn to wind up in jail simply because I "Gave up"
>>565406675 His child support bill was based off the previous job he had, which paid much more, but now he's working 2 shit jobs that only pay a fraction of that. His child support bill is still being based off his other job, so it's now charging the same amount of money but he isn't even making enough to pay it. Therefore, 100% of his income goes to CS.
>>565406521 I'd rather have to wash out the taste of shitty cigs with water, then have to wash out the taste of shitty cock with cigs. >>565406610 Wow, that's really interesting actually, I love that you have a word for that. >>565406628 yeah ok >>565406807 Oh I'm not going to kill myself, I am actually doing this because I never talk about myself in person. I feel complaining is a sign of weakness. but thanks to the powers of the internet I can share the hilarity of my pathetic situation with people who will both show sympathy, and call me a faggot.
>>565406628 Are you fucking retarded? you get fake passports for non serious things like DMV visits or getting into places, you can't travel with them unless there connected to a matching number in the databases + holyfuck have you been to an airport latley, you'd get bumraped and called a terrorist just for having a fake passport
>>565406513 When you reach a certain point in your life, like I am sure you've experienced several times, you reach a plateou when you just don't care. So if inviting a homeless guy to your house would help someone in need, that's what I'd offer. I was being dead serious. What's keeping you in FL? Cigarette butts?
>>565406857 Only person I know in FLA lives 6 hours away. Does the gas station have a Moneygram or something similar? I know you said you didn't want money, but fuck, at least let some us send a couple bones for smokes and food.
>>565406857 Germans are friendly to foreigners from western countries.So dont worry that much if you will get pussy or not. This, btw, should be your least motive.
You might work at lowpay/"background" jobs, we got plenty of those jobs filled with arabs/slavs who are almost not understandable. Universities here are open minded as fuck. Such a "pseudo peace we are all friends hihihi" atmosphere. You might find work here. When u come here and receive government money for living you will be taken into an interview to find out about ur strengths/weaknesses and possible jobs to work in.
Man, I know what ever I say wont help or matter in any sort of way ever but please be well and good luck to you i feel like shit due to this, you seem like a really nice guy and to be in this situation over nothing is horseshit I hope balance will find you and atleast some good will come to you /b/ro
>>565407171 >Passport name "Muhammad Akbar Terry" >>565407187 Oh, thanks for the pig! >>565407198 hmm, I am now seriously considering this. >>565407209 Yeah, actually love each other. >>565407218 I'm really not sure, perhaps its ennui, perhaps it's the inability to move, like a ghost chained to a location till his soul is put to rest. My only problem would be getting there. >>565407247 I honestly don't know, i could check. One sec.
Would you guys keep this thread going for just a min, I wana go take a picture of the abandoned toilet i use, you guys will get a kick out of this.
>>565399239 Reading all this almost brought me to tears I never usually cry because of things like this but your situation is just unfair and I know I can't really help you in any way but I just want you to know that there are people who care and that should make up for a lot of stuff that's going through your head Don't give up and I want the best of luck to you in your life, you deserve it more than any of us fags here
Ich war vor 2 Stunden beim Arbeitsamt. Meine Mutter verdient ein wenig mehr, als das ich noch Kindergeld/ALG2 bekommen könnte. Jedoch nicht genug, um mir irgendetwas zu zahlen. Wir haben kaum Geld im Monat über, wohnen im Schwarzwald ist teuer - umziehen kommt nicht in frage - kein Auto/Führerschein.
Ich fragte ihn genau wo die Probleme sind.
Stellt euch vor meine Mutter wirft mich raus - sie müsste daher für mich zahlen - geht aber nicht.
Dem typ beim Arbeitsamt sagte ich:"Ich fliege demnächst raus, was für eine Wohnung könnte ich mir suchen (Preis/qm) er sagte er zahlt mir nichts.
Daher - er hätte mir sagen müssen das sie mir geld geben - das meine mutter wieder zurückzahlt.
btw: Seine eigene Mutter verklagen - gehts noch? Wenn man soweit gehen muss, das sieht man doch den Fehler im System.
actually many people from all over the world come to germany to start a new life because of the government support. hell, the only problem is how to get there. try an embassy or something similiar, or the internetz
>>565407949 du kannst dir wohl denken, wer lügt, oder? AA lügt grundsätzlich. rechtsschutzversicherung holen und klagen, wenn du nicht weiter weißt. es lohnt sich!
Man, this world is fucked up. It disheartens me that there is not much I can do for you OP, but if its of any comfort I will dedicate a cone for you next time I get high. I hope you pull through OP, you are a good person.
You got to prove income, a reason to return to your home country, to get an EU travel visa, and as far as one year ago goes, getting an EU work visa is damn near impossible these days. Asia or arabstan countries however are easy to get work visas.
>>565407247 Yes circle K offers moneygrams. The one by my house is 7440
>>565407415 Here in the good ol USA we pay our mexicans 4$ an hour to do the hardest jobs possible, its nice to know you treat your immigrants much better. >>565407423 I have my own zen, it keeps me going, any day above ground, is a good day. >>565407561 Of all the people I have ever told my story too, /b/ has been the most kind, which scares me honestly.
Check it! I found this old toilet in the woods, it's full of shit, there is even an old dathvader voice changer in here.
>>565407949 Jo, dass niemand gern seine Eltern verklagt ist verstaendlich. Du hast aber das "verfassungsmaessige Recht" auf ALG2. Wenn es da Einzelfaelle fuer Jugendliche unter 25 gibt kann ich speziell dazu nix sagen. Aber der Fallmanager kann sich dem nicht verwehren! Sag halt ihr habt Stress und kommt nicht klar miteinander. Huebsch das auf und schon haste dein ALG2 Regelsatz.
Kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass deine Mama was zurueckzahlen muss.
Verstehe gerade dein Problem nicht. Willst du ALG2 als Taschengeld? Oder willst du ausziehen und dir wird ALG2 vorenthalten?
oh god I hate how the treat human dignity in the USA. just for money... a shame for such a great country. I also think becoming a criminal is the only way. Otherwise you will have to die.
The whole thing rots from the inside and has to go down. I have ancestors in Europe and they always complain about having to pay taxes for people who have problems in life but they would never object to it. It has to be something every single one is proud of. Call it christian or bhuddistian or whatever. It's not about religion or justice, it's about a certain way of life, of being on this planet and of preserving peace.
So as long as you can endure it, ok. But your situation seems to be a good starting point for legit violence. As long as it's for food, warmth and survival. I'm not talking about your drug addiciton. If you can't manage to change the place you are staying you will have nothing but death. The death of an animal
>>565399239 Dude. If you aren't fucking insane, and we get along decently, I'll buy you a bus ticket to Wisconsin and you can live in my extra bedroom or basement. We have openings right now and I'm sure i could get you in there somewhere.
hey op you ever look into trolling craigslist for some under the table shit? i have a small edge on a lot of people because i weld and work on cars as a hobby but i've made a lot of money when i really needed it just trolling around looking for people looking to have shit done. without a car i don't know what to tell you but maybe you could figure something out.
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