Doesn't really matter exactly why. Arin is a pretentious faggot that sucks at playing games and sucks at commentary. Jon is genuinely funny, and Arin was only dragging him down. If anything, Jon leaving to go make more JonTron videos is for the better.
Jon had shit parents that abused him. Arin is known to have anger issues. Jon looked up to Arin. Everyone was older than Jon for what that's worth. His GF hated Suzy which I totally agree. I really don't want to bother explaining why Suzy is a cunt(lies to fans) etc and why GG is awful for the millionth time. I really should screen cap when I type this shit out.
Danny is fucking great. I really hope GG doesn't ruin him.
>>554364204 This makes more sense than anything. They wouldn't be so weird about talking about it if it was something simple. If this came out then Arin would look like the biggest asshole faggot on the planet and GG would be totally finished. That's why it's under wraps and NOBODY is saying anything. It's all about the $$$ baby and that's all it will ever be about. I can't imagine what Jon was thinking after he found out he slapped Nicole.
>>554364204 This is fake. Ego certainly never struck another woman, otherwise one of those four main players would have said this was the case. There would have been a massive brawl if something like that happened too.
>>554367692 Basically.. Jon is 5'10" and he towers over Nicole(easily 5'0" tall) in pictures so I couldn't imagine 6'2" Arin slapping her. That'd be insane. Jon definitely did it right to just leave and not make it into some alpha male defending bullshit. Arin already looks like the huge asshole in general so why bother. Suzy is a huge lying cunt and Nicole is cool as hell. Jontron is actually funny and a REAL SHOW anyway so I'm glad they split. >>554366752 You don't know how $$$ influences people, I guess.
>Jon and Arin make channel >after being friends for a while, have some personality conflicts >after time, jon doesnt even wanna do the channel anymore >feels like it limits him and stagnates him creatively >Arin likes doing grumps and sees potential in the channels future, has big plans. Jon wants it to stay simple, if anything >It takes arin way longer to make a video than jon for a few reasons, grumps looks like a better way to make youtube cash for him >jon decides to leave, especially because of a new gf he cares about more than the channel
Why do you need high school drama injected into this? most of this stuff is said pretty explicitly in grumps videos. Is this not convincing enough?
Why the fuck do you care, neither of them were funny. They weren't funny alone, and they aren't funny now. Their entire fanbase is made up of edgy faggots, children, and people whose idea of quality content includes Michael Bay films and fart jokes.
>Arin proved to be a clever guy, officially calling Game Grumps fans “Lovelies.” They really do live up to the name. So, I'm pretty sure it was Dan's idea. http://sharkpuppet.com/there-was-no-drama-for-game-grumps-fans-at-magfest-and-thats-a-great-thing/
>“You know that the Game Grumps channel is first and foremost a business to me,” said Egoraptor, “But of course, entertainment is second. http://www.p4rgaming.com/egoraptor-i-considered-just-replacing-jontron-with-a-sound-alike/
>>554371362 Well if the whole Arin slapping Nicole story is true then Arin wouldn't of wanted Danny thinking less of him as well so he would of probably given Danny some bullshit reason so they could stay friends and Game Grumps could continue.
>>554371809 you really don't know that. danny could just be dealing with it for all of that game grumps $$$. I really doubt he was rolling in the cash from only NSP. Jon DID say that he missed Danny in a video livestream though.. so who knows.
>>554372037 Danny could achieve super yt fame without gamegrumps, he is friends with various other youtubers and has a rather popular channel himself. also hate Danny for not being Jon if you want but Danny is a very nice guy, he feels uncomfortable even teasing Arin and never goes too far, I believe that if Danny thought Arin was a dick that he would not hang around with him as Danny is clearly not a dick himself.
>>554374659 her sister is okay because she doesn't cake makeup on like some mentally ill whore but that's really it.. they're still twins. Nicole would be 10/10 if it was between the three of them for some weird reason.
Most of my references, however, come without a referral. I simply don’t have enough time or internet access to provide links to every single detail that I bring up, so I would ask those in the audience to share if they remember what my examples are; alternatively, I’m going to ask you, as the reader, to trust me. Also, there is no tl;dr version. My theory will try to show that both Jon and Arin, and Game Grumps in general, was met with a catastrophe that resulted from decades of dominoes falling, and unexpectedly resulting in… this.
Arin Hanson is the middle child of his family. He looks up to his older brother, almost idolizes him. He has ADHD, didn’t graduate high school, and has extreme abhorrence for bullies, because he was bullied himself. He’s only had one girlfriend – his wife, Suzy. He went from practically unknown and blossomed into an internet superpower with the help of Newgrounds, and is considered among most people to be one of the best animators and comedians online today.
>>554375043 Arin slapped Nicole(Suzy started talking about Nicole and her artwork and general bitchy cunty girl shit and then Nicole started saying things back as anyone would and Arin apparently heard it), Jon and Nicole basically said fuck this and left with his GF to live permanently in NYC. Nobody currently in GG saying anything because it would ruin GG forever and Arins career would effectively be in the fucking toilet for being some women hitter(along with everyone keeping their lips sealed), meanwhile Jon and Nicole aren't saying anything because it's more trouble than it's worth and will open a huge can of worms. I personally hope they don't do anything because they seem to be doing well and they're so much better off without all of that bullshit.
LOTS of evidence for this theory. just read the fucking thread.
Middle children are often the ones most excluded in families. It’s safe to assume, considering how much he talks about him, his older brother took the spotlight for his own achievements. Add in having a younger sibling, a “baby in the family”, and quickly Arin is left to his own devices. He’s without encouragement or a sense of achievement, and (as you can tell by his earlier appearances and attitudes) is a little punk. He’s not a badass – he gets his ass kicked at school regularly. Nor is he overwhelmingly intelligent, an introverted genius. He drops out of high school, in pursuit of what he wants to do, giving the finger to everyone not in a stylish fashion, but as an immature child. By acting out he is able to garner attention for himself, through negative reinforcement. The more he acts out, the more attention he gets.
His flash videos, some of the first in the Stone Age of home animation, earn him praise the likes of which he’s never seen or felt before. It’s the first time that he actually feels successful. This is what would become his home turf. He’s immediately the king, the pinnacle, the zenith, and that means no one can talk down to him. Even though better work would emerge from what he started – Harry Partridge is a prime example – he still views himself as a king on his throne. He has to. If he’s not the best flash animator, then what does he have? He becomes a punk kid again.
>>554376701 Another way he views himself as the best, is through his one-and-only Suzy. Arin has never experienced rejection. If he gets hated online, he has a massive fan base to steam roll the person who calls him out. He’s like King Louis on his throne, able to look on and laugh as his loyal subjects slaughter the offender. In real life, he may not have help at the flick of a finger, but he’s never had to be called out for being a poor boyfriend. He’s only had one girl, one who compliments him and supports him and encourages him. He finds no fault in his real life, for his actions. If he does something stupid, it’s because of his ADHD. If he does something wrong, that’s someone else’s problem. He has no faults, not with his videos, not with his love-life, not with his family, because he’s either deluded himself into thinking he’s perfect, or someone else has deluded him into it.
Sequelitis quickly becomes a popular video “series”, with him logically and carefully pointing out things he enjoys. It’s one of the rare times when we see Arin as level-headed as he can get. He releases them at the dawn of yet another age – the Let’s Play Era. He was lucky to have been born in time to experience the beginning of flash, but his flash quality was waning. He looked to Let’s Play as another opportunity for a fresh start. And, not including a bunch of background information, Game Grumps is formed (for Arin).
>>554376853 What we’re left with is a boy trapped in a man’s body, a kid who’s never had to do introspection for his own faults, and is able to project his errors onto everyone else. To call him out on being wrong is a sin, and is met with swift justice from his devoted following. Arin’s created a world where he is perfect, and he will continue to become perfect, with no regard for anyone else’s feelings, because his superficial construct won’t let him empathize with another person. He can't process his own faults.
>>554376853 Just read it nigger. It's less than a paragraph.
Arin slapped Jons longtime GF Nicole. Jon and Nicole leave for good to NYC. Jon and Nicole aren't saying shit because it will open a huge can of worms and is NO WAY worth bothering with, and nobody currently in GG is saying anything because it will totally destroy GG along with their careers(especially Arins - forever known as fuckhead woman hitter)
>>554377321 Oh Okay, I thought I was missing something.
>>554376998 Jon Jafari is the only child of an immigrant family. He started out small, wanting to pursue reviews of video games because he thoroughly enjoyed them. He even admits in his first video that he’s “just another copycat of AVGN”, but he decides to go through with making his two-part video anyways. He garners some attention, thanks to being affiliated with Normal Boots, and quickly finds his stride to separate him from other video game reviewers. He’s not afraid to be ridiculous, but doesn’t take it over the edge. He knows where the limits of being funny are, and that’s what made him wonderful on Game Grumps.
If you follow a trail of usernames, you quickly find out that Jon had a difficult childhood. Immigrant children are raised strictly, to ensure that the parent’s sacrifices weren’t wasted in creating a better life for their family. Jon, however, is extremely tenderhearted. He’s just naturally soft and caring, and being pressed under the thumb of his father made growing up difficult, especially being the only child, the only focus of his parents’ attention. His parents would continually fight and scream, and Jon had to find a way to cope. He was too gentle to hurt himself, and too scared of his parents to act out. So he found the only alternative he could find – laugh.
THis is long as shit niggas, someone please screencap
As Game Grumps progressed, Jon was becoming disillusioned. Arin was in pursuit of monetary gain. Jon longed to go back to just being friends playing video games. Not to mention the internal warfare. As Jon became more recognized, he started to eclipse Arin as the main icon of Game Grumps. If Jon would make a joke, Arin would interrupt. If Jon would sing, Arin would interrupt. No matter what was happening, if the situation was giving Jon more attention than Arin, something bad and uncomfortable was about to happen. Of course, Jon wouldn’t call him out on it. Jon’s passive-aggressive, and would much rather swallow the bile and give himself an ulcer than be confrontational about it.
But the situation was becoming more volatile. Arin wants to sing, but he can’t sing. Jon can sing, and Arin loathes him for it. Arin wants to tell a joke, but he only knows cookie-cutter racist jokes. Jon can pull a joke out of a situation, and leave us in tears. Arin wants to play his favorite video games, but they’re Mega Man, which is essentially the same game nine times over, and not fully entertaining to watch – especially when he’s sub-par at them. Jon wants to play his favorite video games, and shows how skillful and adept he is with Donkey Kong Country, bringing with it years of nostalgia as he thinks fondly on it. Jon brought us back to our childhood, and every time he did, Arin would spit venom into it.
It’s ironic, though, because the worse Arin was, the more Jon would try to be funny and avoid conflict. But the funnier he was, the worse Arin would get, creating a circle that would spin faster and faster out of control.
During this time, Jon made a girlfriend, and she provided words of wisdom to him. “If they’re using you and being mean to you, they aren’t your friends.” I can imagine he’d reply, “But he’s Egoraptor. He’s what I looked up to growing up!” She’d shoot back, “He’s Arin. He’s a guy who doesn’t want to grow up, and he’s not worth your time if he’s hurting you.” And Jon would think, “I have my own life, I have my own following, and I have enough support to go back to Normal Boots and start again. I can move and stay in New York, and make Jontron, and my life, the way I want to. I can finally let everything go.”
I like to think that because of his girlfriend, Jon was able to confront Arin about his antics. I like to think he was able to get out everything he needed to say, and leave. I like to think Arin acted ridiculous on camera, because he couldn’t process all the things that were yelled at him, because he’s never seen fault in himself. But mostly I like to think that Arin was finally hit with the weight of Jon’s words, because the early videos of Game Grumps with Danny show us a calmer, quieter, more receptive Arin.
I’m wrong at that last point, though. Arin was calm because the fan base hated Danny, vehemently, for replacing Jon. Arin was smiling to himself, because people were talking shit about his new cohost. It only becomes apparent lately, with a majority of the fans loving Danny and all his talent and stories, that Arin is a two-faced narcissist. Now that Danny is liked, Arin has gone back to being impossible to handle, just as he was towards the end of Jon’s stay with the show.
You can blame Arin himself, or blame Arin’s environment growing up, but when it comes to Game Grumps, there’s only one real problem.
All the autism in this thread is ridiculous. Arin isn't a huge dick and jontron did leave to make more jontron and to move in with his girlfriend. You faggots just want it to be more than it actually is
>>554378610 They would be because they fucking did a show together for a year and now arin has moved on without jon. Game Grumps started out as just a Arin and Jon thing and I'm sure that meant something to the both of them.
>>554378009 Read it, I could be wrong but you're going so far into detail about it that it's giving me suspicion that you possibly knew Jon and Arin personally, and you're passing this off as a theory in an attempt to avoid suspicion.
It's because Banjo-Kazooie was talking shit about Suzy, so Arin slapped Banjo-Kazooie. Grant found out about it so he picked up and moved back to the UK, but he can't go public or he'll lose all that sweet Grabbed by the Ghoulies money.
>>554382184 Nope, I remember there being an episode where Danny said something offensive enough to get bleeped out by Barry. Can't remember which video it was though. Danny can be offensive, just not on the same level as Jon was.
This is why I can't stand watching Game Grumps. They're so fucking bad at playing games. Just put their videos on mute and pretend hearing an old person saying, "huhhh what's that, I don't know, what am I suppose to do again, does this button do something?"
>>554383139 Because it is undeniable that Arin is the reason that Game Grumps went from 2 dudes playing games together and having a good time, to, "Oh shit son! You see how I fucked you/him up son!. Yeah, son! Get outta mah house, son!" Fucking hell, even Danny seems like he is getting tired of Arin's shit. Look at the old Dan episodes and compare them to the new Dan episodes and tell it doesn't seem like he's about ready to walk out any day now.
>>554384889 I wish I could believe that, anon. But there's been so much sketchy shit that's happened since Jon's left that it's damn near impossible to believe that something didn't do down. Hell, look at Jon's Magfest Panel. Some dude asks him if he'll go back to GG; the way he responds makes it seems like something had to have gone down.
>>554362394 >It's sad how we reject television celebrities only to begin talking about internet ones.
I'm more than happy that people aren't giving a fuck about someone for their fat ass or for playing a role in some kind of love/action drama that has been done over 100 times but slightly different plot.
It's obvious something's happened because Jon hasn't even updated his twitter to send some love to Arin's first new Sequelitis in over a year, something that he was talking about working on even during Jon's stint as a Grump.
It's been a year now - if the reason they've both maintained a low profile about each other was to give the new Game Grumps a chance to blossom... well, that's happened. Two people who are friends but just had to move away don't just ignore each other forever.
We'll never know the true story though. I very much doubt this "Arin hit Nicole" story, seems spectacularly over the top.
Then again, with the kind of money these YouTube celebrities make (PewDiePie is on $4 million a year, Game Grumps has got to be hitting $500,000-1 million), I can see why the maybe 2 or 3 people who know are keeping a lid on it. I can also see why Jon would keep a lid on it if he negotiated royalties on any video featuring him. Maybe Danny has no idea, and it's just Arin, Jon, Suzy and Nicole who really know what happened.
I wish someone would have the balls to call out Jon or Arin at a convention some day, but be able to do it in a way that isn't super aspie so they can easily be shut down. Unfortunately, it kinda is aspie in the first place to even care.
God damn it, I just want to watch the show. It gives me a laugh, a little something to look forward to, that kind of shit.
It's obvious that Arin is troubled. The way he talks, the jokes he makes, how he fucking rages sometimes and then just "cools down" for the sake of a joke. The only way that he hides it really is through Danny or Ross, and under the cover of being funny for the show. I feel bad for him, when I watch GG and I can fucking tell he's messed up.
What I wanna know is where it is implied by any of the grumps or Jon/Nicole that Arin hit Nicole. I keep seeing speculations of what happened, but I'd like to see where they implied it.
Personally, I don't believe it. I would think Nicole and Jon would have pressed charges which would have ruined GG while they get off like the victims that want to move on. The theory I'm more likely to believe is Arin wanting to make more money off the show while Jon wanted to keep it simple and there were arguments over that.
Even though it's probably fake, it's entertaining.
I've watched every video of Game Grumps. Why? I thought they were funny show to watch while high. I'm not loyal to Game Grumps. I don't give a shit if John comes back. Because my life doesn't revolve around this show. They're dumb internet celebrities and they don't effect my life in any physical way. I really don't get why people worship Jon and Arin so much. I really don't.
>Be me >Meet awesome guy >Look up to him, he's really funny and talented >We play games together for a year >Start getting sick of each other, our gfs fight >Start realising I don't wanna just play games anymore >Move to NY with gf >Ex friend replaces me with a mutual friend and continues just playing games with him >I go back to what I was before, but at least I'm doing what I love >We never speak, or acknowledge each other ever again
>>554360437 So you don;t care about the truth, you want some tabloid gossip crap?
The comments telling Jon to get back to making Jontron got to him. He wanted to leave Grumps for a while. When Arin pitched the idea to add steam train Jon he realized this was his opportunity to split. He left Grumps with out discussing with Arin. It left Arin surprised and slightly bitter for he had to scramble to find a new co host for Grumps. Though he was bitter about Jon leaving they still remain friends.
Please stop making this thread over and over. It's been a fucking year since Jon left and there's as much content that has Danny that has Jon.
>>554391935 Danny was never meant to replace Jon. People keep looking at him as a Jon-replacement and pointing out all the things he doesn't have that Jon did.
They're two different people with two different personalities. I liked Jon because he was funny and talked about aspects of the game he and Arin were playing. I like Danny because he is also funny, a bit easier to relate to, and his lack of game knowledge brings a fresh perspective to games many of us grew up with or play a lot of.
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