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We're all about three days of food and electricity away from being rabid animals. Don't kid yourself.

>>550323315
The fact that she is intentionally doing that to make that point is her asking for it

"Just because we are feminists doesn't mean we're right!"
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>>550323478

Pretty much this.

>>550323315
STFU whore

I can be around a naked woman and not rape her. Doesn't change the fact that I still have desire. Feminists just seem to think men can turn it off. It's because they've never been men.

>>550323517
Okay, maybe SOME men are like sharks living on pure instinct.

And stupidity. Definitely stupidity.

>>550323703
It's just over your head

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>>550323315

>>550323315
>hairy puss
would rape

>>550323823
Nope.

>>550323315
She is asking to die from smoking that cigarette

>>550323315
She might not get raped but she's gonna get slapped In the face by the long dick of cancer if she keeps smoking those cigs

This girl is asking for it

She's asking to for a fine, a few days in jail, and a lifetime of difficulties applying for a job because she have a record

psychosexual predators are like sharks though. they are creatures of instinct, not reason or control. that feminists blame all men for rape is so fucking ironic considering their nafalt bullshit.
especially when it is a sick minority and not the fathers, husbands, boyfriends and 16 year old boys flying helicopters that they fuck up.

all feminists are scum and they should be shot, not raped.

>>550324031
Hah SASS id

>>550323478
/thread

>>550324153
Idiot

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>>550324290
The truth hurts, doesn't it?

You should go back to Tumblr.

>>550324358
He really is just an idiot though, he contradicts his entire point in his last sentence.

>>550324153
>psychosexual predators are like sharks though. they are creatures of instinct, not reason or control.
If you say it with enough conviction, it becomes true.

>>550323315
That's perfectly reasonable. However you're trying to apply reason to an unreasonable person. A rapist isn't going to not rape because somebody told them they're not allowed to.

It is never the victims fault for the rape, but it is always their fault for putting themselves in the position where they are able to be raped, for lack of proper judgement or care.

>>550323315
so /g/ apvarently there was anorther bicoin leak pastebin 7pbmALJa

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>>550323315
>mfw there are twice as many men raped each year than women

>>550324290
>>550323703
>>550323941

Either a troll or a moron

As ignorable as the woman in OP's pic

The response is actually a little slippery. It slowly shifts any burden of responsibility off the victim and places it solely on the offender. It also subtly creates a false dichotomy of men who don't rape and beasts who do. It passes off as self-evident that all real men subscribe to this thought and implies that anyone who even thinks to associate any blame with the victim must be a rapist beast with no self control.

I can understand the poster's sentiment but the response only appears to address the meat suit analogy while really delivering an non-sequitur.

>>550323315
He is partially right, though he is preaching to the wrong side of it. He should be telling the man hating feminists around him that.

Men are not sharks. Rapists are. No rational person thinks that rape is ok. That doesn't mean there aren't shitty people, who when presented with an opportunity, or instigated, will act in ways that are wrong.

- You don't walk through compton flashing a grand in cash, and expect not get your shit stolen.

- You don't hop on a P2P server without antivirus software.

- You don't play three card montee on the streets of new york and expect to win money.

There are just common sense things you do to protect yourself from bad shit happening. It doesn't mean the people doing them to you aren't shitbags, but take some fucking responsibility when you don't take measures to protect yourself.

>>550324501
maybe if you do enough mental gymnastics. when did i say that all men are psychosexual predators? you must be confusing men with feminists. they are all hypocritical, stupid pieces of shit out to help themselves and no one else. this third wave feminism is selfish and dangerous and any man who disagrees is fucking stupid considering that any remotely intelligent female is against feminism.

>>550324502
it is true, sure there are rapists that aren't but that doesn't change the fact that some people are predators in a psychological sense. or maybe you just don't know enough about what you are fucking talking about, like the average feminist.

>>550323315
girls that smoke are beyond disgusting....

>We (men) are not fucking sharks!

But when somebody says "You were asking for it" to a woman who put herself in a dangerous situation without being prepared they aren't talking about men, they're talking about rapists.

Rapists exist. As long as they exist it is not safe to dress provocatively in unsafe settings without the means to protect yourself. Just like it's not safe to go swimming in a meat suit.

Why is it that people who were raped because they did something stupid are the ONLY people exempt from personal responsibility after the fact? The world is a dangerous place. It's not going to bend over to accommodate you. Yes, walking around topless is as much asking for it as walking around with a big bag of money. Bad people exist and will hurt you. It's not a good idea to provoke them. News at fucking 11.

>>550324153
>feminists blame all men for rape is so fucking ironic considering their nafalt bullshit.

>all feminists are scum and they should be shot, not raped.

you're doing the same thing by saying that.
I just think Feminazis should be shot.

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>>550324965
I wanted to type this, but this guy already did it for me since it's so obvious.

>>550323478
This.
Once the lights go out, the water stops flowing and the food runs low, everyone becomes a monster. Society only functions because of an absence of aberration.

>>550324509

That's only true some of the time. Most rape victims like most murder victims know and are familiar with their attackers. Many people are attacked or killed by shadowy figures in dark alleys but also need to acknowledge that in many cases, the victim isn't putting themselves in a dangerous position or showing poor judgement.

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>>550324813
don't leave your keys in your car with the windows down in a bad neighbourhood. it is really very simple.

>>550324965
oh so you can see the hypocrisy when i do it but not when feminists do it?
state of the fucking world we live in.

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>>550325038
it only seems to be noticed when a man does it. make the world a better place.

>>550323315
Well that's some soft trolling anon.

>>550325103
I can see hypocirsy whenever it's used. By you for example.

You guys romanticise rape too much. There isn't some distinct line drawn between the mentality of the majority of men and rapists. Rapists aren't savage beasts that lurk the alley ways at night looking for helpless girls who like to take short cuts. They're just average guys who let their libido outweigh their empathy in a moment of bad judgement.

>>550323315

yes but some of us aren't capable of rational thought and only act out of instinct, we call them rapists and muslims, and still others fall into this category and are women, these, we call feminists.

>>550325301

you are wrong madam

These cancerous Tumblr radfems make me sick but if you honestly think because a girl is wearing skimpy clothes or none at all you're entitled to fuck her is the most retarded shit I've ever heard.

>>550325264
my point is that nobody seems to care that feminists do it but everyone cares when a man does it because it is considered hate speech.

if you can't see that i posted that ironically just for this fucking reaction then there is no hope for you and i refer you to this picture.

>>550325217

>>550325068
You mean like date rapes?

Fucking grey area that

Not that it doesn't happen, but that for some weird reason the burden of proof is now on the accused

Guilty until proven innocent. Going to jail because of somebody's say so

>>550325431

none at all is fair game if she's in your house, this is an established rule dating back to the beginning of house, if it strips I fucks.

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>>550325319
Careful, you will provoke them.

>>550325301
Never wanted to rape somebody in my life. But nice try with that bullshit, all men are capable rubbish.

>>550325103
>>feminists blame all men for rape is so fucking ironic considering their nafalt bullshit.

If I didn't see feminist hypocrisy I wouldn't have caught you on your hypocrisy.

>pretty sure this anon is just retarded by now.

>>550324578
[citation needed]

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Picture relevant.

Also could people post sexy teens? Haven't seen much here lately

There's a big fucking line between sexual tension and rapist psychology. One willfully castrates himself while the other brutally gives in to his desires.

Feminists aren't turning men into rapists, they're turning men into mentally ill eunuchs.

>>550325452
If you're going to act like an idiot to make your point clear don't get all mad when people think you're an idiot.

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>>550325624
>mfw Feminists never give one

>>550325731
See if you honestly believe that you are as big a retard as those fucking feminazis. You're not entitled to stick you're dick in them because they're not wearing much

>>550325452
>i posted that ironically just for this fucking reaction

>>550325785
he's just doing something to get a response.
>is asking for it

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>>550323315
>We are not rabid animals living off of pure instinct

As opposed to cunts, one might add.

>>550325462

Date rape, molestation, and straight out rape. False rape accusations are not all that rare but it is hardly the only type of sexual assault that occurs between people who know each other. You are far more likely to be assaulted by someone you know then someone you don't know simply because of proximity and motive.

>>550325529
Don't get all defensive. I'm not proclaiming that all men have a deep desire to rape. I am a male and I know that would be ridiculous.
All I'm saying is not all rapists have a "rapist mentality" their entire lives, there isn't a default rapist mentality just as there isn't a default normal male mentality. You can't separate the two.
Not all murderers are psychopathic and not all rapists are uncontrollable predators. Average people find themselves in fucked up situations all the time. It could happen to you.

Also, I am aware that there are actually a small minority of people who do consciously go around raping for kicks.

>>550325876
they inflate statistics and always pick the highest values, never an average. look t some anti-feminism tumblrs.

no by the way, anti-feminist blogs aren't all run by men.

>>550324578
>all feminists are scum and they should be shot, not raped.

>by other men, that is.
>two wrongs dont make a right
>however, two rights make a plane

>>550325742
Turning men of 'murica you mean

And Sweden, can't forget Sweden

The rest of the world understands that women will always push for more and close their mind to logic in favor of emotions.

And simply laugh at them

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>>550326025
>False rape accusations are not all that rare but it is hardly the only type of sexual assault that occurs between people who know each other.

>>550325948
>doesn't understand the picture

I hope you get raped. entitlement has nothing to do with shit retard. Such a first grader ideology.

>>550325731
This picture is perfect

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The fact that they can walk around naked with a phrase like "Still not asking for it" written on their bodies just shows how much of a load of bullshit all their "rape culture" misconceptions really are. If we did live in a society that thought rape was so awesome and commonplace then those women would be raped, or at the least groped up something fierce for acting like that. But they aren't, because they're protected by the same rights and laws as everybody else and the fact that most men aren't rapists.
They need to shut the fuck up, but you know that's not going to happen anytime soon.

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>>550326132
Only response to you you fucking moron. Doesn't understand the issue at all. >hope you get raped

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>>550324153
you are a fucking moron. rape is not psychosexual, it is natural. im not even joking, but im also not satisfied with this.

>>550325624
2.1% of men reported forced vaginal sex compared to 1.6% of women in a relationship in the previous year.
pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/ID45-PR45.pdf

94% of sexually abused youth in correctional facilities reported being abused by female staff.
bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/svjfry09.pdf

Among inmates reporting staff sexual misconduct, ~ 65% reported a female aggressor
bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/svpjri0809.pdf


50% of homeless youth reported being sexually abused by a female.
nursing.ubc.ca/PDFs/ItsNotWhatYouThink.pdf

I could go on for hours

>>550324713
Well, that's the thing though. People complain about getting their stuff stolen all the time and no one is calling them "greednazis" or something.

As you are saying, it is never okay to rape, but to say "she were asking for it", is implying that it was okay, because "she deserved it"

>>550325948
Agreed. But the whole "not asking for it" protests are dumb. Rapists dont care how modest you dress cause theyre in it for power. Hell they probably would target the more modest girls anyways. Like most feminist movements and rallies, they aggressively attack all men for the crimes of a few jackasses. And rapists are animals any more than serial killers are. Theyre normal dudes with the empathy turned off and a thrill for power.

>>550326094
This

>>550326059
Never said they were...

>>550326047
>Also, I am aware that there are actually a small minority of people who do consciously go around raping for kicks.
I actually would think that is the majority of rape. As in by people who don't give a fuck.

Rather than people who just mess up.

>>550323315
I'm sorry, what?
I was distracted by how uneven her boobs are

>>550326094
How the fuck could we ever forget Sweden. It's almost lost by now.

>>550326025
Oh. Well true..

Can't get raped by someone you never meet

>>550323315
ITT: Virgins with Elliot Rodger syndrome

>>550323478
this

>>550326269
Replies of stupidity = more rape earned.

There is no issue. There is rape, and people that get raped. Then people who act like they were raped and they weren't, just to get free shit or their point across.

Get raped faggot

>>550326305
oh so psychosexual predators have never raped anyone.

funny because my point was that some men are in fact like sharks and ignoring that fact is dangerously retarded.

>>550326114

Okay, your infographic talks about false rape accusation statistics in child custody cases. So what, the discussion isn't solely about rape in child custody cases. It's hardly a blanket response to the point I made.

>>550326000
2/10 would not rape

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>>550326094
From Sweden, and I'd be intressted to know what you mean. I don't really feel castrated. In fact, no one here seems to do it.

In fact, the only people I see complaining is the fat neckbeards who are angry at women because they won't have sex with them. Because they are disgusting neck beards.

But that wouldnt be you, would it?

>>550326329
>theyre in it for power

There isn't a rapist hivemind you deluded fuck.

>>550323315
Lopsided tits
Not even once

>>550324813
ok, to be honest, it shouldnt even have anything to do with how they dress... i think if they walk through some shitty district while being female they are just as likely to get raped. just like if i walk through the same district, ill be a target just cause i'm white. I'm a target, and if i dont want to get mugged i should either have a gun, or not be there in the first place.

>>550326094
By now it's exported itself pretty much everywhere in the western world, invading nothernmost countries first and making its way to the southern ones.

Heck, it even went as far as lebanon.

>>550326327
Yeah but the people who complain about stealing dont protest in huge numbers holding bags of cash in lower class neighborhoods.

>>550326415

Of course not, but you can be raped by someone you met but don't know or by someone you met and do know. Now you're just using glib wordplay.

>>550326501

Look how easily women pull the rape card.

JUST-LIKE-THAT. In a team. For 13 dollars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa5kQbUl5_o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgxwPU0W-Wg

Women have far too many rights.

>>550326371
Maybe in prison. The majority of male on female rapes are committed by people the woman is close to.
Most rapes aren't planned. They're a heat of the moment type deal. Usually the result of alcohol.

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I agree. Shits fucked. Stop being faggots and act like you have a brain capable of cognition.

Feminsts dream being raped every day at every second, trust me...they just hate how bad we make them feel for feeling that natural predisposition.
Rape a feminist and she will never get off of you.
Just don't rape someone from your family, that's wrong as fuck and causes major mental issues to the victim.

>>550326547
if your girlfriend cheats on you and has a kid and then you get a paternity test and prove that the kid isn't yours but the real father earns less money than you then she can still deny it and you need to support her and the kid.

that you are happy with that just shows how castrated swedish men are. you have no opinion in this conversation because you have no balls.

>>550326329
>dont care how modest you dress cause theyre in it for power

Have you raped somebody or how do you know what rapists want?

If rapists want power they would rape grannies. They don't.

>>550326696
And you can't do that shit unless you lack empathy, There has to be a predisposition to it.

Normal people when they are drunk will still not rape people.

Maybe you rape people, but normal men do not.

>>550326552
Lol dipshit,power fantasies are a huge subset of sexual fantasies. most people can enjoy consensual power play and experiment with it. getover yourself dumn cunt.

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>>550323315

He is speaking for the majority; not all men are rapists. This is not the point, but it is the point every feminist (and feminism supporter) misses.

The point of people saying "you were asking for it" is simple: There are rapists out there. Not all men are rapists (nor are they sharks) but it doesn't change the fact there are rapists out there, and just as niggers gonna nig, rapists are gonna rape. The point of covering up and dressing more discreetly is to make you less likely of a target to said rapists.

If a rapist looks at two girls, one in a skimpy short skirt and bikini top and another in a thick cardigan and fairly tight jeans, he will go for the former over the latter. "Why" you ask? EASIER ACCESS! He wants to be in and out (pun intended) in minimal time with minimal chance of complications. As such, he chooses the girl who is pretty much showing everything off as it is.

>>Rant over

>>550323315
but then again. WE LIVE IN SOCIETY. women need to follow the rules just like us men do.
women who do this are the root of all evil.
She NEEDS to put some fucking clothes on and get on whith her shitty little life. like god.
i know i just took the bait but bitches be dumb as rocks today

This is a load of horseshit. Violent crime and sexual assaults are on the decline because of education and improvement in the methods of law enforcement for prevention. "Rape Culture" is a term designed to elicit strong emotional response. It's not the fault of all males that some do rape, and respectable, honorable men need not be subjected to this kind of accusatory defamation of character. Putting every one of us in a non-threatening neon shirt that reads "i am not a rapist please dont mace me" is a ludicrous thought.

The modern trend of emasculating men and telling them its what's necessary and good for them is sickening. Gender roles are not a bad thing, and it's nobody's place but mine to decide what kind of man I will be.

I am a man's man, I am an alpha male. I am loud, I wear a coat of testosterone fueled body hair, I have impressive upper body strength, and I think dick and fart jokes are hilarious. I like football, porno, and displays of theatrical violence.

I refuse to be told that this is wrong. Bigger, stronger and smarter men than me built this world out of metal and brawn. Remember that when you put on your skinny jeans and tell me I'm perpetuating rape culture by being the thing that built that society that allows you to fling such careless, baseless, and offensive statements at my dying breed without having your head popped like Oberyn's.

Signed,

The Ubermensch
It was my privilege.

>>550326552
no but psychology is a thing.

>>550326327
no, hes implying that she could have avoided the whole situation by having some common fucking sense.

If you take the retarded reasoning of feminists out of this is might be easy for you to get the point of not dressing like a slut.

You don't leave valuables in clear sight when you park your car

You don't leave obvious signs you have gone away for the week

You don't walk down a dark ally waving 5k of cash

the whole "teach people dont rape not to get rape thing" means nothing. we teach people not to murder and steal yet it still happens.

also this >>550323478
if the world goes "post apocalyptic" people will be just like people in day z and shit.

>>550326547
Lol nice b8 m8

>>550323315
I just think its funny. I don't think anyone is ever asking for rape (unless that's their thing). It just makes the statement pointless - just like their entire movement.

There's always gonna be some asshole who's still gonna rape because he wants to and there's always gonna be some cunt who fakes being raped because she's really a slut. Their entitled to their own choices, but just shoot them down once they make retarded ones like those

>>550326547
>you're not allowed to have opinions unless you have sex all the time

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>>550326486
Oh so there is something like mental illness? Thanks for teaching me o wise master!
first you are not Pinker, so stop being such an hurr durr pseudo psychologist. second, we were talking about normal men, bcz the normal man is a representative group (the meaning of normal hints that, amirite?), mental ill or criminally insane ones are simply:
not.
because they are not normal. what makes the a not-representative group.
can you follow me?

stop being such a huge faggot

>>550326790
That's still a type of sexual release. By saying rapists rape for power only is to suggest there is no sexual intent, which is completely incorrect. Rapists rape for sexual release, and some rapists get off on power fantasies. That doesn't mean rape is about having power.

>>550324509
>A rapist isn't going to not rape because somebody told them they're not allowed to.
Actually, it has an effect.
But mostly it's a misunderstanding. When feminists write "tell men not to rape" on their tits, it's because they don't have the space to write more. They use a slogan to get to the point quickly.
But the idea isn't in fact to just tell rapists "do not rape", it's to change the culture that let them think it's okay.
I don't believe like some do that porn is particularily to blame, but the fact is that there is differences in rape statistics between different populations that can only be explained by culture, and not by a different level of vulnerability of the victims.
"Try to educate people in a way that makes rapists more rare" isn't as catchy.

Also, there's also another problem : a lot of people assume that dressing sexy or going around nude provokes rapists, and that wearing conservative clothes is a solution.
That's mostly wrong.
First because rapists usually choose to attack the person that seems most vulnerable, not the one that looks most attractive. The plain girl who's passed out in the bathroom is more at risk than the sexy girl with slutty clothes who will get a cab to go home. Rape is usually a crime of opportunity.
Secondly, because for the few rapists who will actually go out of their way to attack the girl with the sluttiest clothes, conservative clothes will not stop them from raping, that will just make them switch targets. There will always be a girl with more slutty or less conservative clothes that will be targeted, even if the local standards of dress include gloves and veils.
It is an individual solution to avoid this kind of rapists, but on a social level it restricts the freedom of people without actually solving anything. People who care about rape in general and not just about one particular person's chance of being victimized shouldn't tell people to dress in conservative clothes.

Ok so for the anons saying that dressing slutty in a dangerous area is basically asking to be raped what about women who have been rapped while they were fully clothed?
Ex: hoodie, jeans, t-shirt

>>550326768
Lol lets say you like redheads. Are you gonna fuck a saggy tit redhead granny or a blonde 19 year old. its not an isolated factor. and wtf is with these people getting defensive about rapists. we got a buncha closet rapists in this thread? christ. and of course they like power. find me a submissive rapist. you wont. its like a buddhist terrorist. it doesnt exist.

>>550326000
>Elliot Rodger syndrome
>>550326000
>>550326000
>>550326000
>>550326000
>>550326000
nice trips sir, fuck you tho

>>550326025
>You are far more likely to be assaulted by someone you know

I once dated a chick who would get down and dirty, make out, dress down to her panties, then refuse to go further.

Yeah, I can understand why some chicks get raped on dates.

>>550326820
Well said

>>550326668

Obviously it happens but you are generalizing from specific cases. School shooting occur but you are still magnitudes more likely to be killed in a car accident driving to school then killed in a shooting at the school itself.

>>550326770
Empathy isn't a constant. A dude could devote his life to helping the needy and one night dominate a drunk chick against her will out of sexual frustration.
I'm with you man, I can't see myself raping a chick ever but I don't have much of a libido to begin with. I've seen pretty decent people let their libido get the better of them. Women included.

>>550323683
They're basically taking biology out of the equation. We're mammals, made to procreate and our life revolves around it. Telling us to turn off those desires while flashing what we crave the most, up in our faces is ilogical. Keeping yourself warm, is not the only reason clothes was invented.

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>>550327050
>>Elliot Rodger syndrome

Lol, ER was a victim of feminism.

>tell a ranting feminazi that all men aren't like 'that'.
>get told that i'm a super small percentage then, and i don't count.
>Elliott Rodger happened
>Feminazis say this is big issue, even though he's just one man, a super small percentage.
>LOLWUT.jpg

>>550326958
You know whats weird. When gay men were discriminated against, they were sometimes raped. by straight men. there was no sexual attraction but power got them off. i never said it was power exclusively but without that drive to dominate and a lack of empathy you wouldnt have a rapist.

>>550326825
If by "thing" you mean a pseudo-science. Then yes.

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>>550327125
>Obviously it happens but you are generalizing from specific cases.

Of course, of course. It can never happen to you. Women are angels.

>>550323315
I have no idea who is supporting what agenda, here, so I'm just gonna ignore it.

>>550323315
>Weird shaped boobs. Gross
>Smoking. Smelly fag breath. Gross
>Some rib cage shit going on?! wtf?!
>Possible bush. This isnt the 80s

Good one OP. 2/10. Would not bang.

>>550326982
>it's to change the culture that let them think [rape is] okay
Is it that they think rape is ok, or is it that they generally do not care?
I mean, using the same argument as in the OP,
>just because someone is cooking food or counting money doesn't mean you're entitled to what they are cooking or counting
but the same rationality could be used to say 'don't teach banks to be more secure, teach bank robbers not to steal'.
It's obvious that criminals are criminals sometimes out of necessity, but most often out of an underlying lack of social understanding.

>>550327235
Its pretty widely accepted that rapists are sadists who get off from abusing power rather than people desperate to get a sexual release. People desperate to get a sexual release just end up as beta fags desperate for any attention a woman will give them.

>>550326384
A man is a rape supporter if...

He discusses the “types” of women he finds sexually appealing and/or attempts to demean women by telling them he does not find them sexually appealing.

source: http://evebitfirst.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/a-man-is-a-rape-supporter-if/

>>550326982
>it's to change the culture that let them think it's okay

What makes you think they think it's okay? Most murderers are aware than murder is morally unacceptable and the religious ones even believe they're going to hell for it; but they do it anyway.

There are very few rapists who actually think what they're doing is okay. To think rapists are victims of culture is massively problematic.

>>550327063

I can absolutely see why those types of date rapes occur.

Statistically we can also see the many other types of molestation and assaults that occur besides date rape.

>>550326547
I don't know mang...

From the fact that it's easier to pick up girls in pubs in Sweden than in the US, because for some reason Sweden men don't do that and it already sets you apart. I'd say you're at least a little castrated.

(Well, and a lot of guts. Cause your women can show no interest whatsoever and suddenly grabs your hand and say "lets go". Wtf?)

Plus the whole language thing
And toilets

Your transgenders are using the same tactics as your feminists and it's working

Maybe you don't feel it cause you grew up in it and thinks it's normal?

But of course this is me as an outsider looking in. What do I know?

>>550327362
Widely accepted? Citation encouraged.

>>550326938
those are some really good points nd i don't disagree but i need to ask then why all men being blamed for rape.

>>550323315
It's hard to admit but we are like sharks. We are predators. We are living of pure instinct.
We try to convince ourselves to be superior, but we have the very same needs of a wild animal.

Im not talking about rape, im talking about how the society is making us feel guilt about wanting to have sex with each other, or eat as much as food as we want, or do our very basic needs without harming anyone else.

We are animals, lets embrace it, why should we be ashamed?

>>550327150
Youre a fucking retard. Have you actually read an account of a rape or spoken to victims? It isnt some hurr durr whoops I raped thing. Most women fight back and are overpowered. When someone makes it clear she does NOT want it, it takes more than a little libido to rape someone. I know cause Im pretty aggressive in bed. I have insanely high libido. And Ive annoyed girls Ive dated because of how assertive I am. But when they say no I fucking stop. You dont accidentally rape someone. Thats just some drunk slut trying to save face.

>>550323315

I WOULD RAPE THE SHIT OUT OF THAT BITCH.

>>550327420
Holy shit he said something intelligent for once.

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Everyone forgets, because of their knee jerk reaction to all this feminist crap, that rape isn't about sexual pleasure.

Rape is about control and power. Uneducated people think it's about pleasure.

If it was about pleasure, there would be no rapist. Because it's easier to rub one out than to hold down a squirming shrieking person.

>>550327034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5jHfbczGOA

>>550325065
if your statement was true, how do you think society formed in the first place.

There was a time when the water didn't flow, and food was not easy to come by, and from that formed society as we now know it.

tl;dr you're an idiot

>>550323886
I chuckled.

>>550327565
100% THIS

>>550323315
that's a nice b8, the sad thing is that I agree...

>>550327659
Goddamnit ignore the analogy lol?

>>550327731

I'm with the buddhists fuck those fucking islam assholes

>>550327308

>Implying this has anything to do with the legitimate feminist movement

Do you guys have any idea how hard you're making it to be a normal man?

>>550323315

I just beat off to her boobies thinking about how hot it will be when she gets raped LOL

>>550323315
Im tellin my children to look out for cars before crossing the road AND the society tells drivers to drive carefully.

Same goes for rape. Tell ppl not to rape AND women to be careful. Period.

>>550326094
>Implying this shit is only ruining America and Sweden.
Nowhere in the developed world is safe... Nowhere. Don't ever forget that.

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>>550326982
1. No. It started as counter argument to the clothing discussion "teach us what to wear? teach them not to rape!"
and thats total bullshit. Yes, if a culture ignores or endorses rape, people are more likely to rape. However, our culture does not, and people get punished for it. conclusion? If someone ignores the sight of possible punishment, he isnt going to stop because somebody "teaches" him to control his neurotransmitters..
2.Nope. why do people look at nudes? To get statisfied, aka fucking neurotransmitter again, preparing for intercourse. And here a protip: 1 m² of clothing is not like an enchanted desexifying hotpant +1 in comparison to 20 cm² underpants (Common, dropped by people like you in H&M). Conclusion? There is a correalation between showing skin and erotic.

3. to that switching target point.. if something cant be evaded, it is completely reasonable to think "egoistic" and protect your self, even if somebody else might get hurt. Or are you proposing rape-baits, whoring on the streets to protect the weak possible rape-victims?

to 2. again, i guess you know the pic of the woman showing her boobs on a festival, then getting raped. even if thats just one example, i guess there might be a relation..

pic related quiz: are oppoturnistic rapists more likely to rape these girls? what does your penis say?

>>550327659
These buddhists arent terrorists. They are just working to create a better tomorrow.

>>550327531
then i didnt understand you proper. im no native speaker

>>550327686

It formed very slowly, it'll collapse much faster

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>>550327565
>But when they say no I fucking stop. You dont accidentally rape someone.

>>550328197

oh I know, I mentioned that, over here

>>550327790

>>550327308

It is a very real threat men need to be aware of and protect against. However unless your contention is that a vast majority of all reported rapes are false your argument still isn't leading anywhere.

>>550327858
this
the blame should obviously fall on the rapist, (I don't want u.s. to get even more fucking prudish, for one thing), but it's silly to act like some men aren't metaphorical sharks. They should be able to control themselves, but there are still bastards.

>>550327659
What is wrong with killing Muslims?

>>550327641
Just not true, sure there are cases like that, but not all.
>>550323315
This fucking kind of threads everyday, realy people.This thing you say you hate,you feed it and it feeds you. You people are just as much as the problem as bitches(meaning a girl asshole),but they probably get laid. I don't go out and argue with the crazy man on the corner, why bc it's a waist of my time and I don't want to validate him or her.

>>550326269
but you really missed the point of the picture

>>550327235
you don't get to say that anything is fake when you blame an entire gender for the actions of a few.

i can do the same damn thing and say that all women are lying about rape or that all women only get married so that they can make some money.

i'm not going to say that though because i understand how stupid it is. what i don't understand is how a feminist can say that all men are rapists and that misandry doesn't exist in the same breath and have thousands of people support that statement. unless feminists are stupid but that is another generalization. i believe that some are stupid, some are misandrist and some just want special treatment. then again there is a minority of feminists who genuinely believe in gender equality, however the very fact that the legal definition gender equality benefits women means that they are in the wrong movement so they are probably pretty stupid too.

>>550327356
>teach bank robbers not to steal
Theft is more often done out of necessity than rape.
Sure, they could maybe get a regular job, but they really need the money, contrary to a rapist who could maybe get a hooker but doesn't really need the sex.
So teaching people not to steal is a bit more difficult, because of material necessities. But even then, it actually remains a valid strategy.
There's poor people who think robbers are despisable, and there's robbers who understood after a time (maybe in jail) that stealing isn't cool. Teaching people not to steal works.

Another difference is that banks taking harsh security measures is costly, but no one really minds. People taking harsh security measures means losing a lot of their freedom.

>>550327420
>What makes you think they think it's okay?
The fact that they do it.
There's a difference between knowing that it's a crime or a sin and actually thinking that it's not okay to do it.
To think rapists aren't victims of culture is just the intellectual easy way out.

>>550328278
>tfw they don't say no and still ruin peoples lives because they were thinking it.

>>550326820
Bravo sir.

>>550328465

>Doesn't know anything about rape

kek

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>>550326820
>It was my privilege.

>>550327858
Well put. I like that analogy.

>>550328783
majority of rapes are about power and control but some of them are literally just guys who want to fuck and think the girl led them on.

those people are the reason that everyone else can't have nice things and are the ones who deserve to have their lives ruined.

This picture makes me mad. There are a lot of women who are just as bad as men associating rape with sexual intention only, I'm sure there are many cases of rape where it was solely fueled by sexual frustration but most of the victims of rape that I know were not wearing provocative clothing! It is common to be raped and not be "asking" for it. I was raped, no dangerous situation, no alcohol, no drugs, no whorish get up either.

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>>550326547

>>550328685
>Theft is more often done out of necessity
It's done out of wanting more. Nobody has to starve, be unclothed or not have a roof over their head where I live, however, some people want money to drink, do drugs etc.

One could argue sexual gratification is not a necessity, but neither is getting high.both are actions to feel good.

>>550329280
did you have support for it?
because when i was raped by a girl i had no support and feminism told me that men can't be raped and i wanted it.

that is why i hate feminism. i feel like i am justified in my hate. i did nothing wrong.

>>550329280
Post tits,

also greentext story.

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>>550323315
Hmm... A very subtle troll, master Baggins.

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>>550323315
>Still not asking for it
>Still gonna get it

>>550326000
That picture is fucking retarded, would the thought of your mother being treated like cattle sit well with you? I'd rather have feminism exist in this world than have my loved ones to turned into baby making machines.

>>550329604
>That picture is fucking retarded

Yet you have no counter argument.

>>550329498
Not all women have support, as much as society makes it look like they support the victim its not always the case. Sometimes the aftermath of coming out about being raped is being shunned by your family. I could go to a therapist sure but why would I pay someone who clearly doesn't care.
Answer to your question is nope, no support.

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>>550324696
BAM. This.

I never expected in my youth that we would end up creating a society where "personal responsibility" could be construed as "victim blaming." If you know a place is dangerous, you don't just go for a stroll there and say "my ideals mean I should be fine!" That's fucking stupid. Responsibility isn't about placing blame, it's about making smarter choices.

What these femishits are trying to do is make other people responsible. Feminism: all of the rights, none of the responsibilities and consequences.

>>550327415
wtf that woman is messed up in the head.
a man is a rape supporter if...
>he is anti-abortion
>he is pro-choice
>he watches porn with a woman in it
>he defends physical abuse of a woman on the ground of consent (bdsm)

then here is the kicker
"So, let’s see how many women reading this know at least one male over the age of 18 who does not fit this list. Anybody?"

what the fuck.

>>550329498
Btw I'm not a feminist I hate those cunts they turned a movement about empowering women into a movement about hatred for men.

>>550329876
Not being an emotionally stunted Elliot-Rodger-man-child whose capable of empathy is a counter argument enough.

Plus, women contributed to both culture and civilization, and if you think they haven't you're fucking retarded.

>>550323315
What I find annoying about this kind of picture and protest is that I agree 100% with the principle that a woman scantly dressed walking home drunk from a club is as much a victim if raped as a conservatively dressed sober woman who gets raped.

My problem is that they are being deliberately sexually provocative. Deliberately provoking a sexual reaction is mightily close to, and possibly within the realms of, what you might call "asking for it".

I don't believe there's anything that a person can do to deserve to be raped, but I do believe it is possible to step beyond the bounds of blamelessness by deliberately provoking a reaction and then claiming to be a victim when the reaction you were targeting occurs.

Normally when a rape occurs, there is one party who is 100% rapist and the other who is 100% victim.
If the woman in the picture got raped, the offender would still be 100% guilty of rape, just as if they had raped any other person. However, the woman is not 100% victim. It would depend on the exact circumstances but I'd take a stab at approximately 60% victim, 40% fucking idiot.

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>>550325948
You completely missed the point. The point is to demonstrate that you don't get a pass on being a responsible adult. If you do something that you know puts you at high risk of something bad happening to you, that's the textbook example of idiocy. Social situations of any sort do not simply boil down to clever axioms; they carry onion-like layers of dynamics.

These feminist idiots want to boil it all down to "women don't need responsibility and men should go out of their way to fill in the void created by that!"

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>>550330293
>Plus, women contributed to both culture and civilization

Sure they did, with the help of men. Like circus animals.

>>550330293

this is legit

women have done plenty of useful work for the human species, despite being less gifted physically and intellectually

gotta give credit where it's due - women have done plenty of bitch work. not to say men haven't done their fair share of bitch work either, but we tend to see the flashier work of the great men and their civilization-defining achievements and ignore the rest of the necessary (yet not very exciting) work of daily life

>>550323478
>>550323478
>>550323478

holy shit, why does everyone blindly agree with this? if humanity falls into a looting and murdering rage the moment modern society collapses, how did modern society form in the first place?

>>550329929
well i am sorry you had no support for it. i know how that feels. i hope you didn't have multiple people tell you that you wanted it because you were wet because that is exactly what i was told because i had an erection by people who are meant to be anti-rape.

>>550330181
It's a classic, but it illustrates how insane some feminazis are. That blog isnt even a troll.

>>550330513
>holy shit, why does everyone blindly agree with this?

Because this is /b/, so we're all fucking retarded.

>>550330510
>women have done plenty of useful work for the human species

That's true. Cleaning, washing, giving birth. Animals can do that too.

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Honestly, this new age wave of feminism needs to be called out for its hypocrisy.
Classifying all men in such a skewed and negative view while they preach N.A.W.A.L.T.
Making up false issues with heavily skewed statistics to support their tyrannical wet dreams while calling any detractors insensitive, ignorant, or down right awful for society.

These SJW think they know men's issues and ideology better than men
These SJW think they know black's issues better than blacks
These SJW don't realize that they are literally holding everyone back by giving them the victim card instead of stepping out into the sun and seeing the truth

Rapist are going to rape. It's a fact of life. Robbers are going to rob. Murderers are going to murder. This is not a perfect world. That's why you take measurable steps in prevents such things happening like locking your doors when you have valuables, not inciting people prone to violence, etc. Does this stop all murders? Does this stop all Robberies? No. But they make you less prone to them. Just as dressing conservatively makes you less prone than being naked when it comes to rape.

They claim independence, but they feed off the fears of weaker minds and the wallets of former husbands. Alimony is a joke. Child Support is reasonable but to easy to scam. Custody battles are a fucking joke. Abortion Rights are a fucking joke. The wage gap is a myth perpetuated by the media. Men are more prone to workplace death. Men are more prone to suicide. Men are more prone to be murdered. Men are more prone to receiving false rape reports when the numbers between men and women rape are about the same. But our privilege apparently knows no bounds because we are white and we are male. Feminism today stands on the ideals of emasculating men.

>>550330630
True, I have a team of raccoons doing my laundry right now.

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>>550330440
Anyone who could visualize Charlize Theron as a champion of rights for anyone when she lives in a gated community outside of Joburg where 5 blocks down the street Die Antwoord are making a music video....
>head shakes until it falls off

>>550330253
good. i know a few women irl who staunchly oppose the movement. i could never tell them though. my rapist gave me herpes and i've had sex twice in the 7 years since it happened. still doesn't feel good.

>>550330468
Aw, did someone get rejected because he was acting like a little pussy?

>>550329876
So you would be okay with the thought that your own mom could be giving birth every year while confined against a wall until she is unfit for her purpose and then disposed of? I hate feminism as much as the next /b/ tard but thinking that this would be a good idea is insane. Regardless on any opinion you have on women I don't think any human being should be treated like this.

>>550330630

well, no

you gonna get raccoon to wash your dishes?

cows to give birth to your sons?

women are humans, son, but they ain't men

no shame in that

don't deny them participation in the human enterprise

men have a right to "other" women, but we can't in good conscience deny them their humanity

>>550330687
>Honestly, this new age wave of feminism needs to be called out for its hypocrisy.

All feminisms were like that, even the 1st wave, hat brought us skewed courts and anti-men alimony.

>>550328029
>>550328029
>if a culture ignores or endorses rape, people are more likely to rape. However, our culture does not, and people get punished for it.
That's oversimplifying it. Most legal systems say that rape is a crime and punish it.
Culture is much more than that. Between the US, Canada and Swiss, it's not the neurotransmitters that change the crime rates.

>There is a correalation between showing skin and erotic.
But erotism and rape are loosely correlated. It's not the sexyness that provokes it most of the time, it's the vulnerability.

>if something cant be evaded, it is completely reasonable to think "egoistic" and protect your self
Rape can be reduced in a society, as proven by the difference in rape rates. It is reasonable to change the way you dress to avoid rape personally, it is unreasonable, or just plain wrong, to propose it as a solution for all women.

>the pic of the woman showing her boobs on a festival, then getting raped.
She didn't get raped, just molested. The guys around her thought they had an opportunity to touch boobs without consequences. The fact that they didn't gang rape her actually proves that it's not a matter of skin shown, but of what they thought they could get away with.
Rapists rape when they think they can get away with it, not when they see skin.
So opportunistic rapists are less likely to rape these girls, because they are three, than a single frumpy middle aged woman in a deserted parking lot. My penis doesn't talk or think, unlike a rapist.

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>>550330687
>Honestly, this new age wave of feminism needs
You know what it needs? Some good bombings at slut walks and jack-the-ripper like murders so they start acting like normal fucking people again.

>>550330793
>So you would be okay with the thought that your own mom

Are you a cunt? OPr why are you arguing moth moms?

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>>550330793
Like most great ideas, they start with the current generation. That way nobody's mama is involved.

>>550330515
I wasn't wet so there was lots of tearing and blood plus an anus is not self lubricating. I was told it was my fault still not sure why or how also I don't believed having an erection means you wanted it, someone who could say such a thing obviously doesn't understand human anatomy.

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>>550330809
>women are humans, son

They're far less human than men.

>don't deny them participation in the human enterprise

Women's main purpose is being a sex object. Only feminists want to deny women a role a sex objects.

>>550330931
Counter arguments can only be made when you're replying to an argument.

Also, it's kinda sad that you can't think for yourself and have to resort to using screencaps of other people's opinions.

>>550330838
They had some legitimate points to stand on according to facts presented during those days. They harshly overstepped their boundaries, and it has bitten men in the ass more than a couple times...but they weren't just swinging stuff blindly against a wall, hoping some statistic actually sticks to the test

>>550331137

Hmm, you still didn't give any argument.

The plot thickens: You're just a cunt.

>>550326371
>I actually would think that is the majority of rape. As in by people who don't give a fuck.
>Rather than people who just mess up.

This is correct. Some of the studies touted by the feminists themselves even prove it. The feminists think it is because society tells these people that rape is ok, instead of them being broken, fucked up people.

>>550325624

because the rape of a man by a woman is not legally recognised in many places, it's mainly brutal jail rapes. also add the 25% of female rape claims that are false, it seems like a plausible conclusion.

>>550331212
Hmmm, you still can't into reading comprehension.

The plot thins: You're just retarded.

>>550329413
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>550323315
surely this is indecent exposure and she shold be arrested or fined

>>550331176
>but they weren't just swinging stuff blindly against a wall,

They were. 1st wave was violent and physically attacked opponents.

Women's nature didn't change. Women were always the same.

>>550331126
>less human than men

So you have a perfect understanding of what it is to be human? Can you enlighten the rest of us.

>>550331126

they're no less human than men, kiddo

"human" is simply a classification, just like "cat". female and male cats are still cats.

same with humans, mate

that said, women are not men

are women's egos less essential to the civilization? probably. still no less human, though, just as sub-80 IQ men are no less human. they're just less valuable according to a certain set of metrics.

>>550330451
Whoever she is - she deserves an award.

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>>550331087
again i'm sorry you had to go through that. some men are animals. i know it isn't any consolation but i'd like to make him swallow his teeth.

>>550331392
>So you have a perfect understanding

Nobody has a perfect understanding of anything. But beaing near-worthless for civilization and culture excludes cunts from being considered human.

>>550326982
>It's to change the culture that let them think it's okay.
I'm sorry do you live in Saudi arabia?
No one in america thinks rape is okay. The only people who promote rape culture is feminist because they made the shit up and are spreading it all over america.

>>550331420
>human" is simply a classification, just like "cat". female and male cats are still cats.

...and therefore cats should have human rights?

You misunderstand the topic. The topic is not biology. On a biological level we are of course all mammals because we have legs and hair etc.

The topic is human rights. Should animals like women have human rights.

The answer is no.

>>550331494
>beaing near-worthless for civilization and culture

That's just factually wrong.

Like I said if you believe that, you're either retarded or have some deep problems.

>>550331137
That guy you're talking to is a dick, but that last post was on to something, though. Some variation of, "You just think that because you can't get laid," is the battlecry of people that want to avoid any kind of rational, civilized debate, investigation or scrutiny. Not only that, but it kind of implies that you're prepared to ignore everything bad that you see happen to others or yourself so long as you get laid. As though you're willfully kept in the dark on some subjects just because you think questioning them might lead to you not getting pussy, or simply people just thinking that you don't.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that other guy is right, because he isn't. But when he's going to be a cunt and you're just going to reply by being a cunt all you're really doing is pissing into a gigantic ocean of piss.

>>550331494

it's possible to argue all day about semantics, since at the end of the day you're operating under a hidden definition of "human"

if you'd like to be more specific, then we'll be happy to humor you

this is 4chan, after all - we're here forever. plenty of time for charity to the disabled.

>>550331126
>They're far less human than men.
Finally someone gets it! Cheers!

>>550331639
You are one hell of a fucking dumb motherfucker. Jesus Christ.

>>550330687
I don't understand why I should pay them the same wage when they:

Refuse to help carrying stuff when we need an extra hand
A danger for making false sexual harassment issue that will affect the company's cohesion and morale
Have mood swings (not all, but statistically... They do) and cramps from their period
Gets pregnant (which also affect their work)
Maternity leave
Etc
Etc

Why the fuck should I pay them the same?
Seriously

>>550331649
>That's just factually wrong.

That's not wrong. That's even true today.

Let's take for example music:
Where are the female-only jazz bands playing female-written songs on female-produced instruments?

Nearly everything cunts do they can only do because men help them.

Whatever women achieve they achieve with the help of men.

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>>550331639
i sure hope nobody new responds to this obvious troll.

>>550331639

>>550331639

i hope you understand i simply used cats as an example, and certainly wouldn't want to imply that cats are humans

that's why i classify cats, both male and female, under the category "cats" rather than "humans"

does that clear up the confusion for you?

>>550331863
>does that clear up the confusion for you?

Thank you for agreeing that considering cunts to be human is just a classification.

>>550323315
Not asking for it no...

attention whoring so that people will look at her flesh, and be 'impressed' by the 'bravery' and commitment to her 'cause'? Absolutely.

Obviously not confident that her argument and intellect alone will win out.

>>550331841
>i sure hope nobody new responds to this obvious troll.

Translation: You are afraid that the truth about cunts spreads.

>>550331365
I'm not suggesting the course of action they took was right, but I am simply acknowledging the fact that they had factual based arguments that held up. The ramification, however, have severely damaged mens' rights ever since

anyways, we're both in agreement with recent issues, and agree they hold no merit/facts...they don't have a leg to stand on.

>>550331948

of course it is - it's simply a semantic distinction

they still belong to the sub-category "female" and are as such other from "male"

that doesn't mean they're worthless, though

that only comes into play if you accept a certain definition of "human" which excludes "female", which i don't and you obviously do

it's not an argument that can be won in a logical sense, because we disagree at the level of premise

i can make you look retarded to casual observers, though

>>550332116
i guess it is possible that you are the stupidest motherfucker on 4chan but i chose to give you the benefit of the doubt.

>>550331813
I'm done. too tired to argue with retards.

>inb4 I was only pretending to be retarded

>>550331684
I like you. No energy to debate left though.

>>550326982
>Also, there's also another problem : a lot of people assume that dressing sexy or going around nude provokes rapists, and that wearing conservative clothes is a solution.

I don't think dressing is sexy clothing or nude is provoking rapists intrinsically. I do think that deliberately wearing clothing to provoke a sexual reaction is asking for a sexual response.

Sexual responses vary in a spectrum from a quick second glance right up to full blown rape.

If I deliberately insult someone because I want an argument, I am provoking a violent response. If instead of an argument I am assaulted, it's partly my own fault.

>>550332197
>they still belong to the sub-category "female" and are as such other from "male"
>that doesn't mean they're worthless, though

Nobody claimed they are worthless. They can clean and give birth, like animals. That's not worthless

>it's not an argument that can be won in a logical sense, because we disagree at the level of premise

Indeed.

>>550332197
>it's not an argument that can be won in a logical sense, because

..because this is /b/.

>>550323971
Don't tell her not to smoke - tell cigarettes not to kill!

>>550332320
>I'm done. too tired to argue with retards.

Translation: You have lost. You can not name a single female jazz band like that. Come back when you can.

>>550323315
She is, however, asking to be raped with our eyes.

>>550331791
you misunderstood. I'm not saying they should be said the same. I'm saying they are being paid the same despite what lies the feminazis are coming up with. There hasn't been a wage gap for years. Men get paid more for more work, dangerous conditions in some work places, etc. The wage gap is a myth. it doesn't exist. women get paid the same as men once you get all the outliers out of the way. Thomas sowell explains it best in this video. Also he BTFO a feminist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sGn6PdmIo

>>550332445
inb4 supreme gentlemen

I also find it incredibly sad that so many men can allow a few women who lack logic speak for the rest of us, being a victim of rape I still don't feel that all men are sexual predators or that all cases of rape are equal. Everyone adult has the responsibility of having to make adult decisions and taking sex from a woman under the influence or a woman dressed provocatively like an angry toddler is not an adult decision and as a woman I also realize I have the responsibility to make adult decisions because a lot of other adults are not capable so for me that means not putting myself in a position in which I not aware of my surroundings when there may be people I can't trust with my well being and also not drawing attention to myself from men who could over power me and hurt me. Just because we deserve our right to dress the way we want and do what we want doesn't mean the monsters of our world will agree and we are taught this as children when we are told not yo take candy from strangers.

>>550323315
I'm going to stick my dick in your pussy, and if you cum while I rape you, that proves that you like it, and that you're a rabid animal living off pure instinct. A man should be able to stick a dick up a womans pussy without her wanting to have sex with him.

All feminist rhetoric is troll rhetoric. They take everything male, and say that men should have it:
Sexual provokation - shouldn't have it.
Provokation in general - shouldn't have it.
Appreciation for boobs - shouldn't have it.
...and most of them get away with it because feminists is an organized, coordinated, tactical choir, and men are not. They can go "All sex is rape!" and men will go "Hey, what? ... That doesn't seem right. ...does it? Is it just me?" and anybody voicing any protest, is descended upon and shamed into silence.

...so you get naked trolls like the woman in the picture, who's actually no better than a nazi parading around in uniform. She's preaching hatred against men, because she's preaching hatred against male instinct.

She belongs in prison.

>>550332320
>I like you. No energy to debate left though.
That's cool. I wasn't really looking for a debate, anyway. I just like to strive for a little bit of civility wherever I can. Even in a place like this where it's almost completely hopeless. Albeit somewhat hypocritical of me. I tell people not to be an arse the same way a recovered junkie tells people not to do drugs. Not that I was ever that bad, mind you.

>>550332508
>inb4 supreme gentlemen

Lol, rodger was a misandrist. He killed twice as many men.

>>550332419

lel'd

>>550332445

i think you're forgetting that women are *fun* in a way that men simply aren't

nothing like a good submissive woman to play with verbally - it's relaxing, and it boosts the ego

if you treat women like cattle, you're not working in the interest of the public good. submissive to husbands is correct, but not treated as sub-human. women most of all are driven by the need for inclusion. if we include them in the human species, but exclude them from masculinity, then we'll be just fine.

>>550332686
Nah, he was just a poor shot.

>>550332559
Where are you from anon? Sorry to hear about your experience

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Can anyone tell me this womans name? I'm trying to verify the validity of this quote.

>>550327686
tribes gathered together to improve their life, society was formed with that intent, it doesn't work the other way around buddy, as soon as we run out of shit that we're used to our society is over and we go straight back to tribes

>>550332038
!00% asking for it. For two good reasons, one she is obviously a bitch, and two she is a feminist. Anything that happens to cancer is to good for it.

>>550332752

lal, poor shot with a knife

aimed for the sorority house down the street and nailed his roomies instead

party foul

>>550323315

Men became civilised by mastering their instincts, thus, a naked woman doesn't mean rape.

However, civilised women do their part too, by covering their sexy bodies.

What's happening in this picture is that women declare that everything is the man's responsibility. Faults and honors alike.

Doing this, feminists demonise men as a whole, and disempower women, treating them like children who have no responsibility whatsoever and shouldn't even try to help.

Rapists don't give a fuck how you're dressed or not. It makes no difference to them, but every other man, the vast majority, will have to struggle harder with their daily lives.

That's what's wrong.

>>550332764
I'm from MI and sadly when you live in murder mitten you can be rapped walking to the grocery store with your child.

>>550332932
M'yeah, he was probably just too nervous around women to kill them.

>>550332946
indeed.

in what form of logic does villifying an entire gender while absolving another of all responsibilities as individuals while also clamoring for "equal rights" demonstrate a progression that is conducive to mutual solution of a serious issue?

Isn't the radfem argument essentially boiling down to "all men are snarling wolves and all women delicate flowers" and hence buttressing the very stereotypes they claim to rally against?

>>550332932
yeah the guy hated women but he hated the guys who could get women more.
he only hated the women because they picked the guys he hated over him. i believe his point of view was formed because we have all these losers who don't want to admit that they are socially retarded and instead say that women only want rich guys instead of nice guys which is simply not true.

>>550333090

there might be something to that

killing with a knife is a more intimate act than killing with a gun

could be he was too beta to touch women even in his final moment of glorious retribution

good catch anon-kun

>>550333004
>I'm from MI and sadly when you live in murder mitten you can be rapped walking to the grocery store with your child.
>you can be rapped walking to the grocery store
>rapped

lots of rappers there I hear.

>>550332503
Yes, I understood and agree with your post. There is no wage gap.

Because you'll get in deep shit if you do that.

My question is, why the fuck not?
Statistically speaking, they are less useful in the workforce because of the points I made.

If a company is simply made of individuals doing their own thing, sure, no probs. But that's not how a company works, people interact, socialize, help each other.
If a supervisor told a guy "dude button up your shirt before you meet the client", that's fine and dandy. Say that to a female colleague, and if (IF, of course, she's a feminazi, or feeling rabid) that's a sexual harassment lawsuit right there

>>550333226

oh, i'm not saying i support the whole misogyny interpretation - i think it's shallow, fem-centric nonsense

refer to rollo for what i consider an intelligent male perspective:

http://therationalmale.com/2014/05/27/the-severing/

>>550330513
well, it was formed by people who knew how to take care of themselves

>>550333281
>3
the simple fact is... IF there's a wage gap (as they claim), MORE women would be working in the said fields than men by the way of simple economics. More people are interested in saving a whopping 25% of superfluous expenditures than hating women. You can cut a quarter of your costs simply by hiring women- so why WOULD you hire men? Bros might be before ho's, but money ALWAYS comes first in capitalism.

So what if we men do the same thing?
What if we strip naked and write "Still not asking for it." or "Still not a pervert." on our bodies?
I mean "a man should be able to walk down the street naked without women getting offended by it, or thinking he means anything sexual with it".

>>550333238
Guess he wasn't much of a supreme gentleman in the end, after all.

>sadface.webm

>>550333281
>why the fuck not?

Because as you said, not all women have those attributes. A woman with the implant (i.e. regularised hormones) who never gets married or has kids and is willing to do physical work should not be penalised simply for having a vagina.

There's no way to automatically make that judgement without discriminating. I agree those things put businesses at a disadvantage but businesses being at a disadvantage is a better state of affairs than fucking over hard working women.

>>550333250
Meh rape rap same thing different spelling

>>550333219

The worst is that women and liberals don't see it.

France: MEN decided that half the government was to be female: women and Liberals applaud it!

Are these people mentally damaged? How do you maintain credit as a woman in politics when everyone knows you got there because you had it easier?

South America didn't need any feminist to land female presidents. On the contrary, BECAUSE it's hard for a woman in that field, everyone KNOWS that political women have what it takes.

This eludes women and Liberals.

I'm tired of this shit.

>>550333596
touché

>>550333281

not disagreeing at all, but that wasn't my point in the original post. my point was all there basis and facts are misleading and false, and they honestly have no leg to stand on. they are just to ignorant/stubborn to admit that fallacy

>>550333471
because that would be probably be considered a hate speech and you would end up in jail or court.

i read a story about an overweight anon who decided to strip down into his underwear and go outside during a slutwalk on his street and they tried to have him arrested.

thankfully the cop they tried to get to do it was less than sympathetic to their cause and said that if he arrested the anon he would have no choice but to arrest them too.

unfortunately i can see that situation working out very badly very easily.

>>550333601

there's some speculation that south american telenovellas are changing cultural perceptions concerning women toward a more feminist bent

i wouldn't rule out feminist influence, or the election of women as a power play concerning foreign policy

i agree about the idea of merit, though - quotas mean lowered standards.

>>550326000
4chan the only place where you can say dis

>>550333939
you can say it on tumblr too for lulz. i think you mean 4chan, the only place people will agree with this.

So awkward reply here but a lot of femanons who have been raped in this thread. Most of you say you don't feel afraid of men, is that correct?

I'm honestly curious because while I tend to kneejerk against most modern feminist shit I'm curious how many women actually are afraid of men like in that shitty yes all women tag.

also, sorry you had to deal with what you've been through.

>>550334073

>stormfront

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>>550330513
> how did modern society form in the first place

over tens of thousands of years. and our society has changed little by little each time. his prediction isn't far from the truth.

people go all loot crazy at the drop of a hat. I will say it'd be longer than three days. but people would be raping, burglarizing, and killing the shit out of each other for micky mouse caps. because over the last 200 years we have dramatically changed and behave nothing like our predecessors ("honor and chivalry are dead" for example).

people in power would abuse it; because there would be no repercussions and people without it would have a fighting chance for it.

>>550333828

My problem is that we're removing merit from the parameters.

I don't give a fuck where you're from and what you are IF you are skilled for the job.

I don't like niggers, I don't like feminists, and I don't think much of a lot of bitches out there, HOWEVER, if you have what it takes, for real, then you're all right in my book.

You don't gain my trust by explaining to me that having a vagina entitles you to anything.

>>550330513
society formed thanks to white people
society falls thanks to niggers and nigger lovers

>>550330513

Society can form within time and favourable conditions. Tribes banded together for competitive advantages and - over time - society formed. It's not going to be a slow regression.

Think about it, a human child takes 9 months to grow in the womb and be born, but if left without heat, water and food for three days it will die. Society is the same.

>>550334171
chivalry is hollywood bullshit it never existed

>>550334171

i doubt we'd degenerate to that extent

another anon's mentioned a return to tribal forms of social organization, and i think that's correct

you'd see groups of men organize themselves to create perimeter defenses, within which other men and women would tend to the needs of everyday life (namely food, water, and shelter)

within those tribes you'd see some forms of brutality, but i doubt you'd see the kind of lawlessness some anons have envisioned - there'd be a much stronger social contract, since the survival of the group would depend on the pro-social participation of each individual

inter-tribal warfare though, now there's another question

that could be nasty

>>550334228
THIS

>>550334127
I am actually afraid of men to an extent I don't feel that its rational or justified but it is an irrational fear I can't control hard really to explain.

>>550334228

no doubt correct

governments need to start treating freedom of association as an inalienable right if we're gonna move forward

that means no more quotas, diversity hires, HR departments, the lot

i'd also like to see sex segregated education - i think boys should be educated by men

>>550333453
Fuck, at 25%.. I'm sorry bros...
A man gotta eat. And maybe get that mansion and Ferrari

>>550333524
True
Hmm... Shitty situation overall

>>550333686
Yeah, I was just using it to stem out a new discussion

>>550334501
Fair enough. Do you think this is widespread or common?

>>550334501

it's probably innate

i suspect women are largely driven by fear

after reading feminist literature, that's the common thread - most extreme in a certain subset of radical feminists who believe men are literally demons, but to a lesser extent in other branches of feminist faith

no doubt fear is the natural state of woman

>>550334171
honor is certainly not dead. feminists may have killed chivalry but they cannot touch my honor. in a collapse of society type situation, chivalry would probably make a comeback too as women would almost certainly demand that men protect them from other men.

>>550334448
not in the medieval, chivalrous knight sense but modern day chivalry (opening doors for women etc) definitely existed.

>>550323315
ugly would not rape

>>550323315
What people wear and their body language impacts people's first impression and gives a great deal of insight into that person's behavior and personality.
Even minor little trinkets, like an earring in a guy's ear for example, or standing with your arms folded, sends out massive signals to the people around him.

Now, for a woman to be at a party, drunk, and wearing skimpy clothing, and THEN say that she is not entitled to the consequences of her actions is wrong.

It's like bringing an expensive and fragile vase to a trampoline party and not expecting it to get broken.
It's like bringing a squeaky toy on a spy mission.
It's like carrying a bar of soap around in the showers in a jail.
It's like leaving your knife collection out when It's tornado season.
It's like electing Obama as president.

All terrible terrible ideas, that could have been prevented.
So when women have had the chance to dress respectably, manage their alcohol consumption, and not flirt and lead men on with perverse comments, and THEN decide that, when they're face down on a bed about to get a dick implanted into their pelvis, "hey maybe this was a poor decision."
Well no shit.
And it will forever be the fault of the man for being "unable to control himself."

Apparently feminists have never heard of the concept of "body language".

>>550334501

Maybe decades of being told men are rapists, violent, etc, helped.