The messaging app ought to come with a female-to-reality translator, so instead of reading "I am talking to Logan LeBlanc" it would read "I have been taking deep, kidney-busting dickings from Logan LeBlanc."
My guess would be that she knew/suspected that you liked her and decided to tell you she's into LeBlanc to make you lose interest/back off. That's the most common scenario I've witnessed/been a part of. It's cool, OP.
>>549021475 Not actually that long was just too lazy to mention it >banquet for sports team >was planning on staying home because of homework due midnight on a friday night seriously wtf >start getting texts as its going on from multiple said women >all say basically the same thing, I'm clearly wanted and yeah it was just the women doing this, the guys give zero fucks >tell them I can't then change my mind half an hour later and get dressed >unexpectedly arrive with perfect timing between banquet events >initiate cheering, all of said women get up and mob me I'm known as somewhat of a character on this team and since nobody had seen me for a while they were pretty excited >invited to after party, decline because of fucking homework due on a friday night SERIOUSLY WTF COCKBLOCKING TEACHER The attractive part is just because I'm in southern california, they're all attractive around here.
usually I think the whole friend-zone thing is utter bullshit. But this is pretty cold. Obviously she knows that OP wants her, and she has obviously reciprocated. Or else she wouldn't have felt the need to tell him first how "she's talking to Logan and they like each other" OP wasn't just a beta who was mad she didn't want to be more than friends. Anika obviously led him on, and when she saw a better option, threw his ass on the waiting list in case things didn't work out with this Logan fag.
Seriously though, has anyone named Logan ever not been a tool?
There's no such thing as a platonic relationship between males and females. Especially at your age.
The best way to keep your dignity would be to keep your cool and steadily begin cutting off contact with her. If you had plans with her tomorrow, fine, go, but steadily become less available to her by any means. Take a while to respond to texts, "accidentally" miss calls, whoops you're busy when she wants to do something. And for god's sake, find some new pussy.
Because if you don't, what's going to happen is that you'll be her little fag hag. She'll piss and moan to you when he forgets her birthday or wants to go out with his guy friends instead of her, but when she gets horny or bored, he'll be the one filling her snatch.
Let me just say this though: Logan is a name that makes me think of wavy haired blond polo shirt wearing douche bags. I'd probably tear my hair out if someone I cared for was fucking some vapid piece of shit named Logan. Damn, I'm slightly heated just thinking of it.
If you tell her "your true feelings" OP you're a beta fuck. You already know she doesn't like you because if she did she wouldn't have texted you that. I'd drop her as a friend and move on to the next fish. Best luck.
>>549023390 I don't know about dropping her as a friend. if you can get over the fact you'll likely never have a relationship with her that's more than friends, then having female friends is usually good. good chance to see things from their perspective, get advice on things (how to pick up other chicks), and she would have female friends you can have a run at.
>>549023375 I just want to here what I already know. I move forward by embracing what I can't have. I consider my friendship with her to be perfect and I don't necessarily to be in a relationship with her to be happy
>>549023161 OP, please don't start beta'ing There's two clear paths here. I've gone down each of them in my life. 1. You drop her from your life starting now. And set your sights on other girls. If she talks to you, be vague and distant and act like you don't give a fuck about her. 2. You confess your feelings and try to win her, or you try to wait out the friendzone. "Cause eventually she'll be over Logan then I can fuck her, right?"
nope. wrong answer. If she clearly picked another dude over you she has zero interest in you in that way. She'll get over Logan someday, you'll be there to dry her tears, then Jamal will come around, say "shit sorry bout yo breakup" then take her to pound town.
Besides, if you leave her now, when she breaks up there's a chance she'll text you out of the blue if she actually was interested enough. Then she'll see you as a man and not a friend. and maybe you'll fuck
You walk away, and you do it right this fucking instant OP. Be a man. It feels good to be a man.
I have a good friend at work I have feelings for and want to ask out or something, but it's so hard knowing which way it'll go. I know there's a decent change of her saying no, and I don't want to make our friendship and working relationship awkward.
in the past she's talked about how she just wished guys would just be her friend instead of wanting to date her or whatever. I have incredibly little experience with stuff like this so making the leap is hard enough, but it's harder knowing she doesn't like it.
wish I could just find out if she is even remotely interested in more of a relationship, but that's not how shit works.
>>549025032 I don't necessarily find it beta if I just want to remain friends and move on with life. If she wants to be with the pothead pile of human excrement then so be it. I won't feel bad for her if they get together and then break up a month later.
>>549025652 agreed these things are so simple when you aren't a beta
these bitches you all think are "one in a million" are "one of a million", they mean nothing. have a crack at them, if you get rejected then move onto the next one. pretty soon u give so little fucks that girls start being mad attracted to you coz ur now a badass who dont give a fuck
>>549026130 yeah, it's probably one of the main reasons I haven't done anything yet. and it's not like we just work at the same place or whatever, she's currently my project manager, someone I have to deal with regularly.
she's talked about leaving, if that happens it might cause me to stop being a pussy about it.
The only reason you want to stay friends is cause you think you still have a chance.
You never meet a girl and say "hey I want to be her friend"
You either want to make a girl yours, you want to fuck a girl, or you do not want a girl in your life at all.
You just want to wait out their relationship cause you think she'll come to her senses after and date you.
After you agree to be friends while Logan cuckholds you in her face, she never is gonna see you as a man again. Just some friend who might as well be gay. Trust me.
If you leave her now and don't be her friend while they are together, you could still have a chance with her down the line. If you get back into her life when she's single, she won't see you as that beta friend, and she may want you.
>>549026296 This faggot is hopeless. He is going to take nobody's advice in this thread, wallow in in misery in the friendzone and make "baww threads" and "feel threads" and "you're thinking about her/what's her name threads"
Basically OP is currently in the process of becoming worse cancer than he already is
>I don't necessarily find it beta if I just want to remain friends and move on with life
But it is. You're deluding yourself and you'll regret it, but you sound like you don't want to be convinced. So screenshot this thread and post it and update us in a few months so we can enjoy your bitter tears.
>>549022721 >I am gonna ask the real reason she told me why dumbass, its obvious. she knows you like her, shes not interested, so she made that clear, she doesnt want to lead you on. thats why, asking would be stupid. just let it go and be her friend or not.
He faced a decision that would shape what kind of a man he'd turn out to be. I tried to guide him, and steer him in the right direction. But he was far too naive. He ignored it. And I had to watch as he took his first steps in a long descent into sheepishness, mediocrity, and loneliness. It was depressing as fuck.
>>549028647 nope. no. ENABLER!!!! BETA ENABLER!! This was her saying his time is up, she found a new guy who she either likes better, or was willing to make a move and OP wasn't. If you're listening OP, a love confession now will yield no results. It's too late. If you did it yesterday I'm sure you would have made her panties wet, but now she's moved on completely, to the point where she even told you.
Leave. Stop talking to her. Stand her up if you have plans tomorrow. It's not too late
>>549030205 all evidence to the contrary from what you've said so far. But yeah that was horrible advice. It's not too late. Let me guide you OP. Leave her. Leave her and don't look back. Instead of seeing her tomorrow and letting her sit and gush about Logan and ask you which shoes you think are cuter on her, fucking stand her up. Stay home, drink some whiskey, chew some tobacco, pound your chest, sprout a beard. BE A MAN.
MEN DON'T HANG OUT WITH GIRLS THAT ANOTHER MAN GETS TO FUCK THEM AT THE END OF THE NIGHT. AND THAT GIRL WILL CEASE TO SEE YOU AS A MAN. Leave her, Opie. Trust me. Don't make the same mistakes we've all made before
SHE WANTED YOU TO MAKE A MOVE YOU BETA LITTLE SHIT
HOW COULD YOU NOT SEE THAT
THIS MAY BE THE MOST BETA A PERSON I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE
well now you gotta leave. It's too late. You had a shot after that text, but ya blew it. It was wide open. She wanted you, you coulda had her, but you pussied out. Now leave her. and find a new girl to probably end up disappointing
>>549032365 No fuck this guy, you guilt the shit out of her for sticking you in fzone, Then you fuck her like shes never been fucked before if youre man enough After that you dump her ass for being ann attention whore
He's not even one of those bitches who got told "Sorry, I think we should just be friends".
He's the even lower version who never even fucking told the girl he wanted her. And she's not even with a guy, she just told him she's talking to one.
And then drops this huge "I thought you'd have something to say", as this gaping opening that makes a crackwhore's cunt look tight, and instead of a non-shit response, we got "No, you go fuck another guy. My dick doesn't work anyway.".
If his penis had the autonomy to kill itself it would.
>>549033323 Dude, you're dropping the ball here. You can make how you feel know without being a bitch
Example "Look, I wont chase you but I like you and I'd rather you spend your time with me, but you're free to do what you like but you should be with me. If you go with him that's your choice, but I'll be around if you'd rather hang with me"
>>549033793 If this is how you feel, OP, I actually think this is solid advice. Be honest, but don't be pathetic or make an ass out of yourself. Regardless of what happens, I doubt you'll regret that course of action in the long run.
let's say you did want to date this girl. protip: you fucking graduated. guess where every fucking person worth any shit is about to go in 3 months.
if he isn't, then chances are she's going to leave him because he's a fucking NEET.
if he is, then chances are she's going to leave him because he's fucking leaving.
see how this works?
so then we get to see how much you REALLY want to date her.
>>549033345 He said he still wanted to stay friends with her.
That text basically said "fuck you and fuck your friendship".
Also see above.
>>549033596 >And then drops this huge "I thought you'd have something to say", as this gaping opening that makes a crackwhore's cunt look tight, and instead of a non-shit response, we got "No, you go fuck another guy. My dick doesn't work anyway.". I see it now.
holy fuck. shit this guy is some kind of god then. an actual fucking omega.
>If his penis had the autonomy to kill itself it would. my fucking sides
>>549033793 This is how you become even more omega then you already are.
Holy fuck. The whole lot of you are beta as fuck. Despite the fact that this dumb cunt is an attention whore you gotta pimp that bitch with your mind. Get her in the bag by making a move then fucking run a mental train on her pussy. You have to convince this twat that you're the greatest motherfucker that ever lived and she'll believe it. Girls are like dogs. They respond to a fucking leader. They're fucking dumb. Don't be a bitch and you can pull most bitches.
>>549034359 >>549034320 No you two are pathetic. I barely know the situation , but I know if he's a clingy bitch he'll push her away. are so so fucking dense you don't see what I'm saying there? And he didn't even need to use all of it.
Maybe one day you tards will see how powerful NOT CHASING WOMEN truly is, but my guess is you're both in your early 20s and you don't even understand what I'm saying.
>>549034434 You aren't saying you have no prospects, you're implying you're not worried. SIMPLE. God you guys are dense. this is basic stuff. Alphas don't need to chase and be worried if a girl likes someone else. And admittedly I did that in a rush cause I have to shower.
But I wont chase you is powerful
HURR DURR Why are you with him! He'll impregnate you! that makes you look weak and needy.
>>549034017 Thank you to the guy that got the intent of this rushed help I've done the same thing in other threads and it's worked well time and again. I suppose some of you guys worry constantly about scarcity. OMG! After she's impregnated!
>>549034724 i didn't say be clingy. i said say anything fucking else than 'ok'.
'ok' = 'go fuck yourself' in this context.
say something to peacefully end the conversation. there's no need to create unnecessary tension. then OP just stop talking to her, or just becomes a regular friend.
>Maybe one day you tards will see how powerful NOT CHASING WOMEN truly is, you fucking realize that 99.99999% of the time the male has the be the initiator right? in this case OP was supposed to respond literally ANYTHING besides 'i think it was thoughtful that you told me'.
>>549034415 >>549034415 >Girls are like dogs. They respond to a fucking leader. They're fucking dumb. Don't be a bitch and you can pull most bitches. If you're a little bitch and freak out you look pathetic. I would rather you see me and I wont chase you is powerful, cause you SHOULD have nothing to worry about.
So many talkers. I really doubt most of you know shit.
But when she says "I thought you'd have something to say" you say something like "Well, I was planning on asking you out" or any shit that isn't "Mah cock don't work" or its equivalent, as OP so eloquently put it.
There are hundred-billions of women out there, and you'll meet plenty of compatible women throughout your life. whop you end up with is a combination of fucking guts and random ass chance. don't you "but she's so special uwaah" me you pansy-ass.
that goes for all of you. 9 times out of 10 the answer to your problem is "stop giving a fuck and move on." jesus. put that angry energy into hitting the gym or ome shit and maybe next time you'll be logan leblanc, but probably not until you learn to have some courage.
>>549035521 To expand, this is one of those times this dude should give a fuck. Then afterwards bring on the not giving a fuck. You fight for a girl then you tell her to fuck off for the most part and she'll want you that much more.
>>549019382 Been there OP. Got the fuck over it, stopped talking to her, couple years later I started to talking to another girl who was far more attractive, solid 9/10, and now we've been dating for over a year. Moral of the story don't wrap up all of your self worth in one chick. Get the fuck over her, improve yourself, and find someone better.
OP if you still want this girl or if you just want the satisfaction of knowing that you made her want you follow my instructions trust me has worked for me plenty of times before.
>Step one keep the friendship >Step two take a little longer to answer texts >Step three tell her sorry was hanging with a girl >Step four hang out with large groups of girls and post made shit on social media >Step five don't be afraid to get angry with her >Step six befriend one of her closest friends and hang out with said friend one on one and let her know about it >Step seven show her how good of boyfriend you can be >Step eight don't text her or contact her till she contacts you
OP if you do all of these things perfectly without seeming phony, beta, and needy you'll get the results you want. I got a story if /b/ is interested.
>>549035989 That sounds beta. That's something a bitch would do.
OP needs to become more smooth and try to stick his dick in every girl. Fuck standards. Being standardless will make him more apt at dealing with every woman instead of waiting for the proverbial "one."
>>549036291 Not sure how beta. Is it the flirting with multiple girls and getting them all to want to chill with you. The not giving a fuck and getting angry with said girl. Making said girl jealous by using her friend. Or not talking to her until she talks to you. Which one of these things is beta? Just curious?
Sure thing, boss. You got friendzoned, because you're fucking cassanova, seduced her friend, even though you couldn't do that with the one who zoned you, proved what a fucking sweet boyfriend you are in three weeks, and had her eating from your palm.
Sounds legit. Write a fucking PUA book and make your millions.
>>549036645 That's exactly what girls do. Girls flirt with the dude's friends to try to get his attention. You're a fucking pussy. Quit aiming for one bitch and just put yourself out there for all of them. That's what a dude does.
"flirting" you should be wearing panties when you say that.
I was like you and I wish someone would have told me what to do.
Here it is.
Act like you don't know her beyond just someone you used to know a while back, but not any more.
Stop messaging her other than 1 word answers, don't call her, don't talk in public, don't look at her in public, at all.
She's dead to you know.
This thing with Joey from friends or whatever won't last and when it all falls apart she'll come crawling back to you for cuddles and sweet pick me ups about how beautiful she is and how he's missing out.
But you don't stop ignoring her.
In the mean time head over to /fit/, read the sticky, ask what you need to, eat right and get jacked.
It's really easy once you know how, not at all as hard as it seems.
Make her remember that she destroyed something that could have been amazing for her.
She disrespected you OP, now you cut her out for good.
Be the man she wishes she could have, and then show her she'll never have him.
>>549036709 One just because someone gets friendzoned doesn't mean they don't have game. Means the girl doesn't see them in a sexual way. Easiest way to change that is to make yourself seem more sexually desirable which you achieve by being around a bunch of hot girls and by making it seem like one of her close friends are into you. Both a very easily achievable. The first is easy by going to parties and other social events with drinking. Girls love taking pics while drunk. And the other is easy by just being confident with the girl and being charismatic. Two I have no fucking idea what PUA book is. Mind explaining? This is a serious question.
>>549036645 Considering the fact that this girl just sent him a text telling him that she was talking to some dude just completely contradicted your 3rd step. Only bitches try to make people jealous by hanging out with the opposite sex. Dudes do it because fuck you. Girls think about it emotionally dudes do it as a necessity to get their dick wet. You're thinking like a girl to get a girl. That might sound smart but it's the completely wrong way to go about it. You have to be a straight man and do man shit. Bitches respond more to masculinity than emotion. They want emotion from their friends and they wanted to be treated like garbage from a dude. They're fucking stupid.
>>549036998 One flirting is how you get multiple girls. Two I never go after one girl. Usually, which to my fault, while "talking" to any girl I'm either at a bar or party still trying to get more numbers or a one night stand. Three girls do it because it works. Maybe if you stopped with your "man" principles and actually started using strategy when going after girls you might find it easier. Not gonna assume you don't get any pussy because I don't know you. I will say this most guys who think flirting is for pussies usually don't.
>>549037287 That's horse shit. Surrounding yourself with girls and not being alpha makes you look like their gay best friend. You have to be cold fucking blooded and just start saying shit to them. Trying to talk them out of their panties. Girls want to feel wanted. Then tell them to go fuck themselves.
>>549037305 Exactly and that's ok. But when she's saying she's going to hang out with someone else don't act threatened. be strong. As I said, I'd rather you spend that time with me. the only reason I said don't chase is I'm saying if she announces she's doing something else you act cool about it.
I never said he shouldn't ask her out
And to the guy saying men are the initiators? You've never had a woman come up to you when you're just being yourself with your friends? I have. If she announces I'm doing something with someone else you don't go, oh no! but I must have you. or stand below her window with a boom box. you've got enough good shit going on that it shouldn't be a problem for you.
Maybe even dig at the other guy.. "Why do we go out, we'd have more fun you and I"
That's what I was trying to say with I wont chase you. you tell an on the fence girl I wont chase you and SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
I didn't realize all the details of this thread cause I just got home but don't insult me, kids.
>>549037384 I get your point about the masculinity, but in all honesty messing with girls heads by flirting with other girls and especially their friends helps a lot more then most guys realize. Girls are naturally very competitive in terms of looks and attracting men so when a guy they thought were into them shows interest in other girls it drives them crazy and jealous. Look at OP's girls for instance. When he didn't make an undying confession of love she got confused and a little upset. It's a little sad actually to see how easy it is to mess with women's heads.
>>549038003 Listening is good but you can practice a LITTLE to get over your anxiety dealing with checkout girls
Today my friend said "didn't you work here before your hair looks neat"and he slinked away...MY TURN She had mentioned her Dad didn't like it. So I said/"Yeah, but you're clearrry old enough to pick your own hair style"(she's like 19-21, I'm 30) HUGE BLUSH "well yeah, and it used to be like super like, purple, sometimes blue"
"I love that, I love all that shit, keep doing what you want cause even this short cut looks awesome" *audible panty moistening sound* "Thanks I will, it's fun right, and it's something different"
"It looks great, have a good night" "You too! " :) HUGE SMILE.
It's one little moment in time, but it helps me stay centered and calm later.
Can't be as bad as seeing the one you've loved for most of your life fall in love for a guy twice her age, stinking rich and virtually perfect. I could not even be jealous, 'cause there's no competing with that dude.
>>549038003 Check out Corey Wayne. he will give you TONS of good advice on youtube. and download his book for free. he's not a PUA, he's just a centered guy who knows how to act like a fucking man. I was with the same bitch thru my 20s so I'm just now getting back into the game and he's been a big help.
If the guy in my town I used to refer to as STUPID TYLER, who's crawling with ass burgers can get lots of pussy SO CAN YOU!
>>549031195 OP, you're an idiot. When a girl says "I thought you'd have something to say" she means "i want you to have speak up about this".
Say "Look, if you're into this guy I understand, I won't pretend to be happy about it because I have feelings about you of my own".
From there she either opens a door or she doesn't. At the very least it's been said and you can make a little distance and see if she comes to you, and if she doesn't it's probably not going to happen.
Agreeing with her like a dumb ass opinionless fool isn't going to help you either. Don't be a bitch, don't be a white knight just be honest and undramatic and see what happens.
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I'm not going to read through all this shit to see if you got the proper advice. 1. Don't be a bitch about this OP 2. Move on and go towards a new target. Like all girls she craves attention. Even if she doesn't want to date you, she will still get annoyed that you aren't talking to her as much or becoming more distant. 3. Now, she either cares enough to confront you or she doesn't. If the first part is the case then you won. If not then move on and don't look back.
If you go against any advice that says move on then you are confirmed for beta faggot.
Nah ignore these fuckers telling you otherwise, you did good. no needy bullshit, no "waah why won't you be with ME I'm your one and only" bullshit you kept your cool, polite, didn't rise to it. She's got someone else, you dealt with it maturely and didn't freak out. Find other women. She's got someone else, that's the end of that, just suck it up and move on.
>>549039858 I didn't say I need to I suggested it for those getting over the hump you judgmental piece of shit. I've taken it and talked to everyone with ease, I've used it to enhance writing music, or even dealing with the anxiety post breakup. Maybe instead of making a stupid comment you should have learned more about it.
There's nothing wrong with enhancing your life with drugs, especially smart drugs used by the Russian space program you fucking pleb.
okay I've never given advice on /b/ but don't wait around for her. you can't make her love you and she can't make herself love you. if she doesn't subtribe wise will. wish her well and peace the fuck out.
Fuck her . Sounds like the thing a cam whore did to my friend . You should skype with us watch u get stoner and we can discuss books and video games and drugs and shit and ill love you. Plus I'm not that bad looking .
>>549040967 You're welcome. it's helped me a lot and I don't even have social anxiety...but I'm still going to take it before big parties , I'm an introvert most of the time but I can get loud, funny, and extroverted.
Still, why not try and help those struggling. >>549039858
"If you need drugs to talk to girls-hurr hurr"
What is a party? People getting drunk and high the grease the social wheels.
>>549032193 hey see you little shit, you understand NOTHING. girls this age need to feel reassured so bad they will always try to attract you to them, once they know you are seduced, they feel loved and forget their insecurities and it doesn't matter if they hurt your feelings or not. That's also why many always ask the question "do you think i got fatter" or declare "i'm fat" when they are not, for the only purpose of you telling them she's beautiful (because "you're not" is not the good answer unless you are a retard). Best choice for OP is not to reveal his feeling, thus, not behaving like this kind of faggot he seems to be. OR maybe she really sees OP as a friend, and then it would be nice and even mandatory to comment this revelation, or to give an advice, or not to be such beta shit.
>>549026296 You say that now. I'm telling you, like everyone else in this thread, it ain't gonna work. First of all, when she dropped that "OMG I want Logan's dick in me right now" in the middle of a conversation, it was like a giant fuck you. Now if you act like a little bitch and stick around as her friend, not only is she not going to respect you, but you're going to lose respect for yourself.
I know it fucking sucks man, but believe you me, there are other women out there. You just graduated, you literally have your whole life ahead of you to find someone who is going to respect you.
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