/wwe/ General #1717

Roman Reigns fucking sucks

>>860074
PLEASE have sex

>>860074

I hope you meet a nice girl this year

The bump limit is not 300.

>>860083
My mistake. What is the bump limit?

Bryan winning WM30's main event was WWE's biggest mistake.

>>860085
It's the same number of dicks your mother has taken.

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>yfw it's another RAW when Roman stands tall and looks strong after the main event

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/CorbinClub/ W W @ ?

>>860083
Yes it is you mong

>>860088
If that was the case, the last threads would have lasted much longer

>>860090
You're about to be called a virgin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmGDF6dt8DQ

Reigns sucks and here's why.

>>860093
It's 310.

>>860097
Really? Why?

Why didn't you watch Wrestle Kingdom 10?

>28 writers
>can't write two RAWs in a row that make sense

>>860101
Please explain how the last raw didn't make sense

>>860100
I did

>>860086

Agreed.

Big Dave deserved to go over with WALK FOR MILES closing out the show.

Anyone else miss the hurricane?
>implying his skit with Hollywood rock wasn't the goat

>>860102
Vince continuing to keep Reigns as champion instead of just stripping him and firing him for punching him.
There was a reason with Austin, he was the cashcow and Vince had to try and control him instead of just firing him, but Reigns isn't that, so why does he keep being given title shots instead of just being fired?

>>860100

Cause sleeping is more important than Japanese wrestling.

>>860107
Because the Samoan Mafia will murder him. It's pretty obvious

>>860102
>happy New Years! X100

>>860106

10 years from now kids today will be saying, "Anyone miss Heath Slater? I miss his skit with Titus O'neil"

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELL

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>>860112
Thanks for msking me feel old, anon
>tfw 23 is too old to be browsing le 4chainz

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>>860070
>can't do shit for dick with a microphone
>has less moves than smarks claim John Cena has
>only able to get over when there's literally no star power around and Vince himself comes back on TV
>people believe he can carry the company for the next decade

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>tfw the night is stretching out before me and I am dreading another night where the /asp/ raw thread is bombarded by
>#bring back hulk hogan
>and the mods don't do anything despite reporting the posts everytime I see one through the entire night

I feel like the protagonist of a lovecraft novel

>>860092
He looks like a train wreck desu
>Gelatinous body
>Balding
>Methods of time measurement as fucking tattoos
Put an egg timer on there somewhere aswell

>>860117
>angry wwe marks incoming

>>860107
Because he wants people to believe Roman is the cashcow.

>>860119
That would be a great line in a promo

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>>860117

>Roman sucks and has 3 moves maymay

Do smarks never tire?

>>860125
you ever tire of choking on vinces dick?

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>>860121
>>860125

Styles v nakamura was great

>>860125
That move was added not long ago
besides he only has
>samoan drop
>flying lariant/clothesline
>superman punch
>spear
>apron dropkick
>hair whip
>OOOOOOOOOOOOAH shout
>retarded fist cocking and hitting the mat

>>860125
these are the same fags that say cena only has 5 moves but mark out for bryan and his million kicks and armbars

>>860131
You are literally retarded.

>>860128
Who?

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>>860129
Don't forget the wink
>inb4 he attempts to use it as his variant of the peoples eyebrow

>>860131
>cena only has 5 moves
Who says this since like 2007? It's his five moves of doom sequence that disregards everything in the match prior that pisses everyone off.

>>860135
>forgetting *mild pop for JoJo*
literally his signature move

>>860133
Elaborate.

>>860135
d-d-d-deglare...declare...

>>860125
Do fanboys ever get tired of whiteknighting dogshit?

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>>860139

>>860138
You don't understand any of the criticisms, then you just mash them together and attribute them to hypothetical people.

>>860127

Ahh the wootist madman with his 100x100 gifs responds

>>860140
u-u-ur a nerd....

>>860140

Do smarks ever get tired of hating on Reigns? It's unbelievable how this dude works up basement dwelling neckbeards by just existing.

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>>860141
This never gets old

>>860144
You should probably put on your thick, thick glasses, because that says 410x230, not 100x100.

>>860146
Jaded fags will always act that way towards people who are successful.

>>860145
>>860146

>>860126

>Romin has 3 moves
>Gets proven wrong
>Y-y-you're choking on Vince's dick

Wew lad. Try some objectivity.

>>860146
Only basement dweller getting riled up is you brah. Nice projecting too by the way.

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>Punk wants to do MMA but has been "training" for over a year while he hasn't been sidelined with "injuries"
>Ryback wanted to do MMA and had an MMA fight and won


>Punk wants to act but quit when a proposed WWE Studio production fell through
>Ryback wanted to act so did a shit indy flick then moved on to a Marvel Studios blockbuster and then Jame Bond


>Punk wanted to be in a Wrestlemania main event but quit when he star started to fall, he also failed to ever have a great/memorable WM match
>Ryback wrestled in the main event of Wrestlemania and stole the show half way down the card


>Punk wanted to be THE guy
>Ryback was THE guy

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Mods are asleep, post Lesnar

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>>860141
I will never understand what he was trying to convey with that expression.

>>860146
>Calling out Roman's inconsistencies is regarded as hate

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>>860145
>>860146
kek

>Transport 2015 wootist smarks to 2002
>Brock debuts
>2015 wootist smarks who watch NJPW says he's a roid monkey and shouldn't be beating The Rock clean because he hasn't paid his dues in outraw peruwresringu wrestling in front of 20 people.
>Actively campaigns for Lance Storm to be the new face of the company
>Actively hates on anything Brock does because he looks better than they ever will and accomplished more.

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>>860153
Why did you just change Batista into Ryback when it makes absolutely no sense

Wrestling is the hobby of rednecks and nerds. Don't try to be elitist about it one way or the other.

>>860157
Actually they loved Brock in 2002. Go back and watch Summerslam 2002, the Rock is booed and Lesnar cheered.
If you're attempting to claim Brock = Roman then
pfffffffffffffffffttttttttttttt

>>860129
Suplex, German suplex, belly to belly suplex, fisherman suplex, suicide dive, headscissors takedown, I'm almost certain he's done more too. Almost everyone in WWE has a shit moveset.

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>>860158
Because Ryback is dogshit

>>860162
I doubt there's anyone who can't do a suplex in the WWE right now so I wouldn't really count it as -everyone- has it

>>860100
4 hours is too much on the same day I have to watch Raw. I have the torrent, I'll probably save it till friday or something.

>>860159
At least I'm not a man drama cuck with battered housewife syndrome.

>>860117
Even JR pointed out Reigns' matches are getting repetitive and over-relying on the super manpunch and spear, and the same late match set-up.

>>860160

Yes because fans from 2002 weren't retarded like the ones of today.

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>>860159
I'm not smart enough to be a nerd and live in Pittsburgh

>>860170
Ok son.

>>860162
>headscissors takedown
post proof

>>860173

You're saying that if Brock debuted today and got the huge protection he had going over established guys clean you'd all cheer him on?

Nah you're retarded. Reigns was in a stable for 2 years before becoming champ, Brock became champ in 4 months and was an even worse wrestler with how much he used to botch. Fans from back then gave him a chance. The stupid fans of today are stubborn and idiotic and think that *only* the guys they like deserve to be pushed.

That's what's led to the last 2 rumbles being such disasters.

Was the "Show Stopper" the Big Show's nickname or name of his chokeslam?

>>860100
We're not all weebs bro.

>>860178
If he performed as he did in 2002, with Heyman managing, absolutely he would.
You keep trying to make them equivalent, but Reigns is not Brock, and he never will be.

>>860178
Fans that want to see things they like?
WHAT A NOVEL CONCEPT.

>>860179
The only show stopper was hbk

18+

>>860157
So in 1997 when Rocky Maivia was being superpushed and absolutely rejected were you in a newsgroup complaining about the crowd "hijacking the show"?

>>860181

Are you underage? Of course he's not Brock but the driving reason most smarks hate him is "HES GETTING SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS" while Brock got an even more forceful push than literally anyone else ever got in this entire industry. WWE champ within 4 months of his debut while he was still green and dropping people on their heads during matches. Going over Taker clean at Hell in a cell.

Maybe this all makes no sense to you cause you weren't born at the time.


>>860182

>Fans want to control the show they watch

Literally a tumblr shipper with pink hair tier.

>>860179
It was the name of his chokeslam for a time
>>860183
Irony.

>>860179
a nickname for his chokeslam as well as that legdrop type finisher he used briefly in ECW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzBgS_hfssY
>It's a Roman and Sheamus talk episode

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>>860131
>these are the same fags that say cena only has 5 moves but mark out for bryan and his million kicks and armbars
Bryan has a bigger moveset than Reigns and Cena combined

>>860100
Because its overrated trash. Why the fuck does it have crescendo's where they just nosell everything and do some ridiculously crazy moves?

>>860179
>tfw watching 90's Beeg
>solid physique
>nice look
>long hair
>agile as fuck even though he was quite beeg
>not even that slow
feels weird man

>>860178
>it's the fans' fault the last 2 rumbles were shit

Sure, its our fault. Has absolutely nothing to do with them veritable jobber parades. Or nothing to do with the fact that both winners would have lead to garbage main events.

>>860191
>Reign's moveset
Jesus Christ. There are divas with more variety.

>>860186
>Of course he's not Brock but the driving reason most smarks hate him is "HES GETTING SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS"
No the reason people hate him is because he has no talent and no charisma.

>>860198
Most wrestlers in WWE don't have charisma right now. Really only Ambrose, Cena, Owens and some others

>>860191
>BMJ has twice as many moves as Ramen
>Bryan has twice as many as BMJ

Absolutely BTFO

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>>860193
>tfw he could do a moonsault back in the day
>nobody ever caught it on tape

>>860186
No, it's because he's shit.

>>860200
Yeah but even if they don't have charisma they have talent.

Reigns has neither. If he had either talent or charisma then smarks could get behind him. But he's just such a green guy in the ring and dull on the mic.

>>860186
Brock was way more believable as a powerhouse when he debuted than Reigns now

>>860198

No I'm pretty sure you hate him cause he's being pushed hard when you're underage trash who don't know what it really means to have someone get an in your face push.

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>>860191
>A main event star with half the moves as Cena

>>860206
No, it's because he's shit.

>>860205
>Brock was way more believable as a powerhouse

>Now they want to talk about "believability" when he cheers on guys like Kevin Owens

>>860208

He isn't shit, he just doesn't do stupid monkey flips which is what makes neckbeard fans wet themselves.

>>860209
>suddenly changes the entire subject and brings up something completely unrelated

>>860209
I don't cheer on KO at all as I don't really like him (though I have to say he's a top lad) because I don't like watching fat asses in the ring

And yeah Brock was way more powerful around 2003 than Reigns is now

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>>860193
A little bit of the old Beeg lives on.

>>860206
Benoit yourself stupid fucking romark. Why do we have to repeat ourselves when someone says it pretty fucking clear?

>>860211
No, he is shit.

>>860186
Brock had it.
When I first saw Brock you just knew he was the next big thing.
He had his hecklers though, he even got goldberg chants.
I like ramen though, but you can't compare them.
Brock is a physical specimen and that came across in the ring when you watched him.
Roman is nowhere near even 2002 brocks level.

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>>860211
>uhhhhh only NERDS like flips!!! that'll show em...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6A1ca0m7Ec

>>860212

You're the one who conveniently brought up believability into this and now you want to drop it.

>>860193
>tfw when we'll never see a human tank do a drop kick or Kip up again

>>860218
It's all about presence which Roman has very little of.

>>860191
That list is dumb.
Other than the fact that in wwe, guys are restricted to around 12 different moves max in a match, they put general shit like belly to bellys that everyone including cena does but only on bryans list.

>>860219
Rey around 2005/6 was fucking roided up

>>860216

>Benoit yourself

Wew got the wootist mad.

>>860193

Anyone who was sentient in the 90's knows how cool Beeg was.

>>860220
What happened to Daren Young?

>>860222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0j3vrnq2EQ
based Beeg

>>860224
Cena's belly to belly is on there though.

>>860186
Brock had incredible physical intensity and ability when he debuted, way beyond the rest of the roster, and a brilliant manager from the get go. Even then he had his detractors at first, but he was special the moment he appeared. By Summerslam he was cheered over the Rock, in New York.

Roman is not special. He's not even very good after three years on the main roster. If he was less rubbish he wouldn't have had this backlash.
You want to keep trying to blame everything and everyone but Roman, but he's the problem. He's just no good. He has a look, and nothing behind it.

>>860224
I can't remember the last time Cena did a belly to belly, belly to back maybe.

>>860226
Your point is...what?

>>860236
My point is despite being a manlet he wasn't that small
unlike some other vanilla midgets

>>860237
What the fuck has this got to do with anything?

>>860231
Yeah my bad didn't see that.
My point still stands though that in a wwe match, bryan does not perform more than 12 - 15 moves max, usually less than that.
It's simply WWEs style to keep the amount of moves a superstar does small, probably for 2 reasons.
1. so every match features different moves and they dont all look like the same match (like your typical outlel match)
2. safety, less moves they do, the better they're at performing them, the less chance of injuries
Yet still we get too many superkicks and germans in my opinion, probably to appease smarks.

>>860238
stop replying to my posts unless you have something to contribute

>>860238
>Everything must be on topic

>>860239
The difference is Bryan has years of 20-40 minute matches to look at.

>>860232

>This revisionism

I'm sure you all marvel at how much of a physical specimen Braun Strowman is.

>By Summerslam he was cheered over the Rock, in New York.

Yes cause fans back then weren't retarded and didn't try to actively sabotage by printing out signs or starting meme chants like "WE ARE AWESOME"

My point is that if Brock debuted today and got the push he got, you'd all hate his guts. There were kiddies who even got upset that he broke the streak. You don't even like Ryback.

>>860240
Says the guy who can't even lay down what he is supposed to arguing.
>nerds don't like Reigns because he doesn't do flips!
>Rey Mysterio is one of the top stars among kids WWE have ever had, flips are hardly "only for nerds"
>Well Mysterio got on roids to get more muscular in WWE!
Can you see the disconnect?

>>860243
Your post seems to confuse me, what the fuck does Ryback have to do with any of that

>>860239
Dbry has room for variety during each match, it's not often that he performs the exact same moves as he did in the previous match he had. That's why Cena and Roman get heat you know exactly what's coming up

>>860243
>resorting to this "fans were different cos that supports my argument if they were" shit again

>>860245
stop replying

>>860245
Didn't look like he was arguing m8, just a spot of trivia

>>860243
>I'm sure you all marvel at how much of a physical specimen Braun Strowman is.
But he really isn't. He's just a big boring guy with no ability, and he's not big enough compared to Harper to stand out on that alone.

>>860206
No, I'm pretty sure its because he's shit you god damn autist.

I've seen NXT divas with a bigger moveset than him.

And his promos aren't just bad, they're "The crowd is chanting CM Punk" bad. Everytime he has to hold a mic, he spews spaghetti everywhere.

He's only getting pushed because muh looks and muh nepotism.

>>860247
Every face Bryan match is exactly the same

>>860247
True, at least cena has been trying the past few years though.
I'm pretty sure WWE would rather he just stick to a few safe moves since he's the franchise.
Roman has to step it up though, put him in more no dq matches until then to make up for it.

>>860221
No, you moron, you're the one who randomly brought Kevin Owens for no reason, even though we are talking about Roman Reigns and Brock Lesnar.

>>860243
>comparing Ryback to Brock
>comparing Braun to Brock
wow

>>860237
>>860249
>>860240
>>860211
>>860206
The state of Romarks.

>>860259
I'm not even a reigns fan you fucking mongoloid, what the fuck are you talking about

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>this autistic argument

At least we can all agree that Nakamura is better than both Brock and Roman, right?

>>860255
Since the first neck injury, yeah.
If Bryan were to return, don't expect him to throw many more moves than cena does.
He will probably just do his sigs and a meme submission here and there.

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>>860255

>>860255
Every face vs heel WWE match is the same template.

>>860254

>Maybe if I respond 5 times in a row saying the same thing he'll reply to me

Here's a pity (you)

>>860261
Yes.

>>860261
Brock is a million times better than any vanilla midget in the world

>>860257

Because you're the idiot who started talking about believability you damn retard.

If we want to talk about believability then Kevin Owens isn't a monster heel.

Dumbass.

>>860243
Because Ryback is considerably more shit than Brock.

>>860268
Brock fears Nakamura

>>860264
Every tag team match is literally the same.

>>860268
>Vanilla midget
>he's the same height as Brock and more charismatic

>>860249
>gets called out because of his back tracking
>stop replying

Roman marks confirmed underage.

>>860246
>what the fuck does Ryback have to do with any of that

The fact that Ryback debuted as a monster who kept crushing jobbers and now you all hate him, and if Brock debuted today he'd literally be Ryback 2.0 cause smarks would boo the shit out of him, even worse if he debuted without Heyman and he was told to cut a 10 minute promo at the beginning of RAW.

>>860100
Because i have had sex

>>860269
Kevin Owens isn't a monster heel on RAW, so this is a moot point.
Once again, we are not talking about Kevin Owens, we are talking about Roman Reigns and Brock Lesnar. Bringing up Owens does not make Reigns any better in relation to 2002 Brock, it just makes it look like you're dodging the facts.

>>860269
>Kevin Owens isn't a monster heel
You're absolutely crazy, no one thinks he is or is turning into one.

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>>860278
>seriously comparing Ryback to Brock
nigga can't even lift people up for his shellshock, give me a break

>>860266
Name one unique trait that makes Roman FOTC material.

>>860118
> muh lovecraft
The memeiest trash of all meme writers

>>860266
It's not the same person, Roman is just shit.

>>860285
TOO MANY MEMES
TOO MANY MEMES
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

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>>860278
>Ryback=Brock

Not even close.

>>860261
> better than Brock
Lol

Nakameme looks like a homeless aids victim that i could beat up with just my left

>>860278
>The fact that Ryback debuted as a monster who kept crushing jobbers and now you all hate him
Because Ryback is not Brock, and he is not Goldberg, and he never will be.

Jinder Mahal got a "foreign heel with the camel clutch" gimmick too, does that mean he was the equal of Rusev doing the same thing?
No, because Rusev is way better than fuckin Jinder Mahal

Anti-smarks are literally getting BTFO left and right.

>>860292
Where?

>>860289
so why aren't you a pro wrestler?

>>860240
>gets his shoddy claims blown out
>uhhhh shut up, stop replying or else!

>>860294
/wwe/ General #1717, BIG DOG Edition

>>860289
He has a legit MMA record. He would likely destroy your fat ass.

>>860280
>we are talking about Roman Reigns and Brock Lesnar

Yes and I'm saying if Brock debuted today and became champ in 4 months, the internet smarks of today would boo the shit out of him.
Lucky for Brock he debuted at a time when the roster was stacked full of great wrestlers like Eddie and Kurt, and he got someone to speak for him. Reigns has had to work with beyond past it Big Show and he even got out a decent match out of him.

The only wrestlers that smarks approve of today are the ones who have been toiling around in the indies for at least 10 years because they've gotten some kind of attachment to them.

Dean Ambrose hasn't had a good match in months, in fact the only good matches he's had have been with Rollins, *constantly* botches week in and week out, and he doesn't get nearly half the hate that Roman gets. And smarks will let him off the hook cause "yo bro you see that moxley promo on youtube pham?"

>w-w-why are you talking about Dean Ambrose

It's an example to prove my point. You know what those are right? You're going to shift the post and talk about believability when in essence no one could believably beat Brock unless they were a trained MMA fighter.

>in b4 a meme reply cause you have nothing to say other than shitpost

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>People comparing Brock to Roman on a serious level
What happened /wwe/?

>>860284
muh look

>>860295
Because by the time i started caring about wrestling again after outgrowing it at 12 i was 26 with a decent paying job and a family

>>860302
Your family life must be terrible that you have to come here and argue with literal children for hours on end

>>860299
If Brock debuted today after going through NXT like he went through OVW we would cheer him on.

>>860295
There are much better ways to make money than working some outlaw promotions. Also has the benefit of not dying at the age of 50.

>>860299
>>Yes and I'm saying if Brock debuted today and became champ in 4 months, the internet smarks of today would boo the shit out of him.
That would depend entirely on how he was presented, how he performed, and who he was performing against.
You can't just blanket hypothetical and expect them to be taken seriously.

Dean Ambrose doesn't get hate because he's a directionless midcarder, not the guy rammed down everyone's throats as the FOTC. I don't criticize his promos because he doesn't get promos. I've seen promos of his previously that indicate he can do great ones, but again, he doesn't get promos.

>The only wrestlers that smarks approve of today are the ones who have been toiling around in the indies for at least 10 years because they've gotten some kind of attachment to them.
Chad Gable.

>>860300
Seems you started getting rused to easily

>>860298
Whats his record and what weight was he fighting at?
I would crush the tubby gook fuck anyday of the week 2bh

>>860304

>we

lmao, and no you wouldn't.

>Comparing NXT to OVW

This is how you out yourself as underage.

>>860299
>Lucky for Brock he debuted at a time when the roster was stacked full of great wrestlers like Eddie and Kurt, and he got someone to speak for him
Brock IS a great wrestler you tard. That was most of his appeal, he could do it all, other than talk, and then, he had Heyman for that.

>>860309
>This is how you out yourself as underage.
Let me guess, you are going to pretend you watched OVW back in the day right?

>>860308
it must be an elaborate ruse if it's all you guys are talking about
or the fact that it's a serious comparison

>>860303
Actually newfriend this general had one of if not the highest average ages on spee and pretty sure it still has on the monster-chugging lolweedplank and nerf gun board
The vast majority of /wwe/ was mid to late twenties and early 30s the last time we had a census

>>860260
>romarks

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>Romarks unironically comparing Ramen to Brock

>>860314
I'm sure those strawpolls are 100% accurate. No one would ever lie in them

>>860310
>Brock IS a great wrestler you tard.

He *wasn't* a great wrestler when he debuted. Far from it, and you cannot convince me that you were alive at that time if you'd classify 2002-2003 Brock as a "great wrestler." He did power moves and half the time he'd do them wrong.

>He could do it all

My sides! If he wasn't wrestling Eddie or Kurt, the match ranged from mediocre to a disaster.

>>860312
Eh i automatically skim past any post that contains the word Roman m

>>860320
2002, he was green. 2003, no, he was great by 2003.

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>>860311

>If Brock went through NXT, we'd cheer him over Finn Balor

The lies smarks tell themselves.

>>860320
>My sides! If he wasn't wrestling Eddie or Kurt, the match ranged from mediocre to a disaster.
No.

>>860323
They don't even cheer for half of the NXT callups

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>>860323
> cheering Finn Baloring
Fuck off back to /wew/

>>860323
Why is everything "over" others? Crowds can and do cheer more than one person you know.
If you actually think 2002 Brock dropped in NXT with Paul Heyman wouldn't be absolutely beloved, you're retarded.

>>860326

>Reading comprehension

>>860323
Why do you keep bringing up completely unrelated people and trying to change the subject?

>>860327
>with Paul Heyman

What would Paul Heyman be doing in NXT? I like that you have to add this stipulation of with Paul Heyman, because if you take away Paul, Brock becomes utterly stale.

>>860323
>bringing up vanilla midgets out of the blue

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>the state of this buttblasted Romark faggot

>>860324

Oh my bad pham, forgot how great his match with Goldberg was.

>>860320
>If he wasn't wrestling Eddie or Kurt, the match ranged from mediocre to a disaster.
The matches he had with Cena and Taker back then were GOAT

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>>860329
>>860323
>Balor fan

>>860331
Not in NXT, he doesn't, because Brock would stand out on his own there. I'm including Heyman because you seem determined to believe that 2002 Brock transplanted to 2016 wouldn't be popular.

>>860300
>>860317
>>860333

I don't think you're samefagging hard enough.

>>860334
>resorts to the worst match possible to "prove" all his matches were bad
Man that Undertaker must suck, look at this shit match with Giant Gonzales.

>>860338
Only the Austin one is mine senpai

>>860335
>The matches he had with Cena and Taker back then were GOAT

Yes cause blood and chair shots to the head were still allowed.

>>860338
I'm afraid there is no samefagging happening there, I only posted ADR being revolted by your shit taste.

>>860342
Blood and chair shots does not turn a mediocre match into A+

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>>860342

>>860320
> !
You dont belong here

>>860342
There was no blood or chairshots in his Cena matches.

>>860320
>>860299
Judging by what you post, the one person I can guarantee would be booing 2002 Brock transported to 2016 is you, not "da smarks!".

>220 replies
>25 posters
>thread is mostly one big argument
This has to be a new low

>>860350
Hang on, you are angered that the WWE discussion thread has WWE discussion in it?

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> no more flag bants
Just think /wwe/
You could be unironically wasting your time trying to have a discussion and wasting serious thought-out replies on an americunt without even knowing it

>>860155

I hate him for never selling anything. I can't blame Vince to try forcing Roman as the face tho he doesn't have much choice.

>>860349
Either Lesnar didn't sign his autograph for him or he was one of Roman's make-a-wish clients

>>860351
I miss the outlaw discussion desu

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>>860352
>tfw

>>860337
>2002 Brock transplanted to 2016 wouldn't be popular.

He'd be popular with marks but not smarks. Who do smarks like that isn't a former indie darling? WWE can't produce talent anymore who will get their own traction without some smark out there criticizing him.

>Brock debuts without Paul
>Green in the ring (Broke Hardcore Holly's neck during a match)
>Can't talk, let alone cut a 15 min promo
>Has to work with Ryback, past it Big Show, and Miz (who can talk but not wrestle to save his life)
>Title picture within months of debuting

>We'd totally cheer him on!

Brock would quit in under a year and we'd never hear from him again if we were to judge him from his first year alone with today's idiotic fans.

And for those of you who didn't get past 5th grade reading, I'm not comparing Roman to Brock, I'm comparing the circumstances they both had to deal with and how Reigns only became champ 3 years after his debut and Brock became champ within 4 months. Fans from 2002 cheered Brock on, a totally new guy over an established veteran, while fans in 2016 only want their chosen few to succeed.

No one is yet to disprove all these things other than to meme reply and misrepresent what I'm saying with "lmao romark comparing roman to bork" when there's not a human being alive that can be likened to Brock.

>>860349

I wouldn't boo Brock cause I'm not an idiotic smark like yourself who reads dirtsheets and listens to wrestling podcasts hosted by fellow neckbeards.

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>>860357
>Who do smarks like that isn't a former indie darling?

>>860357
>Who do smarks like that isn't a former indie darling?
Enzo Amore. Bayley. Chad Gable. Rusev.

>>860357
> inb4 some bonehead says it was holly's fault

>>860361

>Bayley

Had to really dig deep there didn't you?

>>860359
>keeps going on about how Brock was no good
>brings up "wrestling podcasts" as proof that he wouldn't boo this person he apparently doesn't even like
BACK TO THE TRACKING

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>>860352
Staying up till 4 to catch raw tonight nigel?
Get a job you fucking neet loser.

>>860363
Considering the E barely creates any good talent of their own anymore i'd say he made a good list

>>860363
Yes, the top female star on NXT, how incredibly deep that was dug from.

>>860362
It was, he sandbagged him.

>>860364
>>keeps going on about how Brock was no good

I love Brock, he's in my top 10 of all time, but he wasn't good in 2002. You're an idiot, and possibly underage if you think he was. Tell mommy to buy you the wwe network and go see his matches from then.

REMINDER:
Vince Russo needs to be back in WWE to save it.

>>860363
>SMARKS ONLY LIKE INDIE DARLINGS
>How about these people?
>THEY DON'T COUNT FOR SOME REASON

>>860359
>BTFO so he resorts to "ur a nerd" yet again
Romark is a retard.

>>860372

>Has to list divas to statpad his list

Wootists are hilarious. You're the wootists who get banned, so you're pretty much the bottom of the barrel in terms of that awful forum.

Oh shit, Paige is injured!

https://youtu.be/hCEvyq4TZ70

Is Dolph Ziggler still relevant? Literally the only talented guy on the roster desu senpai

>>860370
He was good in 2002 by the mid point of the year, and he was great in 2003. You're just a pathetic mark for Reigns trying to cling to his retarded hypothesis.

>>860374

>Makes a completely false claim because he has the reading comprehension of a 2nd grader
>Gets proven wrong
>Shitposts

The only retard here is you.

>>860375
I like how you haven't addressed any of the names given yet, just tried to pretend they don't count.
If anything that they are cheering a female kiddy character is blowing your "dey only liek flippy indie darlings" argument out even further.

>>860377
B8

>>860378

Like I said, go tag your mommy's skirt and ask her to buy you the WWE network so you can find good Brock matches from 2002.

Adults are talking.

>>860379
You just wrote all that to go "no u". How wasteful.

>>860368
Bonehead detected
Go read a book, specifically his

And even if he did get sandbagged, which he didnt, you still dont throw another human being and work colleague right onto their fucking neck

>>860357
Why would 2002 Brock debut like that on RAW? He would be in NXT if he came to WWE in 2016.

>>860382
Legit, he's the best seller in the company by far right now, and is decent on the mic, which puts him above everyone but the new day right now senpai

>>860375
>divas
He listed one, I can add Bray, Ziggler and Breeze to that list if you like

>>860383
>didn't work first time
>better call him a kid again
Brock had the best HIAC of all time with Taker in 2002, but I'm sure you will make excuses again.

>>860380

>I like how you haven't addressed any of the names given yet

>Enzo Amore
Can't wrestle. He's Scotty 2 Hotty 2.0 who can talk.
>Chad Gable
Has Olympic wrestling experience, expected to be good unlike Swagger
>Rusev
He did wrestle in the indies, albeit more obscure ones while training with Rikishi

So yeah that's your list. Three people out of 100+. Barely even 1% of the current roster.

>>860362
Holly doesn't blame Brock, so why should I?

>>860383

Title match vs The Rock SummerSlam 2002
HIAC vs Undertaker No Mercy 2002

>>860390

You mean he is the only guy overselling everything right?

>>860393
What even is this shit? They don't count because...you don't like them or something?
You're a fucking dope.

>>860380

Neville and Breeze got cheered in NXT, doesn't mean anything when you make it on RAW and come out to complete silence.

>So desperate he lists divas

>>860396
Only guy not sandbagging desu

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>>860390
> dolph is a good seller
Underager fuck off back to wew

Shit b8 or dumb as fuck, either way i dont want to hear from you ever again

>>860393
You didn't say "wrestled on the indies a little", you said "indie darling". Indie wrestler =/= indie darling.

>>860384

I can see how 3 sentences can seem like a lot with someone with such shit reading comprehension. I guess one line shitposting with reaction images is more up your alley.

PS: I'm sorry I had to make you read all this. Your brain must be hurting.

>>860352

Or imagine wasting time actually responding to an Aussie. Disgusting.

>>860393
>Can't wrestle. He's Scotty 2 Hotty 2.0 who can talk.
You're completely swerving the point, you asked which wrestlers do smarks like, not which have the most talent
and Rusev wasn't an indie darling because he wasn't there long enough to be a favorite back then. I don't think you understand what the term means.

>>860394
Holly has forgiven him and probably doesnt want to chat shit get banged, there is a difference

>>860397

Where did I say I didn't like them you twat?

>>860398
>Breeze
>indie darling
Once again you appear to be switching arguments between posts because you can't keep up.

>>860393
>albeit more obscure
>indie darling
pick one, no one knows Rusev for his Indie work. Also how does this prove they aren't smark fav's or were indy darlings?

>>860400
He's literally the only current wrestler who can make sheamus look good, he's pretty good senpai

>>860390
Ziggler is a fucking retard.
He literally sabotaged his own career by overselling.
By overselling, he makes his opponents look like the hulk in the ring.
So what do the higher ups think when they see this?
>Hey look at this ziggler guy, he made x look fantastic in that superstars match, lets job him out against y so y looks good going into his title match on sunday.
Dumb as fuck

>>860393
Watch the progression of these posts
>>860357
>>860361
>>860393
Spot the sudden shift.

>>860398
Most people gave up hope on them because they have no faith in WWE creative. that doesn't mean they weren't smark favourites at one point.

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>>860408

>If anything that they are cheering a female kiddy character

The point was, getting cheered in NXT means nothing my wootist friend.

>>860411
At least he's got an almost guaranteed job for as long as he can keep up the selling.

>>860411
Only reason he isn't pushed is because he's "injury prone", he's one of the most talented and charismatic people on the roster, fucking dare you to saw reigns is better than ziggler sempai

>>860410
Ziggler is fucking terrible bro.

>>860393
You asked for names of people smarks like who weren't indie darlings. You get them, then complain that one is female, and then complain that the others aren't good, or something.

What is even your argument anymore? I think it was originally claiming that "smarks automatically hate anyone who isn't a flippy small indie darling", so going from that I think it's been thoroughly debunked.

>>860398
Breeze debuted out of nowhere with zero buildup on a random Smackdown, and was a jobber within three weeks.
How would anyone get behind that?

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>>860417
reigns is better than ziggler
What you going to do you fucking pencil neck geek?

>>860410
Ziggler is a tryhard waste of talent faggot whose selling is fucking embarrassing like 98 per cent of his matches

>>860415
And your examples were Neville and Breeze.
Neville was never that over in NXT compared to Zayn or Owens or Bálor, and was quickly jobbed into nothing. Breeze was DOA with that nothing debut and losing his first match on the main roster.

Kevin Owens debuted on the main roster and was immediately over.

>>860424
>implying reigns is good on the mic
>implying reigns is good in the ring
>implying someone who does a "superman punch" is good
>implying anyone actually likes reigns off of the internet

>>860410

Sheamus is better than Ziggler. Ziggler has been on a downward spiral to irrelevance since survivor series 2014. Now he doesn't even really have a gimmick apart from looking like an 80's cracked out homo.

>>860390
Ziggles oversells to a point where it makes his character look like weak shit.
HBK, the guy he looks up to and builds his character over said so himself.

>>860419

>complain that one is female

I didn't complain, I just found it funny. Calm down

>complain that the others aren't good

Again, where the fuck did I say that they weren't good you cuck?

And no, my initial argument was that fans of today are the dumbest they've ever been (granted that some people actually called NYPD from the Vince angle last week). The marks are dumber and so are the smarks.

That's my argument.

>>860427
super manpunch*

>>860416
He is one more concussion away from getting 404d
At least he can concentrate on his stand up comedy 'career'

>>860427
>implying Ziggler is good on the mic

I propose a /reigns/ general for Reigns discussion, and any further Reigns related discussion be banned from /wwe/ generals.

>>860428
Sheamus is the most untalented shitter on the roster, when you're entire fucking gimmick is being irish you know you're fucking terrible

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>>860427

>implying anyone actually likes reigns off of the internet

Pushes more merch than your favorite manlet wrestler

>>860427
>implying ziggler is good on the mic
>implying ziggler is good in the ring
>implying someone who does a "zig zag" is good
>implying anyone actually likes ziggler off of the internet

>>860430
You asked for someone who smarks love that isn't an indie darling. Enzo Amore was named. You said "Well he's not a good wrestler".
What's that got to do with anything?

If anything that's worse for your argument, because smarks love a guy who is a bad wrestler, because he's got charisma. The opposite of your "they only like flippy indie darlings" claim.

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>>860435

>People should stop discussing the current WWE champ cause it hurts my feewings

>>860435
>ban discussion of the WWE champ from /wwe/
Fuck off, faggot

>>860441
>>860442
>that instant butthurt
Wow

>>860434
>>860438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOxFGrnZ4Dc
>>860437
Sin Cara pushes more merch than reigns senpai, doesn't mean he's worth a shit to dubya dubya e

>>860436

Triggered homo detected. Heel Sheamus is GOAT you pathetic manlet.

>>860443
>calling out your stupidity
>butthurt

inb4 "i was only pretending"

>Trump gets elected
>McMahon dies
>Haitch gets maimed by deranged smarks at a house show

Yfw

>>860443

>butthurt

Wew lad. Mad that no one is talking about outlaw karate?

>>860436
Sheamus is fine and your opinions are fucking awful 2bh
Literal 12 year old mark tier, fuck off outta here

>>860446
>getting mad at a clearly facetious post
>but i wasn't butthurt i was just telling him what for....

>>860445
Current Sheamus isn't even the best in the shitty league of nations
>worse than alberto del mexicano
>worse than bad banter barrett
>worse than bulgarian/romanian who gives a shit
sheamus a shit senpai, barretts banter with rooney is more relevant than all of sheamuses career desu

>>860448
>even further butthurt
What a mark.

>>860450
>he pulled the "just pretending" anyways
MY SIDES

>>860450
> le mad
Just leave

> inb4 mad
Not even him

>>860450
>>860453
>>860446
>>860443
>>860442
>ur the mad
>no ur the butthurt
>no u
>no u
>no u
>no u

>>860451
And yet they are all better than Ziggles

>>860451

Are you Australian? I sense an Australian post. Either way terrible b8.

>>860455
>>860455
NEW THREAD

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>Reigns thread consists of utter shit much like his title reign

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>>860444
>Muh passion, dedication and hard work promo
zzzzzz
>Throw smark terms around for that e cred
>Yelling because I AM REALLY SERIOUS RIGHT NOW
wew
>"I have this thing known as the IT factor"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Wasn't Brock supposed to be back tonight (a week after Jawn)?

>>860444
>Sin Cara pushes more merch than reigns

[citation needed]

>>860436
>when you're entire fucking gimmick is being irish you know you're fucking terrible

Becky sucks too yeh?

>>860453
Not my fault you take your mangrapple fandom so seriously.

>>860464
Becky's gimmick doesn't rely on her being Irish.

>>860464
>Becky sucks too yeh?
Yes, she's absolute trash.
>Literally botched 2 matches to the point that a different chick won one and the other had a chick not even tagged in win.

>>860464
That's her old gimmick. Her gimmick now is goofy naïve sidekick.

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>>860444
>Sin Cara pushes more merch than reigns