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Another Patch Edition.

Old Thread: >>824993

Keep strictly real-steel topics in >>>/k/ , gun and gear porn's cool as long as you don't spam.

>Newbie pastebin
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>Maintenance 101
faggot who made it chimped out. open for takers.

>International and local laws concerning Airsoft, things to consider while traveling
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eVw8H56iR_jpo-slgO5e8KNlLvQIAj1yQ9V8rrF6jWo/edit?usp=sharing

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Thread Topic:
So we've got some options for patch designs. What should /asg/ go with for its official sekrit klub patch design if any?
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ass juice
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Are TAG (Tactical Airsoft Gear) uniforms any good? Airsplat has them for absolutely dirt cheap, like $10-$20
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>>837687
Never heard of them, but I can make a guess that they'd be like Rothco or Propper.
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>>837645
Do you guys buy Ivan's patches? Would Ivan sell /asg/ specific patches like he does /k/ specific ones?

http://www.kommandostore.com/custom-manufacture/patches.html
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>>837645
>>837645
>>837645
Steam group
>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/asg_plays
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>>837736
I would order stuff from Ivan, mainly some desert flecktarn, but I don't want a box sitting on my doorstep that says stuff like "ZIMMERNATOR 9000" or "Over 20 lbs of pussy and ass!"

A couple of my friends have the pantsu patches and they're pretty good quality though.
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>>837816
You can ask him to not write on the box and he'll oblige, Ivan's a good guy like that.
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>>837645
How many of you milsim fags wear legit ballistic protection in-game? I've got my plate carrier loaded with soft ballistic panels and a couple of training plates because oorah.
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>>837843
I've heard of people putting actual ceramic or steel plates in their gear and I personally think it's kind of silly. I don't know but I see it as taking the milsim too seriously.
If I wanted the heft then I would get some training plates like you said, or get some of those cheap replica SAPIs and fill them to the brim with sand.
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>>837851
I could see using steel or composite plates, but if you play airshit with ceramic plates, you're gonna have a bad time--fuckers are expensive to replace and easy to fuck-up if you're worried about actual ballistic performance later on down the road.
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>>837645
I've got a coyote brown IBA. I need a new costume, but I'm not switching out the vest: what kit can I build besides an American one?
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>>837854
Take your pick from these wonderful travel destinations!
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>>837895
Well, it's not much, but I've already saved up 10 kopiyok to put towards a new kit.
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>>837918
Which is like $0.004 USD. I wonder if Ukrainians still accept Soviet currency?
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>>837736
If we're happy with the ASG patch design I can try and get in contact with Ivan and see if he'd manufacture and stock them.
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>>837935
Do it, i found 2hu patchshop on storenvy. I could imagine Ivan making the /asg/ patch since they made the sc/out/ memebear
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Hey guys bit of a favor to ask

Can someone give me the dimensions of a SVD magazine (pic related), in centimeters preferably.
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Is the ASG, KWA, and KSC Glock 17 the same thing?
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shouldn't that be permissum non gaudium instead
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>>838006
Latin is really fucking hard to translate. I'll accept suggestions and corrections
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>>838006
>>838007
Maybe instead of "no fun allowed" in Latin we should do something like "Normies Go Home", but misconjugated like, "NORMES EUNT DOMUS"
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>>838012
normies non grata
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>>838015
>normies non grata

I like it.
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>>837988
Why? Might do it afterwork if its still needed.
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Anyone know the difference between the Stark Arms Super Grade S17 (glock 17) and the Sark Arms Pro Tactical S17? One seems to be double the price of the other but I can't see why.
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>>838062
He needs to know because of the wires in his magwell.
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>>838067
good yard

>>838062
I'm having short VSS mags coming in tomorrow and wondering if SVD mag pouches will fit them.
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Anyone hoping to pick up a easy fix boneyard gun after christmas? I know there's gonna be a big influx of "broken" guns going to be returned.
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i played airsoft and gun broke
sad
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>>838066
Stark Arms Pro Tactical has a steel slide.
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>>838198
So the standard one has an aluminium slide?
Also I've seen that there is a Gen3 G17 by Stark Arms, and a Gen4 G17 with full trademarks, I'm wondering if there are any differences to them since its obviously nicer.

I want to run one of these with the CO2 mags.
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>>838207
>CO2

Why?
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>>838277
Works all year, get 7 mags from one sparkler, don't have to carry around a big can of gas, higher power.
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>>837843
I occasionally wear my PASGT for the aesthetic.
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>/asp/ becomes /asp/+wrestling
>90% of catalog is nothing but wrestling
>All those niche or obscuring sporting stuffs get pushed off the board
What the fuck
Why

I've been gone way too fucking long.

Is buying graveyard guns and fixing them still a good savings? I remember last I was seriously into airsoft retailers were starting to catch on to that and broken guns were creeping up towards 20% discounts at best.

Yet somehow I doubt I could sell my crap for very much.

Do used TM's sell anymore?
I've been meaning to get rid of my old airsoft stuff but I've been out of it for so long. Yet TM was pretty much becoming obsolete last I remember.
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>>838378
It really depends on your area. If you plan to buy+repair+sell, I would advise against it.

If you want to buy cheap+repair+abuse, then do it
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>>838378
>Is buying graveyard guns and fixing them still a good savings
It's a gamble at best. If the gun is externally pristine, then yeah, internals TEND to be pretty solid, but external parts and proprietary elements might make boneyards impractical. For best results, keep your buys to easily repairable guns like AKs and M4s.

As for the TMs, depends on which ones.
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>>838352
I would wear a real PASGT too since the replicas always look so off. Although if I could find a good replica then I'd get that.


>>838378
Blame the fact that wrasslin was shitting up /sp/ so Moot2 pushed them over here.

>Is buying graveyard guns and fixing them still a good savings?
If you know that it's a simple fix, then yes. When I got my WE M14, I got it for $138 from AirsoftGI's boneyard simply because it had a dented flash hider.

>Do used TM's sell anymore?
Depends on the gun.
Older and rarer TMs like the SPAS, PSG-1, and p90s (just to name a few) still have some form of demand and have a slight premium over other guns thanks to their rarity or internal build quality.
A friend of mine has an early production TM XM177 and it shoots like it was brand new, even if it's over a decade old and running on stock parts. Only recently did it have the piston strip.
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>>838400
>>838387
>>838386
>>838378

TM AUG
It was the only option back in the day, aside from Classic Army which I'd believe it if they're still complete crap for internals.
It's so worn now it would have made no difference to buy a JG in the first place.

The P90 I believe has alternative manufacturers, as does the FAMAS now. PSG-1 and Type 89 for the odd gearbox features I'd actually consider to have value.

What happened to the Both Elephant Type 89 clone? I was going to buy one before I quit, on par or better then the TM in all aspects. Seems they're out of manufacture now.

Also, is APS any good? Seems to be a new manufacturer actually doing their own thing.

KWA still king of the crop for out-of-the-box?

Anymore I think I might just retire to chairsofting, tuning clones for fun. Last big thing was the R-Hop I think they decided to call it "invented" by that one egomaniac from ASM.

Madbull still the best all-around value for tightbores?
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>>837816
>tfw ordered from ivan and didn't get any notes or anything :(
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>>838355
Hey are you the guy with the black eye?
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>>838417
There are a couple other companies that now make P90s (Classic Army, JG/Echo1, G&G, King Arms, and WE now even makes a gas one), but Marui still makes the best one.

>What happened to the Both Elephant Type 89 clone?
BE just kinda fell off the face of the earth, but I believe they're just another name for JG since the Type 89 is also sold under their name. Either way, good luck finding one new since I believe they're been out of production for a couple years.

>is APS any good
Ehhhh. They're okay.
Just stay away from the electric blowback guns.

>KWA still king of the crop for out-of-the-box?
They're still pretty good, but they're not then only one anymore.
There's G&P, Krytac, E&L, LCT, and a couple others to name a few.

R-Hops and flathops are still a pretty big thing and are great range boosts.

>Madbull still the best all-around value for tightbores?
There's RA-Tech and Angel Custom, which make their tightbores out of steel so no.
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>>838417
The TM AUG is still good, but it is difficult for it to maintain its value over other AUGs without the optic.

The TM P90s are the only P90s on the market that hold their value, and the only P90s with built in optics that are worth a damn. FAMAS is shit no matter who you buy from.

The Type 89 clones went exactly where they should have: out of production. TM 89s are still getting made and have a cult following though, because they're totally worth it.

APS has SOME good parts offerings (Silver Edge gearbox) and a half-decent polymer bullpup in the UAR, but everything else, don't bother. Their pistols blow up and their other AEGs just blow.

KWA is what it's always been out of the box: proprietary shit. Whatever edge in pricing they once have, they don't really have it anymore. If you mean higher-end M4s, Krytac are the new big boy in town. If you mean lower-end guns, CYMA AKs are still and remain the best bang for your buck period, even with reports of declining parts quality.

New hotness now are Tipman manufactured HPA M4s. There's talk they're working on an AK and MP5 too. There's also some mysterious magnetic system that some small company is supposedly coming out with, but there's sparse details there. Flathopping has mostly supplanted R-hopping for preferred modification, if only due to ease of installation.

Value for cost, madbull sort of is. They're really more middle of the road. There are other manufacturers that put out similar kit. I run a Lonex steel barrel and it's been great.

Honestly, if you're this far behind, you'd make an awful chairsofter. I'd recommend prettying up one of your guns and just go out and play.
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>>838067
Lel
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>>838471
Yes. Long story short I told a speedkid to get his shit together and act his age (16) and he started a fight away from the field and had an older friend of his jump in. Last time I try to fight fair.

Moral of the story is don't get kicked in the face by a crackhead in steel toe boots.
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>>838073
Yes it will, how do I know? I own both and the SVD mag is bigger than the short VSS mag.
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>>838417
>What happened to the Both Elephant Type 89
I think there was just some factory producing them in China and then a number of different stickers got put on them, CSI, JG, Tercel, BE.

They are still available in HK stores, be warned the 3 round burst is unreliable, though everything else is fairly solid.
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>>838705
bigger in al 3 measurements?

Anyway thanks, I've asked this two threads in a row and no one responded until now.
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>>838700
Holy shit dude. Hopefully they banned that guy from wherever you were playing at.
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>Want to get an AK-104/5 with a 1P63 or an RPK-74m with a 1P78
>Don't own a real AK so I can't justify paying $400-600 for a scope that would sit on a bbgat
kill me desu
I hope that one day a company like Asura Dynamics starts making knockoff Russian sights.

>>838848
He said it was off field so I doubt the field can do anything.
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>>838856
I know that feel bro...
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>>838848
Funny thing is, he's a ref there and all the witnesses were both drunk and his friends/sister so they would vouch for him. I don't want the cops involved because he's a minor. I'm never going back to that field again, place was garbage anyway. It was a lasertag arena that they let us use for airsoft on Saturdays. Only place to play without driving an hour and 30 minutes plus, and entry was only $8.

I have successfully fucked them out of playing anywhere else ever again. This happened the 10th and I've been emailing friends and making phone calls ever since. I've also heard that one of them had been brandishing a taser and acting like he was going to shock someone with it at the field, from more than one trusted source.

>playing with a potentially lethal weapon in public
>around people whose obsession is firearms and their replicas

How to become a statistic.
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Ideal airsoft game?
>massive piece of wooded land with bodies of water for naval operations (ideally a wide river with several coves)
>hilly but not enough to be a pain in the ass to navigate or exhaust players too quickly
>some roads, open fields
>armored vehicles (tanks, APCs) having compressed nerf cannon duels from several hundred yards
>mounted patrols
>realistic MOUT facility
>semi-strict uniform requirements for each team
>third faction insurgents/guerrillas in civilian clothes that can actually roleplay
>admin/chain of command that can actually admin/chain of command
>planes doing simulated strafing/bombing runs
>blank fire
>3-4 days long
>tobacco/snack/toiletry vendors onsite in case people run out of stuff


Basically take Fulda Gap, Broken Home, and Milsim West, add them together, sprinkle in some East Wind (RIP), and there you have it.
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>>838933
DESU my ideal airsoft game is basically Battlefield Hardline.
>Cops vs Robbers
>One side in Black/Blue with M4's, M870's, MP5s, G36C
>Other side kebab with DPM, Jeans/hoodie, other civvie clothing, woolen balaclava, AK's, Galils, Bizons, non-american weapons.
>Urban sprawl complete with coffee plazas, shops, parking garage, tight office building.
>Proper radio usage, supplied by site
>Rescue the Hostage
>Steal da loot
>Blow up the Embassy
>Car chase?
>One whole day of 1 hour(ish) games
>Grenades fucking everywhere
>Costume competition for best loadout on each side.
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>>838933
don't know but I would really like to be part of a huge urban game. As in actual believable buildings with lots of people. Don't think I've seen that in any video so far.

Think about your average city basically. There. Squares, parks, alleys, apartments etc. That's where I'd want to try airsofting.
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>>838933
I would like something more RP based, using indigenous populations for intel, whole functioning town of non-combatants etc
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>>838933
My ideal OP
> if you die in the OP, you die for real.
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>>839091
But for real, an OP with actual air cav and motorized infantry. Something in the lines of a cross between the vietnam war and bush wars of africa. A main op with evolving side ops ie hostage rescue, kidnapping or assassinations and espionage.
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>>838797
>>838552

Just so you know, I had the BE Type 89 and in no fucking ways is it better than the TM, just saying, those internals are a piece of crap including the hop up, it wouldn't even line up correctly with the feeding ramp.
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Trying to decide between the following black vests:
http://www.military1st.co.uk/04613a-tactical-army-adjustable-vest-molle-light-modular-black.html
http://www.military1st.co.uk/13461002-mil-tec-carrier-vest-modular-system-black.html
http://www.military1st.co.uk/58631-019-5.11-vtac-lbe-tactical-vest-black.html
http://www.military1st.co.uk/13462102-mil-tec-molle-carrier-vest-black.html

This is for a police-like loadout. One of them is pretty fucking pricey but its currently one of my favourites.
Any thoughts/suggestions?
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>>838933
Basically MilSim West, but with more vehicles (transport helicopters, and APCs for Mech. Inf.) and a stricter chain of command.
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>>839260
If you can afford the 5.11 one go for it, buy once cry once.
Get some kind of body armor under it and roll. I'm sure it will look cool AF.
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>>839406
Why not just get a plate carrier then?
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>>839424
Because that's not how the police rolls.
Now some are changing to modern plate carriers but as far as I know some important units still do that, tho it's more of a classic loadout.
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>>839533
>>839424

Looks very cool to me.
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>>838933
Massive industrial complex with lots of structures and distances between cover
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>>839643
So pretty much the factory at Raid on Rostov.
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>>839406
>>839533
>>839535
Also, Black or Navy? I'm going for more of a UK MK5 police rather than SWAT but they all look the same these days.

By the way I'm naming the /asg/ police force "FUN POLICE" and will make sure patches are available for all cuntstables.
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>>839692
Alternative names:
T.W.A.T (Team Watch Anime Together)
K.B.A.B
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>>839692
Would totally buy.
If i were you I would go Navy, full black looks more SWATish and if done wrong looks awfull.
For Mp5 get the Riot stock >>839533
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>>839711
Man.... I really dislike the riot stock. I'm much happier with the full, folding, or collapsable stock. Also they're a damn sight cheaper.

Navy shit is hard to find. Military1st have a 5.11 Navy set but the shirt alone is £75 and considering I spent £50 on the MP5 I don't think I'm willing to blow that much.
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>>839701
Well, a normal milsim-going /asg/ force is called SMUG Squad, in reference to smug anime faces, so TWAT would work pretty well. Fun Police is another good one, but this thread doesn't really have a huge problem with the whole "stop liking what I don't like" thing.

>>839725
Proper definitely have navy blue shit. Heck, if you wanted you could pretty easily get a pair of navy blue dungarees and a surplus W. German navy jacket. Throw on a police vest, some subloads, and POLIZEI patches, a MICH, and boom, late 90s GSG-9.
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>>839711
Heres a potential uniform
http://www.military1st.co.uk/sp-sfn-pr-37-helikon-sfu-next-trousers-polycotton-ripstop-navy-blue.html
http://www.military1st.co.uk/11835003-teesar-bdu-shirt-ripstop-navy-blue.html
Black gloves of your choice
Black M88 helmet (Full ear cover one) or Riot helmet
One-hole balacalava (Black)
Black boots of your choice
Black kneepads or kneepad inserts.

MP5 (Your choice in config)
Glock 17
Grenades
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SURVEY TIME FAGGOTS

POST YOUR AIRSOFT SKILLS

Airsoft Skills (S to F rank)
[Skill]
>Close-quarters
>Medium range
>Long range
>(Your overall play skill and tactics)

>Fitness
>(Your overall fitness/stamina)

>Equipment
>(How well are you equipped regardless of its quality)

>Tech
>(Your knowledge about airsoft tech)

>Survival
>(Your knowledge about survival/flora/fauna/etc.)

[Proficiency]
>(Your proficiency with different weapon classes and equipment)
>Handguns
>Assault rifles
>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols
>Shotguns
>Sniper rifles
>Machine guns
>Launchers
>Throwable/placeable
>Equipment
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>>840958
>Self-reporting
Already have your results. Posters on /asg/ are the Golden Gods of Airsoft, whom none can defeat and none can outsmart or outshoot. Our tech skills are unrivaled, capable of turning even the lowliest of LPEGs into monsters all HPA spammers fear. We all use the perfect equipment for the job and can survive weeks innawoods, tracking targets with our bb-gats which we have tuned to perfectly to shoot further than a match .338 Lapua competition rifle and have over three hundred confirmed kills with.
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>>840958
>[Skill]
>>Close-quarters C
>>Medium range A
>>Long range C
>>Fitness A
>>Equipment S
>>Tech C
>>Survival B

>[Proficiency]
>>Handguns A
>>Assault rifles B
>>Sniper rifles Z
>>Launchers C
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>>840958
[Skill]
>Close-quarters: B (tend to hesitate because of muh rules/MSDs)
>Medium range: A (perfect range for me, just watching scrubs drop, tend to get trigger happy though)
>Long range: D (I'm legitimately short-sighted and have problems to see three-dimensionally on extreme ranges)

>Fitness: E (>tfw fat and no /fit/izen)

>Equipment: C (standard equipment, nothing fancy, carry mags like a nigger though)

>Tech: B (Know the physics I need, which parts I need to use, and can program simple circuits. Also I can disassemble and reassemble any AEG/GBB)

>Survival: D (Never got the chance to put them to the test, also basics only)

[Proficiency]
>Handguns: S (tend to be a lurker with them, can take out snipers with muh deagle and handle recoil single-handed)
>Assault rifles: A (My choice for primaries, can take on DMR and assault roles)
>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols: B (don't like the format, appreciate their fire-rate)
>Shotguns: B (Love me some upclose and personal combat, also fun to pump shit up)
>Sniper rifles: D (see long-range combat, also I'm not much into sniping)
>Machine guns: C (tend to spray-and-pray than being proficient with them because it's too much fun)
>Launchers: B (not hard to handle, right?)
>Throwable/placeable: C (know how to use them and not go snackbar with them)
>Equipment: C (At leas know how to properly use it, don't know about extended usages before though)
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>>840958
I don't skirmish but I'd wager I'm pretty shit at all of those.

Well, I suppose I might be able to do covering fire, but that's really not that hard of a concept.
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>>840958
[Skill]
>Close Quarters: C - I play nothing but woodland so I usually choke when I get into the odd CQB situation.
>Medium Range: A - 90% of my successes are at this range.
>Long range: B - I'm one of those assholes who is pretty good at arcing his shots when the hop won't reach on its own.

>Fitness: C+ - Average fitness, Slightly above average stamina

>Equipment: B - I rock a ChiCom chest rig or an LBVE for most games and it works very well for me and my playstyle. In the summer I wear lightweight BDUs and in the winter I rock combat pants and a hoodie.

>Tech: D+ - I can do pretty much everything that doesn't involve opening up the gearbox. I get the principles but I'm just not that good at it in practice.

Survival: B - Basically your average joe in this department. I can hunt and forage but what does that have to do with airshit? I can flank and do false retreats exceptionally well in the woods...

[Proficiency]
>Handguns - B
>Assault Rifles - A
>SMG - A
>Shotguns - D
>Sniper Rifles - D
>Machine Guns - N/A
>Launchers - N/A
>Throwable/placeable - N/A
>Equipment - N/A
>Melee - A (I've got my club record for knife and melee successes)
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SURVEY TIME FAGGOTS

POST YOUR AIRSOFT SKILLS

Airsoft Skills (S to F rank)
[Skill]
>Close-quarters
C. I don't do indoor CQB because it's shit, but I'm not completely terrible at MOUT.
>Medium range
A. Innawoods is mostly mid-range stuff and that is where I excel.
>Long range
B. I don't snipe but I can accurately engage targets out to the maximum range of my M16.
>(Your overall play skill and tactics)

>Fitness
D. I smoke a lot and have poor stamina but I also have giant balls and push through the tiredness a lot. Once the adrenaline wears off I have to take a breather.
>(Your overall fitness/stamina)

>Equipment
>(How well are you equipped regardless of its quality)
LC-2/ALICE/M56 webgear. It works very well, it allows full range of motion, and it's breathable. I can wear a bulky winter coat under it if it's cold, and if it's hot it doesn't hold in heat like a plate carrier or some chest rigs.
>Tech
>(Your knowledge about airsoft tech)
F. I cannot tech at all.
>Survival
>(Your knowledge about survival/flora/fauna/etc.)
A.
I can trap and hunt, I know what plants to avoid eating or touching. I know basic land nav and proper water purification procedures, as well as how to build a fire in adverse conditions and stay warm if a fire isn't an option.
[Proficiency]
>(Your proficiency with different weapon classes and equipment)
>Handguns
A. Standing at 35 yards with my 1911 I can shoot about an inch and a half group (pretty good for airsoft)
>Assault rifles
A. Rifles aren't hard to use, especially airsoft with no real noise or recoil.
>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols
A.
>Shotguns
B.
>Sniper rifles
B. I don't snipe often but I'm a good shot.
>Machine guns
A. I can actually into suppression and engaging strongest point of contact.
>Launchers
C. Haven't done this much, don't own one, not that accurate, but I can usually get on target with corrective fire.
>Throwable/placeable
A. It's literally throwing a ball
>Equipment
I know how to use my gear and set it up right.
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>>840958
>>Close-quarters B
>>Medium range B-
>>Long range C

>>Fitness C+)
>>Equipment B
>>Tech F- Its literally magic
>>Survival D+

>>Handguns C
>>Assault rifles C
>>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols B+
>>Shotguns C
>>Sniper rifles C
>>Machine guns C
>>Launchers C
>>Throwable/placeable C

>implying anyone will read this
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>>840958
>[Skill]
>>Close-quarters - S
>>Medium range - A
>>Long range - C

>>Fitness - B

>>Equipment - B

>>Tech - A

>>Survival - B

>[Proficiency]
>>Handguns - A
>>Assault rifles - n/a
>>Sub-machine guns - S
>>Shotguns - n/a
>>Sniper rifles - n/a
>>Machine guns - n/a
>>Launchers - n/a
>>Throwable/placeable - B
>>Equipment - B
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>>840958
>Close-quarters C
>Medium range A
>Long range F

>Fitness D
>Equipment D
>Tech B
>Survival D

>Handguns S
>Assault rifles B
>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols D
>Shotguns F
>Sniper rifles D
>Machine guns B
>Launchers C
>Throwable/placeable F
>Equipment C
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>>840958
>[Skill]
>>Close-quarters B
>>Medium range A
>>Long range D
>>Fitness B
>>Equipment B
>>Tech C
>>Survival C

>[Proficiency]
>>Handguns C
>>Assault rifles B
>>Sniper rifles F
>>Launchers F
>>Throwable/placeable D
>>Equipment D
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>tfw
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>>842156
What the hell is speedsoft?
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>>842286

Playing airsoft like speedball(paintball game variant), so high ROF guns and constant running. It negatively associated with assholes running around with BB-hose P*s and overshooting their targets.
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>>842286
Speedsoft/SpeedQB is the bastard child of paintball's speedball. It consists of highly tuned HPA guns, and lots of suicide rushes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QNg3G2ewAA

It's for those that either couldn't handle going against other speedballers in paintball, or couldn't afford to piss away so many painballs per game.
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>>842297
>lots of suicide rushes
So what stops these people from strapping themselves with airshit grenades with all their pins connected to one string, sprinting into where a bunch of people are and screaming ALLAHU AKBHAR? Creativity?
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>>842156
>We're not trying to make any of the speedsofters mad
>We don't cater to speedsofters
please tell me there is uproar from speedsofters
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>>840958
Airsoft Skills (S to F rank)
[Skill]
>Close-quarters D
I tend to shoot people in the face uncontrollably, so I don't go to CQB range.
>Medium range B
Easy enough if you're a support gunner.
>Long range D
I usually see people incoming from large distances, but I usually lack range to hit shit.
>(Your overall play skill and tactics)

>Fitness C
I'm fine with walking around with a 9kg machine gun for prolonged periods of time, but don't expect me to run much, thanks to knee trauma.
>(Your overall fitness/stamina)

>Equipment B
I rock either an M58 pattern webbing or a plate carrier w/ warbelt, and multicam BDU.
>(How well are you equipped regardless of its quality)

>Tech C
I can fix a gun, but I don't know shit about upgrading.
>(Your knowledge about airsoft tech)

>Survival D
I'm fine with living in a tent innawoods for several days, but I ain't Bear Grylls.
>(Your knowledge about survival/flora/fauna/etc.)

[Proficiency]
>(Your proficiency with different weapon classes and equipment)
>Handguns F
Almost no experience
>Assault rifles D
Can't reload fast enough
>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols D
Same here.
>Shotguns F
Never touched one.
>Sniper rifles D
Nah, not good.
>Machine guns B
YES, YEEEEEES, I'm good with my M60.
>Launchers F
Never tried one.
>Throwable/placeable C
When you pull the ring, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend!
>Equipment C
I often realise that I need my equipment to look cooler and store a pack of bbs, and that's it.
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>>840958
>[Skill]
>Close-quarters
B
>Medium range
S
>Long range
A

>Fitness
A

>Equipment
S

>Tech
C

>Survival
A

[Proficiency]
>Handguns
B
>Assault rifles
A
>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols
B
>Shotguns
F
>Sniper rifles
C
>Machine guns
D
>Launchers
F
>Throwable/placeable
F
>Equipment
A
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>Skill
Rice hat.

>Proficiency
Driving in LA Traffic.
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>>839159
I also have a BE Type 89, and after shimming, replacing the motor, hop rubber, and spring it's performed decently for the last 3 years. Though the 3 round burst gave up the ghost pretty early on (only fires full auto and semi). I managed to get hold of a complete TM hop unit, but haven't had to use it yet.

I guess the problem is that being an ACM gun QC is nearly non-existent.
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>>840958
[Skill]
>Close-quarters A
>Medium range B
>Long range C
>(Your overall play skill and tactics)
Overall I'm very aggressive but kinda shitty vision makes long range a bit of a challenge for me

>Fitness B
I can go 8 hours with a 25 pound gun and 20 pounds of gear but I'll feel it the next day (and day after)
>(Your overall fitness/stamina)

>Equipment A
Modern Russian imports and replicas
>(How well are you equipped regardless of its quality)

>Tech C
I can work a hop up upgrade and swap gearboxes but that's about it. I'd most likely pay for someone to work on a gearbox
>(Your knowledge about airsoft tech)

>Survival A
I've slept in a hand-made shelter with a space blanket for insulation in 45F degree weather and I always have an emergency kit in my car. I've also gone tent camping in below freezing weather.
>(Your knowledge about survival/flora/fauna/etc.)

[Proficiency]
>(Your proficiency with different weapon classes and equipment)
>Handguns A
>Assault rifles B
>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols B
>Shotguns D
>Sniper rifles D
>Machine guns B
>Launchers B
>Throwable/placeable D
>Equipment C
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Can someone restore the skype group link so people can actually join?
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>Tfw IRT Defender 2 is on the way
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>>842486
Just reply to the OP with with your skype name, one of us will put you in
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>>842303
A man can dream.
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>>842303
$$$
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>>842156
>Jericho
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Just got an A&K CO2 SVD with a scope and 4 mags for $200.

What am I in for?
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>>842864
I googled it and couldn't find anything.
You got an A&K SVD Bolt rifle with a CO2 conversion?
I hope the scope is nice atleast
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>>842902
That's what I'm thinking
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>>842348
Desu/10
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>>842864
High and rather inconsistent fps, but it seems like a popular conversion so there must be something in it.
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>>842864
Lot of work and money if you want it to be consistant and accurate.
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Where should I look to get a good deal on an AEG? I don't mind having to fix it up if it means getting a better deal.
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>>842864
Is it the straight pull co2 version or the gbb one? Either way though, I wouldn't really bother.
You could get a Cyma SVD for around that (King Arms, Classic Army, and A&K also make AEG SVDs, but they're based off of the classic army SVD; unlike the cyma which is based off of the holy grail of airsoft SVDs, the Real Sword.), and it'd be electric. http://www.evike.com/products/39120/
http://www.evike.com/products/42741/

Hell, you could get a WE SVD for a little under $40 more.
http://www.evike.com/products/39925/
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>>843111
r/airsoftmarket, dedicated facebook groups, and your local field
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Anyone tried those electric speedloaders? Having to load 170rnd midcaps is getting fucking old and having an automated way to do it would be nice.

Is the Laylax one powerful enough to load big midcaps or should I try and butcher an M249 mag and make my own?
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>>843243
>not handloading BBs 1 by 1 up to 30 per mag
muh milsim! muh realism!
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>>843256
Its better than using bitch buckets anyway
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>>843256
>didn't have an adapter for my speed loader when I got my WE M14 so I had two reenact the 7.62mm scene from Full Metal Jacket every time I wanted to plink in the back yard
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>>843243
I have one, yes they can handle deep midcaps. Only can get them through Redwolf. They do break eventually but are really nice in the meantime.
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>>843285
Thank you Wangblows Phone for saving gifs as jpegs.
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>>843285
>I had two
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Are Classic Army Proline M15A4s any good? Someone at my local field is looking to sell his.
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>>843526
Sure if the price is right. The stock internals aren't perfect, but maybe it'll work for a while.
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>>843627
What would a good price be? And how long do you mean buy "maybe it'll work for a while"
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>>840958
>>Close-quarters A
>>Medium range A
>>Long range B
>>Fitness B
>>Equipment A
>>Tech C
>>Survival B
>>Handguns B
>>Assault rifles A
>>Sub-machine guns/machine pistols A
>>Shotguns C
>>Sniper rifles C
>>Machine guns D
>>Launchers F
>>Throwable/placeable C
>>Equipment B
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>>843256
That shit is rough enough on your thumbs that people will buy things like .webm related for reals.

Now, I've only ever loaded .22LR single stack mags, but that shit isn't pleasant on your thumbs. Though rifle mags would be double-stack dual-column, so they'd be a fair bit easier to load, that's still 30 rounds.

Loading airsoft mags is a bit rough on your thumbs too, so I can see the motivation for a loading tool
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Someone said he/she wants this or not?
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>>844068
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>>842156
I wish I ran a aisoft field, i would actually have a speedsoft field.Which is just a empty lot and watch the chaos ensure with no rpm limits or fps.
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http://www.evike.com/products/47940/
Just bought this, how'd I do?
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>>844168
It's gear dude, that's pretty hard to fuck up.
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>>844168
>http://www.evike.com/products/47940/
Looks pretty nice. Always worth getting a bag that can take two guns so you can bring your backup with you.

Nothing worse than turning up to the field only to find your main gun is fucked and you've got to survive with just a pistol all day.
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>>844192
I always bring a Cyma AEG with me now
Once my polarstar's hop up got fucked because it was very dry and there was a fine powdery dust everywhere
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>>844167
All fun and games until you get sued.
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>>844408
Waiver forms
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Anyone know how to straighten a very slightly bent suppressor? Bought it second hand and was told it was still functional, but every 5th shot flies out at a 45 degree angle.

Guy also sold me a gun with a 170mm barrel and somehow didn't think that was worth mentioning. I should have bitched but i bent over and just bought a new barrel.

Buying off reddit, never again.

>Anyone else get screwed on private sales?
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>>844421
>implying waivers mean shit
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>>844459
If you make them Ski resort tier they can hold up pretty well
>>
Anyone looking for an HK-33?
http://www.airsplat.com/ksc-z330-hk33k-aeg-airsoft-rifle.html
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>>844457
There are a few different types of traders.

-Pants on head retards. They break their already shitty guns/gear and desperately try to pawn it off on others. They then buy new and do it all over again. Probably the bulk of traders. You met this one.

-Collectors. They just enjoy owning lots of different shit but eventually get tired of having something around.

-Flippers. They think having a sale thread up for 3 years, spending a half day orchestrating the actual trade, in which they make $10 profit is somehow worth it. Generally ask for way too much money for not broken things.

-Quitters. They sell an absurd amount of shit for $200 OBO. Easily the best deals to be had, but you usually have to buy a heap of shit you don't really want to get that nicely priced G&P.

The pants on head retards are generally why, if I buy used, I lowball the fuck out of people. Unless I know they aren't already a POHRfag. EG: I got a sick deal on a KSC MP9, but the extra bolt he had was chewed to shit, the nozzle springs were fucked, and the piston head was ready to turn into dust. I anticipated things breaking based on the gun model and the guy being dumb, so I lowballed him, and for good reason.


>>842156
socal fields are literal cancer. I feel incredibly bad for you guys out there.
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Any of you dudes know where i can buy the L1A1 SLR/ FN FAL replica?

Im new to airsoft and I want an L1A1, King Arms made one but no where seems to stock it anymore.

>Bonus points if long barrel version
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>>844595
I should have pushed him harder because it was way more trashed than he made it out to be. Functional but still trashed. I guess this is one of those lessons you just gotta learn. At least it was a sub $200 purchase which is relatively cheap for this money pit we call a hobby.
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>>844600
They have a more modern fal /sa58 model on airsoft gi for 190 if that interests you
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>put in order for Beretta 84
And now we play the waiting game.
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>>844600
eBay, Facebook b/s/t groups, or the classifieds on airsoft forums.
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>JG G3A4 for $105 new
Yay or nay?
My only problem is finding a metal receiver for the thing. Cobra Airsoft has one but they're mad sketchy.
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>>844600
Impossible to find, best bet is Ebay. You have about 0.000001% chance to get one. Your best bet, look into converting the Evike one.
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>>844595
I feel a need to contribute to this "trader" thing. When It comes to second hand private sales, never let anyone blow smoke up your ass. Airsoft guns lose their value faster and harder than anything out there. Your Offer should be 50% or more(I go 75% off and work up) than the new price.

As a rule, airsoft guns are used hard and their build quality from the get go is not up to the rigor of fake combat. Any experienced gamer will bring 2 or more guns to any game due to the very likely chance it will break down. You have no idea what this seller has done to the weapon or the bullshit they might have wedged into their gearboxes, you almost just paying for the external parts.

Which brings up another point, if the seller has attached a great value to a weapon because of internal "upgrade" you need to ignore this "value". Internal parts are the cheapest and easiest to come by and switch out. Whatever money he wasted in upgrading the gun when he owned shouldn't mean shit to you.

The most money I would spend on a used gun is 200$, and I would have to really want it.
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Name the top 5 airsoft gun manufacturers

Extra points for providing an explanation of why you think they are the best.
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>>844595
>-Quitters.
>Easily the best deals to be had
I know some of them already doing reverse psychology with this general bias
high chance they are selling repaired shit for profit, lie about quitting makes things can go smoother
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Guys i recently bought an aps asr116 with 7 mis cap (magpull licenced ) with the magazine pouch all of this for 170€ was it a good idea ?
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>>844958
And the pic
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>>844958
>>844961
>APS
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>>844963
Why ?
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>>844958
>>844961
Man, I don't even feel bad for you. The gun literally says what you are if you buy it written in bold letters on the dust cover.
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>>844966
kek
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>>844935
1. TM (most inovative)
2. RealSword (best externals in any airsoft gun)
3. CYMA (best price/quality, great starter guns)
I can't name 2 more and justify them being good
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>>844989
E&L subjectively has better AK externals I'd say, but realsword prettymuch covers everything else.
>>
Oh shi https://www.instagram.com/p/85NASJu2k7/
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>>845062
Its not airsoft?
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>>845076
it is
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>>845062
The picture was removed, what was it?
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>>845101
it is working fine, is a russian OP with tanks and stuff
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>>844663
>>844718
>>844760

I thought as much, I found a FAL Carbine that I could look into converting, thanks for the tips
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>>844989
I wouldn't totally write off KWA even though they do proprietary parts, their stuff usually works well out of the box. If something goes wrong and we all know it will, then you run into trouble.
>>
>I hate when in a CQB game, the whole team camp in a big room to wait until victory
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>>845213
I just hate CQB in general
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What nerf guns are we hoping mummy bought us then /asg/?
Only one more sleep to go !
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>one is never enough
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Has anyone found a reasonably priced brushstroke jacket in yurope?
Be it Rhodie, Belgian or even a WW2 Denison smock.
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>>845238
Why? You don't do well in tight spaces?
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>>845246
no guns
new stock for my m4 and a set of gucci digi flora
which means I'll be trading my m4 for an AK at some point
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>>842297
>0:55
>aim at a guy for 2 seconds
>blast his upper body with 3 second burst

Why the fuck are these guys even allowed to play?
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>>843981
>rough
Maybe if you have baby hands or shitty mags
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I just bought a JG G608, battery 8.4V 1400mHa

Any internal upgrade suggestions?

My team focuses on operations and missions on the flowers. milsim. So I needed a gun with good accuracy and a nice range. MilSim mostly.

We do not play much forfun.

My guys are lost because they all have m4
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>>845419
It's a basic starter gun. It's not bad per se, but you'll find it lacking quickly, specially if you play milsim.
Anyway, immediate replacements:
- inner barrel
- bucking
- idk if someone makes a good hop unit
>>
THE HYPE
I S
R E A L
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Seriously can someone explain me why aps and especialy the asr 116 should be a bad airsoft replic.
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>>845465
GHK need to make a GBBR FAL after this.
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>>842297
why don't set a ROF limit? might as well set a height limit too
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>tfw finally found some decent kit inspo thinking it's legit and it's actually another bbsofter
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>>838856
>tfw poorfag
>tfw can't justify buying a $239 PK-A because I want an optic that won't look like shit on an AK

why even live
>>
>>844989
I can testify for CYMA, I own a CM040D and it shoots and looks beautiful.
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>>845246
I asked for airsoft money, since I'm not entirely sure what I want. I'm either buying LCT AK accessories from Airsoft Megastore or ruski gear from Grey Shop
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>>845535
http://www.ebairsoft.com/ppkka-style-illuminated-scope-p-8525.html
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Anyone here have experience with cyma 1911 AEP? Been thinking about getting it as a cheap backup and for when shit gets to close range, since my main is M14(shit is long as fuck). My requirements are simple: AEP because fuck gas, 75m/s max, cheap. Any other recomendations?
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>>845259
Is that one of those double 1911s?

When are those even released? I'd love one.
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>>845549
AEPs are garbage, especially CYMA/WELL ones.
The battery capacity is small and they take ages to charge, batteries are proprietary to CYMA and Marui, internals are cheap and prone to breaking with little no replacement parts, weak battery combined with a weak motor results in poor trigger response and a low ROF, and the CYMA 1911 is bigger than a regular 1911 so you'll need to use a cheap cloth holster or get a kydex one custom made.

My advice? Just get a KJW 1911 and don't even bother with AEPs. Gas guns are stupid easy to maintain and have a plethora of parts compared to AEPs.
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>>845110
I saw it, it's fucking awesome.
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>>842297
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>>845551
soon will release in your country, mkay?
not just one version, and not just one brand making them
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>>845580
>Floral pattern

Win
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>>845583
Is that the same pattern a their glocks?
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>>845584
https://shop.jkarmy.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x800/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/e/we_1911_classic_floral_pattern_gbb_pistol_airsoft_3.jpg
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Oh god.

Which gorka should I buy guise? There are so many!
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>>845584
I am all in for a double barrel Glock.
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>>845599
SSO
If anything else then re-enforce the belt loops and buttons.
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>>845580
I feel like it would jam a whole lot more than it should
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>>845580
>They didn't even bother to fuse together the trigger guards or blend together the two grips
Bravo WE
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>Trying to troubleshoot a hop-up issue when I hate constantly disassembling my gun and am completely retarded when it comes to techwork.
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>>845664
this one >>845259 is for realisticfag
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>>845671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=endd_9AJurY
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>>845675
That's more like it. Those look like KJW nozzles too so hopefully it'll be of better quality than the WE.
>>
>>845664
It's a retarded gun anyway.
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>>845246
140,000,000 bbs and a plate carrier.
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>>845664
>asking for a practical design on two 1911s welded together
>>
As a general rule, which is more important, upgrading your gun or getting better gear?
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>>845880
Depends on the quality of your gun and gear, but usually upgrading your gun is more important. Take this from someone who started playing because it was a good excuse to use the gear I already had from being a gearqueer.
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Merry Christmas everyone!
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>>845868
It's actually more complicated than that, which is just so much worse because a lot of effort went into making that fucking monstrosity.

It literally would just have made more sense to make a kit that's a brace/frame fitting as grips for attaching two separate 1911 pistols together, which then comes with the slide and other parts for a left ejecting gun.

Would probably be way cheaper than this shit. Then when you're done with your stupid toy you have two perfectly fine pistols instead of a retarded one.
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>>845896
Merry christmas bro.
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>>845896

>>845908
merry christmas fellow /asp/ies
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What new nerf guns did we get for xmas then /asg/?
Post em
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>>845552
>>845549

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BK5ER3IG4c&index=14&list=FLMHK0N3yopL77kGU1hZCi_Q

Anyway, I call bullshit, battery space is small, yes, but mod it to deans and use FCU batteries, it will fit. I ran 11.1v lipos on my Cyma G18 aep fine.

Great for super cold winter airsofters.
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>>845929
One of these days I'll convert my WELL MP7 to deans and utterly kill the gears.
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Merry Christmas!
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>>845947
Top shelf keks
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Right, just bought almost all of my police loadout. Fuck that was expensive :(
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>>845999
What's left in your loadout list?
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>>846003
Glock 17 (Preferably Stark Arms), belt holster, and belt mag holster.
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>>846003
>>846009
Oh, and a "Fun Police" and "TFL Revenue Enforcement" patch.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
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>>846029
>tacti-onesie
I need it
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What did /asp/ get for Christmas?
I bought myself a Fort Defender 2 and my family got me a gun rack and a Condor fleece jacket
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>>845942
Well compact machine gun gears are steel so you'll probably kill something else in the gearbox.
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>>846134
not a glock :(
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>>846134
LODS EMONE
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How hard would it be to fit a pouch like http://www.torontoairsoft.com/ESKI--Triple-ARAK-Mag-Pouch-OD-_p_3975.html, into a messenger bag like this,
http://www.armysurplusworld.com/product.asp?ProductID=1131
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>>846187

Can you stitch?
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SPEEDSOFT HOLOCAUST
N O W
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>>846211
I'm glad I play private games, so I don't have to deal with these fucks
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Post pics of you Christmas hauls faggots
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how bad are .12 BBs?
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>>846187
With basic sewing skills anything is possible
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>>846245
The #1 to instantly wreck your gun. Avoid avoid avoid
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>>846245
If they're high quality then they're not terrible
Its just that heavier weight bbs generally are more consistent due to them not being influenced as much by air.
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>>846248
If he's getting shitty sporting good store ones yeah
The real issue with .12s, even the high quality ones made by reputable brands is that they're shit in terms of outdoor areas or any place with large amounts of air circulation.
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>>846245
Terrible. The turbulence caused by a butterfly could knock a .12 bb off course.
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>>846215
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>>846257
Suka blyat,where's the vodka bottle dump pouch?
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>>846245
Great for cheap moscart ammo.
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Happy Christmas motherfuckers.
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Happy non-denominational end-of-year-break!
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>>846268
on my currently unattatched belt
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wanted this 4 xmas - http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/12261-we-bell-m1911a1-co2-gbb-full-metal-airsoft-pistol-bell-823mb-co2.aspx

got this 4 xmas - http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/12261-we-bell-m1911a1-co2-gbb-full-metal-airsoft-pistol-bell-823mb-co2.aspx

got this 4 xmas - http://www.evike.com/products/45596/

Which is better? Am i lucky or unlucky? halp meh plz.
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>>846289
the first "got this" is a copy, disregard.
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>>846297
Le cool and edgy meme
>noose yourself please
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Not necessarily a Chrimbus gift, but I got this secondhand AIM GBB CO2 SVD today. Pretty nice, even came with the scope. Can't decide on a name.
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>>846343
With Katya.

Still waiting for evike to send me my KWC M712
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any of you fags want to read my outline for an event?
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>>846356
No
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>>846356
Sure.
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http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/12261-we-bell-m1911a1-co2-gbb-full-metal-airsoft-pistol-bell-823mb-co2.aspx or http://www.evike.com/products/45596/
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>>846356
sure
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>>846367
>>846369
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13c6_a7rKrViSP5OMJnAIRJUsJh2ty9ord7NOpLHj_mM/edit?usp=sharing
I wrote this in 30 minutes so ignore the grammar and shit
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>>846368
First one has shit reviews. Second doesn't, and also looks much better.

What do you fucking think?
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>>846372
thankyou
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>>846372
If you're interested in being autismo correct then I'd suggest saying Iran fired SRBMs rather than ICBMs. I mean, using a space rocket to hit your neighbour is wasteful as fuck. Especially given the cost of these things. Also, it's more likely Israel fired th nukes first. Everyone knows that with Jews you lose.

Otherwise, real nice kid. 7/10 because some of it sounded like the start of World in Conflict.
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>>846377
Wrong thread, m8.
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>>846381
Gr8 B8 M8
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>>846377
I stole most of the idea from World in Conflict
I went with ICBM's because they're people out who dont know what SRBM's are

I left out the part where Tel-Aviv gets turned into glass because the autistic people around me.

Thanks for not being a faggot anon
Merry Christmas
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>>846245
Adequate for casual spring-gun plinking at short distances, in nice weather.
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>>846385
Thanks.
I figured you might be fishing for advice. Nice work though.

Merry Christmas to you too anon.
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>>846371
Russian's shouldn't wear tigerstripe. Gorka or in solids or pre-flora. LBVs are a good option instead of early PCs
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>>846397
thats just me opening up the ranks a little bit
updating the gear list right now
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>>846397
I also went with early PC's because had I said a non tacticool PC's some faggot would of shown with a jpc with no pouches and try to argue about it
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Going to buy a ARES MSR 338 and upgrade it with Laylax, PDI and Promethius parts. I have money to spend, dont worry about that.
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>>846451
Check if the MSR doesn't have stupid propietary shit.
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>>846457
VSR-10 compatible.
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>>846461
Just asking cause sometimes they say vsr-10 compat but its like 80% of it
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Where could I buy (Canada) an AMD-65 ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLSJNvME9JA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX7C6lsOUaA (Hungarian)
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So for Christmas I got a Matrix Co2 powered K98 that takes Co2 cartridges and Green Gas. The problem is the Co2 have to be 8 gram. All I can find for airsoft are 12 gram but apparently soda carbonators take 8 gram co2 cartridges and they look like the 12 gram ones. Will they work?
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Woa, is this for real ?
40$ CYMA Ak-47 http://www.airsplat.com/cyma-ak47-electric-airsoft-rifle-lpeg.html
1$ Mags http://www.airsplat.com/jg-ak47-ak74-aeg-hi-cap-airsoft-magazine.html

Is this website legit ? Boxing day sales ?
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>>846559
Ignore AK-47, it's shit
http://www.airsplat.com/cyma-ak47-028c-airsoft-aeg-rifle-gun.html
This is better 70$ still
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would this 50$ shit be worth the bucks ? For CQB, no need for much accuracy.
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>>846580
http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/10418-jg-works-m5k-pdw-ris-airsoft-smg-rear-wired-aeg-crane-stock-jg-206.aspx
forgot link
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>>846559
They're pretty meh. It's based off of the Marui AK instead of the VFC, and the build quality leaves much to be desired, but for $40 I guess you can't complain since it beats those $50 LPEG AKs that you would get from your local sporting goods store.
And yes, Airsplat is legitimate. They're not as reliable as Evike or AirsoftGI, but they're a legitimate business that (probably) won't run off with your money. Keep in mind that they're probably not closing and this is just another "THE LAST SALE OF THE YEAR" things that they've pulled before.
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I hate hi-cap mags, you know the ones, they hold hundreds of rounds and you have to wind them periodically (and even then I never seem to get them to work consistently). So I go with mags closest to the real thing.

I have a WE made M&P 9, the real one has a 17+1 capacity standard, but the magazine on mine can take a couple pellets more.
Personally I load mine with 18 to simulate 17+1 capacity, do you guys do the same, or do you just fill it to the top?

I figure, maybe not loading them fully saves a bit on the life on the springs, like on a real gun.
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>>846632
My WE M14 magazines come standard with a 20 round capacity, but I removed the spacer and put in the 30 round spring because those ten extra rounds matter when the gun is your primary.
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>>846635
I can see that.

Speaking of which, that makes me wish someone made GBB models of the Mini-14 (the new one), and the AC-556k, they feel so delightfully oldschool. Yet I'd end up using 20rd mags with them because I like how that looks.

>inb4 fuddlore about their accuracy
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>>846581
You could probably find something better for CQB for just a little more from 2nd hand sales.
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>>846637
Someone custom made an AEG one, but that's about it.
I had sworn that one of the old Japanese manufactures like MGC or Sun Project would have made one, but they didn't; at least to my knowledge.
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>>846637
Someone custom made an AEG one, but that's about it.
I had sworn that one of the old Japanese manufactures like MGC or Sun Project would have made one, but they didn't; at least to my knowledge.
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>>846640
Sun Project DID make this though. Although it's just a Maruzen AUG in a muzzelite chassis.
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>>846640
I think there used to be an pump-action one with a "sawed off" stock, or maybe it was a plugfire gun.
That was like, WAY long ago.

>>846642
>Muzzelite
Why in god's name would you EVER want that? Those were (still is), the shittiest fucking aftermarket stocks ever made for the Mini-14 rifles.
It's literally a vacuformed plastic clamshell that you fit the gun in, it's brittle and the trigger linkage gives you an awful trigger-pull.

The only thing the Muzzelite was ever good for was for movie armorers to make guns for sci-fi movies (Starship Troopers, Total Recall, etc).

Well, I guess back when Colt still had dibs on the AR-15 design and charged a premium for it, it was kind of attractive with how the old Mini-14 was really cheap, so you could pick up a Mini-14 for cheap, the kit for cheap, and since Bill Ruger was a clever designer, but an asshole, your only source of 10+ sized mags would be the aftermarket, so you'd be looking at getting those cheap 30rd mags made out of clear plastic.
So you could have a combat rifle for fairly cheap. It was shit, but it was -something-
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>>846451
2 buckings?
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>>846397
>russians shouldn't wear tigerstripe
>muh tigr
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Gonna start wearing this to the field
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>>843981
I know this is off-topic, but how come all the bullets fit in if they're longer than the mag when they're lined up like that?
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>>846667
They double stack, they don't stay flat like in the loady thingy
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>>846289
You did a lot better
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>>846645
If an airsoft version can fix the performance issues of the actual chassis it would be a neat gun to have. It's ugly, 1980s/1990s plastic ugly, but in a way that makes me want it.
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>>846667
It's because it's a double stack magazine, pic related
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>>846687
Well yeah, it's just a regular AEG in a plastic chassis.

But if you're looking for a Mini-14, the Muzzelite is like the worst of the worst setups.
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Whats your favorite brand? I personally love Marui
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>>846735
WE has been good to me so far, but I have VERY limited experience with airsoft.
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>>846738
W/E Is complete garbage. they have good looking guns but their enternals are Shit. Get out of W/E why you can
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>>846748
WE makes some very good GBBs, depending on the model
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>>846748
Really?
How are they bad? Is this widely regarded?
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I want my stuff now /asg/, I don't want to have to wait till after christmas :(
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>>846774
My Beretta is probably gonna show up on Tuesday or Wednesday, I'm really excited!
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Mfw I totally got burnt on that p90 and basically flushed 100 bucks
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>>846493
If you haven't decided on the brand, get a LCT one. Based for quality. Just got one myself.
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>>846934
send it to me brah, I'll fix it, I'm after a new one anyway.
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>>846754
WE is generally known for good designs, poor build quality, loose fit and finish, and rarely updating their problems.
Their 1911s are relatively fine (watch out for the barrel separating and shooting out the front, and the barrel bushing snapping on the 1911A1); but some guns like their AK series, their Glocks, and the M14 are fraught with common known problems that WE refuses to fix.
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>>846939
What else should I get to make a Hungarian loadout ?
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>>844457
Bought a KAC QD supperssor, I was under the impression it was the real ~$80 one but got a big dragon one. I paid $35 so I basically just bought a knockoff suppressor for full price minus the 3 week shipping.
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>>846945
Join the skype group, I'm in touch with a Hungarian from their national living history group. I should be able to help you out from what he tells me. He's helping me acquire the gear I need and I'm sure I could pass on the help.
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>>846940
It works but it wasnt in anywhere near the condition of what i paid for it. This guy said lightly used with slight body damage.
>the inside where that plate holds the motor is trashed
>the stock where the buttplate attaches is shattered
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>>846949
I think my Skype name is boogosuto or something like that. I think someone has to add me to join
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Does anyone know if the AIM Co2 SVD has an adjustable hop-up, and if so, how to adjust it?

Evike is saying it does, but since when are they 100% accurate?
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>>846942
Their XD is great interestingly enough with their mags marginally better than Tokyo Maruis XD mags.
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>>846942
It's the opposite dude,
WE 1911s are the shit on planet, and their new products are relatively fine. Still, I wouldn't bet on their durability.
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>>846659
I would actually buy a chest piece to do this. However how do i install pouches?
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What's a nice M16A2 GBB? One that will have SAFE/SEMI/FULL rather than SAFE/SEMI/BURST.
Preferably metal body.

I can alternatively settle for an XM-177
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>>847247
WE makes an XM177E2 and I believe G&P and Western Arms made an M16A2.
Viper Tec and Bomber also make XM177s and M16A2s, but be prepared to pay over $800.
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>>847277
I see.

Would something like say, MagPul handguards and a MagPul stock fit on the WE XM177? And a grip? Like, those would likely be made to a standard or something, right?
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SlavshitAnon here, some Crimean tracksuit-model got off her ass and finally shipped out my patches, which I received today.
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>>847247
>>847277
UPDATE
G&P makes an M16A2, but it's close to $800.
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/g-p-woc-ar15-a2-gbb-rifle-cnc.html#.Vn91kvkrK9I

>>847286
No idea why you would do that, but I don't see why not. I know people put real steel CAR-15 parts on the XM177s.
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>>847310
Just so I know that I have options.

I like how it looks and all, but ultimately I'd be getting it to have a carbine AR with a fixed carry handle.
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>>847288
Where did you get the azov battalion patch at?
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>>847316
That's an Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine patch, pre-NVR conflict. I'd also never wear an Azov patch.

Get it here: etsy com/listing/206364365/stalker-game-military-grouping-airsoft
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any of you /asg/ euroboys looking for an IRT defender 2? selling mine
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>>847441
If I didn't just buy one I would have paid for overseas shipping to buy yours.
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>>847160
You could get a chicom rig and throw it on top
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>>837926
no country accepts soviet currency since the fall of soviet union
the coins are worth less than paperweights
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What would give me the best performance, prometheus purple or a modify flat hop?
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Guys is ICS M4A1 with lonex bits, with a few masks and a vest also thrown in, a good deal for 330 dollars?
i'm a babby trying to get into airsoft pls respond
pic related
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About to close a deal on an Rys-T helmet.
My dick is diamonds.
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>>838171
>Asg: The post
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>>847554
Depends on how competent tech the guy is, but I wouldn't trust random people to know their way around the internals. If it has a ready made Lonex drop-in gearbox and he hasn't touched it, then it might be okay.

If we assume that the gun doesn't wobble or squeel too much, shoots consistantly and the mags feed all right, it looks like a pretty good deal. It's not the nicest AR I've seen and I have no idea what kind of vest he's throwing in, but that's a lot of stuff for 330$.
Test his shit thoroughly before spending your money. For 330$ you should be able to buy all the NECESSARY shit from a proper store though.
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>>847598
I bought something off x.com, did I do good?
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>>847695
>any techs know why my gun keeps jamming?
>I'm using 0.12s and I don't know what lube is.
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>>847699
>is gun X better than gun Y
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>>847707
>i'm on a budget
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>>847709
>G&P or E&L?
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>>847714
>2k15
>having wires in your magwell
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>>847719
>opinions on the G&G Combat Machine
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>>847722
>Will these mags work in my gun?
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>>847547
aren't modify buckings really shit?
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>Hey guys I just ran around outside with my gun and now I hear sirens

>Am I in trouble?
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>>847726
>Send me pictures of your magwell
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>>847547
Probably Prome if you flatten it and use a proper nub with it.
>>
How is the Discord group going?
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Sometimes eBay gives us the meme we've always needed.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Mens-Authentic-UK-Camouflage-Army-Combat-Pants-Jacket-Paintball-Suit-/381444362043?hash=item58cfdb0f3b:m:mIequlRZI1uMxD7nFFhnLVQ
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>>847823
What the christ
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>>847808
what if I don't flathop the prommy bucking and just use it as is
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>>847823
High faggotry low drag
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>>847823
>not hiring a model to wear your bbwar gear
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>>847848
>>847850
That shit is CBRN protective gear, it's supposed to be worn over normal combat gear as it has a carbon inned liner and is uncomfortable as fuck. Plus you get black shit all over you.
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>>847831
Well buy a Prome flat hop then.
http://www.evike.com/products/49585/
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>>844779
yeah, i definitely agree with you. I have hundreds of hours of tech work into many many different guns, basically all from friends from over the years, and I cringe when I see people advertising internal upgrades and tech work done to guns on sale ads. I immediately drop my bid price whenever someone tells me that they have done anything to a gun, with the exception of putting in shit like a BTC spectre or something that will just hold raw value.

I went to a game just over the summer where some dude paid an asshole tech $300 in labor alone to upgrade a "DMR" he had, smugly citing the dude was "the best in the area, bar none". The thing shit its pants after 10 rounds. I've seen it happen before that and will continue to see it after.

Admittedly, airsoft guns are pieces of shit that can and do fuck up for a billion different reasons. I've had everything that can go wrong in a V2 box do so due to the horrible manufacturing standards of parts. Especially when you push guns really hard, things can break no matter how finely you tune them.

I just don't trust 99% of airsofters as far as I can throw their fat asses, same goes for the manufacturers who are making every part to a different spec. Either a trade deal is bone stock or I lowball the fuck out of the offer. It has paid off several times because people are retards.
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>>847897
>I just don't trust 99% of airsofters as far as I can throw their fat asses
kkekk
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>>846951
>not asking for pictures of these slightly damaged areas

Your fault desu
>>
I've accumulated all my relative's money from christmas, time to buy myself some shit for my AK74m. Any suggestions?
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>>847916
a sling
extra mags

that is it
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Any Massachusetts Anons around? My Army buddy just got back from Alaska, and we're going to Stronghold in Abington on Friday. Who wants to operate with SlavshitAnon and a frozen cowboy?
>>
Biodegradable pellets, yay or nay?
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>>848023
Mandatory by law in all fields
>even thou they're mostly snake oil
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>>847941
Go to bed, Mike
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>>848025
Oh? How so? Do they not break down and degrade in the outdoors or what?
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>>848032
Definitely not at the rate they advertise. But anyway, it's better than slow-degrading plastic
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>>848034
Well, I have a bag I must have had for like 4 years now, they're still whole. Though I also keep it in the fridge, which is supposed to help them last.

I guess maybe they last longer if sealed in their containers as well?

Anyway, as long as they degrade within the decade, I think that's adequate.
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>>848042
You shouldn't store opened bags of bio bbs. They swell, and if you use a tightbore they'll definitely break and cause malfunctions (even harm) to your replica.
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>>848052
What, for real?!
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>>847941
Fellow slavshit here
I'm going saturday myself
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>>848027
Go cuddle your whore-tuba, John.
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>>848027
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>>848080
Had a smidge of a kek m8
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>>847914
Absolutely 100 percento, he sent me a video of it firing which conveniently hid the busted part. Oh well buy once, cry once, airsofters code.
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>>848052
That's not how bio bbs work at all. As long as they're stored in a cool, dry, dark space, there's no chance they'll do anything. They only swell in humidity and shit and as long as they're not unduly hot they won't break down that way either.

If they swell if they're stored in a cool, dark, dry space, then get better fucking bbs, chump.
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>/r/airsoft
http://covertopsast.blogspot.com/2015/12/an-open-letter-to-jericho-airsoft.html
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>>848161
what
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>>848042
>Keeping your BBs in the fridge
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>>848166
was going to bitch about /r/airsoft but forgot to remove the >/r/airsoft when i wanted to just post the link instead
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>>848161
>Speedsoft is a mentality, it's a way of playing that doesn't require you to have a ridiculously high ROF. It's a way of tactically assessing situations and reacting based on the "Risk vs. Reward"
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>>848161
>http://covertopsast.blogspot.com/2015/12/an-open-letter-to-jericho-airsoft.html


>Muh DSG for milsim
no that shits straight speedsoft
>Our skill level is beyond average to the common player when in a CQ environment and the way we perceive things differs from the average player, simply because we're not afraid of getting "Out."
Which means you run into the line of fire and hipfire on full auto

The only thing saltier than this dude is my fucking nuts
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>>848171
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQbzcHYYdO0

also this video has autism written all over it
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>>848169
>>Speedsoft is a mentality, it's a way of playing that doesn't require you to have a ridiculously high ROF. It's a way of tactically assessing situations and reacting based on the "Risk vs. Reward"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5jNuV5SO3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Gli9QI2N4
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>>848172
>muzzle flash and gun sounds from the gopro footage
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>>848167
That takes me back.

>>848171
>run into the line of fire and hipfire on full auto
That's some fucking Colombian drugrunner shit, their mooks learned their shooting from American action movies, thus they just let loose on full auto from the hip (standing out in the open, without any cover), then look stumped when their 30 rounds are gone, not having a plan for what to do next.
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>>848023
G&G Bio are the best in many reviews and my opinion.
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>>848161
Not even /r/airsoft is that cancerous
They may be reddit, but speedsoft is universally hated
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>>848171
>>848174
>>848169
Would you guys have problem with speedsofters if the field forced everyone to use semi auto and maximum energy of 1J?
Sure anyone can play aggressively, but that's only your problem if you're unable to counteract it and punish them while they're out in the open. Without their bb showers they have very similar fire power to everyone else.
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>>848270
They have some lube/oils that leave really hard shit on your barrel. If you are a responsible person and clean your shit after each game, then they're really good choice. If you don't clean your shit, don't use G&G Bio
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>>848379
>semi-only, under 1J
So basically European airsoft, right?
Because here we don't have that problem (most of the time) and aggressive airsoft is good, it is not synonymous with speedsofter
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Semi auto only just isn't -fun-
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>>848384
I've shot over 100k of G&G bios and I've got nothing to complain about them. Most shit that's in your barrel comes from your gearbox.

>>848385
Well what is the problem with speedsofting then if not the ludicrous rate of fire and the pain inflicted? 1J is plenty for CQB areas.
>So basically European airsoft
EU is not a country nor is Germany all of Europe. They have different laws and rules varying by country and field, just like in Clapistan.
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>>848413
>EU is not a country nor is Germany all of Europe. They have different laws and rules varying by country and field, just like in Clapistan.
There are almost no 'speedsoft'-style fields in Europe, and that style of playing is not encouraged anywhere
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>>848379
Trust me, it means jack shit. The speedsofters at my semi-auto only arena all run under a joule so as to not rock the boat. They STILL overshoot. They STILL depend mostly on volume of fire over accuracy and placement. We have aggressive players who rush up and put down fire, but there's a distinct difference in how they move and how the speedsofters move. Speedsofters are cancer because they're the quantity over quality players. They don't depend on positioning and fire lines, they depend on twitch reflexes and a fast trigger finger. There's no strategy to speedsoft, it's all YOLO 420 blaze it light up this 10 year old with a rental. It's trash, no matter the max muzzle energy.

>>848398
git gud scrub.
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>>848445
Well maybe you should just ban the players who are there to inflict pain on others. If they have no strategy other than to run at you, they should be easy to pick off.
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>>848445
Sounds like milsim and speedsofters are both looking for two different things.

Like maybe speedsofting should be a separate thing, like there'd be speedsoft fields, or scheduled speedsoft events? There's obviously some kind of demand for it.
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Any /asg/ lads at ambush in lancaster, PA today? I am/was the kid in flecktarn with an m4 and tan plate carrier.
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>>848174
That's a airsoft tournament with a cash prize.
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>>848161
>you're the Donald Trump of airsoft.

I can live with this.
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>>848161
Was this written by a 12 year old?

>no matter how much I want (or don't) want to.
>want want
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>>848459
>they should be easy to pick off.
For an experienced player, they can be, but as a ref, I see a whole boatload of newer players get really salty when one of the speedsofters come barreling through. Sometimes if there's enough cover you can't even swing around in time before you get 10 rounds into your shoulder from a hair trigger through an HPA pipe at a range where one or two shots would do. That would make anyone salty. Airsoft is first and foremost a courtesy sport. Not just an honor sport, a COURTESY sport. Breaking that courtesy ruins it for everyone, and that's just what speedsofters do with their spray and pray tactics. It's not just wasteful and a poor tactic to use against anyone but newbies, it's disrespectful and sets the sport back because there's this assumption behind their overshooting that your average guy won't call their hits unless you empty half of your mag into him.
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>>848384
I use GBBR so I clean my barrel after every 3-4 games to avoid my barrel being an shit.
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>>848592
This
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>>847554
No.
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>>848379
nope
I'd have everybody play like that
as long as LMGs have full auto
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>>848379
Semi is pretty much the only fire mode I use. Problem is that most people cant be arsed to tune their gun to work with semi properly so you have people that have guns that take 1.5 seconds to fire and jam when they are mashing the trigger.
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>>848174
Wheres the tactic in that?
>not a second someone isn't firing full auto
>people going full aloha snackbar with weapons over their head

Good thing I play in Finland so 90% of airsofters have gone through some form of military training so you can do basic movements even with people you have never seen before the game.
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>>848592
Of course people new to sport get blown the fuck out. There's no way around the fact. Generally they are also the worst people at calling their hits. No matter how obvious it was they always come up with bullshit excuses.
Forcing semi auto only will decrease overshooting a dramatically. Instead of a cloud of 30 bbs, the opposing player will get hit by maybe three bbs. If the speedsofter shoots upwards of ten rounds with semi to a target who's most certainly hit and called his loud and clear, I'd go to ask the players what the fuck is going on.
Give them a warning and ban them if they continue to overshoot. If the organizators aren't willing to do shit, maybe it's time to change the field.
It's also possible that at of times the person getting shot at doesn't call his hit loud or clear enough and ''silently'' drops out which also creates lots of overshooting. Probably not a big problem at CQB towns, but happens every now and then in woods. It's critical to encourage people to call their hits LOUDLY, raise a hand and preferably use a 'dead rag' so that people around them notice. Otherwise you'll end up with lots of people complaining about cheaters when they aren't sure if the other guy took the hit or not.
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>>848720
Dennis on paras :DD ja intin käynyt supersotilas xDD
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>>848174
>>848720
isn't that in thailand or some shit where they play like retards?
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>>848582
Considering it's speedsoft, that's pretty likely.
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>>848161
>Canadian butting in on American affairs and complaining about Trump
Why do nonAmericans do this?
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>>848782
Because non-americans feel the need to talk about america all the time
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>>848172
>Gunshot sounds are cowadooty bullshit
>Muzzle flashes hang around for far too long
>Obvious this kid has never fired a gun
>Editing is completely cowadooty/battlefield tier
>Radio chatter sounds like 18 year olds trying to be tough but mumbling their lines as if they're unsure of themselves
At least put some fucking effort into it goddamn
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>>848782
But Canada is part of the Americas.
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This ak worth it?

http://www.evike.com/products/30161/
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I'm thinking about grabbing a revolver from evike because they seem fun both on and off the field, and was wondering how much maintenance they need since I'm still kind of new.
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>>851900
Here's my guide to buying CYMA's:

stick to VFC clones and the 028
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>>851905
Find out if it has hop-up or any other kind of stabilizing, I had one which did not have any hopup, and thus shot like a smoothbore pipegun, not a straight shot ever out of that gun.
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>>851900
what >>851991 said. Also, there is no such thing as by JG / CYMA, they're two different manufacturers.
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>>848161
>defending speedsoft
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Lol, I've played this dumbass sport for over a decade, work full time in the industry, yet I don't think I'll ever understand the paintball/speedball playstyle hate.

Speedball treats the sport like a game, and milsim treats it like a simulation. It doesn't seem hard to understand. Shitheads run amok throughout the entire community, dispersed fairly evenly, despite places like socal being well-publicized dens of rich dickhole kids with p*'s and dye masks.

A lot of what I have noticed, though, are older out of shape milsim guys and/or neckbeards getting VERY VERY salty over some skinny teenagers who can outrun them. Those kids who don't really care about their loadouts, about putting a strong shoulder behind their stock, etc. Those kids who just like to play the game and shoot people with BBs.

I mean, Desert_Scorpion_666 spent $500 on his nice repro cammies and 6094 rig, not to mention his decked out WE m4 that finally recoils just like he wanted it. And Zaitsev_autismo_surpluslover6969 just managed to track down that limited run tokarev gbb that feeds 30% of the time--it's not fair that some kid could just sprint around and get lucky like that!1!! So instead of accepting that other people enjoy dicking around with BB guns in a different way than they do they get super butthurt about it and shit on everyone who likes things they don't.

Face it: you hate speedsofters because they're better at hitting people with BBs than you are. You might dislike milfags/slavaboos/campers quite a bit, but you'll never really hate them like speedshitters because they aren't the ones who are overwhelmingly better at hitting people with BBs.

Find a decent group you like to play with, stop being assmad at peoples preferences, and move on m8s.
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>>852714
So I'm all pretty new at this, but this seems like bait of some sort.

Also, as I said before, based on my observations, it seems like milsim and speedsoft players want different things, they clearly don't look to be playing the same game.

There really ought to be speedsoft fields or dedicated speedsoft games where they can go and do that shit without disrupting the milsim people.
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>>852714
this is bait
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Jericho Airsoft is closed and looking for another area to settle in

https://jerichoairsoft.com/
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>>852714
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>>845062
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vISIU2poPy4

Crazy russtards
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new thread?
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>>853013
I'll do one in the morning
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Can anyone explain how an AEG gearbox works in semi auto so that it only fires 1 shot per trigger pull?
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>>852844
>deaf sign for abortion
hahaha, is that legit?
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>>853050
Sector gear has a small nub at the bottom. Nub moves the cut-off plate. Cut-off plate moves the trigger contact sled a little bit so the spring can pull it back.

Usually the problem is that the cut-off plate is worn or simply doesn't fit your gearbox and isn't getting a proper contact with sector gear. I've got five different cut-off plates and not a single one of them works in my AR.
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>>837645
How much do I have to spend on a maximum-milsim AK-47 (specifically AMD-65) and Beretta 92? Like, top of the line bullshit that can hold up to a butt-strike or two and interfaces with similar feedback to real steel. I have basic mechanical and electrical competence.
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>>853064
Like I said before, LCT for the AMD since they make them from stamped steel.
As for the 92? probably KJW. All gas pistols are going to be made of either some zinc alloy or aluminum (cast) so durability isn't exactly the same as steel. If you really wanted to, you could get a Tokyo Marui 92fs and buy a Guarder frame and slide which would be made from CNC aluminum.
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>>847533
Yeah, I know, I just think they're neat to have as a slavshit aficionado. I got a bag of different coins for two American dollars and those were mixed in with them.
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>>853064
>Beretta 92? Like, top of the line bullshit that can hold up to a butt-strike or two and interfaces with similar feedback to real steel
Doesn't exist. Don't buy airsoft 92s, they have a long history of being finicky and fragile.
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>>853064
>Butstrike
>AMD65

Good luck with that
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>>853064
>butt-strike
As in thwacking someone over the head? I can think of lots of reasons why you shouldn't, but the biggest is that airsoft guns are made out of plastic and zinc, sometimes aluminum, then very rarely with small parts made out of actual steel.

They are not good as clubs.
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>>853117
I have a real-steel one and getting hit with it fucking sucks.
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>>853122
Wait, metal airshit is just aluminum and zinc? Fuck.
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>>853222
Yeah, what the fuck do you think?
They're toys made to project tiny lightweight plastic BBs at relatively low speeds (400fps is relatively high powered for an airgun), they don't have to make shit out of steel.
It's all cast zinc and cast aluminum (nicer ones), and mid tier consumer plastic, the inner barrels being made out of brass.

Making it out of steel would make the weapon needlessly expensive for the consumer and kids and teens (the typical target audience) ain't gonna shell out that kind of money.

Not to talk about weight being an issue, it'll increase shipping and the guns will be too heavy for the target audience. You can get steel slides for GBB pistols, but they run over $100, which is more than what your average decent GBB pistol will cost.

The only guns that I can think of which would feature real steel for major parts of their construction would be Systema brand M16s, and those go for like $1500, they're actually aiming to be training implements, rather than just cheap toys.
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>>853222
>drop real 1911 on the pavement
Might scratch

>drop airshit 1911 on the pavement
Slide might actually crack
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>>852714
>they're better at hitting people with BBs than you are
Shot for shot? Hell no, they're not. What takes me three bbs to get a guy out with a good angle and a bit of patience takes a speedsofter 10 bbs and yolostrats. Then he loads the footage up onto youtube to shitty dubstep and conveniently leaves out where he got lit up right after. They're the 360 no-scopers of airsoft: it doesn't actually matter if they're good or not, they make public asses of themselves and rely on methods and tactics that are generally frowned upon. I'd be a fool to say that every speedsofter is the definition of cancer killing airsoft, but holy shit there are speedsofters out there make it very easy to take that leap.

By contrast, Milsim faggots have built a much better image due to events and the companies that run them. The kind of respect for the game and enforcement of courtesy is what people have fun with. Because of this strong showing, you're much less likely to find the milfag who refuses to call his hits because all his gear is Crye. And even then I'll prefer the milfag because at least he's less likely to overshoot.

And just to be clear, this thread doesn't tend to lean milsim, even with a fair appreciation for slavshit and equipment. This is an average joe kind of community. Loads of people have cammo, but not everyone rocks the full devgru kit all the time. Some of us show up to fields in jeans, a hoodie, and a light belt or chest rig, but miraculously, we're still not speedsofters.
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>>853222
If you want firearms tier bodies you're going to have to get an E&L or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyH52R3hrf4
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