Good starting martial art fightan thing

>>800226
tell us where you live maybe there is a good coach around you. For the most part style and schools that promote resistant training, sparring, etc like boxing, Muay thai, judo, wrestling BJJ will get you the most bang for your buck. Besides that it depends on your price range, schdule and how you mesh with the coaches. So there you go.

Boxing/muay thai + bjj/judo/wrestling

Avoid anything korean, Chinese or Jewish

>>800226
best thing to do is start basic conditioning right now, even if you are still looking for a style.

Best exercises I would recommend you train;

Sit-ups (anchored or free sitting)
Squats
Pushups
one arm dumb-bell rows
30 second chinup holds

And start jogging (NOT running)
if you have a gym membership, make use of the spin bikes and google fartlek interval training (called "High Intensity Interval Training" by plebs)
Use fartlek training to train all 3 energy systems, but focus primaly on the aerobic training zone, or training in the vicinity of your "lactate inflection point".
Your "aerobic" energy system and resting heart rate should be your primary focuses.
Train cardio 20 minutes each session, with your goal being to 'cover more distance' each week. I would recommend doing your cardio the same morning as your circuit training day, but doing the circuit in the afternoon.


Personally I would always recommend warming up with the rowing machine, stretching before training (but ONLY after warming up) and stretching after a workout.

I would recommend 30 reps of each as the beginners goal, 2 sets of each exercise, 30 seconds rest between exercises in the circuit,
So when you finish one set of one exercise, rest for 30, then do one set of the next exercises, and continue this until you can cycled through all of the exercises twice.

If you can't make that, start with 2 sets of 10, then 3 sets of 10, then 3 sets of 15, then 2 sets of 20, then 2 sets of 20.

Due to a concept known as diminishing returns, you will make very rapid progress during the initial stages of your training.

do this training every second day, by the time you can do it, add a set to each exercises, then once you can do that, take away the rest, and go immediately from one exercises do the next until you finish your training.

Go get 'em tiger.
As you start this routine you can look up and make an informed martial arts decision without wasting away like a sedentary pleb.

>>800328
>>800226
And yes, your 3 plate DL with have a carry over,
Do some strength training 1/2 times a week, but get started on your conditioning, because in martial arts, condition and cardio are arguably more important than strength, because skill can make up for what strength lacks, but not vice versa.

That being said, definitely strength train, but focus on low rep (2-5) maximums, no point wasting energy on hypertrophy unless you are trying to make a particular weight class.

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>>800226

I like this chart here..

Personally I recommend starting something (say: Judo) and add something different (say: boxing) after a year.

And don't worry about additional training, in most martial arts classes you'll have plenty of body eight training. And if you train sincerely you'll find out by yourself when the time comes to start additional strength training. Focus on technique first and add strength training after some months.

>>800226
>decent shape
>best pr was lmao3pl8 diddlylift
Tiptopkek

>>800328
Read the fucking sticky newfriend

>>804036
Gurantee that chart was made by some fag trying to justify his shitty art.

Ignore all "specialization" shit at the bottom, op.

Just do what I'm doing and go for boxing (best punches bar none, youll learn how to punch like a king, it's cheap, it's everywhere, it's western so you can take pride in it) and judo for grappling (at a much later date). I'm going to learn muay thai after I learn judo but that's way down the line. I start boxing in Dec-January. You also will only need to go like 3 days a week unlike the /fit/fags who have to go 5 times a week

>>805159
Also, boxing and judo are 10/10 practical. Muay thai is too but for purely self-defense reasons boxing is all you need, 6 months in (or even 1 week lol) and you'll be able to beat 90% of the twink poseurs on the street

>>804858

Oh well, there's a guy on /asp/ who is cross training in BJJ, Judo and Aikido, ask him about wristlocks, they can be usefull..

For Escrima or Hapkido, weapon usage is never ever a mistake. Even if it's not as usefull as boxing because it's more specialised (and more difficult to apply), the whole strategies and the sheer feeling of swining objects (with the different footwork, distancing and timing) is a nice addon for a martial artist.

TKD or Savate are nto my cup of tea, but they can really anhance your kicks, if you also do some regular kickboxing.

Krav Maga.. well OK, personally I don't like it that much, but at least it would give you some rudimentary weapon tactics and self defense tricks.

>>805401
I know who you're talking about and I'm still skeptical. Sure he may pull off a wristlock or two on the ground...maybe. but I'll believe it when I see it.

In any case aikido trains in a way that's super unrealistic and will actively make you worse at fighting. There's hardly a point in sifting through all the bullshit if someone can just teach you the submission in 10 minutes.

>>800226
It depends on what's available for you.

Certain stuff is best done for someone who already knows martial arts - like Aikido (inb4 butthurt), which doesn't make sense to you if you can't mentally attach it to pre-existing concepts.

Then there's the question of what you want to do.

Do you want full contact fighting/sparring?

Are you interested in tournament shit?

Do you want street usability?

Do you like weapons or are you more of a fan of unarmed fighting?

How strong are your knees, how stable your wrists? What is your body shape? Capoeira would likely be shit for a heavyweight.

Wanna collect badges/belts/whatever?

Will you only do it to work out or do you want to apply the knowledge at some point in some way?

How high is your resistance to moves that only work on a gi?

For example, if you don't want to get your face punched in on a constant basis and don't give a fuck about tournaments and shit and want some applicability, I suggest Balintawak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epmin-BomkM

As you can see, the training method is inherently a stress drill. The better you get, the more pressure your trainer puts on you and the more varied the attack types get.
And yet there's no need to ever actually get hit, aside from friendly kicks to your legs or touching of your face if you fuck up footwork/cover.

Complexity is also important. You can learn boxing comparably quickly, because sparring gives you a good incentive to fight properly and the art only has a few elements to take track of. (Note, I'm NOT saying that boxing is easy. I know that some shithead will inevitably take this sentence that way just to stir up drama)
Also, boxing is really fucking awesome for stamina.

Meanwhile, more complicated arts may take a while before you feel like they are paying off. And if you don't do any kind of training with stress/resisting opponents, you will barely have any real world usage. Stress training is what makes you capable of acting in actual combat.

>>805160
> boxing and judo are 10/10 practical
Just remember that skulls are hard and ordinary people don't wear gis.
If you can fight without accidentally slipping into the assumptions of either of these two arts, they really are practical.
If not, you will try to grab a t-shirt and fuck up. Or punch a face and break your hand.

>>805736

>If not, you will try to grab a t-shirt and fuck up.

Except that this is bullshit. Judo throws work perfectly fine without Gi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRTsabfMTgs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfAHxGcf4Ng

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqP48-wZz80

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktquuOLeQV4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JnnOGechXU

Bonus points for Judo defense (Daki Age) against the "guard":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6_olPQYgNo


>Or punch a face and break your hand.

Which is also bullshit, if you are not stupid enough to hit as hard as you would without gloves.. There's just so many vids about boxing, I really can''t decide. But just a precious few:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlMD1iaMp6o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJUw7OXXGwg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_5Wm2C70w8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDs59D3SkIw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkXtYxHfENw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSX0PCQXiO4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nacjiAeF00M

>>805934

>Bonus points for Judo defense (Daki Age) against the "guard"

The sneaky part is at 1:07, he pushes the guy to the ground the very moment he releases his legs, so he lands completly on his back. That's so nasty.. :))

>>805736
>ordinary people don't wear gis.
I've done ogoshi with no gi while wearing 14oz gloves You're a retard.

>>805934
>Judo throws work perfectly fine without Gi.
I never said they don't. I'm just saying that a gi is easier to grab, which forms a habit.

>Which is also bullshit, if you are not stupid enough to hit as hard as you would without gloves..
And that's basically what I said. You can punch their skull with less force or fucking aim for targets that don't break your hand if you use full force.
You just need to realize it during the fight.

That's what I'm saying - If you go into the fight and punch like you punch in the ring, you fuck yourself over.

>>805969

>That's what I'm saying

Oh, my bad.

Just enjoy the videos then..

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>>804590
>read the sticky
>yfw not on /fit/
>yfw all those years of worshipping SS were for nothing
>yfw i'm a qualified trainer/instructor
>mfw I read your post

>>806502
>yfw all those years of worshipping SS were for nothing
Wait, shit, what should I be doing instead?

>>806560
Probably PHAT.
I guy got a Ph.D. with it.

>>806568
>mfw people are only now realizing increasing strength increases size potential
>increasing muscle size promotes increased energy stores and anaerobic muscle use and aerobic efficiency
>strength training increases weight you can lift throughout ALL rep ranges
>increase training weight in similar rep range = greater results

So glad someone with an irrefutable qualification has come out and explained this,
Way too many people trusting the minor strength carry over from hypertrophy training to increase their weight leading to plateaus faster than necessary.

But this is about gains not martial arts.

Get on your conditioning and don't stop until you can do 100 reps in under 200 seconds (3 minutes 20 seconds) of every exercise (with good form)

And start stretching WAY more than you want to.

If you want to incorporate PHAT do one day conditioning, 2 day power a/b split 1 day fullbody hypertrophy 3 days rest, alternating between 2 and 1 days hypertrophy and power every other week, (4 days training all up each week)
Then for one week every month, just do conditioning for 2 days broken by rest with no other training, and these will function as your deload weeks.

food for thought.