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>>761315
It's specifically airsoft, which is a sport. Nerf would be acceptable on /toy/, but competitive nerf has it's place on /asp/. However, that place is not necessarily in this thread. The most nerf discussion you'll find here will likely have to do with airsoft LARP that also involves nerf guns or the occasional airsoft vs. nerf video that gets posted.

>>761531
Those seem awfully unergonomic to hold.

>>761542
So is that airsoft or real steel? I don't see any eyepro, but if it's airsoft it has to be a GBB. I don't see enough space for a motor there.

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>>761573
Airsoft, I think the company is based in Vegas, GBB ofc.

>>761585
So what you're telling me is
>Magazine Inserted
>Finger on the trigger
>Safety off
>No eyepro
Absolutely cancer. Not even asking for much, some basic shooting glasses would be enough.

>>761573
Could be AEG, that seems a simple bulpup kit, might just cover the motor.

>>761683
How can you be so stupid anon, because taking staged pictures is super dangerous, isn't it?

>>762080
safety first:^)

>>762457
eyepro can be pretty hot anyway

>>761531
People actually bought these. What the fuck.

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>>761585
Holy shit I need one of these in my life.

>>761536
C00L D00D5

>that lct vss
saved though

>>761315
Everything is a sport here in /asp/, but not Nerf.

>>761289
Is that MAA?

>>763002
Coming out for Christmas. I wonder how much this kit will be, I like this design over the RONI carbine

>>761531
I'd buy those grips. Does anyone know who makes them or sells?

>>761548
Airsoft is not a sport. Neither is nerf. Both are toys that you play games with, similar to boffer weapons.

There has to be a line drawn to define the word "sport". For various reasons airsoft doesn't fit into those lines. its more of a hobby.

Not that it isn't great fun(and I love it) but airsoft defining feature is the guns, which are replica toys. But, airsoft talk is where you find it, and on 4chan, thats /asp/.

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>>763224
>not liking RONI
>not mentioning HERA

>>763433
HERA is ok with me, so is the KPOS kit. I don't like the RONI kit because to me looks like a fat swollen mp7(if that makes any sense).

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>>763242
Are we being raided, airsoft is a combat sport, also how does one have a replica of a toy? No one on this board uses toy airsoft guns, we use replicas based off of real firearms(mostly) with very technical firing mechanisms. I think you need to leave.

>>763534
check the top of the board m8
stop taking the b8 newfag tbqhlmao

They'll go away soon enough.

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>>763485
you're an OK guy, then

Airsoft isn't a sport it is a game. I say this as +10 Year player who's been to everything from informal backyard games with Springers to 30 hour Ops with hundreds of players.

Don't make it a sport.

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This is how you make yourself look like when you go full retard.

>>764129
This nigga never shot a hosegun with a Foam Filled Banana.

>>764196
wow, so you follow us all the way here.... pathetic

So back to airsoft

Should I get the prometheus soft bucking for my cm040, or the prometheus hard bucking?

Read from an anon that the gun gets tremendous accuracy with a good bushing, and I narrowed down my search to those two.

>>764254
Fuck, meant bucking

Sleep deprivation has a grip on me

>>764254
Can't you try Green G&G or Madbull Blue?
I use those and they're amazing (CM040J)

>>764290
The G&G green is a good bucking, but it's mainly popular because of it's usability in colder weather.
I'd say get a Prometheus purple.

>>764290
Alright, I'm open to suggestions. What advantage do they have besides price?

>>764290
>>764316
they work really well, almost everyone here uses it

>>764325
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=745_31_170&products_id=3715

This one?

>>764333
yep

Looking for a PKA equivalent scope for my ak74 because I want something on it without the optic looking out of place.

>>764196
no one cares, faggot

>>764491
Side note: any other airsoft recticle is fine, as long as it looks Russian.

>>764497
Replica kobra from ebay or taiwangun.

>>764491
http://www.ebairsoft.com/ppkka-style-illuminated-scope-p-8525.html

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>>764911
what the fuck is this?

>>763002
a 5/10 girlfriend?

>>764911
Thank you David Ly :^)

>>764115
Is there really something wrong with calling it a sport that it's making you sperg out? Sure, it doesn't have the same presence like football, soccer, and basketball, but it fits the definition of a sport as a physical competition with other players.

Anyway, if moving pieces of weird shaped plastic on cardboard is considered a sport in this day and age, I fail to see why airsoft wouldn't more than qualify.

But it isn't REALLY a competition, the moment you put a prize on the line honour goes even further out the window.

>>765591
Nobody said there needed to be a prize. If one team is against the other then it is a competition.

>>765430
Why does it have to be a sport? Chess is a sport, though maybe someone disagrees, because it has a specific set of rules and a common understanding. Airsoft is un-attached to those things, mainly due to the huge variety of devices, not just replica firearms.

These devices are used for many different scenarios and game modes, each unlike the other.

This is evident by the threads about airsoft on /asp/, which mainly focus on the equipment rather than rules or the game. Much like R/C cars, you can play games with them, but I would hardly consider it a sport.

The confusion comes from people who think just because the are enjoying a physical activity with others that they are now athletes.

>>764948
Fuck, is that fucker here?

>>765642
You can call it whatever you want, be it a sport or some mindless free for all in some places, but I say it can be classified as a sport because it fits the primary condition of an activity where you have to use whatever muscle you may or may not have to compete against other people in achieving a goal. That's it.

>it has a specific set of rules and a common understanding
Unless your fields somehow have no presence of refs that give a shit, I'd say airsoft events have the same thing going on. Yes, there are different scenarios for playing airsoft, but the most important part is that there are rules to moderate the game. You might want to clarify about that common understanding part but if I were to guess, there is one present in these games. Why do people spend hundreds of dollars on gear and plastic, drive hours on end, and hang out with a bunch of children and manchildren under the sun? It all comes down to people enjoying this sort of activity and wishing to spend so much time and money on it, just like how others feel about golf, tennis, soccer, and so on. This sort of behavior can be shown in a good or bad way, but that's with all sports.

Sure, most of these discussions talk more about equipment, but the most serious people are small in number and in teams talking about strategy and tactics. I've honestly never encountered people calling themselves athletes in airsoft though. I wouldn't call myself one either since most of my time for airsoft is sitting on a chair buying stuff online and teching, but whatever.

>>765714
I agree with most everything you say. But just because your undertaking a physical activity doesn't make it sport. Fucking takes alot of muscle, but there ain't no rules in fucking, just what feels good.

Also, 90% of the time I play there are no refs.

>>765834
Oh I hear ya. And if you got a shit community to deal with, then airsoft is something you wouldn't see as a sport when there's virtually no rules and most people are being cunts. Good thing the two fields I like the most care about that sort of thing instead of just the money.

>>765834
Refs or no doesn't really matter. You need agreed upon rules that everyone does their best to follow or everything falls apart and no one has fun. Pick-up basketball is as much a sport as any other, but the rules will be different compared to the basketball you see on TV, and there's unlikely to be any refs. Nevertheless, it's still a competitive regulated athletic activity.

Airsoft just won't ever go much further than that "pick up" level because it's impossible to achieve accountability to the rules required for high-level play, but just because it can't be bigger on a competitive level than it is now doesn't mean that it doesn't qualify as a sport.

>>765872
From my experience, you can't have a good community without first having rules that are strongly enforced by the refs and the landowners. It's different from pickup games when you are only dealing with less than 8 people and you can can call out the shit people do easily. For airsoft, especially in areas with more than 30 to 40 people in one game, a lot of new people start without knowing the system, so if they aren't corrected, they will continue to break rules and courtesy with others.

If you have the refs and the administrators to crack down on that behavior, people will get the idea and regulars will also be a part of rule enforcement. Frequent players know that the rules work for them and everyone else and once they see someone not going along with it, they will respond to that immediately. In my area, I've seen this more or less and things turn out pretty well. There's sometimes the occasional shithead but he doesn't last too long.

Nevertheless, airsoft as a whole relies on the honor system and there's quite a number of cracks to slip through. I can only hope people just follow the examples of good fields over time and start caring or else they close up.

>>765908
Oh, I definitely agree, but I was more speaking to how "sport" airsoft is. No amount of refs or community can stop cheaters, blatant or subtle, when there's $10k or more on the line so there really can't be big tourneys like in my mongolian stop-motion-picture reels, but that doesn't disqualify its qualifications as a sport.

>>765676
No idea but he posted that shit on one of the bbwarz b/s/t facebook pages.

so now that it is cold, should i invest in good aep or a co2 mag for my p226?

>>766115
What brand is your p226?

I'm going the AEP route myself.

>>766115
CO2 is good for summer too, more consistent than gas. so not a bad thing to get either way.

If you go down the AEP route, I'd go for a TM/CYMA USP, as it seems to yield the best results when trying to increase fps.

>>766303
kjw

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Anyone know how to display airsoft gear tastefully? I'm thinking of getting a head mannequin to display my helmet and headset

>>765930
As a matter of fact, that does disqualify it. Rules, how ever you make them, cannot be reasonably enforced.

>>766864
Does airsoft have a set of rules?
>yes

Is airsoft a physical event?
>yes

Is airsoft competitive?
>yes

Then shit man, it's literally a sport.

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Which slavhelm should I buy?

>>767162
>>767165
Mgs5 custom gun builder airsoft edition

>>767215
Does airsoft have a specific set of rules?
>no

Is airsoft a physical event?
>doesn't matter

Is airsoft competitive?
>yes

Then shit man, it's literally not a sport.

>>767462
Yes, there are specific rules. Just because there aren't any official regulating bodies to codify those rules doesn't mean there aren't rules. It's like saying pool isn't a sport just because there are dozens and dozens of unofficial house and game rules, but in the end it's all use stick to precisely hit ball.

And how could the physicality of a sport not matter? Sports are by definition physical. It's one of the three requirements for something to be a sport: Regulation, Physicality, and Competitiveness. The biggest argument you have is Regulation, but that doesn't hold water unless you mean that something has to be regulated professionally, which means you measure sport by what you can see on tv like a massive faggot.

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>>767462
>it's literally not a sport

>>767462
Sucks to have your fields full of shit if you think this, anon

>>767162
This one looks sort of okay.
>>767165
This one looks truly awful.

>>767226
depends which impression you're trying to make

>>768211
>>767226
If you don't own all Slavhelms, you are not of real slav.

>>767493
Chess is a sport and is not physical

>>768856

Chess is not a sport. I don't care what any sports jouranlist or chess fag says.

You can have a billion people holding a piece of cheese waving it in my face going "THIS IS HAMBURGER!!! THIS IS HAMBURGER!!!!"

doesn't make it hamburger, it's a fucking piece of cheese. Much like how Chess is a hobby or pastime activity.

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>>767462
Airsoft does have a set of rules. Unless I've just been imagining all those rules and refs at my field.

>>768925
I couldn't give a shit about chess any less here, but at least try to prove your point without looking like a dumbass. A stupid analogy is not acceptable as a valid argument.

>>768966
You've been shooting kids with real guns and the police is outside. You know what you have to do.

>>768925
>I don't care what any sports jouranlist or chess fag says
you don't decide what is a sport and what isn't

>>768856
Speed chess is quite physical. Choosing your moves isn't quite that physical, but you need fast and nimble fingers to move the pieces and not disturb the rest of the board so you can flip the clock. Professional speed chess players work their fingers and hands out constantly so that they can increase hand and finger speed.

Recently bought a GBB pistol.
Whats the proper maintenance for it? How often do I need to add oil to the mag, how often/ whats parts on the gun need lubing?

>>768966
Please list all the rules as you know them for the sport of airsoft. Or just the general rules as all of us understand that apply from game to game, I mean the real foundation and spirit of the sport.

And to get everyone else involved, lets hear how everyone else plays the sport.

Any ideas where to get tropentarn/wustentarn from? I can't find BDU pants anywhere.

>>769625
I found a couple European websites that sell it right after posting. No American websites yet.

>>769546
If you get hit, you're out

>>769967
Don't forget minimum engagement distances for certain fps which varies but a lot of fields I got to is pretty much standard.

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>nobody posts pictures anymore

>>770137
Fields, maybe. When you start talking events, nowhere close.

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>>770152
Sorry anon, here's from a couple weeks ago, my friends Jesse with my helmet why one was using it.

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>>770259
see, nice

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>>770259
Messed* not Jesse. Stupid phone, also dat tactical bird nest.

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>>761289
Post pics of your very first airsoft guns.

A Y&P M9 with a press fit suppressor.

It was back on like 02?

Might be in a bin somewhere.

>>770152
>>770261
I love your pictures, always nice quality. Not to forget the people inside. As a redident slavshitter, you guys honestly have my favorite NATOish loadouts.

>>770285
Resident*
F U G

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>>770285
t-thank you

ASG CZ Scorpion Evo, y/n?

>>770287
What camera do you use anon?

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>>770289
just a Nikon D3200

>>769967
What if you have medics. If your out do you go to respawn? If so, how many respawns do you get. Or is it a "One-and-done". Maybe its a zombie game.

>Don't forget minimum engagement distances for certain fps which varies but a lot of fields I got to is pretty much standard.

There is no min-engagement or "bang kill" where I play, it causes confusion and leads to arguments. Although we do have a set fps range.

>>770338
Same with my arena. Personally, I fucking hate bang bang, its fucking retarded. Takes me straight out of the game and just seems dumb as shit. If you can't take a bb at pointblank, get better at perimeter

>>770338
The rules vary per "game-type" but the general rule in airsoft is when you are hit, you are out of play. If medics are in play, you sit there and wait. Extra lives? Head back and respawn.

>>770353
It's not "per game type", it's completely up to the organizers. You don't go to an NBA game and the referees suddenly say "3 pointers are 5 pointers time now lol"

>>770378
Better analogy, touch football, flag football, Canadian football and American football.
All four follow the same concept and use similar rules, but have twists to them.
The NBA follows one rules set, and doesn't change from game to game for the sake of competition, because it's professional and people are earning money from it.

In a tournament setting for airsoft, I assume they would use a similar setup to the pro-paintball games I know of, single game-type, capture-the-flag with single lives.

Regardless, whether or not something is a sport is subjective to the people having the discussion, seeing as competitive eating, poker and chess are called sports by some people.

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>>770378
No, but you can play a friendly match with different rules, and you can play 3v3 and it would still be baskeball

>>770338
Generally we have bigger arguments when someone has blood coming out of his face. We do have rules when it's okay to usethe ''bang bang rule'' though and when it's not though. I don't think we've had any arguments this year regarding the ''bang bang rule''. On the other hand we've had quite a bit of complaints about people overshooting at short distances.

>>770378
Lots of variations on different sports.
Look at 3 on 3 hockey. Lots of different rules but they still have icing and off sides, they are just handled differently. Goalie makes a save, its not a new face off, just have to cross the blue line.

Its still hockey and its still a sport.

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>>770280

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>>770152
>tfw my Sony A7 is coming in tomorrow so I can take high resolution full frame kit pics

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>>770533
That's good, I hope /asg/ gets more pictures. Meanwhile, some other pictures the org. just posted

>>770425
The guy with the VOG pouches in the wrong place looks either battle worn or disgusted with a fart. It's hard to tell.

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>>770280

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>>770280

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>>770280
Got back into the game this time last year.

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>>770618
With the exception of the magazines, I find Army make fairly decent pistols.

I wish they (or someone else) would get round to making a Series 70, just for wall hanging.

>>761289
Why isnt this thread in /k/ or /toy/?
It isnt an alternative sport and it isnt wrestling.

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>>770280
Probably the biggest regret of my airsoft career.

>>770822
this is bait

>>770822
>>770823
>airsoft career
It's neither a sport nor a hobby, it's now a vocation apparently.

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>>770280
started this spring

>>770897
/toy/ doesn't want bb/air/airsoft guns.
/asp/ fits better, airsoft is a physical game with rules.

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>>770792
Army's new 1911s' quality is surprisingly good.
My R29 has decent finishing and internals, but it broke my heart when TM grips doesn't fit on it.

I doubt they will make S70. It's just not worth it, compares to R29 and R30.
R29 and R30 have their uniqueness as a 1911.
S70 is just too similar to a M1911A1, in terms of an airsoft product.

>>770941
>>770792

How's the R45? I've been eyeing it for a while.

>>770946
I don't like it because the grip is too small for my hand.
And you know it's mag is even smaller than normal size 1911 mags, which already have disadvantages compare to double stack mags.
Low FPS too, with that short inner barrel.

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>>766562

Get one of these.

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dumping pictures.

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dumping cont

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maybe a repost or two from last thread?

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This was from the old Code Red before they relocated. RIP Trenches

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>>761289
since ACH is too heavy for civi shit,and I don't feel like spending 1k usd on bicycle helmet with rails.

Who makes a good bump helmet w/NVG mount that's worth a toss?

budget 50-200 usd

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>>770280

>>763002
>>761585
cute ladyboy :3

>>761289

The fuck is LARPing bullshit?

If you faggots want to be "operators", then why don't you fucking enlist and earn it?

>>774200
I am enlisted.
I've done two tours of Afghanistan doing surveillance and target acquisition.

I still like toy guns.
In the army we don't get to shoot people for fun and laugh about it.

>be 25 years old
>wanted to do airsoft when I was younger
>no friends wanted to
>Feel like im too old to do it.

Life is suffering.

>>770822
I'm the one arguing that airsoft isn't a sport, not to move the thread.

Just so people know I'm not that guy.

>>774211
Once you leave the weekend warrior scene and get into the larger 48/72 hour "operations", then you'll see that it's going to be more 20 somethings since they're going to have jobs to afford the hobby.

>>774218
2-3 day operations? Damn.

>>770443
I play with adults, we all agreed that the bang kill is problematic Not trying to change anyones mind one way or the other.

We also don't try to point blank each other in the face. We do have a surrender rule, but its not that same. If I have you dead to rights, I may ask you to call it, that person can still refuse and try to kill me.

I was generally making the point that airsoft isn't played the same, and has no specific set of rules.

>>774225
>airsoft isn't played the same,
So just like nearly every other sport out there.

anyone know any cheap snow clothes, you know the ones that you just pull over your regular outfit?

>>774468
How cheap?

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>>774468
Carharts operate innafarm

>>770830
Alright, I understand why people are arguing the sport side, but how the fuck is it at least not a hobby?

>>774491
It is definitely a hobby. Unless you're getting paid to do it, which is extremely rare but possible.

>>774468
https://grey-shop.ru/index.php?route=product/product&path=121_63&product_id=851

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>>774468
This kind of thing?:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/White-Camouflage-Snow-Camo-Hunting-Winter-Coveralls-/151881428403?var=451071415103&hash=item235cd6adb3:m:mxyADDVyqpGZjMLPbrnUQSA

>>774534
>>774539
thanks

What game map would you make in to an accurately scaled airsoft site if you could, given a sensible budget?

>>774565
Any answer other than de_dust2 is invalid

>>774565
>>774593
Nah, office is where its at. But the old custom office_extended. Functional elevators, huge map, lots of entry ways, and its cool as fuck.
With the huge arena you could always limit down sections if you dont have enough people

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>>774565
Bridges of Druzhina.

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>>774565
Best CoD, best map.

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>>774539
The facility at Raid on Rostov actually reminded me of something straight from STALKER.

>>774593
>People shouting TONNES LIT FOR 12, BOMB MID, WATCH CAT WATCH CAT

>>774565
Probably COD2 Carentan.

>>774392
No, not at all. Most people know how Baseball is played, at least a general understanding.

I've just proved that everyone plays airsoft differently. If I haven't, please give me a list of rules, because I can give to you a list of rules for baseball.

>>774491
Its definitely something, I think a hobby fits best.

>>774225
It's rarely the kids who cry about hits.
But yea, we only use the bang bang rule when the other guy is 'dead to rights'. I don't think there's been a single argument about people abusing the bang bang rule. Overshooting happens almost every other week.

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>>774840
Do finger pistol bangouts count as abusing the bangout rule?

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>>770280
pre-hop up construction, its in rough shape these days though, had it long before getting into the actual sport though

was a lot more powerful than it had any business being since it's so inaccurate

>>774215
You sound like that guy, do you post the same shit on paintball general as well?

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>>774840

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>HIGH SPEED LOW HANG

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Rate this full metal G&G

>>774895
3 out of 18

>>774895
>Not an SR25/10

>>774895
I'm feeling a solid five, light six.

>>774895
5.56/10

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Loadout list on last image

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>>775021

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>>775023
Present and seen:
>Blue/whit Telyneshka
>6SH112
>VKBO EMR BDU
>Replica 6B28
>6B34
>EMR Patrol pack (came with vest)
>Saperska
>GHK74 w/ real plum kit
>Dboys GP25
>SSO 'Fresh' Balaclava

Present and unseen
>Plash/palatka
>Claymore (Until I turn it into a MON-50)
>Mags
>10xVOG rounds (need the EMR pouches for them)
>Winter EMR
>Black boots
>Baofeng w/ correct looking pressel/headset
>Jr Sergeant rank slides
>GSSh-01
>Water bottle (wrong type for VDV)
>Russian army kettle

Obviously on top of this would need water/food/ammo etc, but what do you guys think?
Also, post loadouts.

>>774104
OPS Core bump is only a little over your budget and worth every penny.

so I don't really get it, its all honor system? I went paintballing a few times and had to deal with insufferable people wiping the paint off. I cant imagine dealing with that in a game where you don't even have a physical mark left over

>>775049
People like that get shot the fuck out of. If I see someone isn't calling hits I go for fingers.

>>774895
1/gay

>>775021
>>775023
>>775036
Super nice Polite People loadout... jelly as fuck!

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>>775050
Bingo, they actually enforce that at my field, "if they don't feel it, go for soft spots, they'll call it then"

>>775073
Thanks mang, I've spent like £150 a month on it for like 8 months

>>774205
>I've done two tours of Afghanistan doing surveillance and target acquisition.

Oh....you mean like sitting on your ass and watching drone footage?

Why don't you try to get into regiment, or SFAS, or CAG, instead of wasting your time LARPing like a faggot child.

>>775087
Awwww POG tears are delicious.

>>775078
It happens to us too. Until you have everything and then you keep spending a bit more

>>775021
>>775023
>>775036
10/10

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>>775074
mein negger

>>774817
And I can tell you all the rules that are ignored or changed when other people play baseball, just like Airsoft.

>>775021
>>775023
>>775036
10/10
That Russian digi-flora really is the mutt's nuts, and you AK74M looks awesome.

Also, are you in student halls or a youth offenders institute?

>>775137
Thanks mang, Sadly it is the wrong gun (for polite people) as it's a fixed stock one with plum furniture.

I appreciate my room is pretty dingy. It's a barracks room.

slavsoft best soft

>>775074
Us the barrett a springer or a gas gun? I never seen one in person before.

>>774817
That's nice.

I couldn't tell you a single rule for baseball, personally. Try a sport that's actually played worldwide?

Soccer, for instance. Playing on the school field is completely different to playing at Wembley. Does that mean it's not a sport?

>>775036
Where did you get the russian camo? All I can find for a decent price is trousers.

>>775192
>Decent price

Shit man. You won't make it in slavsoft.
But for what it's worth I'll post up all the Russian shops I can think of that do EMR

Where to buy EMR/Digi flora:
>545-shop.com
>https://grey-shop.ru/
>http://frontowiec.com.pl/index.php
>http://stores.ebay.co.uk/profru/
>http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/cerebral-id/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
>http://stores.ebay.co.uk/militaryru/
>http://stores.ebay.co.uk/sovrustime/
>http://stores.ebay.co.uk/russiangearandcamouflagestore/
>http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/aviabes/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
>http://specialrussianshop.com/
>http://www.soviet-propaganda.com/
>http://www.soviet-power.com/
>http://www.sovietmilitarystuff.com/


Use your head when looking on these sites, some of them have engrish some english. Remember to check the Russian gear section and not the soviet one. It's an easy mistake to make.

>>775228
With 545-shop, which is my personal favourite for price, if you go onto Facebook and message a guy called Alexander Morev then he will help you out. He is on the 545 shop Facebook page.

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>>774211
Dude, I started about three months from my 25th bday and have been going pretty strong for about two years now. Most people who I play with are in the 18-30 bracket. Hell, one guy who's my age showed up for the first time a few weeks ago as a rental, and then showed up the next week fully kitted out because he could afford it. Now he's a regular and shows up almost every week.

>>774849
>mfw someone tried pulling that Sunday during a game of TTT.
Had a mighty kek at that before I shot him in the plate carrier.

Hey guys, I read the pastebin on getting started. I'm not really new to airsofting, played a few years back but I got out of it because my jg guns would shit out after a few games.

Now I want to get back into airsofting and I want to get some sort of P90 variant. The pastebin said to avoid echo 1 as they are shitty rebrands but my research tells me that echo 1 makes a reputable P90.

That being said, can someone recommend me a reliable P90 under $200. Preferably something that comes as a package deal with battery and charger and all that shit

>>775341
THANK YOU HUNGRY SKELETON

>>775332
People don't say to avoid Echo 1 because they're shitty rebrands, but because they're rebrands. You don't really get a good sense of the potential quality of the gun and you don't know what they might have modified or changed. Shitty fake trades don't help. Anyway, hate to break it to ya, but there is no reliable P90 under $200. The design just has some problems. The only good P90 out of the box is the Tokyo Marui, though, you're in luck because the TM is $227 from Echigoya, so a modest increase. TM magazines are also a bit pricey, but their mid-caps are top tier and have the fake bullets. Don't even bother with the hi-caps. They're shit you have to take out of the gun to wind.

Of course, it also doesn't come with its own battery and charger, but you should be getting your own quality batteries and smart charger, so that's nothing special. I mean, if you bought a package deal and used a trickle charger, you'd probably end up with whatever shitty P90 you bought shitting out on you eventually just because of damage to the battery over time.

>>775349
I remember hearing that Classic Army makes (or made) a good P90

>>775351
Nope. It's sportline. They never made a proline. The optic on the one with the RDS doesn't even eliminate parallax.

>>770280
my first airsoft gun was a GBB gen 2 glock 17 (can't remember the company) with full trades

sadly I dropped it and lost the pieces

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last old picture, Blacksheep's last good game Cove I.

This is about half my squad passed out on a hilltop, maybe 15 minutes later we'd awaken to a 3 hour firefight, one of the best airsoft battles I've had.

But for now we slept after 18ish hours of combat and treking some rough terrain to get to the combat.

>>775349
How does a shitty battery shorten the lifespan of the gun? Apologies if that's a dumb question

>>775370
Shorten the lifespan of the battery, so it dies faster. I've literally seen people think their gun is busted because their shitty battery was worn down to only about 20 minutes of use. But a shitty battery can also give uneven voltage and amperage, causing damage to the trigger contacts and the motor.

>>775389
Ah gotcha, thanks

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>>775162
It's an aeg, its also is not mine, that shits all metal and its fuckheavy, id never use one but I looks beast and the bipod helps. I prefer my own sniper

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>>775045
if, I was going to buy ops core; I would buy the FAST Carbon Helmet Then again the problem still lies with not want to spend $600+ on an bicycle helmet with rails.

if I had access to an obscene amount of money no doubt with a pvs-14 on top- but, alas,thanks anyhow.

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Rate my old kit /asg/

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>>775535
And yeah the rig was riding like shit in these pics with the rear sagging, wasn't aware of it then.

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>>770280

>>775535
where did you find your professional seamstress to do that?

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>>775468
>Xbox
>Titanfall
>M82
>L96

I feel this is bait. Did I fall for it?

>>775087

Not him but he already answered you

>because then you don't get to shoot people for fun and laugh about it

fucking autist i swear

>>775514
I don't get your counterpoint. It makes no sense.

https://tnvc.com/shop/ops-core-fast-base-jump-shell/

Ticks all your options off....

>>774840
>I don't think there's been a single argument about people abusing the bang bang rule.

Well maybe not where you play and thats truly great. But I'm sure other people here who enjoy the hobby have been to an event with the guy who sprints around screaming bang. Some organizers try to limit this by saying you have to wait a few seconds between" bangs", but no one seems to listen to this one.

What comes naturally is to draw a pistol when the bang screamer comes into your room and slot him. Then he might cry that I was to close and then I'll have to leave.

Bang kill distances are constantly misjudged or used improperly. The best rule, IMHO, is you call hit when the BB impacts, no minimum engagement.

>>775188
Baseball is played worldwide, ever traveled in your life?

And yeah, college and pro football have different rules but the general understanding is the same, the core rules.

Are we to assume that to people shooting each other is airsoft? Because you don't need airsoft guns to do that, you could use paintball or nerf, or a sack of tennis balls. What truly defines airsoft as a sport, what makes it unique?

As far as I can tell, the only thing that is consistent are the airsoft guns themselves, and I don't think a sport is defined by equipment alone.

>>774878
No, But paintball isn't a sport, its faggotry.

>>775050
Bingo, light them up, get closer, light them up again, continue till rage.

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>>775544

>>775599
The best rule isn't always the safest rule. Or even the most financially sound rule. My local CQB field's bang rule is 2 syllables, feet planted, dead to rights. It's also a courtesy, meaning you shoot because you got scared/not dead to rights/finger slipped, you don't get in trouble unless you're doing it constantly and just to be a dick. There's a fair amount of newbies and kids who don't get the bang-kill rule straight off, but there's even more arguments when we have people shooting too close. We have a little conversation at the middle of the field and we're done with it. Usually no problems after that.

>>775607
>Are we to assume that to people shooting each other is airsoft?
As much as passing a ball over a net classifies ping-pong, tennis, badminton, and volleyball. You don't bring a ping-pong paddle to a badminton game, and you don't return a volleyball serve with a tennis racquet. I mean, you COULD, but then you wouldn't be playing what everyone understands as one of those sports, would they?

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Grunt kit is best kit

>>775820
Agreed. I like it when people turn up in basic kit/webbing, it's a nice change to all the operator gear + guns bristling with lasers/torches/dragon dildos.

How much extra range would a 450fps aeg have over a 350fps aeg (assuming both have equally good hop units)?

>>775036
>Dboys GP25
How well does this work, and is it worth the extra weight?

>>775344
Everybody aiming at that poor fuck and nearly 0 TD.
God anon...

>>775856
Assuming all else is equal it'd be about 30ft or so. Every 3fps generally equates to about a foot of range. http://mackila.com/airsoft/atp/

>>775856
It's pretty good. I use it a lot in ambushes and cqb, if you're not a sneaky breeki it's not worth the weight though.

>>775535
for fuck's sake, I told you 3 times alreay it's 10/10 if you had a longer barrel G3 and not one with an MP5 handguard

>>775820
>grunt kit
>aks74u

>>774890
Tactical truck nutz.

Is there such a thing as low profile thermal lens eyepro?

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>>775565
What are hobbies?

>>774211
I never get those "I need to have friends to do everything, or I am not doing it" hobbies/sports/life choices/whatever you want to call.
I guess I born forever alone.

>>775710
Those examples seem a bit more fleshed out than airsoft.
I mean if airsoft is:
shoot each other

Than say tennis would be:
Pass a ball to each other, over a net, don't hit the net, ball can only bounce one each side & inside the lines, etc.

Also, I'm not going to argue the bang kill rule with you. Use whatever rules you feel comfortable with to enjoy the hobby. At our field we think the bang kill does more harm than good, and every player we have there agrees.

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I wanted to show this to you guys.

A website out there wants to sell these things for $700. Fortunately for me they had a picture of it and I was able to copy it.

You can make this for around $100, and it works great for taking out vehicles. The only down side is that it cools down quickly if used too often, limiting the range.

>>776154
A sport having more rules doesn't make it more a sport. Golf is knocking a ball into a hole in few strikes with a club. There are no rules to determine how many strokes constitutes par on a given course, no rules as to how big the course is, or the layout. But despite all these vagueries, golf is still a sport.

Airsoft ultimately comes down to if you get hit, you're out of play. There are modifications on this, and other conditions that might take you out of play (such as a bang kill or a knife/tap-out), there are also other conditions that might bring you back into play (medic rule, respawn) but the core of it is bbs propelled by an airsoft gun that hit your person and gear take you out of play. This is universal among pretty much every widely played airsoft game, from back-yard dicking around to full-scale milsim events. What more regulation do you need?

>>776163
new meme?

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>>776075
We all have the hobby of airsoft and vidya, anon. Not all of us have such shit taste.

>>774069
this looks pretty fucking cool

>>776276
>A sport having more rules doesn't make it more a sport

I think it does, matter of fact so does Webster. Also, plenty of rules in golf.

>if you get hit, you're out of play

We talking about Dodgeball?

>>777264
>We talking about Dodgeball?
Which is exactly why the equipment is part of what defines a sport when compared with others of similar rule sets. Back to badminton, tennis, volleyball, ping pong, etc.

>>777264
Webster only cares that there ARE rules and that they are consistent during the course of play. ie, regulated. And what does dodgeball have to do with things? Did I say rubber ball that hits you takes you out of play? No, I said bbs propelled by an airsoft gun that hit you.

But funny that you bring that up, because dodgeball is a great example of a sport with many variations and rulesets played casually for hobby sake. Hell, it took a Vince Vaughn movie for it to get any sort of professional national league. We've already discussed why Airsoft really doesn't lend itself to professional play, and that's why any professional leagues have folded, but it doesn't disqualify Airsoft's status as a sport.

>>776682
meh

Looking at buying a first gun. The fields around me are mostly CQB, so I was thinking one of these two things:

3-shot M3 shotgun, mostly because it's cheap and I already have some shells from my backyard airsoft days.

$75 preowned mystery pistol from Airsoft Megastore

I'd consider AEG mystery box but the nearby, $15 a day field is pistols/shotguns only vs Gamepod which is an hour and a half away and $35 a day.

Opinions? Shotgun is obviously cheaper by a margin, but a pistol I'm more likely to keep using after I upgrade to a proper primary.

>>777526
Fuck I never realized fields were that expensive in 'merica.
3-shot are shit. If you have low budget just get a cheap JG G36 or MP5

>>777533
Er, $30 for Gamepod. $30 seems to be pretty average around here. I'm honestly not that surprised, it's hard to keep prices reasonable when insurance and (especially around here) real estate is so expensive. Most of these places are only open for airsoft 2-3 times a week as well. For comparison the local paintball field is $15-20 if you have your own gear, but you have to buy paintballs from them.

>>777542
Here it's like 10-15 euro, most of them only open saturday and sunday

>>777423
>tfw no snaggle toothed Japanese qt3.14 with maxillary prognathism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o3pnakCy9s
Video from the one of the guys I rolled with.

>>777589
7/11

>>777589
9/11 would play with

>>777542
Its about the same price in Canada.
30-35 bucks for a weekend day.

The arena I play in lets you play from 8pm - 11pm for 10 bucks on weekends.

>>777589
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o3pnakCy9s
That was ridiculously boring. Guitar music over 90% standing around and reviving team mates.

That's what I expect in a big milsim game, but for YouTube? Give us a highlight of shots, cool moves, or some shit that's not you medicing for 5 minutes.

>>777621
That would be making MilSim something that it's not. And if you make it out to be some video game killfest, that's when you get the speedsofters and shit involved.

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>>776075
sex, swimming, boxing, airsoft, and sleeping, friend

>>777271
If you look at it that way, the sport came before the equipment. The game was know, and the rackets came later for a different variation of the same sport.

On the other hand, airsoft guns are toys first. Later someone decided how use them to play with others. This play does not a sport make.

So it stands, equipment does not make a sport, it may distinguish it from other sports, but first it needs a specific rule set.

>>777357
Webster cares a great deal about rules when It comes to sports, he needs them to be specific and concise.

Airsoft as a whole is much too big for it to be hammered down by specific rules, nor does it want to be. You can enjoy the hobby many different ways, sometimes (though rarely) a person may not even fire their airsoft gun at another.

To give you some help, you might be able to consider Capture the Flag with airsoft guns as a sport. Like how some people think of Poker as a sport, but they don't consider Playing Cards a sport.

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>>777621
>cool moves

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>>777630

>>777703
You know, come to think of it, my example of CTF doesn't even hold up as a sport.

You may have a specific rule set put forth, but airsoft by its nature doesn't allow for reasonable enforcement or adherence to rules. Its all on the honor system, any competitive gameplay would destroy that, if not atleast call into question.

So after further thought, airsoft lacks the basic mechanisms to insure fair play.

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>>777423
>>777807
>Not even posting any of the best girls

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>>777867

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>>777695
>the sport came before the equipment
No. It doesn't distinguish itself as a sport until the equipment.

>>777703
The use of "specific" does not mean "set in stone" or else that would disqualify dozens of sports which have different regulations based on league etc. It means in this context "Free from ambiguity". This means that there are no gray areas in the rules and that they stay consistent. It means the rules do not change in the middle of play, or aren't supposed to. Though I don't know why you get so uppity about Webster when the Oxford definition is in greater circulation and even less stringent. Or maybe you're just looking for your point to be proven true?

>>777720
>airsoft by its nature doesn't allow for reasonable enforcement or adherence to rules.
Of course it does. There are refs and admins who go around checking people's integrity, watch for breaking rules. For hobby sport purposes, that's all you really need. It's not enough for professional play to be worth it, but as it's been said time and again, you don't need a professional league to be considered a sport.

>>777867
I don't give a shit bro.

>>777542
25$ - saturdays only here

>>777663
That's pretty Africacore

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>>777542
>mfw my local field is $15 all day until sundown

>>777695
>equipment does not make a sport, it may distinguish it from other sports
Thanks for repeating exactly what I said.

>>777984
Looks like a bunch of preteens wearing rental gear.
What is it supposed to be?

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>>777995
If those are rental gears I'm not even gonna buy my own shit.

>>777542
meanwhile its cost me 20 bucks for a full day on a 120 acre field

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>Cyber Monday soon
But I have to buy presents for people, wallet.

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>>777664
It was rhetorical, you asshats.

Local airsoft store is having a grab bag sale.

http://www.torontoairsoft.com/Boxes-of-Mystery--Double-Happiness-G28-Box_p_4771.html

Is it worth it? My primary broke and I need a replacement. I don't care about the model.

>>778138
Just remember that mystery boxes contain all the guns they COULDNT sell.
There's a reason they didn't sell.

>>778171
Actually, those Sportline SCARs have been out of stock for a couple months now. The JG G36 on the other hand, literally couldn't give them away.

>>778138
You play at Siege Anon?

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Never been to an OP, can anyone who has weigh in? So is it more fun to be on the OPFOR team, which is usually the Green/Miscellaneous/Russian team? Just seems like the somewhat more casual team would be more fun to be on due to the disconnect from the other team which from what I've seen is usually the multicam M4 tryhards

>>778221
OPFO/Civilian tends to be more fun than the multicam try hards
But it really depends on the players on the team and the event

>>778241
I disagree on New England
M81 rules in those woods.

>>777720
Finally a reasonable person.

Until someone makes a hit detection system that's not based on honor call airsoft will stay somewhat more of a hobby than a sport, and even if that is fixed, it would be more of a speedsoft thing similar to paintball, which socal already does, mostly around LA there is airsoft teams which will do 5v5 or 3v3 depending and in a small to medium cqb field.

So idk why you guys are so bent on classifying it as a sport if it would take it closer to the speedsoft you guys hate so much.

>>778243
Thats kinda what I figured, I'd imagine the Multicams tend to be kind try hard and Armchair general-ey like they are at my local field

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>GHK gives us this stupid shit
>no steel 5.45 curve mags
>no drum magazine to go with the new RPK
>not even a 45 round magazine for it
>nope
>here have a magazine for a russian gun with a fucking samurai painted on the side
thanks GHK

>>778214
I play at ultimate.
I got a coupon for siege and I've been meaning to check it out

Greetings, fellow player.

Newfag to the sport here- I've played for a year now and still haven't got a proper rifle. Do you have any recommendations under 200 bucks? AEG preffered, since I play in cold weather.

My current loadout is kind of a shame, Cyma G18 with a cheap Pumpgun, did what I needed from it so far though.

I've encountered way too many gear bitches not playing the objectives at all, why's that?

>>778328
Cyma AK 040 series is bretty gud.

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>>777984
I so want to do a Kaneda P90.

>>778411
Uhg looks like one of the new shitty csgo skins

>>778255
New Englander that wears Fleck/Partizan/Tibet Fleck disagrees.

>>778425
Well at least its different to the standard black/tan/olive or tacticool paintjobs you see in airsoft.

>>761289

Saw the retailer guide doesn't have Echigoya. Best place to get Tokyo Marui shit imported into the US. Cheaper than Redwolf and Ehobbyasia. They also have a store in California and a warehouse based in Texas, so shit usually gets through customs just fine.

>>778449
Deer hunter /airsoft player agrees.

>>778462
Theres a reason why guns are painted like that. Its to avoid detection. Makes them harder to see. unlike a bright red gun.

>>778171
Yeah, I know its just to clear stock. But I'm hoping for a good pull.

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>>778468
Glocks? I need a new sidearm. Either a trade block or the tmp9, I already have a holster that I bet I could get the glock to fit in since so far a 1911, and a Dan Wesson 6" revolver have both fit

>>777807
>>777867
Is it weird I am turned on by these pics even though they're fully clothed?

>>778897
Girl in the LAPD kit is a gravure model if you wanna look up her softcore porn swimsuit DVDs.

Might do real porn too. Never know with girls who list "talent" as their occupation.

>>777882
>No. It doesn't distinguish itself as a sport until the equipment.

A ball is not a sport, an airsoft gun is not a sport.

>Free from ambiguity

Airsoft is ambiguous

>hobby sport

Your cracking.

Professional league? You couldn't reasonably enforce rules in any competitive manner. The ref is not in the bush with me, I don't want him there, he's not with the guy I'm shooting at, the only thing to get him to call it is friendship. Get 2 teams together, these teams don't know each other, listen after the game for all the bullshit. You've done this experiment before if you have been to any large event. This "bullshit" factor can ruin events and it most certainly casts any sense of fairness far to the wind. In the end, the event was merely more than a bunch of dudes shooting guns, sometimes at each other, its not a sport.

>>778945
airsoft is not sport
ball is not sport
ball is life
airsoft is life
love

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>>778985
>>778945

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OH SHIT NIGGER IT'S HAPPENING GET DOWN FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>778945
Sure, go play tennis with a football and a ping-pong paddle, tell me how that works out for you.

>>779020
Dude pootball is amazing

>>778523
Canadian has no strong feelings one way or the other.

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check out these russian loadouts guys

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>>779162
>>779164

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>>779162
>>779164

I rub my dick on every piece of gear or accessory I sell before shipping it out.

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After a month waiting for the propper parts I finally replaced my AK barrel

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>>779215

>>778411
That bright red color turns me on like when I saw a Ferrari.
>>778605
That's why the site is called "Fashion snap", fashion is their thing.

Is there any news about the release date for the Marui AA12? Haven't been keeping up to date with airsoft news

>>779244
no clue
I'd say late 2016