Dave sums up Vince Russo's career in one tweet

>>3119641

> 2001+1+5+7+3
> Meltzer BTFO of anything except Omega's asshole while he gaps

Anon you can't pick both.

>>3119641
omg straight SAVAGE

YAAAS DRAG HIM KING

if WWF never had Austin at the same, WCW would have kept raping them

everything outside of Rock/Austin during the attitude era was no better than any other era

Meltzer once made an analogy that Russo is like an offensive coordinator who did great with a bunch of hall of famers once, then he went 2-14 a bunch of times.

Russo is the Jeff Fisher of pro wrestling.

Without Austin in all those legendary storylines and segments that Russo wrote, he would not have been as big. Russo living in Magoos head rent free.

>>3119900
I thought Russo was only in charge of the mid card

He never had control of the main event story lines

Does anybody actually like Russo or is it just memeing?

>everyone being worked by Meltz
He just likes being contrarian sometimes for the lol's. The fact is RAW's ratings skyrocketed under Russo, and to imply Austin was the sole reason for this is so disingenuous. With Vince's blessing Russo created an environment where guys like Austin could flourish and become popular, and where people wanted to watch the whole show beginning to end. Austin was Austin for a full two years before they overtook WCW, by the way. And don't forget Austin was in WCW and ECW prio to 1996.

If anything it's a testament to Russo's booking that Austin got and stayed so huge.

>>3119919
hello wolfcuck

>>3119911
He wrote the scripts (and Ferrara when he came in mid 98). His title wasn't head writer for nothing. All the Austin stuff; zamboni, kidnapping Vince and bang 3:16, cement truck, hospital, beer truck, the Stooges etc. have Russo's handprints all over.

There is a video of him working with Dude Loves character on youtube.

>>3119919
No. Russo wasn't writing in 1997. Austin was Austin in 1997. After Russo left the ratings went to their highest in 2000

If Russo was that good he would have saved WCW

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>>3119919
>>everyone being worked by Meltz
>He just likes being contrarian sometimes for the lol's. The fact is RAW's ratings skyrocketed under Russo, and to imply Austin was the sole reason for this is so disingenuous. With Vince's blessing Russo created an environment where guys like Austin could flourish and become popular, and where people wanted to watch the whole show beginning to end. Austin was Austin for a full two years before they overtook WCW, by the way. And don't forget Austin was in WCW and ECW prio to 1996.
>If anything it's a testament to Russo's booking that Austin got and stayed so huge.

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>>3119641

>>3119924
>After Russo left the ratings went to their highest in 2000

they did all the highest ratings in mid 1999

>>3119930
kek

>>3119924
>No. Russo wasn't writing in 1997.
Yes he was. And wouldn't you know... 1997 is the first year WWF had a show that didn't suck and that looked like it could actually compete with WCW finally.

>If Russo was that good he would have saved WCW
It was a poorly run company that was too far gone. At least Russo kept the ratings from tanking faster than they otherwise would have. Russo was operating in desperation mode.

>>3119924
>Russo wasn't writing in 1997

Yes he was, he became the head writer in early 97 when their product was getting their asses kicked by dubya cee dubya and he told Vince that the product was shit.

>After Russo left the ratings went to their highest in 2000

And Russo laid the groundwork for that in the years prior with his writing. They managed to ride the wave around year after Russo left. Also the ratings were about just as big in 1999.

>If Russo was that good he would have saved WCW

It was a mess by the time he got there. A lot of factors played part in WCW's demise and Russo is not even near top of the list.

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>>3119641
Meltzer is full of shit. Sad how many people blindly accept what Meltzer says without looking up numbers themselves.

Stats courtesy of nWoWolfpacTV.

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>>3120005
>Stats courtesy of nWoWolfpacTV.

>>3120005
did Spike not specifically tell Dixie Carter to never hire Russo again?

How can you explain that wolfcuck

>>3120016
Prove him wrong. I'm not holding my breathe.

>>3120005
Where's your stat for Spike TV dumping TNA because of Russo.

>>3120005
>the journalist with a 40 year track record is full of shit!!
>listen to me instead, some sad NEET nostalgiafag who can't stop living in the past and has serious issue moving on with life!!
Sad

>>3120019
>>3120046
Where is the proof of that?

>>3120063
>Dave Meltzer is reporting that the reason TNA was so secretive about rehiring Vince Russo as a creative consultant was because Spike TV hates Vince Russo and they didn't want their television partners to know about it.

https://www.cagesideseats.com/tna-impact/2014/7/20/5920175/spike-tv-hates-vince-russo-tna

>>3120067
>Meltzer Magoo
>Credentials
>Castrated
>Marks
There, I saved everybody a couple minutes.

Big Ratings Russo working the Jew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGjYxNG8OJ8&t=16m

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>>3120019
>>3120046
>>3120067

HOLY FUCKING KEK!

https://www.cagesideseats.com/tna-impact/2014/7/20/5920175/spike-tv-hates-vince-russo-tna

>Although Meltzer didn't explain why Spike holds such strong feelings against Russo
Best part of article!

Dave insinuates Spike hated Russo & dropped TNA because they found out Russo still worked for them yet he doesn't provide any substantiated evidence to support claim - go figure. Dave states in his newsletter "Spike officials were not fans of Russo" & "made clear they wanted nothing to do with Russo" but this is simply not fucking good enough. I want proof. Give me proof. I don't think that it too much to ask.

If Spike disliked Russo so much why was he head writer for 5+ years? Russo worked directly with Spike representative Scott Fishman during that time. Having heard Russo's version of why Spike dropped TNA, I believe it's way more plausible.

According to Meltzer, in January 2011, Spike TV requested TNA bring back the Main Event Mafia to increase ratings, because the ratings had stopped growing at they rate they had been few year prior. Spike officials lost faith in Dixie Carter when she failed to deliver Kevin Nash & Booker T which resulted in Eric Bischoff working more directly with Spike on behalf of TNA & gaining more power.

According to Russo, Spike grew to adore Eric Bischoff.

When Executive Vice President of Creative and Talent Relations John Gaburick got rid of Eric Bischoff specifcally (& Jeff Jarrett/Bruce Prichard i.e. people in positions of power he considered a threat) that was the beginning of the end of TNA's relationship with Spike TV.

As for Dixie/Gaburick keeping Russo working as consultant from home on down-low - doesn't take genius to figure out they did this to avoid the criticism that surely would have came with it from dumb smarks like yourselves.

>>3120067
>Le Meltz as a source
So that shit is made up

>>3120121
If Spike disliked Russo all Meltzer needed to do is provide a name & preferably a quote from somebody at Spike stating as such. But he doesn't.

His journalistic integrity is already suspect due to virtually never providing any sources & although he does have credibility, he's proven time & time again he also has agendas & biases against people he dislikes.

>>3119641

Hahahhah, Russo must've touched a nerve ripping this mark on a weekly basis.

I'm loving all these podcasts popping up from actual people in the business as it takes money out of this clowns pocket.

Go blow your load to some Who Japan match, Dave.

>>3120147
This. didn't know it was possible to castrate somebody that many times.

https://youtu.be/xRI2zmlyK6A?t=7m35s

Hey lads
>>3120019
>>3120046
>>3120067
you just got btfo by
>>3120115
stay in your lane faggots

>>3119661
the tv skits and in ring promos were better back then.

>>3119924

1 - The sole time Russo and Ferrera got their hands on creative from Oct 99 to Jan 2000, ratings actually started steadily climbing back up for the first time in over a year

2 - If you listen to Schiavone's podcast with Conrad Thompson, he says that Russo and Ferrara coming in actually gave the company a kick up the ass when it needed it and actually brought some vision and structure for the first time in 2 years. However this was stifled at the end of his first spell in charge when the AOL Time Warner guys started meddling with creative and Russo basically just became another part of the booking committee before leaving and then rejoining for the New Blood era where about 10 different people were calling the shots. This is literally coming from someones mouth who was there at the time.

3 - TN fucking A was doing 2 million viewers under Russo, in todays metrics that would be over 2/3rds of WWEs current audience.

>>3119661
>everything outside of Rock/Austin during the attitude era was no better than any other era

You mean the main event scene in general? The McMahon-Helmsley era shitted on early-mid 1999, a lot of 1998, and today's RAW/SD.

>>3120277
>The McMahon-Helmsley era

Yeah and who was the number one babyface at the time?

>>3119661
Any AE episode shits on todays product when it comes to entertaining tv programming. No 20 minute pointless matches in the middle of the show, constantly something interesting is happening somewhere on those shows.

>>3119641
based big dick dave BTFO russonetty

>>3120279

Yes, The Rock was awesome, but stuff like Jericho/Triple H and Stephanie was also good.

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>>3120005
>Stats courtesy of nWoWolfpacTV

>le meltz
TNAss had their highest ratings when Russo was writing their TV.

>wolfcuc is regularly posting on /asp/ now
The state of this man's life.

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>>3120595
The stats measure up though. It's not hard to google "TNA ratings". Your essentially mocking somebody who is right! WOW you're smart...

http://www.gerweck.net/tv-ratings/

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>>3120623
being on asp is bad but obsessing over BASED Wolfy is even worse! he's totally lives in your head rent free

REMINDER: this is the face of wolfpac's haters

>>3120635
fucking tone drones.

>>3120277
S'up, Haitch?

Russo haters BTFO in this thread

>>3120005
BIG VIEWS VINNY
BIG RATINGS RUSSO