Has there ever been a worse wwe champion?

>>3101283
Nash.

>>3101283
Reigns.

>>3101283
Yes, any champion not named Jinder Mahal.

>>3101283
Miz was just as bad.
Nash was worst.

>>3101283
Great khali

Dean

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>>3101283

>>3101303
This

>>3101306
rent free

>>3101299
Diesel's reign at least went out with a bang.

Miz had that sick FCA match against Mundo.

>>3101283
The Miz

John Cena and Randy Orton

Quite some of them:
Deanetty
Sethetty
Danieletty
Mizetty
Brayetty
Shametty
Backlundetty (1993)

>>3101406
>Shitpost-etty

Absolutely not.

>>3101283
Look wise, yes

Gimmick wise, debatable

Talent wise, unlikely

>>3101283
Ambrose

Diesel
Shawn Michaels

Both raked in far less money.

>>3101283
Hard to find one, even though they are giving out that belt like candy.

>>3101283
Get worked mark
Jinder is the GOAT

>>3101447
Jinder is consistently drawing TV crowds of below 10K

>>3101283
All of them

>>3101455
And believe it or not, that's still better than at least Michael's reign where it was literally house show tier audiences for TV shows. We always make fun of our recent champions for "record lows", but they still never end up being as low as when HBK was champ. That's why it's usually something like "lowest ratings in 20 years" signifiying HBK's time when it was worse.

>>3101465
I seriously doubt there was ever a TV attendance of 4K during HBK's reign.

>>3101469
I think there was for the lowest rated RAW of all time. Also that 10k you mentioned isn't even worst of modern times. Lesnar' reign in 2014 had a 6k RAW. Not Smackdown, but RAW.

>>3101465
RAW was absolute shit during HBK's reign so it's not a fair comparison. It was an hour long, not live, production quality sucked, the show felt disjointed, commentary was awful, etc. WCW was whooping their asses quality wise at the time.

>>3101479
You mean that RAW which was a taping of a glorified house show in Germany? C'mon.

>Also that 10K you mentioned

Reading is hard.

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>>3101299
The Miz is one of the most respected wrestlers in the WWE locker room today.

AJ Styles says Miz is one tough cat: http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2016/0327/609016/aj-styles-on-if-he-got-heat-for-knocking-out-miz-tooth/

Daniel Bryan admits the Miz is right and awesome: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/09/01/wwes-daniel-bryan-tells-espn-his-televised-fight-with-the-miz-was-real/?utm_term=.3e837126939f

Foley is a Mizfit: https://www.kekbook.com/RealMickFoley/posts/1235809239782545:0
https://www.kekbook.com/RealMickFoley/posts/1385044308192370

J.R. thinks that Miz kicks some verbal ass: https://www.jrsbarbq.com/blog/50214

Don Tony & Kevin Castle Show went from saying Miz can't cut promos to Miz owning Daniel Bryan's ass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btH0K5-VjQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH-jA4aXt8c

Triple H says that the Miz is the best on the mic on the current roster: https://www.sportskeeda.com/wwe/wwe-news-triple-h-praises-the-miz-calls-him-the-best-on-the-mic-in-the-current-roster

Samoa Joe sings high praises of the Miz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dgPbuD-rCY
http://411mania.com/wrestling/samoa-joe-says-a-feud-with-the-miz-would-be-compelling/

Vince Russo thinks Miz is born in the wrong era and that he would've been a mega star in the Attitude Era: http://www.ringsidenews.com/2017/05/08/vince-russos-brand-recap-miz-wrong-era-sheamus-reckless-worker-wwes-double-standard/

Spoony went from hating Miz's botches against Dolph Ziggler on Summerslam 2014 to saying Miz is the best worker on Raw today: https://youtu.be/PLxRwyO5l-U?t=11m50s
https://twitter.com/TheSpoonyOne/status/864510396572606467

Steve Austin says that the Miz entertains him: https://youtu.be/BLdFR9CNzl0?t=32s

Mickey James appreciates the Miz: https://twitter.com/MickieJames/status/899807247127248898

Even Dave Meltzer likes a Miz Promo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3KHIBJvYgk

>>3101283
Dean 1.87 Ambrose

>>3101283
Kevin Owens

>>3101283
Seth's reign was painfully bad.

>>3101299
Miz actually got heel heat. He's underrated by seething smarks.

>>3101286
>>3101299
Stop pretending you were even old enough to see or remember Diesel's title reign.

The worst WWE champions are clearly the guys who get relegated back to the midcard after they lose title.

After losing the title Diesel/Kevin Nash remained a main eventer for another 8 years.

>>3101532
Diesel wasn't even the WWF a year after he lost the belt.

>it's totally impossible to watch 1995 on The WWE Network

>There is actually people who think Kevin Nash and HBK are the worst
KEK they were legit top guys who remained top guys in Nash case for 8 years. And is Shawn's case for rest of his career.

The worst are the guy who after winning world title got relegated back to the midcard because they were not good enough. These include

>Chris Jericho
>Eddie Guerrero
>Chris Benoit
>Rey Mysterio
>Rob Van Dam
>Great Khali
>Jack Swagger
>Dolph Ziggler
>Sheamus
>The Miz
>Christian
>Daniel Bryan
>Dean Ambrose
>Seth Rollins
>Finn Balor
>Kevin Owens
>Bray Wyatt

>>3101549
Hello Shawn

>>3101283
Bret Hart
HBK
Diesel
Carder
Del Rio
Sheamus
Bray Wyatt

>>3101533
Diesel really came into his own as a performer during his title reign. After he lost the title, ahead of the curve, he created an anti-establishment persona which was arguably the precursor to Stone Cold, and it was ground breaking in the cartoon/occupation New Generation Era. He then had successful feud with Bret, Taker & HBK before going to WCW a lighting the business on fire. WWE groomed Nash and he ultimately proved Vince was right in pushing him but unfortunately for Vince, WCW reaped the rewards because he didn't lock him down under a long term contract.

Nash wasn't a great champion but he was sure as fuck a lot better Jericho, Swagger, and Ziggler to name a few.

>>3101549
THIS!!!
my god look at those names, had no business being champion

>>3101563
kys wolfcuc

>>3101581
Your whore mother needs raped and infected with aids

>>3101283
Big Show
Khali
Nash
Miz
Sid
JBL

>>3101599
>Big Show
perennial main eventer, basically headlined WM 24 vs. Floyd, main event of RAW tomorrow
>Khali
once he got there, was not good enough to stay at the top
>Nash
was perceived as top guy by fans during his reign (unlike Jericho in 02, Dolph, Swagger who were all perceived as midcard). Became bigger star in WCW and perceived by fans to be equal to Hogan and Goldberg
>Miz
relegated to back midcard after title reign - enough said
>Sid
multi promotion main eventer star, 2x mania headliner, 4x world champ
>JBL
not the best, not the worst, would get sent bk to midcard but because he was such a GOAT heel would inevitably find himself back in main event

Please get a clue anon.

18+

jinder is one of the best wwe champions of all time

I'll give you a couple of actual worst. the miz, Sheamus, Alberto del rio, Triple h

>>3101283
Seth Rollins
The Miz
Diesel

>>3101502
Based Miz.

>>3101627
you seem to be a little confused. this thread is about terrible champions. not people's legacy dummy. things like their title reign(s)/match quality/drawing power as a champion.

>>3101637
how could I forget

jasethy
deanetty

that's how bad they were I forgot about them. WOAT

>>3101283
Eddie Guerrero
>low ratings
>low buyrates
>low attendance
>low dvd sales
>couldn't hack it (had metal breakdown, physically shot)
>sent back to midcard

Shawn Michaels
>terrible ratings
>terrible buyrates
>good attendance
>couldn't hack it (lost smile)
>became bigger & more over main eventer

Kevin Nash
>good ratings
>decent buyrates
>low attendance
>was able to cope with pressure
>became bigger & more over main eventer

Hey faggots HBK had competition in the form of WCW Hogan and the nWo

Modern stars have no competition

HBK was a bigger star and draw than anyone on the current roster not named John Cena

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>>3101646
I ain't confused. Bret, Nash, HBK, Taker should not be listed by people. They are legit legends & regardless of how bad there title reigns were they are nowhere near as worse of championas guys like Ziggler, Swagger, Bryan, Del Rio, Sheamus, Christian, Khali

>things like their title reign(s)/match quality/drawing power as a champion
well then how about providing some numbers?

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>>3101283
and don't forget Orton's latest reign, most awful of the past decade

>>3101660
Man those house shows look comfy af

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>>3101660
>They are legit legends

>>3101669

Yeah, his run was shit. But at least he knows it...

>>3101646
Criteria should be
>ratings
>buyrates
>attendance
>were they pervaded by fans as top guy when they were champion
>did they remain a top guy after title reign ended

Big Show, Nash, Sid, were perceived as top guys and remained top guys after losing title.

Benoit, Miz, Ziggler, Swagger, Christian, Bryan, Ambrose, Owens etc, despite what their fanboys might say were never perceived as legitimate top guys and not good enough to stay in main event scene

>>3101672
your lame meme doesn't work
Bret, Nash, HBK, Taker are legit legends.
they're all WWE HOF headliners (Taker will be in future) and Nash and HBK probs get another induction for nWo and DX making them 2x HOF'ers

>>3101681
Ratings are an outdated metric. It needs to be replaced by dvr watch time and engagement minutes

>>3101502
>never drew a dime
JUST

>>3101669
>>3101679
that made me kek. THE ERA OF WYATT IS NOW
then he lost the belt in like a month

>>3101283
Bray Wyatt
Dean Ambrose
Sheamus
The Miz
Batista
RVD
JBL
Big Show
Vince McMahon
Diesel
Bob Backlund
Sgt Slaughter

>>3101707
You don't have a clue. You have a list of best, decent and worst WWE Champions.

What goes on in your brain to come up with such a retarded list?

>>3101549
Would nitpick a few of those names but the general point of your post is spot on

>>3101707
>P-please take my opinion as fact!

>>3101312
Miz vs. 65 year old Lawler for title on PPV was embarrassment

fast forward to now and we have Brock vs. Braun with Cena vs. Reigns on undercard

2017 > 2011

>>3101283
The only ones close are Deannetty and the cuck Daniel Bryan

>>3101502
based

Ask yourself this:

What has Jinders title run done for anyone? Who benefits from beating him? Who has been elevated from a Jinder Mahal feud?

The answer is no one. People aren't paying to see a career jobber have average matches and average promos.

>>3101658
>Bret always lower than HBK

>>3101975

1st line: Bret with an average rating of 2.72
2nd line: HBK with an average rating of 2.7

>>3101286
fpbp

>>3101502
MIZ FINDS A WAY

>>3101799
Cena vs Reigns will main event, you utter fucking retard.

>>3101669
I blame the bad booking. Orton feud made no sense and lost the title because vince decided to throw him on raw for literally no reason.

Hogan
Austin
Rock

>>3102566
The plan was probably to make Orton champion all along to make up for last years SummerSlam.

Man, that story looked really good for a while and then it ended as one of the worst feuds in recent years.

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>>3101283
yes

Hogan, Rock, Jimmy Ocean

>>3101960
The Bollywood Boyz are the only guys to benefit from this so far and even that's debatable.

>>3101599
>JBL somehow worse than discount poo JBL

>>3101283
Druggie Hardy

>>3101283
Sheamus, Alberto Del Rio, JBL, Eddie Guerrero, & Big Show are all embarrassments to the title.

>>3104924
>Sheamus
>Eddie
>Show

gtfo

My opinion:
Sid
Jericho
Sheamus
Del Rio
Guerrero
Benoit
Ziggler
Swagger
JBL
Miz
Jasethy
Deanetty
Wyatt
Jinder

were/all all shit champions and not main event worthy. None of them should have never won the belt.

Jack Swagger, maybe not worse but he had no business winning.