NJPW product is shit.
Elgin has done more burning hammers in two years than Kobashi did in his entire career. Ishii does ten lariats a match. Okada has to hit his finisher (which used to be over like the RKO) multiple times just to beat midcarders. Omega can't decide if he belongs in a wrestling ring or a circus tent.
The fact you people actually rate this trash really concerns me, at least when meltzer does it he gets some yen under the table
>>3093479
>Omega can't decide if he belongs in a wrestling ring or a circus tent.
>>3093479
Another new pasta huh. Just as unfunny and dumb as the previous ones.
>>3093479
>multiple times just to beat midcarders
Name a midcarder that's taken a full rainmaker and kicked out
>>3093488
Kenny Omega
>>3093509
>Main Eventing Tokyo Dome, Dominion, two G1s in a row, and winning the G1
okay drone
>>3093515
Yeah that had nothing to do with half of New Japan's uppercard jumping ship to WWE, he totally would have done all those things if either AJ or Nakameme had stuck around
>>3093531
btfo
>>3093531
>>3093531
Except Kenny is way more over than AJ ever was, and he wasn't a midcarder when he got Rainmaker'd, so what the hell is your point
>>3093531
And it's been a year and a half since Nakamura and AJ left, Naito took Nakamura's place, Kenny took AJ's.
You see, New Japan does this thing called 'building new stars,' I'm aware that might be an alien word for Stamford Wives, but it means that basically, people can start out in the undercard, get over, and eventually become believable main event talents and bona fide draws.
>>3093531
With that shitty logic then Austin was always a mid carder even after beating HBK at WM14.
Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
>>3093566
WK6, but okay
>>3093566
AJ never main evented WK or even a G1 Final, legit what the hell are you talking about
>>3093566
That's literally only because AJ Styles was a more established name and brand than Kenny Omega, because AJ had been wrestling for far longer by that point.
>>3093583
Kenny's time will come as soon as they give Naito his big run on top
>>3093583
This honestly speaks volumes. Nothing against Kenny but if he can't win the big one in the minor leagues what makes people think he is anything more than a one month special on the miz intercontinental reunion tour if he made it to the pros.
>>3093594
Two theories. Either they're waiting to see if he resigns next year, or it's a long term booking story.
>>3093601
He might not if they keep pussy footing around with him. He's good enough to get on wrestlemania. Might as well do it while he's still young.
>>3093605
>Ibushi isn't a big draw
This proves you don't know jack shit about what you're talking about.
>And Kenny never winning the big one is very relevant to him being a midcarder
Yeah that's why they bumped down the IC title so Kenny could defend the US title in Kobe instead. With another gaijin too.
>>3093605
Ibushi drew 9,500 at Sumo Hall at Invasion Attack against AJ.
>>3093583
>changed the subject
yep I think we're done here
>>3093622
Yeah and he was such a big draw they didn't even put him on the poster
Holy fucking cringe at people ITT not knowing Ibushi is a big draw.
>>3093648
It's just one guy who keeps moving the goalpost to fit his illogical narrative.
>>3093674
Upper Midcarders like how Okada wrestled Marufuji, Suzuki, Cody, Makabe, and Goto
>>3093589
Omemega will never touch the IWGP championship
>>3093693
>Upper-Midcarder
>MakaBASED
HowNew.RU?
Even MiSu is pushing it. And way to not understand the Marufuji angle.
>>3093711
Has Makabe had a singles match main event since 2011?
>>3093733
He's had plenty. The big ones I can think of is against Okada at Dominion 2013 and against Ibushi at Destruction in Okayama in 2015.
>>3093744
Honestly that was a stupid question since I was making the point of Okada having a main event with him anyway. It would be moving the goalposts to specify a run at the top of the card for any real amount of time, but the point is still valid, Makabe hasn't been a top guy for awhile now.
Based New JaCHAD living in E-Drone's heads rent-free
>>3093479
>Dave doesn't really like it he is just pretending because he is on the take
This is literal delusional thinking when you cannot accept that someone has a different opinion than you.