What the fuck happened to wrestling?

smarks

>>3064885
What do you mean?
>>3064892
Smarks have always been around, do you mean social media?

>>3064885

What the fuck happened to the world?

>>3064885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiELVV9uNdg&t

>>3064885
The marks are in the ring now.

>>3064904
The decline of professional wrestling over the last 20 years is a genuine reflection of what political correctness has done to society. Save these classic videos to your hard-drives people, because it won't belong before they are removed for offending some transgender, feminist, homosexual, black, Jew, Muslim, religious nut, etc etc etc....

Roids became illegal. Despite the fact that actors (see: wrestlers) can use them with no consequence.

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>>3064885
Three things happening at once
>Bodybuilding culture of the late 80's and early 90's losing steam
>Kayfabe fully dead and buried.
>MMA's growth into the mainstream means that regular people are able to see what actual professional fighters look like.

As a result, nobody buys into a bodybuilder as anything but a bodybuilder, and even the final-boss style monster characters have to look more like "World's Strongest Man" style fit than "Mr Universe" style fit (look at Strowman and Lesnar, the few examples of genuinely successful final-boss-monster wrestlers.)

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>>3064885
we allowed females to vote and it took about 100 years for it to poison society

>>3064885
No more roids. Even though it's not a legitimate sport and it's essentially the same as actors doing roids to put on muscle mass for a role. it's fine for them but illegal for pro wrestlers.

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>>3065005
>it's essentially the same as actors doing roids to put on muscle mass for a role.
https://concussionfoundation.org/CTE-resources/what-is-CTE
It's not the same. Just because the prohibition on 'roids isn't to protect "the legitimacy of the competion" doesn't mean there isn't a legitimate reason for it. Actors, especially leading men who have stuntmen, aren't a high risk population for CTE, but wrestlers are.
Roids+CTE=BadCombo

>>3064885
Midgets used to be a side show. Now it's the main event.

>>3065040
no where on the link you posted are steroids mentioned

where is the evidence that roid usage exacerbates CTE? not doubting you, but I want to see it myself

>>3064967
>actual professional fighters
You mean manlets not big enough for real sport so they have to fight in the ufc in little meme divisions like bantamweight and featherweight with the champions being about as prestigious as the worlds strongest thirteen year old

>>3065040
This.
Testing for roids in wwe is like testing for them in movies or actual bodybuilding

>>3065040
>It's not the same. Just because the prohibition on 'roids isn't to protect "the legitimacy of the competion" doesn't mean there isn't a legitimate reason for it.
It kinda does though you retard

>>3064885
There are a few things that have made wrestling really great in the past:
1) Insane roided freaks who half-believed they actually were their characters and looked like they could legitimately snap at any moment
2) hyperegotistic narcissists who were in love with themselves
3) Good acting
4) Good writing and interesting filming techniques
#1 and #2 represent people who generally led very unhealthy lifestyles (rampant PED use, generally a lot of drinking and drugging, etc.), and WWE has appropriately taken steps to try to reduce the presence of such individuals. Unfortunately, this means getting rid of some of the magnetic presence that such people provide.
#3 and #4 require WWE to take risks with their product in order to get rewards, and for whatever reasons, probably including a lack of competition from other companies and a fear of offending children and PC types, WWE has not been willing to take more than minor risks for the last 15 years or so.
Basically, right now the WWE is mostly just so-called "technical" wrestling plus bad acting skills. But "technical" wrestling cannot carry the company, especially now that you can watch a variety of interesting legit combat sports. Pro wrestling has never been and never will be primarily based on athletic skill. It's based on charismatic acting performances and successfully creating a "big fight" and "anything could happen" sort of atmosphere. WWE has been failing to put this sort of product across, and the results speak for themselves.

>>3064892
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>>3065055
end of thread

>>3065064
I'm not a doctor, but

A: career wrestling is likely to attract a population that's already predisposed to violent crime

B: CTE increases the likelihood of violent crimes

C: Sterroid use increases the likelihood of violent crimes

Even if there isn't a catalytic effect between CTE and 'roids, both increase the likelihood of violent crimes in a population already predisposed to violent crime

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>>3065090
The prohibition is NOT to protect the legitimacy of the competition, because there is none. The prohibition is to protect the health, both mental and physical, of the wrestlers. This is a legitimate reason.

On top of the exposure to CTE that wrestlers have but bodybuilders/actors don't, actors and show-bodybuilders only need to be peak-jacked at limited and specific times, while wrestlers need to maintain their physique constantly, because they're on TV every week, plus house shows, etc etc... This means that it's a lot easier for steroid cycling to turn into full-blown constant use for wrestlers than it is for actors/bodybuilders. Then combine that with the rampant painkiller and alcohol excess that's commonplace in the business, you can see why maybe professional wrestlers as a population are a bit more at-risk for the mental/physical health risks of Sterroid use than an actor/bodybuilder who juices just long enough to get buff for his shirtless-scenes/competition, then either takes it down a notch or stops altogether until another movie/show comes up.

>>3065113
>Good acting

This has literally never been there in the golden era. All the top guys were terrible actors. Even after 15 years in Hollywood The Rock can only play one type of character.

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>>3065086
>mfw two manlets will have the most lucrative fight in sport's history tomorrow
>mfw you're seething just at the thought of it

>>3065208
I mean good acting relative to the norm of wrestling, not relative to Hollywood or theater. Mankind, Rock, Austin, and Angle aren't good actors by theater standards, but they're good by E standards.

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>>3065225
Based "manlets" working the size queens

>>3065086
But there are big guys in MMA too... they just don't look like bodybuilders. They're World's-Strongest-Man fit, because they have to actually perform, instead of just looking like what ancient greek sculptors fantasized about while having sex with little boys.

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>>3064885
Small guys are superior in everything.

>>3065273

This. Acting in wrestling is more able to work a crowd or mic. Hogan, Rock, and Austin were masters of it and got over despite not being the best in ring.

>>3065297
All the fighters try and get into as low as weight class as possible so they can style on manlets with their superior size

Thats why mma is full of DYEL lanklets, not because its the peak fighters physique or whatever gay reason you think

>>3065333
>>3065086
Why do you so vehemently defend the the bodybuilder physique. You're clearly not a bodybuilder yourself, so why do appear to have such a personal investment in your a dog in this fight? Even if you did have a bodybuilder physique yourself (which you don't... this if 4chan) nobody in this thread is saying it's objectively bad or anything: it's just optimized for looks, not performance.

Seriously, what is your motivation to care?
Are you so nostalgic for 90's 80's action movies wrestling that you need to argue for their "realism"?

Are you yourself attracted to the Mr Universe physique and are upset that WWE is becoming less sexually exciting for you?

Or, are you just a troll, who jumped onto how effective Diesel quotes are at working the /asp/ smarks?

Genuinely curious.

>>3065280
If Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, Foreman, Holmes Bruno were around today do you think anybody would give a fuck about those manlets? no.

Biggest draw in history is who? Donald Trump and he's 6'3

>>3065360
I never said anything about bodybuilding faggot, maybe keep the in depth conversations you have with yourself private instead of projecting them onto anonymous users on an Appalachian dwarf tossing forum

>>3065196
>A: career wrestling is likely to attract a population that's already predisposed to violent crime
>B: CTE increases the likelihood of violent crimes
>C: Sterroid use increases the likelihood of violent crimes
[citation needed]

The Circus isn't popular anymore so flippy manlets find jobs in pro wrestling

Jew Meltzer happened.

You know I never was onboard with /pol/'s Jew hating meme, but after watching Jew meltzer destroy WWE slowly from within by poisoning the fanbase, now I'm completely convinced it is true. Jews do destroy everything they touch from withing.

Reminder that Scott Steiner was, at best, legit 5'11"

>>3064913
"Political correctness" was a thing in the 90s during the peak of The Attitude Era you underage whitetrash yokel

>>3065366
Tyson was like 5'10"

>implying anybody even remembers Holmes or Bruno

>>3064885
Reddit wants to see the numales like faggot danial bryan pushed because it lets them self insert.

>>3065675
Oy vey the Goyim know

>>3064913
This comment was just taken from the video....

>>3065698
>danial

>>3064885
No roids. No chair shots to the head. No blading. Basically all the things that seriously gave wrestling its edge are gone.

>>3065113
>getting rid of some of the magnetic presence that (drinking and drug using wrestlers) provide.
Underrated point. Substance abuse turns people into charismatic party animals for better and for worse. I personally always wondered if Hogan wasnt at least a liiiitle coked out in his promos.

>>3065809
>Hogan
>at least a liiiitle coked out in his promos
Hogan, Savage, Warrior were ALWAYS coked out like shit during promos

>>3064885
Turns out that it's all fake

>>3064885

They found out roids and continuous hits to the head are not good for you.

Sorry you cant jack off to big wrestling dudes anymore man

>>3064885
Interesting thread sar. There have been some goodvand badv replies .

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Benoit killing his family horrifically and then the aftermath played a part. WWE is hypersensitive on steroid abuse and concussions now (as they should be, they could get sued).

>>3065957
Cringe

>>3064967

Unfortunately true. All of the most gullible marks are now UFC fans. Guess what idiots, it's still not real fighting.

>>3064885
Smarks with internet.

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ASK HIM

>>3065957

What the fuck

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>>3066442
I can't tell you just got off the boat fram /vvooo and rreddit.

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>>3066322
those fucking veins