ITT: WWE matches that didnt get 5* but actually are

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>>3024303

Sasha vs Bayley I

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someone meme this pls

>>3024345
hard to think that the most over guy from them became Tyler...

>>3024350
Not meme-worthy

>>3024303
whole heartedly agree, this feud was wrestling storytelling done perfectly. every promo, every match. didnt get recognition it deserved.

Undertaker vs HBK

both of them

HHH vs HBK Summerslam 2002

>>3024303
It was the same match they always had but faster and with a story that was actually engaging.

>>3024316
this was complete shit

i´ll tell you a secret.
NO

>>3024303
I was there live, this should have been the main event since the Triple Threat opened the show. Crowd was white hot for Ziggler, tv didn't do it justice.

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>>3024583
To me, for my taste at least, WWEs best match since January 2015, yet to be topped.

>>3024583
>>3024619
unironically these

>>3024583
>>3024619
agree with both

>>3024303
>>3024582
>everyone expects this to main event
>a fucking weekly Smackdown match of Orton vs. Bray with a Luke Harper does

ITT, edrones think their shallow spotfests are worth anything about a 4

>>3024382
>>3024544
>>3024583
These in particular are very funny.

>>3024391
best wwe match of the last 16 years imo

>>3024356
Not really. I mean, right now he's on fire, but the other guys did pretty well for themselves also. Kidd was the most over out of all of them in his run with Cesaro, then it was Sami in his feud with KO, then Neville when he first started his cruiserweight stuff, and now Breeze with the gay cops. I bet you a year from now it'll be someone else again.

>>3024619
I don't understand how this match got a 4.75 and Naito/Omega got a 5.75 when both matches were essentially the same.

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Mad Conspiracy Man pulled out the Burning Hammer.

B u r n i n g H a m m e r.

>>3024829
>WWE buried this match in favour of Alexander v Ibushi

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>>3024619
This was an awful spotfest.

>spot, maybe a pin attempt
>feigning shock while resting 2 mins
>spot, maybe a pin attempt
>feigning shock while resting 2 mins
>spot, maybe a pin attempt
>feigning shock while resting 2 mins
>spot, maybe a pin attempt
>feigning shock while resting 2 mins
>spot, maybe a pin attempt
>feigning shock while resting 2 mins
>spot, maybe a pin attempt
>feigning shock while resting 2 mins
etc

The Royal Rumble match was better, it was a little less obvious, had more cohesiveness/story.

Anyway here's a pick from me.
I can't believe how overlooked this match is, I've never seen anyone mention it on here, ever.

>>3024316
>Bryan getting all that endorsement after winning the title
>even from Piper
feels bad man

>>3024353
Very good but 4.5* because Sting didn't go over brother - HH

>>3024784
>triggered.

>>3024644
Word.

Possibly the single best example of not needing blood to tell a story

>>3024845
Man, I like Ibushi vs. Alexander too, but it's obvious that Kendrick vs. Ibushi was better. The storytelling, the spots. Hell, even an after-match moment with Brian & Daniel was better, than HHH & Cedric. Damn.

>>3024789

unironically same, I can't remember other cases when wrestling entertained me that much

>>3024860
seething

>>3024850
Bruh, this is my favorite match. So underrated.

>>3024583
Seth came off like a god in this match. It's such a fucking shame to think of what happened to him after this.

Actually great matches in this thread, butI don't remember the Four Way with Miz, maybe I missed it.

>>3024850
Good taste. Savage-Flair was a tremendous program.

>>3024303
>>3024583
>>3024644
>>3024374

agree with these.

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This was a story made all of a sudden, nobody expected shit and turned out to be great

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>>3024350

>>3024303
it's a crime that this match wasn't the main event

>>3024544

Based

>>3024303
This was one of the best storylines of last year. The matches were fine but the story carried everything. Arguable 5*s

>>3024544
>>3024781
These are recent ones that you can argue 5* for.

>>3024382
Agreed, their first Mania Mach is GOAT to me at least.

ITT: a lot of shit taste

>>3025396
Post your matches

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One of the few matches with any story behind it in the tournament and completley overshadowed by Ibushi v.
Alexander

>>3025721
best triple threat in WWE

>>3025265
Extreme Rules, last year. Awesome match, go check it out.

>>3024845
They made Tyler Reks do a shitty move and called it Burning Hammer. Now Kendrick did the real thing and they had to bury the evidence.

>>3024784
I'd take a "shallow spotfest" over a "technical masterpiece" any day

>>3025820
Good edrone, good.

>>3024583
Got Seth over in a huge way. Then he burned it all by opening every show with a 20 minute promo.

>>3025823
one of the worst reigns of all time, shows how easily placated smarks are they consider that shitfest to have been good

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>>3024863
A rebuttal

Blood was accidental, but they worked with it perfectly. Every stoppagegave Balor time to rest and made Joe look like a devastating monster.

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>>3024303
This would have been 5* if it had been the last match of the night (remember it was put in the middle of the card despite the "main event" being the first match of the night), but the moment Dolph came out during the second hour it was too obvious that he was winning.

>>3025790
Unironically, unequivocally, the G.O.A.T.

>>3025827
You're kidding, right? Not even a top 10 WWF match that year.

>>3025832
boring match
typical balor match plus accidental blood
joe worked with it well but match itself was dull and standard, 3 stars

>>3025832
Joe wanting to get the doctors the fuck out of his face so he can get back to the match got him over so well.

>>3025844
I love most of Angle and Benoit's matxhes. The Smackdown one after their RR 03 match is great too (though not quite on this level)

>>3024353
bunch of old ass guys come out and look like shit. is this whats considered 5 stars around here? The only good part was Nash making fun of himself and pretending to tear his quad.

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Would've been the easiest 5 stars of Dave's life if they had a real finish. The beginning 15 minutes is the best match in WWE history.

>>3025827
Shouldve been Kane instead of Fatty

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>>3024303
Miz should've won here desu. Dolph fell into irrelevancy a month later.

>>3024850
You know wrestling. Anyone who enjoys those endless move-cover-two count spots is a fucking retard. Almost as eye rolling as anything Undercarder does

>>3025933
cringe

>>3024850

I don't know how you dislike their Summerslam match when their Royal Rumble match is insanely worse and nothing but FINISHER, KICK OUT spam.

>>3025941
Maybe I'm not remembering the RR match properly. I'll have to watch it again. But I saw the Summerslam match just last week because WWE put in on Youtube, and those are my honest feelings about it.

>>3024850
It wasn't an "awful" spotfest. You're right that matches are better when the spots have context, or flow to them, but if it's two talented guys hitting their spots, there's a good rivalry, chemistry between them, and some story, I don't mind it being move-kickout-move-kickout. It's just another style of match.

>>3025737

Unironically this

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>>3026220
Fucking this. He should revise it to a 5 for historical impact.
It was a 5 at the time anyway, but it's definitely a 5 for all it's influenced since.

>>3025896
Great match.

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>>3024303
Underrated as hell IMO

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>>3025933
>You know wrestling

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>>3024303

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>>3024303
Perhaps the only match where I would have been okay with The Streak ending. After this, Taker simply never should have lost at Mania. Three F5s/five Spears do not compare to what he endured here.

>>3026234

Maybe if it wasn't described as WCW/ECW vs WWF.

>>3026265
Fuck off Paul.

>>3024544
Pretty much only this.

>>3024850
Basically Naito vs Omega then.

>>3026234
>WCW/ECW
>half are WWE guys

>>3025721
watched it the other day, its bryan vs orton and batista but with blood

>>3026527
>in MSG
>with JR on commentary
So nowhere near as good?

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>>3026498
>no Bischoff
>no Flair
>no Goldberg
>no Hogan, Hall, Nash
>no Sting
>no Steiner
>no Savage, Luger, Piper

>in the final battle there's 1 WCW guy, 8 WWF guys and 1 ECW guy for some reason

'Invasion'

>>3026542
>Stunning Steve
>Lionheart
>Booker T
>Robbie V
>The Giant
>Mean Mark
>Bruiser Mastino
Get a CLUE

Dunne/Tyler 2

>>3026556
Look up the definition of "invasion" if anything should have been called a rebellion or coup.

>>3024303
Great story for the match, but Miz is still to far behind in his wrestling ability and didn't do much WRESTLING for the sake of storytelling.
>>3024316
Spotfest.
>>3024345
Too many guys at once/had some of the more generic spots of this kind of match.
>>3024353
Lmao
>>3024382
25 is better than 26, and would've been a 5 if that one stupid fucking spot botch thing to the outside didn't waste so much time. Also Taker's punches are awful, and he did them the most during this "da strongest pure striker in WWE!" phase.
>>3024391
Lmao
>>3024397
>any HHH match worthy of a 5
>>3024544
For sure. If it had a more interesting story background for it, then yeah.
>>3024583
>>3024619
I hate how formulaic Cena matches in general are with the headlock to start the match thing, also he stops selling later on in his matches completely when even fighting spirit moments have wrestlers selling.
>>3024644
This match was mediocre as fuck. Edge has never been good in-ring outside of spotfests.
>>3024781
See what I said about NXT fatal four way.
>>3024829
Pretty close. Only reason I wouldn't give it five stars is because I have seen even better matches from Ibushi before that are worth the five.
>>3024850
Savage is a pretty shitty wrestler that gets overrated because he looked good among the least athletic pro wrestlers of all time.
>>3025291
>more Cena garbage
Not even his punk match should be a 5*
>>3025649
Yeah, but their selling was okay. Mainly just the story aspect pushing this one.
>>3025721
Shawn and Benoit make this match. HHH is crap except for spots and selling.
>>3025737
Weird anti-climactic feeling ending.
>>3025741
Vanilla midget spot monkeying.
>>3025790
>muh technical wrestling
Lmao no personality crap
>>3025827
You haven't watched this match and are only saying it because of the big names attached to it.
>>3025896
This is easily the most overrated classic match ever besides Hogan v Andre. Awful pacing.
>>3026220
Another spotfest.
>>3026234
>m-muh big names

>>3026582
Slow burn.

>>3026587
THIS IS AUTISM *CLAPS*

>>3026587
Have sex, we are all beggin ya

>>3026265
Outside the ECW-esque moments, pretty standard match.
>>3026538
Hampered by Cena's formulaic approach/lack of workrate like MITB 2011.


You guys' picks are awful.

>>3026594
Your obesity is showing.

>>3024303
watching this live was fuckin sick

>>3026587
Go outside

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>>3024856
Steph is an anti-draw. Are you going to fix that?

>>3026698
>4.5 Stars
This is one of the main reasons Meltz ratings dont count.

>>3026234
>Jericho and Big Show on Team WWF

This is literally inexcusable

John Cena vs The Rock
>two athletes using one finisher after the other
>le meltz gives it 3.5 1/2 *
Deserves 5 stars.

Cactus jack vs hhh
Austin rock at 17
Austin HHH are all 5 star

>>3026962
I would give Hogan/Rock five stars from WM 18

But Cena/Rock seemed to lack something, 4.5 stars at most