*sells out the arena*
>With less than two weeks to go, none of the four WWE events at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn for SummerSlam are sold out. The previous two years, WWE sold out three straight nights with NXT, SummerSlam and Raw. This year they’ve added Smackdown. SummerSlam is more because of the raised ticket prices. The cheapest priced unsold tickets are $355, although the secondary market price for entry is $139. NXT’s lowest unsold tickets are at $25, and secondary market tickets start at $40. For Raw, the lowest priced unsold tickets start at $45, while the secondary market tickets start at $36. For Smackdown, the lowest priced unsold tickets are $25, while the secondary market starts at $38.
*DOESN'T sell out the arena*
Man, isn't that a sight the WWE sould love to see right about now?
>>2987802
I'm wish they could sell out in the U.S like they do in Japan, competition is great for consumers.
Meanwhile in an average NJPW show...
>>2987810
>Japan
>Selling out
Kek
>>2987813
That's a house show
*meanwhile at WWE not being able to sell out in Toronto*
>>2987816
Again posting pictures before the show started or during the 30 minutes break.
Retarded E-drones can't even troll well, lmao
>>2987818
Meanwhile at WWE house shows...
Average NJPW show
>>2987822
Meanwhile at WWE house shows
Meanwhile at G1
Kenny Omega returns from his brief hiatus after his 6 Star match to a "packed" bingo hall
https://youtu.be/FFO22tc6LvY
>>2987816
>>2987813
I love how this fucking faggot has to post shows from GOD KNOWS WHEN. You lose simply because of the fact that these are crowds that NJPW and WWE is drawing NOW, this isn't 2013 in a bumfuck in Japan or an hour before a show starts in 2015, this is TODAY'S NJPW vs TODAY'S WWE and when you compare the two, it's no, NO fucking comparison, it's night and day. Face it, E-drone. NJPW has the ball right now, WWE doesn't. Just take the L and stop embarrassing yourself.
When will you NJPW fags realise G1 is the exception, not the rule?
Your roster are not draws. If your biggest achievement is filling a school hall with a lesser capacity than what WWE house shows can accommodate, then you're not aiming very high, are you?
> 36000
> (packed)
>>2987836
All images are 2016, cuck.
Oh no WWE is failing to pack a 20k capacity stadium, but at least muh Newjpan are packing 4000 capacity bingo halls!
>gives away free tickets
>cannot draw
WWE!
>>2987842
4.000 is a bingo hall according to this retard, yet 4.000 is the average attendance Smackdown gets.
Lol
>>2987842
I remember you
Saying this image was from Day 27 of the 2016 G1 when G1 only goes 19 days max.
As Ricochet is standing in the ring and this is clearly a BOSJ spot show in a smaller town., not even from the G1.
You legit have no idea what you are talking about.
>>2987849
>NJPW PPVs can't even beat WWEs B-show
LOL
>>2987842
No, they're not just "failing to pack 20,000 capacity stadiums" like you say they are, they're BARELY even reaching HALF of that based on these recent attendance figures, you BARELY even crack the 10,000+ seat mark, doing that only ONCE in a show headlined by John Cena, Randy Orton, AJ Styles, Kevin Owens, Jinder Mahal, the New Day in the "A City", Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, they missed a sellout by over 7,000 seats, AFTER slashing ticket prices by as much as 55%. They slashed prices by fucking 55%, E-drone. That is fucking INEXCUSABLE, seats in EVERY area of the Barclay's Center is available if you look at the first response to the thread. Just stop, be quiet and just admit you and your little mcdonald's play pen of a wrestling promotion are in a very bad position while NJPW is experiencing a resurgence of sorts. Honesty is far more appreciated in a debate than deflection, mental gymnastics, moving goalposts and all the shit you're doing.
>>2987856
>B-but!
I thought NJPW was a draw anon?
>>2987857
It's truly sad that you are going out of your way to find images of shows during intermission or of people filing out as the shows are ending.
Think how much of your life you are wasting in pursuit of pushing this stupid agenda.
You don't even get paid to do this.
So so sad.
>>2987858
Wait a second
Is 10,000 a bigger number than 4000?
Hmmmm
>>2987859
Literally every seat in that cropped and cut image is full.
Or are you actually blind for a shoot?
Also you are deliberately choosing misleading and misrepresenting images and claiming they are from shows that they aren't even from.
You are completely embarrassing and exposing yourself as knowing nothing about New Japan, thus you are unqualified to comment on it.
>>2987862
It's truly sad that you're trying to bring this shit up considering you're posting in a thread shitposting about "muh rasslin" let alone how Easy it is to prove you morons wrong. A simple google search for "NJPW crowd" finds all this shit. Your narrative falls apart when you can't cherrypick.
Fucking get a grip
Retarded Drones sending photos of Korakuen Hall during the break or before the show started.
He's a legit one
>>2987866
>Filling a 2000 capacity bingo hall is okay!
Sad. You fags should aim higher.
>6 posters
>27 replies
Actually cringing at the samefagging going on ITT
>>2987847
>
>>2987857
>>2987859
>>2987859
The fact that the WWE has to slash ticket prices by not only 55%, but at times, even 100% just to fill up a tiny percentage of the arena, while NJPW NEVER has to GIVE AWAY tickets automatically defeats your arguments. The company's in very rough shape, take the head out of your ass and just admit to it. While you scour your folder for images showing a NJPW BEFORE the show begins, allow me to show you a photo of your recent WWE crowds DURING the shows.
>>2987870
>NJPW is bad because they don't run in big buildings
What kind of mark retard logic is this?
>Being a size queen for arenas and venues
Seriously, explain this to me.
If you can.
(You can't)
Here's the "self-proclaimed" big leagues, in all their empty seat glory. Wow, can you imagine how excited the Hardy Boyz were to return only, in front of an admittedly massive crowd only to now perform in front of half empty arenas again? How do they feel when they finally realize that upon signing with the WWE, they never actually left the Indies?
>>2987865
Wait a second, is 12,000 (Dominion) a bigger number than 800 (Waco, Texas)?
>>2987802
Wow that looks like 1000 people.
Congratulations New Japan!
>>2987895
Holy fucking shit, you're INCREDIBLY angry. Hahaha, the WWE would thank their lucky stars if they actually sold 12,000 tickets in their current state, actually, while we're at it, Summerslam is less than two weeks away, at this point, Dominion was already sold out while Summerslam and for that matter, NXT, RAW AND Smackdown are nowhere close to a sellout. Mind telling us why?
>>2987897
This is the venue of today's show. The Smackdown show in Waco, Texas was headlined by John Cena, AJ Styles, Randy Orton and all of the superstars of Smackdown, drew 800 fans. By your logic, assuming NJPW actually drew 1,000 fans (It's a number MUCH higher than that, they sold out the Sumo Hall which has 11,100 seat capacity), Are you saying that 1/11th of today's show outdrew JOHN FUCKING CENA AND AJ STYLES AND THE FUCKING WWE? Even moreso, this outdrew the Waco, Texas show by 13.85 times. By this logic, would you say that NJPW outdrew John Cena by almost FOURTEEN TIMES? That's almost as much title reigns as he has!
>>2987897
1000! Yes, indeed!
In the same arena WWE never and will never be sold out!
I'm glad NJPW is having a good year, but the need of their fans for validation is pathetic.
>>2987902
No, I'm making good points and thorough arguments instead of just saying 'lol bingo halls" or 'worked". Sorry you're unfamiliar with effort being put into posts. Here's another empty WWE show for your troubles!
>>2987910
Kek why would WWE care about some random pachinko hall lad?
WWE are the big leagues
>>2987919
That's the arena WWE uses when they come to Japan idiot
>>2987924
>>2987919
Which you forgot to mention, they can't sell out. The difference between NJPW and WWE is that when NJPW comes to America, they sell out in under two hours. When WWE goes to Japan, tickets are on sale for days, weeks, months and they are still several thousands shy of a sellout. So much for the big leagues.
>>2987932
1) NJPW G1 Climax 25 Finals (August 16, 2015) - 10,180
2) NJPW Invasion Attack 2016 (April 10, 2016) - 9,078
3) WWE @ Tokyo (July 2, 2016) - 8,764
4) WWE The Beast In The East (July 4, 2015) - 8,646
5) WWE @ Tokyo (July 1, 2016) - 8,506
6) NJPW King of Pro-Wrestling 2015 (October 12, 2015) - 8,302
7) WWE @ Tokyo (July 3, 2015) - 7,704
8) DDT Judgement 19th Anniversary Show (March 21, 2016) - 6,938
9) DDT Ryogoku Peter Pan 2015 (August 23, 2015) - 6,670
10) WWE @ Tokyo (July 10, 2014) - 6,178
11) BJW Ryogokutan 20th Anniversary Show (July 20, 2015) - 3,985
So barely under G1 finals which is what, the second most important set of shows behind (packed)mania?
How much did Whominion sell compare to Wrestlemania again?
Just asking legit questions cos im curious, no need to get all touched and spazz out like usual
>>2987902
>3 sentences is an essay
American public education everyone
>constantly talking about getting touched
Something you need to tell us about your Uncle coming into your room at night Anon?
L O L
>>2987862
>>2987836
>Bitching about a lack of context
>Has to compare WWE b-show to their PPVs in order to come up with a win
Let's see if Wrestlekingdom compares to this ;)
>>2987937
Holy fuck BTFO
>>2987937
>WWE claimed an attendance of 75,245 for WrestleMania 33. This number has been disputed, as The A.V. Club wrote that it was "almost certainly a fake number" as WWE "has had a reputation for wildly inflating the attendance figure—as Vince McMahon once said on an investor's call, the fake number is for entertainment purposes",[3] while wrestling journalist Dave Meltzer described it as "a total worked number even more than usual".
Dominion this year sold 12,000 seats while Wrestlemania this year 63,000. It's worth noting that Dominion would've sold way more tickets had they not booked the venue, taking into consideration that the show sold out 13 days in advance. While we're comparing the 2nd biggest event of the year vs the 1st, I'll ask you this question. Judging by the fact that NO area of the Barclay's Center is sold out, (Let's say they've currently sold 10,000 tickets which is very generous), how much more tickets did Wrestlekingdom 11 sell than Summerslam 2017 at this point? How much tickets will Summerslam sell in New York City this year and don't give me "Sellout" bullshit. Tell me how much you feel they'll sell in the most populous city in the United States but answer honestly and compare that to WK11.
>>2987949
The fact that you are trying to build self esteem by living vicariously through a wrestling company and trying to brag about how much more they draw on one day a year versus any other company in the industry is so beyond sad. This is legit the most fulfilling part of your life isn't it? Doing team sports arguments online about muh WWE and how because it draws more that means its' better and suddenly you are not a perpetual loser at life.
So so sad. Living vicariously through corporations to boost your self esteem.
>9 posters
>59 replies
This is so fucking pathetic.
>>2987949
>>5817146
LOL, your argument is that you "sell out" ONCE a year? Wow, you sell 63,000 (You had to inflate attendance by 12,000 seats) ONCE a year and use this as a checkmate. Impressive! What about all your other shows, what about Raw and Smackdown tapings that take place in empty arenas, what about Battleground, Backlash and all the other PPVs, what about NXT Takeover, what about Summerslam (Which will NOT sell out without giving away free tickets and papering), which you make no mention of? Your entire counter-argument is "Wrestlemania". If your argument is that you sell out shows ONCE A FUCKING YEAR, and technically, you didn't, you missed that goal by 12,000 seats, then that's a piss-poor and terrible argument with no substance and doesn't do you any favors.
;)
>>2987965
And you're one of them
kek, very pathetic indeed
>>2987953
>Show was held on a weekday
>in Japan where people are super anal about work culture
>>2987962
I stopped at the first sentence
You are projecting so hard right now im not even sure you are ebin trolein, maybe you really are this autistic
All I'm getting from this thread is WWE plainly need to downsize their venues/lower ticket prices and NJPW drones are pretty obnoxious in their echo chamber
>>2987964
>Answer the question perfectly
>Another essay didn't read lol
>Asks me to answer his question
Imagine, imagine if you will, being THIS much of a fucking faggot. Go sell out shows ONCE a year some more, your wrestlers are starving and your company is in rough shape. Soon enough, you'll be booking smaller arenas. Like your height, I kept the answer short for you.
>>2987962
Holy fuck anon look in the mirror
>>2987976
We're obnoxious but WWE needs to downsize while NJPW needs to upsize? Hell, I'll take that as a win.
HEY GUYS, OP HERE
I SEE THIS POST IS DRAWING WELL
KEEP ARGUING BUYS
BYE
, OP
>>2987967
Wait a minute, since Wrestlemania wasn't a sellout and Summerslam didn't sell out, can someone LEGITIMATELY tell me the last time the WWE sold out an event this year? Has the WWE even sold out an event since last year?
>>2987986
GUYS*
>>2987985
>J-drone mad
LOL, I'm literally fielding ALL the questions thrown my way with thorough, well-thought answers. Your ONLY counter-argument is "SEETHING LOL U MAD". Counter my counter-arguments, retort to my posts, I dare you. You can't. All you'll say is "cringe" and "SEETHING".
>>2988008
>Royal rumble this year's attendance was 52000
>he falls for WWE's worked attendance numbers
I bet you believe that Wrestlemania in Dallas got over 100k too. Jesus Christ.
>>2988008
My argument is that NJPW sells out a percentage unbelievably higher than WWE. I never once argued about crowd size, you'd be foolish to think NJPW draws more people to their shows outright than the WWE. Is that really an argument you'd like to pride yourself on? That WWE draws decently once, maybe twice a year? NJPW is on a stretch right now where they're booming, they're selling out bigger and bigger arenas and they've sold out 16 of the last 17 shows. Wrestlemania missed a sellout by 12,000 seats, the Royal Rumble missed a sellout by 20,000. You haven't sold out ONE fucking show this year while NJPW literally sold out the last 16 of their 17 shows. You have a retarded argument and if your argument is that you book 1 or 2 shows a year and use those two large crowds (Which again, failed to sell out by a combined 32,000 seats) to propel you through 300+ shows a fucking year is weak argument that lacks substance and your company is in DESPERATE need of downsizing, as your financials are PLUMMETING as a result of this while NJPW business is fucking BOOMING. Eat a dick, get demolished.
>>2988039
Oh man, he called him a J-Drone and posted a funny, meme gif. If you've ever needed proof that E-drones were mentally challenged, this is it.
And while we're on the Royal Rumble:
>WWE will hold its 2017 Royal Rumble will take place at the Alamodome in San Antonio on Sunday, Jan. 29.
>This will mark the 20th anniversary of the Alamodome hosting the biggest Royal Rumble in history, which drew over 60,000 fans. That show was headlined by the hometown Shawn Michaels defending the WWF Championship against Psycho Sid with “Stone Cold” Steve Austin winning the 30-man, over the top rope Royal Rumble match.
>WrestleMania 33 will take place in Orlando, Fla. on April 2, 2017.
>The Royal Rumble will include stars from both Raw and SmackDown with 15 wrestlers from each brand expected to be in the Rumble match.
>The return to the Alamodome should make next year’s Royal Rumble the most attended in company history.
"Should be the most attended in company history".
How did that end up working for you, E-drone? Remember all those videos about how WWE was going to sell out and break their attendance record and how they tried to rally all their fans? And they FAILED to break the goals they set out for themselves? Doesn't that come to define E-drones and the WWE? Failure.
>>2988052
"also I'm ignorant"
No, you're just retarded.
>>2987907
There was no Smackdown show in Waco, retard. There was a Raw house show that had a gate of 3500. """"""Packed""""" according to your retardation. NuJapan fans making shit up now.
>>2988094
Sorry, I meant Loredo. Point still stands.
HAHAA NEW JAPAN HAS JUST PUT ANOTHER 5 STAR MATCH FEW SECONDS AGO
STAY WITH YOUR FAKE ATTENDANCE AND MEN IN BEAR SUITS E DRONES LMAO
>>2988128
WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH MELTZER YOU FUCK? I AM GIVING 5 STAR TO THE MATCH FROM MY OWN OBSERVATION, STOP LETTING HIM LIVE IN YOUR HEAD RETARD, TELL HIM TO LEAVE NOW
>>2988128
>>2988117
>NJPW fan clearly enjoying a match between two competitors
>M-m-m-meltzer cock m-meltzer d-dic-dick.
You know, for someone so anti-NJPW, I'm surprised you think about giving Dave Meltzer fellatio as much as you do. What, is it because he said 5 stars? What does NJPW have to do with Dave Meltzer? Meltzer didn't create star ratings, stop being retarded and stop thinking about sucking Meltzer's dick so much.
>>2988135
> le 5 stars of David match in front of a crowd of 3000 soulless insectoids
I feel so bad for you right now that I almost wanna open a charity and have people donate to help you cure your illness
>>2988137
>>2988135
>>2988131
>>2988128
>>2988117
Quite LITERALLY living RENT-FREE, pro-Bono in they heads.
>>2987805
>shows a secondary ticket market seating chart and tickets
wew lad stick to spending yen on your foreign indies
>>2988140
You feel bad for me
I dont think about you at all
Exactly like WWE and who japan's relationship
Phil lives in many heads
Asuka does too, both of them do it rent-free.
But Jeez none of them do it like Meltz, the man is literally living in any WWE fan's head
Just shut the fuck up already. You faggots are working me into a seething shoot. I will keep watching WWE in spite of "lol empty seats" and I will keep watching NJPW in spite of "lol outlaw bingo halls". Just enjoy what show you like or fuck off, unless you are an investor in either company none of this shit matters.
>>2988162
BASED.
>>2988144
KEK
>>2988172
How do both Reddit and Meltzer have enough space to live in your little head, E-drone?
>>2988172
>E-DRONE SEETHING INTO A DROOLING, BUMBLING MESS
Also, I find it funny how you accuse me of coming from Reddit but visit Reddit enough to realize that apparently, 60% of posts on Reddit are of Dave Meltzer.
You didn't really think this one through, did you? Or all E-Drones this fucking retarded or are you just exceptionally stupid?
E-DRONE SO UPSET AT GOATKADA VS OMEGOAT GETTING 5 AND 6 AND 9 STARS
AHAHAHAHAHA
A WWMEME MATCH WILL NEVER EARN 6 STARS FROM BASED MELTZER AND THAT MAKES YOU SEETHE!!!
KEEP SEETHING E-DRONE!
AND KEEP LURKING REDDIT SO YOU KNOW WHAT POSTS THEY MAKE!
>>2988182
HOLY FUCKING BASED E-DRONES BTFO HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER
>>2987802
Holy fucking BASED. Can't wait to watch these matches tonight after work.
>wwe babbies still crying about taker/hbk match rating
>>2988192
>Visiting Reddit doesn't make me a Redditor
At this point, I am fully convinced that those who call other people Redditors are actually Redditors themselves. Absolutely fucking sad.
>>2988197
See the (You)?
Sorry, not samefagging, I'm not an E-drone.
>>2988142
HOLY SHIT BTFO
>>2988206
Have you read the fucking thread? This is the opinion of someone who hasn't read the fucking thread.
>WAAAA I DON'T C-CARE ABOUT YOUR SHITTY S-STARS
>T-TAKER VS H-H-H-H-H-BK WAS 5 S-STAR WAAAAAAA
>F-FUCK YOU M-M-MELTZER YOU ARE R-RACIST TO MUH AMERIFAT WRASSLIN WAAAAAA
>>2988206
>edrones not giving a fuck about stars
>literally threads everyday arguing about it on /asp/
>hundreds of drones everyday sending butthurt tweets to metlzer about the stars he gives wwe compared to njpw
Sure... you "don't give a fuck"
>>2987813
>>2987816
>>2987824
>>2987828
Holy fuck WWE-babby in a seething blubbering rage over NJPW's ability to get a packed house for a great show. Dry your tears before posting anymore kiddo.
Jesus lmao WWE turds on Quora literally believing Cena vs Styles, an average movezy spotfest was 5 star.
And just think that one of those might be on this thread right now, lol.
So sad
In 2008 WWE sold 8000/20000 seats for a ppv headlined by Batista. In 2004, television tapinhs headlined by Angle/Undertaker/Brock etc. Were consistentæy only 50-60% capacity. Can we stop pretending this is a new phenomenon?
>>2988227
LOL. They're fucking drones, they're retarded and have no idea what they're talking about. In fact, I think Dave Meltzer is UNDER-RATING certain matches. There has yet to be a 5 star match currently in this G1 tournament although that very well may change after today's match and Okada/Omega 3 tomorrow. He should've given Elgin/Omega, EVIL/Okada, Naito/Ibushi and Suzuki/Okada 5 stars in my opinion.
>>2988227
Based MMA and boxing chad shitting on the old stuttering fake news spreading idiot
>>2988235
OP here, I won't even mention anything about attendance, but It's these E-drones that started it by calling NJPW bingo halls and shit while they can't even sell out RAM
>>2988227
>Sam Desai
>Pranay Kumbhar
Pajeets are WWE marks. In other news, water is wet. Anyway, POO
>>2988238
My own personal ratings for these are:
*****
****1/2
****3/4
****1/2
I think if Meltz gave these 5 Stars, E-drones would probably threaten to kill him over that Taker/HBK match that still lives in their head and doesn't let them sleep at night
>>2988243
I fucking hate all of you. You've managed to make a board that was 80% shitposts even worse with your console war faggotry
>>2988270
LOL E-DRONE SEETHING
>Can't fucking win any arguments
>I fucking hate all of you
hahahahah oh my fucking god. Here's a gif of GOAT Gedo amused by how much of a pussy you are.
>>2988274
Scroll up
Your lads got btfo hard itt
This thread is literally 2 autists arguing with eachother over yen and dollars
>>2988503
welcome to /asp/
>>2988270
lmao the state of edrones
>>2988511
>Poster count didn't go up
>Bumping a thread that already lived and died
>>2987816
>image from during the intermission
>>2987839
Sakura Genesis & Dominion outdrew WWE PPVs
>>2987857
>when the show clearly isn't even happening
>>2988631
Post figures and stats
>>2987859
>Nakamura
So that photo is nearly 2 years old, at least?
>>2987946
You meant "distracting"
>>2988631
Sakura Genesis 2017: 10,231 (paid)
Dominion 6.11: 11,756 (paid)
Backlash 2017: <10,000
Extreme Rules 2017: 11,179
>>2988675
>>2988638
Get fucking obliterated.
>>2988675
> cherrypicking the bottom 2 ppvs out of like 16
> even then its a mosquitos dick between
LMAO
MELTZDRONES IN TATTERS
daily reminder RR's attendance was double insectoidmanias
>>2988709
You know, you could've just used your own dick in that metaphor and it wouldn't have made a difference.
They didn't sell out sumo hall today. Still no super increase.
Don't worry kitamura will save them.
>ITT: Discord NEETs Stand Up For WWE™
>>2988731
They sold out Sumo Hall today and Saturday, you lying cunt.
>All of these e-drones and outlel fags cherry picking this
You guys are the biggest bunch of faggots I've ever seen. Do any of you ever action ENJOY the shows you autists screech about, would you rather shove muh dimes up your asses?
>>2988151
>Jericho has stated the locker room has group viewings of New Japan
>>2988192
>>2988234
>Bretkuk admits he lurks plebbit
>>2988199
Dave is so fucking ruthless
>>2988764
Be careful, they sold out their smaller setup for Friday and Saturday, they are not insane. (that's around 7500 people)
Big setup for Sunday is around 10k. They sold out as well, besides the 200 dollars seats (some are still remaining).
>>2988199
>"Dave doesn't appreciate my childhood!"
I hope he someday re-reviews that match and takes off 1/2 star, overrated as fuck.
>>2988274
Gedo admitted to loving wwe. Kidani loves wwe.
>>2987885
> this fucking picture
I went to a The Crash show headlined by the Hardys in January and every seat was packed to the point that people were standing in the nosebleeds to watch. They were legit draws post-TNA which is pretty amazing at their age. Fucking sad to see them signed to WWE just to be soulless midcard acts now.
>>2989712
go back to plebbit bretkuk
>>2988733
Explain to me what you think cherrypicking means
And no, your fathers occupation doesnt count
>>2991847
Cherrypicking means purposefully picking something to prove your point while ignoring other things. It is also the occupation of your father and the reason you were dragged up in poverty and thus so bitter and touched
> resorting to pointing out missing apostrophes
Touched
You should stop bringing attention to your missing chromosomes
> dullard
Wow pls stop anon my fee fees cannot take your nuclear barbs of rekage
>>2993020
Too bad that's not what I did, assclown. I stated a fact.
>occupation of your father
Nope, he is white-collar
>dragged up in poverty
Nope, middle-class
>Bretkuk calling anybody bitter
>>2993043
His collar is the only thing white about him