What's his appeal?

Evil is a clown who'll never rise above the midcard.

>>2981471
>first person to beat Okada clean in a year

Reddit loves him because he's athletic as hell while ignoring the fact that he has no personality.

Evil, really? He's one of the most cringiest trash in New Japan expect for Hiromu but I respect his strong style like Goto or Ishii, good for Openweight belt.
Imo Sanada is a future Main Event star

He has the look.
EVIL has it all, just needs to drop that gimmick and wrestle under his real name.

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I like that he's someone that's looks like he's barely there. The lack of charisma is his whole thing since its enigmatic.

As for EVIL, I dig him but he won't get anywhere in his current state. He probably will evolve 2-3 years from now when SANADA has broken away.

Also, EVIL's submission is fucking shit

>>2981524
>wrestle under his real name

That would mean him going on a second excursion. It could work if he held down the US side of things with expansion. Takaaki Watanabe is a crap name though. Evil Watanabe?

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THE PARADISE LOCK

>>2981555
Why can't he just cast off the persona? Didn't somebody do something like this...recently?

>>2981499
>most cringiest trash in New Japan expect for

learn 2 English

because aesthetic.

is a faggot who appeals to the wreddit faggots. The same faggots who oogle over Balor
s abs

>>2981499
>>2981524
EVIL's gimmick is fine, though. It's wacky and distinct but it's meant to be completely absurd and out-there.
In the group of rebels that are LiJ, Naito/Sanada are the detached, aloof cool kids, Hiromu's the quirky nutjob, and EVIL's the goth that carries a pocket knife.
Plus, it's clearly getting him over.

>>2981545
>Also, EVIL's submission is fucking shit

If we want to talk about shit submissions, what about Sanada's? He wraps his armpit around their fucking forehead half the time, looks awful.

>>2981545
If we're being honest SANADAs submission sucks too, he barely locks it in their face and just holds his arm over their forehead and eyes.

What's with all the EVIL shitposters lately?

>>2981582
EVIL shitposters in what sense? Excessively liking him or ragging on him?
idk about the latter but EVIL has had a pretty great G1 and matured as a performer nicely over the past year so I don't blame the former at all.

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>Its another former-WWE mark thread


These discussions are almost cute, but when you realize that they're coming from people who started watching NJPW this year, one can't help but cringe

Now let's wait for the salty former-WWE marks and their seething replies

>>2981589
EVERYTHING!!!

>>2981594
OP here, you're wrong, stop being mad for no reason, lad. I've seen people saying he's the next big hype since he joined LiJ, and have never really gotten it.

>>2981575
>>2981576

The Dragon sleeper is a fucking GOAT submission. I think he does it in a cross face manner just so he puts his own spin on it a la Daniel Bryan grapevining the shoulder for a crossface

>>2981582
EVIL's been my boy since his ROH excursion

I was hyped to see him join up with my other boy Naito

>>2981594
So much this, I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed.
I stopped engaging with their threads because of how shallow they are, you can see how new they are by reading their threads

>>2981594
>>2981607
I don't dislike Sanada but I do agree with OP he's very overrated, and I haven't watched WWE since like, 2011ish, or whenever the Punk/Cena feud died down.
Kept up with NJPW since early-2000's, even through the JUST period before the saviour Tanahashi rose from the ashes.
Stop letting Vince live in your heads for no rent, please.

>>2981498
>Reddit loves him
Exposing yourself as a reddit user is embarrassing

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A guy I don't get is BUSHI. Granted he and Naito have great tag team chemistry (to the point where I think they should team in WTL), hes so boring in singles

>>2981594
>it's a carter post in a nice civil new japan threads

shoo shoo

>>2981563
>Why can't he just cast off the persona?

It would be too jarring and sort of insulting to fans that dig his current state. Him changing/morphing into a serious character would be more intriguing anyway

>>2981613
What does that have to do with Vince? I only said former-WWE marks, which is a fact. I didn't diss the WWE nor Vince.
Stop working yourself into a shoot.

>>2981625
>muh carter boogeyman
Stop shitposting

>>2981631
Please kick Vince out of your head.

>>2981631
>I only said former-WWE marks, which is a fact.

>it is a fact when one person said he has been watching new japan longer than he has WWE and I have too

I was just asking about Sanada 'cause I've never really seen what's so special about him. No need to get triggered my dude.

>>2981603
>used LIJ instead of LOS
confirmed having only been watching NJPW for a few months

>>2981647
Well duh I use LiJ. I use LOS when I'm referring to the taco branch.

>>2981594
>>2981607
>bragging about watching pro wrestling for longer than someone else
cringe

>>2981594
>try to shitpost on former-WWE mark boogeyman
>get routinely BTFO by new jachads

Shitposters are not welcome in based NJPW threads

>>2981658
based anon burying the shitposters. back to the console war autismo threads.

>>2981594
BTFO

>>2981658
GOAT

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>>2981617

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>>2981668
>>2981658
>>2981651
>>2981625
>>2981613
>They actually seethed

Kek, you guys sure get touched when someone calls you on your newness, no?

>>2981601

This. Hearing the Japanese commentary mark out for Evil is the best. That and Japanese Batman Homma.

>>2981617
He does the mist spot, what more do you need nigger? Plus he is actually a good looking guy under the mask which is why shit like >>2981682 happens

Is there something wrong with being new though? Everyone had to start somewhere. Yes, some of us are coming from wwe but you would think you guys would be happy to have us see your loved promotion for ourselves.

In your opinion, what would you have us do then if our posting doesn't sit right with you all?

>>2981697
imagine getting this worked

>40 replies
>14 unique Ip's as of now
Lmfao cuckter is too lazy to keep changing his ip xD

>>2981744
ignore shitposters and WWE fanboy false-flaggers

>>2981575
Evil just needs to drop that fucking scythe. The robes and the gimmick in general are fine but that toy scythe is just goofy as hell and I simply cannot take him seriously as a main event guy if he walks out with that thing.

>>2981457
litieratirlly who?

>>2981821
>I simply cannot take him seriously as a main event guy

Its a good thing thats not what they're going for right now then

>>2981792
This

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>>2981744
There's nothing wrong, hell, its great that new people are starting to watch NJPW.

I apologize for my comment, my autistic elitism for being an old NJPW fan got the best of me, because after all, all people have different opinions, and I'm sorry for my self-entitled remarks.

>>2981594
t. started watching in 2014

I know you Nu Japandroids wouldn't know this, but he's had pushes in other companies and failed miserably because he has no charisma or personality. New Japan have given him a 'don't give a shit' gimmick so he doesn't have to have a personality.

He will never be a top star or champion.

>>2981613
>Kept up with NJPW since early-2000's, even through the JUST period before the saviour Tanahashi rose from the ashes.
This isn't true, you just parroted some reddit opinion. Why would you lie on an anonymous image board?

>protoge of one of puro's most charismatic wrestler
>has no charisma

what did he mean by this?

>>2982491
>seething

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>>2981744
Get a clue about what you're posting about; learn the history; learn about more than just LiJ or Bullet Club; just in general get a clue about Japanese wrestling and don't spout stuff you read on here or reddit from other clueless people as gospel.

People don't mind new people getting into their interest or hobby. It's when they're obnoxious about it and think they know what they're talking about that gets people annoyed.

>>2981604
>sleeper
>crossface
Pick one.

>>2981594
>t. started watching in 2016 so that makes me better than people who started watching in 2017

>>2982507
Fucking this.

>>2982524
I've been watching since 2003

>>2982543
not bad, I thought I was an oldfag for watching since 2007.

>>2982543
>>2982553
back to wew then, grampas
this board is only for nu-njpw fans who started watching since 2016 and 2017

>>2982543
>acting better than someone because 'hurrr I've been watching watching longer!'

get a life.

>>2981457
He's very athletic and his gimmick is that he's silent and cold which is a character type with lots of appeal. he has a great look and his moveset is cool.

>>2982556
>wew
They're even bigger new fags.

>>2982556
>>2982560
Even though I've been watching for 13, I don't actually mind the new fans, but like this person said here>>2982507, people here actually believe they know it all, when they're wrong. Try to explain with facts and experience, they'd shit on you.

>>2982563
He got the silent and cold gimmick because he's failed to get over everywhere else he's wrestled, so they just said fuck it lets give him a gimmick where he doesn't talk.

>>2982565
That's why I don't bother anymore, but at least new people are watching NJPW and they're having fun, I'd try not to be a party-pooper pointing out things

>>2982556
To be fair, I only started watching last year, but I only started watching WWE (again) last year, too. Once I watched the Zayn/Nakamura match everyone was talking about, I checked out some New Japan matches (AJ vs. Nakamura was the first) and here I am today. I don't watch a lot of wrestling in general, but when I take the time to watch a full-length match, it's usually from NOAH or New Japan.

>>2982566
Doesn't matter it works.

>>2981457
Him and Evil are the highlight of the G1 for me. Their matches feel fresh and there's an air of unpredictability to them when they wrestle, I'm not sure what they're gonna do next like him faking an injury against Okada, he doesn't normally do that so the match was memorable. Basically they didn't feel on autopilot for any of their matches all tournament unlike the others.

>>2982507
>>2982539
I fail to see how any of this comes into play or question due to OP's innocent asking of "What's Sanada's appeal?".
I'd suggest not being so easily threatened or upset about your past-time.

>>2982507
>l-l-learn about our pasttime!

lmao no, sorry lad nobody cares, ur gonna get swarmed by newfags genuinely enjoying your product as you sit quietly in the corner like a good little irrelevant oldfag crying for inwhoki complaining about based kenners

>>2982658
FUCKING BASED

>>2982658
GOAT
O
A
T

>>2982658
>lmao no, sorry lad nobody cares, ur gonna get swarmed by newfags genuinely enjoying your product as you sit quietly in the corner like a good little irrelevant oldfag crying for inwhoki complaining about based kenners

ALPHA
AS
FUCK

>>2982658
You're not gonna work me lad so don't bother. I've spent so much time working marks on image boards that I'm unworkable.

Then again they said your mother was unworkable but I worked her into letting me shoot on her.

>>2982697
>I'm unworkable

ofc ya are youre a NEET

>>2982697
>>2982702
lmaoooo

>>2982697
Decimated.

>>2981559
what the hell

>>2982697
>>2982702
>oldfag gets touched
>"i-i'm unworkable"
>oldfag tries cringey banter
>gets blown back

OH JEEZ

>>2982702
BAH GAWD THAT MAN HAS A FAMILY
(BUT NO JOB TO SUPPORT THEM)

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>>2982639
>past-time.
literally worked me pham

>>2982697
>>2982702
>>2982721
screencapped god damn savagery ITT

where you at bro that all you got i can go for days gratatatatata

>>2982702
I get to spend more time with your mom this way.

>>2982730
hold him back
hold him back
hes ding-dong diddly wildin out

Stupid Sexy Sanada is good, but yeah, I don't see him being the next big thing or anything. Maybe in 10 years or so he'll get an IWGP title reign or something.

>>2982736
too bad you only ever score with two things:
ya hand and a bodypillow
gratatatattata

>>2982736
>>2982744
thats it im callin the police this man is a cannibal hes eatin u alive

>>2982702
holy fucking GOAT

>>2982702
BAKA SENPAI SMDH LMFAO

>>2982750
You're gonna need a SWAT team.

>>2982756
need a SWAT team to carry you outta bed in the mornin ya big fat fuck
gratatatatata

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>>2982759

Say that to my face not online and see what happens

>>2982760
ill tell ya what happens
ya ding-dong diddly huff and wheeze and try and blow my house down
then ur gonna blow a button off ur shirt

*feints the jab*
*ducks left*
*waves*
*hits ya with a haymaker*
whos next
whos next
gratatatatatata

>>2982759
>gratatatatata

Cringe

>>2982774
said cringe when i saw ya momma's pucci
i thought arbys closed down in my down, idk where she got all that beef
gratatatatatatat

Post his hot ass sister.

>>2982802
What's her name? I tried to look her up to no avail.

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>>2982802
Can't find Sanada's sister, but here's Tozawa's

>>2981918

It's all good. I'm honestly trying not to get myself into the brand war, though there's a lot of crap right now on WWE that made me want to start paying attention more to NJPW in the first place, and as I've heard and now believe? The G1 is the best place to see it. I already have some actual japanese wrestlers besides b-b-b-b-bullet club to get behind now and I fully intend on learning more about the roster as time goes on now that you people have got us here.

For the record though, whether it's wwe or njpw I think people should be able to like what they wanna like. I also want to be able to discuss it and would like to HOPE there are those of you out there that could help some of us new fans out with some trivia or good matches but >>2982507 brings up a good point that dudes who act like they've been here for years just because they've seen a few matches ain't cool.

>>2981821

So you're fine with the Dr. DOOM fingers but the scythe is where you draw the line? I'm genuinely asking, I promise.

I want him to mating press me.

>>2982939
what >>2982507 said is just him trying to be an elitist. If you became an NBA fan over the last 2-3 years and watched a shit load of games what is learning about Michael Jordan gonna do for you? MJ isn't playing and isn't gonna play. You can compare Lebron James to MJ all you want but it's irrelevant. Are you really gonna watch Superbowl 2 if you're becoming an NFL fan? The history is nice to know but won't have a huge effect on todays product. so yeah just like you said "I think people should be able to like what they wanna like". I'm a wwe, mma, nba and nfl mark and never understood why anybody should learn the history.

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>mfw i thought GOATNADA was gonna get a big push this G1 but it instead went to the cringe of darkness

>>2983053
EVIL put in better performances.
Sanada's standout was getting literally carried by Okada. EVIL went back-and-forth and rolled with the literal GOAT.

>>2983053
>Not liking both
I love them equally and I'm super glad EVIL got such a push.

>>2983053
CHADNADA needs to kick EVIL's ass after this.

Is it weird I've always thought of EVIL as Goth RVD?

>>2983222

Fuck me, I can't unsee. Fuck. You.

>>2983226
Now you know my curse. I'm super new to NJPW and it's been fucking with me since I started watching. He's great tho.

>>2983025

You make a good point too. I just saw it as him talking about people who just got into the business and figured they knew more about certain wrestlers like "Evil" when it was obvious that they just cherry picked facts from different sites and ended up coming off as a dumb ass. It's a valid complaint and I've seen it happen before in any media, so I didn't necessarily mind.

Of course I'm not gonna go back to the fucking eighties and start studying up on people who aren't participating in '17 but I'm more than willing to hear people out on old matches that are particularly good and worth seeing if they can be found online.

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>>2981594
>gatekeeping this hard

>>2983053
They had to throw evil a bone after what omemega put him through

Hearing Meltzer and Alvarez trying to defend that really made me think, especially with how hot they got over wwe guys like sheamus and jinder doing way less severe shit

>>2983053
I really like that both EVIL and Sanada have been stepping up their entrances and merch designs

>>2983025
>I'm a wwe, mma, nba and nfl mark and never understood why anybody should learn the history.
Because it's interesting and shaped what you're watching today? Also how can you be an MMA mark and not watch Pride or the early UFC? Current UFC is shit compared to that stuff.

>>2983517
No. Gedo books at least half a year in advance. It wasn't throwing a bone, it is a vote of confidence, that his match with Okada will draw.
So big one for EVIL.
If you don't think that EVIL upsetting Okada and pinning him for the first time IN A YEAR was always intended you should educate yourself on how Gedo does things.

>>2983117
That was weird. Their match together - SANADA won. I thought EVIL would win, him being older. And EVIL got more important win in the end. Just weird desu.
But I guess this G1 was the second test run for SANADA and establishing him more as a bigger star. Not as big to be a title holder yet (besides some tag titles), but as a good midcard competitor. And also building up moonsault as a finisher.

>>2981457
i honestly dont get the appeal of anyone not in wwe, ya dig? its like, would you watch any straight to dvd movies? no? and do you watch famous movies on in theatres in stead? yes? well there you go, thats who japan vs wwe