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Dave Meltzer on NJPW's G1 2017 tour:

>"Business is way up, it's their best business tour of the year and like we mentioned before, business is way up this year. The gates, business for the last three nights are gonna be way, way up because they raised prices significantly and they've sold more tickets than ever before. Now interestingly, the tickets for the last night are all sold out well in advance and they GREATLY increased ticket prices this year. The other two nights are also well ahead of before. And Friday is also sold out and the last time the Friday show in the final 3 has sold out is so far back that I can't even remember, I mean, it would probably be back 20 years, so you know... They're HOT. And the Friday tickets were raised significantly from last year as well which, at the time, was also considered a very strong business tour. Business is great."

NJPW is absolutely WHITE-HOT right now while WWE is struggling to merely flip a 2% profit this year, struggling to sell out arenas, struggling to put asses in seats, struggling to spike ratings, struggling to gain network subscribers, they're cutting costs, they're cutting pyro, network shows, they're booking smaller arenas, they're releasing talented wrestlers just to stay afloat while business is BOOMING for NJPW.

BEST TIMELINE.
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>>2976356
NJPW is like maybe 5% of WWE
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>>2976356
NJPW is not currently white hot. Watching tapes of 80's 90's & early 00's period of company proves your full of shit.
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APOLOGIZE
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>>2976356
fake news NJPWeeb. average attendance for njpw is like 2000. Smackdown and RAW do 10,000 on the regular. Also that image is showing the hard-cam side, where they deliberately keep seats empty. WWE is having all-time high revenue. More people than ever buy their product. They're more popular than ever. Their network subscribers are 2.3 million. njpw has 50,000 worldwide.

Don't make me laugh. WWE is the biggest league
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>>2976362

Jon Jones asked Brock Lesnar "Brock Lesnar, want to know what it's like to get your ass kicked by somebody 40 pounds lighter than you?"

To E-Drones, I ask: How does it feel to get your ass kicked by a company 1/20th of your size?
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>>2976377
nobody outside of some wrestling hardcores has ever heard of this shitty little gook brand
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>weebs not realizing that NJPW is the WWE of Japan
>weebs not realizing they are not a special snowflake for liking NJPW
>weebs not realizing they need to watch more Hideki Suzuki and watch real puro
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>>2976371

>E-DRONE DAMAGE CONTROL

Jesus Christ, you have to be shills, you just HAVE to be. The same tired, regurgitated, disproven and nonsensical arguments, all of you say the SAME FUCKING thing. In ONE post, you managed to say:

>Fake News
>Smackdown and Raw do 10,000 on the regular (Which is a complete and utter lie when you look at these recent attendance figures)
>the Hard Cam excuse
>RECORD HIGH REVENUE (But NO mention of profit, lmfao)
>More popular than ever
>network subscribers which the WWE called genuinely disappointing after Wrestlemania and comparing a worldwide brand to a country who doesn't quite indulge in streaming as much as the united states, is 20 times smaller than the united states AND is a completely fabricated number when you consider that damn near 1 million of those subscribers are on free trials and WILL NOT convert into paying customers once those free trials expire
>DA BIG LEAGSSSZZZ.

Fucking garbage, all of you E-drones are. It's the same verbiage, the same bullet points, most of which are complete nonsense or don't mean shit.
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>>2976391
>>2976371

Oops. Wrong picture.
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>>2976382

"nobody outside of some wrestling hardcores has ever heard of this shitty little gook brand"

I don't know man, the people of twitter on July 1st, 2017 during the G1 special in the USA seem to think otherwise. The G1 special in the USA DOMINATED the Twitter trends, becoming by far the most active event, reaching #1 on that day not only in the UNITED STATES (Which is outside of Japan, just like you said) but WORLDWIDE (also outside of Japan, just like you said). It has mainstream appeal, it has casual and hardcore appeal, it has social media appeal and you're just fucking angry, you're a seething, insecure little e-droney because as delusional as you are, you aren't fucking naive. You see the writing on the wall. Our company is white-hot. Your company is ice-cold and the SCARY THING IS, Football season is riiiiight around the corner and Brock Lesnar's leaving. You'll have NO ONE to save you from your record low ratings and god DAMN I cannot wait.
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>>2976362
And yet it makes nearly a quarter of WWE's profits with maybe a tenth of its revenue

>>2976366
>your full of shit.

durr

>>2976371
>Smackdown and RAW do 10,000 on the regular.

KEK

>deliberately keep seats empty

Funny every time.
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So apparently, here's the building and the capacity of last night's Monday Night Raw. Judging by the crowd size in the picture to the left, does anyone want to guess about how many people actually showed up to Raw last night? What is that, like 7000, 8000?
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>>2976433
they had recent shows in philly and chicago but the crowd were dead. it's clear they're losing fans
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>>2976545

n-n-no their not! WWE is more POPULAR THAN EVER! >>>>2974984


LMFAO!~!
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>>2976356
Reminder that Meltz makes up these numbers and was caught doing it for ROH
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>>2976401
Trending on social media means absolutely nothing and even your cuck god Meltz admits it
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>>2976415
You realize WWE could easily downsize and crush NJPW's profits right?

Five Guys turns a better profit than McD's, guess they're gonna be replacing them soon.
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>>2976371
>hard camera side
Hiding all the empty seats out of shot of the camera doesn't mean they aren't there. Besides, that says nothing of the entire top half of the arena being empty.

>all time high revenue
Because they're spending more than ever accessing new markets and revenue streams. They are barely turning a profit. Anybody with a million bucks can sink a million bucks into something and get a million bucks back out.
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>>2976608
yeah downsizing their consumerbase over the past couple of years has gone real well for WWE

>>2976575
>source: your ass
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BASED SHIN NIHON PURORESU
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>>2976356
Anyone have an upload for todays show? Want to hear his review on RAM last night
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>>2976433
It's concert bowl mode, with a big chunk of seats taken by the ring & ramp. So take out about 500 from the stated 10k capacity, then another 2500 of seats that aren't filled in that half-empty stand.

I reckon about 7000.

If the stand where the photo was taken, or the stand to the right that isn't shown are also less than full it'll be even less.
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>>2976401

Does NJPW pay you to do this? I hope you're being compensated for your work.
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>>2976716
>Anyone have an upload for todays show? Want to ride and suck his cock while he reviews last night's RAM
FTFY
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>>2976768
thanks for the edit, that is what I actually meant. question still stands though
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>>2976768

Criiiiiiiiinge

"Stop liking and listening to someone who I don't like ONLY I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES AND DOES NOT INDULGE IN"

E-drones, everyone.
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>>2976928
>Criiiiiiiiinge
Criiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinge
>"Stop liking and listening to someone who I don't like ONLY I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES AND DOES NOT INDULGE IN"

>E-drones, everyone.
Meltzer-drones, everyone.
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I'm going to Wrestle Kingdom in january and this shit scares me.
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>>2976356
oh boy, the japanese bingo hall touring "promotion" is "hot" by their little "standards". nobody gives a shit in the big leagues ya little faggot bitch.

>mfw outlaw wrestling fedora tippers think their little niche garbage will EVER touch the big leagues
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>>2976433
>>2976401
>>2976395
>>2976391
beggin ya to seek sunlight
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>>2977040
>Big leagues
>Can't afford pyro
Really fire up ur neurons.
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>>2976356
>Read all of that
>Imagine Trump's voice
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>>2977040
Dominion & Sakura Genesis did better than Backlash & Battleground
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>>2977074
not an argument, fedora tipper.

>>2977107
>some no name garbage "allegedly" did better than the big league's C level PPVs

i'm betting that cuckminion and shitkura geneshit are nu japan's A level shows as well. fucking LMFAO at these little shrimp boys thinking their little food van sidewalk wrestling dog shit can compete AT ALL.
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>>2976356

When you start from 0 dimes, 1 dime looks like el dorado.
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BASED.
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>>2976608
That's most strawman shit I've seen in awhile. Crazy, out of touch millionaires, franchises, entertainment vs dining, wrestling vs fucking cheeseburgers, etc. There's nothing in common there, idiot.
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>>2977360
>cuckminion and shitkura geneshit
Cringe
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More importantly, All Japan's business is also going up
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>>2978229
Baba would not improve of what All Japan has become.
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>>2976356
I want Meltzer to break his head open while walking down the stairs.
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>>2976356
kys meltzer drone nobody is ever going to watch gooks besides smarks and other gooks
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>>2978224
not an argument, stupid, projecting faggot.
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>>2978259
Why are E drones so aggressive? Is it because they are literal cult members and are threatened when people point out their product is shit?
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>>2976356

GOAT
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>>2976366
Well, revenue-wise, they're getting closer to the 90's level.
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>>2980170

Holy fucking shit this BTFOs the E-Drones. Notice how SILENT they got. And they're only NOW warming up. In only a few years, they're poised to have their best year ever, which is the opposite for the WWE. BASED GEDO, OMEGA AND TANAHASHI SAVING NJPW.
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>>2980209
Console wars poster please go.
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>>2980170
I just...find that so hard to believe. NJPW was so huge in the 90's and the guys were mainstream. I mean..Okada is sort of mainstream thanks to that cartoon and Makabe is mainstream, but that's about it.
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>>2980219
Considering inflation, that 39m was a lot more money back in 97.
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>>2980219
>>2980170

"NJPW is not white hot. Watching tapes from the 80's and 90's proves you're full of shit"

*Another anon posts a graph indicating 2017 is set to be one of their greatest years, if not their greatest year in company history*

"I just... I find that so hard to believe"

LOL, fucking E-drones, when will you learn?
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>>2980219
It's the same reason why WWE has such higher revenue than they did in the mid '80s and late '90s: diversification of income streams. Back then, it was pretty much only ticket sales and their Japanese TV deal. They barely did merchandising. Now they do huge merch business, product licensing, and NJPW World as well. The amount of money they make from pure ticket sales is lower but they make up for it in other ways.

>>2980223
The Japanese yen's value has been basically flat since the '90s.

Just so anyone is aware, the bar graph numbers are x100 million yen.
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IT'S HAPPENING.

It's all starting to make sense now, isn't it? He's gone dark on Twitter since the end of May. The event taking place in Chicago, Illinois, in the biggest crowd and quickest sellout in ROH history. The company he started with, the company he helped build, he has come back to boost it to newfound heights alongside Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks. This is what a HOT product looks like, E-drones. This is what a product ON FIRE looks like, E-drones. Take a good, long look. You scared yet?
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>>2980445
Phil should have gone to NJPW years ago instead of damaging his reputation in the UFC.
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BASED
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How does NJPW do it, bros? Is this the greatest turnaround a wrestling company has ever had? They literally went from bankruptcy to #2 and closing the distance, eventually overtaking WWE for the #1 spot.
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>>2976356
All i see is Dave Meltzer asslicking njwp and retards making a big deal out of it
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>>2980664

SEETHING. Are you mad because NJPW is quite literally having one of its best years in history while WWE is having legitimately one of its worst?
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