TIL Cena has only been pinned clean 14 times in the past 10 years

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>>2961116
>tfw he's done more clean jobs than Hulkkk

>Owens
>Del Rio
>Ambrose

I hate Super Cena but these honestly should not have happened

surely its more than that

are we not counting Punk?

>>2961123
Fun Fact: Hogan only lost clean to 14 people his ENTIRE CAREER:

>Bob Armstrong
>Andre The Giant
>Antonio Inoki (once by pin, once by submission)
>Tony Atlas
>Ultimate Warrior
>Jaques Rougeau
>Kurt Angle
>Roddy Piper
>Sting
>Goldberg
>The Rock
>Triple H
>Brock Lesnar
>Lex Luger

>>2961116
Well I instantly know this is wrong because Bray pinned him clean at Elimination Chamber this year.

I'll be there are alot more too if whoever compiled this missed one that was so recent.

>>2961132
>Owens shouldn't have happened

Yeah he should've looked like a chump in his first match, that would've been a good career move.

>>2961139
Also just remember Bray beat Cena clean on Smackdown like the next night in a triple threat with AJ.

>>2961138
Interesting how many of those losses happened late in his career. I don't think Hogan lost clean to Piper until WCW but I could be wrong.

>>2961139
>>2961146
From context it seems this is about singles matches without any gimmicks

>>2961139
Probably the stat was for 1 on 1 matchups.

>>2961143
Owens was actually Cena's choice. The only reason he was brought up when he was is because Cena wanted to work with him and put him over.
#Trufax

>>2961150
That's exactly what it is. This guy:
>>2961139
is incapable of understanding context.

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>>2961132
it shouldn't happend because you hate those wrestlers? seems really dumb.

>>2961138
Yeah and we're not counting Cena's clean loss record from OVW?
In that case Hogan's first real loss would have been during his red and yellow hulkamania era and thus his first loss to Andre on SNME

Goldberg - one clean loss his entire career
Ultimate Warrior - one clean loss his entire career

>>2961151
>>2961150
My bad, OP just said pinned clean, didn't mention 1 v 1.

>>2961162
Warrior clean loss??

>>2961157
>Yeah and we're not counting Cena's clean loss record from OVW?
No the OP clearly states Cena's clean losses in the past 10 years. Learn to read.
>In that case Hogan's first real loss would ha
oh wait the rest of your post is already invalid.

>>2961162
Who beat Warrior?

>>2961176
OP here, I should have been more clear on that.

>>2961192
>>2961196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJYb2Jfli2I

>>2961193
>oh wait the rest of your post is already invalid.

goddamn, fucking ruthless

>>2961193
>>2961138
I was comparing this on his entire career as per this post you mongoloid

>>2961205
I wonder if this was a shoot. Since warrior was stiff with Andre

>>2961138

didn't he lose to Yokozuna at KOTR though at a way of fucking over Bret?

>>2961116
>>Triple H (Raw, 2009)
>>The Rock (WrestleMania, 2012)
Damn

>>2961213

not clean

Camera exploded in his face

>>2961156
Nice assumption. I like Owens and Del Rio.
(I actually hate Batista and Trips, but I'm not saying those shouldn't have happened).

I'm saying it because their power level wasn't high enough. They were trying to meme them into having that power level by beating Super Cena, which isn't organic.

It wouldn't even be bad if the memeing worked and they were A+ players. But none of them worked.
>Owens
I like him but he's still a B+ player. Even for main event stints like his Galactic champ run, winning clean is not and should not be his thing. He's a vicious but cheating and lucky young fat fuck. That's how he gets victories.
>Deanetty
is shit. Partly booking's fault, partly his own. He's a shitty brooklyn brawler/stone cold imitation in-ring, has a cringey gimmick. They only even gave him the WWE belt so they could tick the box for 'all 3 shield guys have been champs!', when it's clear he's a step beneath Seth and BBD. And he proved it. He's been better this year since being demoted back to the IC level, and looks more confortable too. IC level is his ceiling (desu should be lower, like a Hardcore champ). But bascially the rub failed, and thus he should never have gone clean over Super Cena in the first place.
>Del Rio
lol
I actually like him. In-ring and character. To me he was a convincing 2nd tier heel World champ. Never the top heel, but can do a good stint in that slot. But he's not even there any more. Another waste of a clean victory over Super Cena.

>>2961200
It you're only looking at one v one matches Cena is a pure gent at putting people over in recent years. Cena had seven one v one matches in 2016 and lost two of them clean.

>>2961213
Rigged camera man interfered

>>2961205
House shows aren't canon unfortunately

>>2961213
Wasn't clean.

>>2961212
>getting mad because you didn't understand this discussion

Are (You) doing this in every thread now?

>>2961218
>He's a vicious but cheating and lucky young fat fuck. That's how he gets victories.

Funny how this wasn't his character until he won the Universal Title

>>2961220
Cena has enough cred to lose every single match from now on till his Hall of Fame induction and he'll still be the top dog

>>2961218
>power levels
what the fuck am i reading? dbz fan fic?

Cena and Hogan ain't shit. How many times did Hacksaw Duggan get pinned clean? Go ahead I'll wait.

>>2961227
I don't know about that. It's already losing it's shine. Nakamura going over clean felt predictable.

That shitty 16th """""reign"""" followed by a phoned in midcard Mania match didn't help.

>>2961218
>>2961229
I stopped reading at power levels, the rest of the post became null and void from that point.

>>2961226
suits him much better though, wouldn't you say?

>>2961229
>>2961242
where the fuck do you think we are, son?

>>2961138
>Sting

Hogan pinned him clean until Bret restarted the match for whatever reason

>>2961237
I went a little too far with the hyperbole, but it does paint a picture when Cena put over Nak and Owens. It was predictable with Nak, but it would be something to see if Cena put over someone newer like Aleister Black
Now if Cena put over Roman...

>>2961247
I dunno, I like Owens better now as an all around asshole with a nasty attitude and a nasty personality rather than just another chickenshit. Miz is the reigning chickenshit and play the part like no one else

>>2961116
FUCK JOHN CENA!

>>2961242
I don't know senpai. Do you think Krillin could ever be in the main event picture?

>>2961247
>>2961289

Was meant for (you)

Cena's never kicked out at 3.1 when putting someone over either.

>>2961138
>Sting
>Clean
Hogan beat the shit out of him for eight minutes, pinned him clean and then Bret came out and restarted the match for no reason lmao

>>2961306
>>2961261


HARR HARR WE GET IT NICK PATRICK FUCKED UP

>>2961261
>>2961306
>YOU MAKE THAT COUNT NICE AND SLOW, BROTHER.

>>2961297
Does that even happen any more?

>>2961318
>fucked up
>implying Hogan didn't tell him to do that

>>2961322
It usually doesn't but around Mania, there was a streak of like three weeks in a row where Sami Zayn would get the shit kicked out of him for an entire match, get a roll-up and the opponent would kick out at 3.00000001

I'm pretty sure it was Owens, Jinder and Miz and you know Owens would never do that on his own so you can bet somebody was telling them to do that.

>>2961116
>only

That's quite a lot of losses for a man in his position. How many times did Hulk Hogan lay down for someone from 1985 to 1995? By my recollection it was only one: to Ultimate Warrior at WM VI.

>>2961297
Nothing wrong with the 3 and 1/100 of a second kickout.

>>2961138
>losing clean to Jacques Rougeau
wat

>>2961448
wcw houseshow in Quebec.
Hogan put him over because of Rougeau's hometown

>>2961116
>only
None of these should have happened except the losses to Brock and Big Dave

>>2961116
About half the list are people undeserving

>Great Khali
>Big Show
>Kevin Owens
>Alberto Del Rio
>Dan Ambrose

>>2961116
How many times did Austin lose clean after he became the guy?

>>2961116
He was pinned clean by Orton at both Wrestlemania 24 and Backlash, then by JBL at the Great American Bash. Cena lost clean like 5 straight PPVs in 2008.

>>2961779
>clean finishes
>attitude era

bro...

>>2961784
A heel never won clean back then

>>2961766
>>2961218
>Seething aspies are so blinded by meme opinions and rage they can't understand why Dean needed that victory

If it makes you feel better fat boys it was a roll up

>>2961297
another subtle way to no-sell a loss is rolling over right after the pin.
when owens won he rolled out like he it was a fire drill

>>2961796
As they should

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>>2961796
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE GAME AND HOW YOU PLAY IT

>>2961796
Nobody won clean back then

>>2961116
Pretty sure Roman has only been pinned clean twice in normal 1v1s since shield broke up 3 years ago.
He's on pace to beat Cena!

>>2962136
Wasn't he pinned clean by both Ambrose and Rollins?

>>2962136
he only got those 2 due to a drug pinch.
rollins hardly counts, and balor counted so much they had to have an injured reigns go over clean on a raw. i'm surprised it wasn't demon balor

>>2961116
>only HHH has 2

Of course

>>2961218
Del Rio felt more main event when he had his announcer and car
Also from what I heard from Mexicans seen him in Mexico he is a lot better in Spanish than in English where he phones it in

>>2962160
what

>>2962154
Rollins and Balor
Everything else has been multi or stipulations.

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>>2961138
Here's the final minute or so of Hogan's loss to Bob Armstrong in 1979

>>2962373
How many guys do you see on that list twice?

>>2962489
>heel hogan before hollywood
>moves fast
>sells
surreal

>>2961261

The clean loss happened at Superbrawl 98

>>2962489
that's not a clean loss

>>2962792
it's absolutely a clean loss. or maybe you don't know how hulk hogan looks like

People go on about how Cena never loses clean, but look how special all these moments were because he lost clean.

Works the rednecks

>>2961116
>Triple H (Raw, 2009)
>The Rock (WrestleMania, 2012)

That 3 year gap

>>2961116
Note how the list is comprised entirely of:
draws
very popular people
advanced politics
people earmarked for big things (irrespective of if it worked out or not)
almost as if it's a business where things happen for specific reasons

That's actually a lot for a top guy. How many people did Austin lose cleanly too?

>>2962969
He lost to Phil during that time. Was that not clean?

>>2962099

You don't know what you're talkingabout my dude, the roll is for filming purposes. Unless it is specifically booked that they interact after the match they always roll out. Owens also laid him out and stomped on his belt before that.

Cena chose to put over Owens and both he and Rock support Owens for some reason, I don't know why.

Nobody in the crowd thinks less of Owens win because Cena rolled out. We all think less of it because of his neverending feud with Zayn and the botched Universal run.

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>>2964230
It wasn't clean. Cena was distracted by ADR and Vince.

>>2964215
how can you compare the two?

Austin was on top for about 3 years and Cena over a decade

>>2964252
>We all
Stop including me.

>>2961116
>Top babyface loses clean just over once a year on average
Seems pretty right to me desu

>>2964308
Johnny Ace, not ADR.

>>2964252
>We all think less of it because of his neverending feud with Zayn and the botched Universal run.
No I think it's because Cena immediately beat him again two times after.

>>2961116
Sweetie he was a jobber in 2003.