ITT: New Japan Pro Wrestling - The Facts

>Lets go over the facts:
Okay.
>Mainstream acceptance: non-existent
Well, that didn't last long.

>>2789293

Bullshit, if you go outside and ask anyone what new Japan is no one is gonna have any clue. Quit being a mark, dumbass.

>>2789307
I have a question for you, and this is a genuine question.

Do you think the entire world and everything that encompasses the "mainstream" only extends as far as you personally can go outside and walk?

But NJPW specifically has gone up about 200% in revenue in the last 10 years. Even from nothing, that's pretty significant.

Anyway, this is just a bait post and I'm here to remind people that it's not a competition and you should just watch wrestling that you enjoy and don't watch wrestling that you don't enjoy.

>>2789333
Mainstream=what's popular in the in the U.S. and the west

>>2789307

If you go outside and ask anyone "Do you know Seth Rollins?"
Even though he was on ESPN this week because he's going to be on the next video game cover, they'd have no idea.

>>2789340
So that's a yes.

I understand this thread a lot more now.

>>2789273

Are you describing New Japan or WWE? I'm confused.

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Thinking NJPW isn't a successful wrestling company when it is at its most successful point in history and is producing a quality product with some of the best matches in ages.

On the other hand you have wwe, a company that strays away from being a actual wrestling product and is more of a soap opera for man children. Right now it is producing some of the worst matches in ages and is quite frankly embarrassing to admit that you even watch it.

NJPW crowds are far better than WWE crowds. The difference being that NJPW crowds are entertained by their product so there is no need for them to hijack a show. WWE crowds are also filled with lemmings who chant their lemming phrases night in and out and think they are actually part of the show.

Better to be a company that puts out a quality wrestling product that stays true to the wrestling art form than a company that puts out shit on a weekly bases that spits on wrestling as an art.

>>2789342
Doubt. Some guy on ESPN will have a far better chance of being recognized on aggregate than Okada, of shibata, or sizuku, hell over even omega

>>2789273
>ITT: SEETHING NJ-Drones

>>2789353
And if you want to Japan, the opposite of that would happen. Really, you can only argue this by pretending that Japan doesn't exist, which is kind of silly when it's the second word in the company's name.

>>2789342
NJPW isn't mainstream
WWE stopped being mainstream years ago
there- we can agree on that

>>2789352
>using le meltz meme stars as an argument
Hmm. Also MITB out drew Dominion by a huge margin. Also the WWE network has far more subs than NJPWs equivalent

>>2789361
It does not take a genius to know that Dominion had better match quality and is the superior wrestling product. WWE is not a wrestling program anymore, but a children's television program for man children like yourself. Now go put another Kid Cuisine in the oven.

>>2789340
>>2789344
It's better when shitposters are at least a bit honest on how they operate, isn't it?

>>2789357
But if we did a poll of japan and asked if they know who John Cena or Brock Lesner were we would have the majority again. Mainstream is being recognized outside of your sphere

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>>2789365
>a children's television program for man children like yourself. Now go put another Kid Cuisine in the oven

>>2789368
NJPW is mainstream in a country with like 125 mil people and is growing on the rest of the wrestling world.
You can redefine the meaning all you want, but you just end up looking retarded

>>2789365
But I was more entertained by MITB. In fact the finish to the womans MITB match had more people talking about it than Okada vs Kennys 26 star match

>>2789376
Outraging white knights and hambeasts and making them whine instead of impressing with the quality of the match is not what I'd expect as a bragging point.

>>2789374
Sure if you want to pigeonhole what mainstream is, go for it. Lol enjoy your niche wrasslin show

>>2789273
24/7

>>2789368
Brock Lesnar wrestled for New Japan, that doesn't say much.

>>2789381
Who would legitimately be impressed with fake fighting anyway? Watch UFC if you want to see combat.

>>2789384
Pro wrestling in japan is not a niche by any means. I will enjoy the good wrestling product, thank you

>>2789384
Enjoy your children's program, otherwise known as birth control because you're not getting laid watching that.

>>2789390
I want to be impressed by character shenanigans and choreography.
WWE has fallen behind the last 3 years

>E-drones trying this hard to bash NJPW
TOP KEK EBABBIES SEETHING

>NJ-drones trying this hard to defend their shitty promotion
TOP KEK NEWJAFAGS SEETHING

>>2789399
>Literally copying the post above because you have no defense for WWE
MY FUCKING SIDES

>droneposters trying this hard to push their shitty meme promotion war
Top kek I hate you all.

>>2789400
>doesn't even bother coming up with his own argument
HOLY FUCKING CRINGE

>>2789391
Are you kidding? Wrestling is just as nerdy over there as it is over here. Hell NJPW has awful TV ratings and poor live show attendance. Weebs man lol

>>2789391
>duur ur a virgin
>cuz I watch japanese wrestling like a sophisticated gentlemen
lol if you're going to use internet insult 101 at least try not to be so delusional

>>2789400
>Literally seething this hard because he knows the E is living rent free in his head
MY FUCKING SIDES

Now, if only this could actually go beyond just internet shitposting in a Turkmen carpet weaving imageboard and into the actual mainstream, so NJPW can actually be recognized by the general public and WWE has actual competition, thus stoping half-assing their show in decadence.

>>2789407
eh second one was meant for this winner >>2789392

>top two wrestlers in NJPW are exoticos
>a redditors only argument is a glorified dWeeb's ranking system which has no merit
>LU is objectively better but they will deny this and talk about stars
>the top two """stars"""" have pics of them with their butts out and a redditor will call this """"charisma""""
>one of the top guys ended his career with a heabutt and will now be forced to work in a sweat shop to provide for his family
>they have to ask middle school coaches if they are finished with the gym so they can set up the ring
>the top two stars have admitted to being gay but a redditor will defend this as a """"joke"""""
>Asuka is fat
>Last but not least these deluded redditors believe Cody Rhodes will beat out WWE on US soil but call WWE fans e-drones when they are drinking coolers filled with koolaid

Can a redditor please defend this? If not x out of the browser and get a clue you dWeebs.

>>2789393
>I want to watch a circus performance
Okay buddy.

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>>2789405
>>2789409
>>2789407
>Being this desperate
HAHAHAHAHAHA KEEP SEETHING E-DRONES

You know what I just realized? If you go up to someone irl and say, "Hey, do you know what WWE is? they will say, 99% of the time, yes. Now try it with NJPW and they will say "What's that?".
The only place where the actual "NJ is competition to WWE" meme exists is on this board.

NuJapan thoroughly and eternally BTFO

>>2789418
You JUST realized that in America, the company from America will be recognized more than the company from Japan? You really just realized that, just now?

You're a bit slow.

>>2789420
WWE fans are slow, what a surprise

>>2789418
>An american wrestling company operating for decade in the states is more likely to be acknowledged by people living in the states than a japanese one

Holy fucking shit, we found the resident genius of this board.
You wasting your talents, son.

>>2789273
>Lets go over the facts
alright pinhead, let's look at the adjective; facts.

fact 1: kenny omega is a better wrestler than 99% of the wwe's roster

fact 2: NJPW's main demographic is adults, WWE's is children.

fact 3: in 5 years, every single WWE title has lost all meaning and prestige, while the IWGP Heavyweight Championship has gained an incredible amount of prestige in the same amount of time

fact 4: the bullet club is so popular the WWE had to poach them all, and the crowd is still a sea of bullet club shirts, completely overshadowing flagship wrestlers.

fact 5: the best talent in WWE right now, are all from NJPW and TNA

take a shower, hit the weights, get a clue.

>>2789418

Incoming 'I was pretending to be retarded'?

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>>2789424
You're right, you know.

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>>2789374
TOPKEK NJPW often struggles to draw 1,000 paying fans to their little mickey mouse halls and gymnasiums. And those are cards with Okada, Omega, and Tanahashi!

>>2789273
>Mainstream acceptance: Fuck off Normie get out
>House sdhow attendance: It's doing good now, definitely better than WWE
>Subscribers are growing you troll
>Not true, they're pretty loud especially in Osaka, now idk if you like fat smelly smarks chanting THIS IS AWESOME after every move, then BTFO.

Why do you people argue about which promotion is better? Genuinely asking.

>>2789437
because this is a board for yelling at each other about things we have no stake in.

>>2789433
>muh Korakuen Hall!
>Meanwhile Osaka Jo Hall sells out weeks in advance

>>2789437
Something to talk about on an otherwise dead board

>>2789442
This.

>>2789437
Carter started these threads to divide us. the dumbfucks on this board took the bait and that's why we're here today

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>tfw WWEChads and NJBros will never get along because of this false flagging, /v/-tier, Carter shitposting bullshit

>>2789437
It's fun. I argue for and against both sides.

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>>2789440
>Muh Osaki Hall
>>WWE sells out Barclays 3 nights in a row - and draws bigger crowd for its developmental promotion than Dominion

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>>2789498
A Barclays Center filled with nigger 'n normies, man children 'n NEETS. Big deal. NJPW carters towards a mature audience who respect professional wrestling as an art, not a bastardized form of "sports entertainment" starring straight to DVD release F tier actors who failed in their previous careers and actresses who would have a hard time finding work at your local Cheetas strip club.

WWE fans are some of the lowest of society's low. True reprobate bottom feeder riffraff. No respectable woman would dare be seen with an E-tard when she can truly be sated by the eternal NJPW chad with matching Bullet Club shirt.

>>2789273
>njpw
>no girl wrestlers
>just muffin ass tier valets

so when's the piss break?

I find it unfathomable that there are actual virgins out there who constantly defend WWE to the death. Like absolutely nothing about them is worth defending.

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>>2789668
>E CAN'T SELL ARENAS HUHUHHU
>Gets proven wrong
>WELL IT CATERS TO NORMIES SO THATS WHY
The absolute state of (You)

>>2789668
>seething

>>2789852

The juniors. Who wants to see BUSHI Jon to KUSHIDA for the hundredth time.

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Based OP working the fat weeb smarks.

>>2789337
This guy gets it.

At this point, NJPW vs. WWE is almost as sad as modern console fanboy-ism or D&D edition wars.

>>2789668
look at this fag

>>2789852

Gaijin tag matches. Even though they're usually pretty good.

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>>2789914
Such a simple yet hilarious response. Thanks for the kek, anon.

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>not a single person recognizes OP's post is a remake of Jericho's WWF debut promo from 1999
>everyone tripping over themselves to fall for this tastefully prepared bait
smdh @ u /asp/
.

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>>2789452
>this poster

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>>2789991
What the fuck OP was based all along

>>2789991

Everyone ITT has been so worked by based OP.

>>2790066
Hello OP

>>2789293
All of wrestling is not mainstream. Very few people know who John Cena even is.

is Thread of the Year an Observer Award?

>>2789358
Wwe hasn't been mainstream since daniel bryan left. Seriously, my last year of highschool was when daniel bryan won at WM and even normies knee who he was.

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WAAAAAIIIIIIIT A MINUTE

I recognize those sentences, mister.

>>2790132
These fucking young boi faigts today need to watch their tapes.
Every single last one of them got worked like the dirty lowdown mark scum they are.

>>2789340
Imagine being this much of a puny-minded white trash yokel

>>2789353
>sizuku

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>>2789991
>mfw i got worked into a shoot

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>>2789273
>the refuge of WWE
thanks for proving our point

>>2789668
>WWE fans are some of the lowest of society's low.

Then why are you trying so hard to get them to switch to NJPW? Nu Japan isn't getting many new """wrestling''''' fans in America and what little new viewers they get are just some of the 2-3 million hard core marks that watch wwe every week. I'm not entirely sure what you're purpose is.

but i do agree with this
>True reprobate bottom feeder riffraff.
because that describes all wrestling fans.

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The true reprobate bottom feeder riffraff getting assmad because people are pointing out that their product is shit no matter how hard they try to convince themselves that it isn't when deep down inside they know it to be true.

MFW

>>2792772
>their product is shit no matter how hard they try to convince themselves that it isn't when deep down inside they know it to be true.

look at the main page threads. Apparently nobody is a draw, nobody drew a dime, nobody watches WWE, everybody's a manlet, every gimmick sucks, 205 live rope color sucks, marking for Finny etc etc etc.

We know exactly how bad WWE is and that the only person that has ever done anything of any significance in the wrestling business is Kevin Nash and even that's up for debate since it all pretty much relies on a picture of him wearing shorts showing his legs.

>>2789273

Japanese crowds react differently.

>>2792844
This board is just memes dood don't try to take anything seriously here or you'll just become mad/sad and never be glad