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Meltzer BTFOs anti-smarks again

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>muh big muscular guys draw dimes

Not really.

Anti-smark homosexual neets btfo.
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>>2715554
>believing Meltzer when it wasn't even his research.

It was a guy called Chris Harrington. Meltzer regularly publishes his research in his newsletters.

Meltzer BTFO by NWOWOLFPACTV again
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Meltzer exposed as not even doing the research
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>>2715554
Big guys don't draw?

muh really?
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>posting your own tweets on /asp/ again.
Get a hobby, dude.
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>>2715580
He doesn't have time to do much research . He uses shit from wannabe Meltzers like Brandon Howard, Chris Harrington and Matt Famer. It's usually flawed also but naïve people like OP buy it as fact.
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>>2715585

Crying about based wolfy again.

I'm not him btw.
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>It's a Wolfcuc shills his twitter thread
Well at least Cuckpoli and Russo aren't trying to shill their crap as often as they used to.
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>>2715585
Wolfchad is Based senpai
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>>2715592
SEETHING
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>>2715590
>>2715594
I legitimately don't know which would be more pathetic, being him or being a fan of his.
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>>2715596
Being a hater of his? rent free in ya head
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>Wolfcuc desperately trying once again to get Meltzer to notice him
That's kinda sad Tbh
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>>2715576
>believing NWO Wolfcuc who has been caught lying on this site too.

>NWO Wolfcuc worked into a frenzy by Meltzer
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>>2715598
Not as sad as stalking his twitter to actually know he tries to get Meltzer's attention. If you don't stalk his twitter, you pretend to not care but take time in your day to make comments about him on /asp proving you really do care.....sad!
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>>2715554
There's a subset of people who want all wrestlers to have big hunky arms with muscles that make them feel so safe.

Those people are called size queens.
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>Don't you know who you're dealing with kid? Well you're about to.
>This was me being nice, so I suggest you think twice before responding with another pathetic comment because next time, I will intellectually rape you even worse than I did here

>The state of anti-smarklets
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Meltzer: person who has built his own reputation through quality work and is regularly invited by wrestlers to talk, including appearing on Stone Cold Podcast

NWO Wolfcuc: a neet with a youtube channel that gets 1000 views a month if he's lucky, and whose idol Kevin Nash refuses to acknowledge

Who am I going to trust?
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>>2715602
OP here, I might have read 6 tweets of Meltzer in my life and the replies, Wolfcuc replies 4-5 times for each Meltzer tweets.

I don't need to check all his tweets or all Meltzer tweets to notice a trend.
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>>2715576
based wolfcuc exposing neetzer once again
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Y'know that "I feel bad for you" "I don't think about you." image?

That's Wolfpac and Meltzer.
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>>2715610
The fact you treat Meltzer like a Christian treats the Bible says it all.

Meltzer is credible but he's not always right. He is not the gospel.

I can see why you're a fan of Meltzer. Your lack of due diligence really hurts your attempts to be taken seriously.
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Wolfcuc SEETHING in this thread. Big Dick Meltz lives in ya head rent free.
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>>2715610
>quality work
Writing about fakefighting for a long time isn't quality work, even more when you take the fact Meltzer has never worked in the business to begin with.
>including appearing on Stone Cold Podcast
Vince Russo appeared there too, twice, and I don't see everybody praising him.
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>>2715614
Thanks for admitting you stalk Wolfpac's twitter.

I just looked at Wolfpac's Twitter. In last two months (April and May) he's made (rough estimate) 100 tweets and only 6 were towards Meltzer.

Way to easy to refute you autistic fuck.
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>>2715671
>hatin on Big Ratings Russo
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>>2715673
You seem upset. Maybe you should watch some Kevin Nash """matches""" and do some more autistic pointless research.
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>>2715674
I don't hate him, I'm just saying Meltzer showing on Stone Cold Podcast isn't precisely a feat nor it makes him legit
Russo's great, Castrating the Marks is the best podcast I've ever heard
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>>2715676
I'm the guy WINNING here so why would I be upset?

Go read Meltzer's some xeroxed piece of shit newsletter and believe every word he says lol

I already ued "autistic" as an insult, you brain dead aspergers sheep.
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>>2715688
>he thinks he's winning
Meltz is living a happy successful life, Nash endorses vanilla midgets and will never acknowledge your existence. While you are 40 year old neet who spends all his time researching wrestling figures and statistics. Yeah, you're the real winner here, bud. Stay worked by Big Dick Meltz
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>>2715669
Redditfags of /asp SEETHING at BASED Wolfpac in da house. He works you like NeetHammer.

The real G's of /asp are down with Wolfpac.
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>>2715708
>Calls me a redditfag
>uses reddit spacing
What u mean Carter?
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>>2715705
Meltzer works 17 hour days. Neglects his wife and children. Tweeted about wanting to watch random Japanese bullshit promotion on Xmas day.

Don't even fucking care about Nash. You got my age wrong by miles - way younger. You actually think I'm Wolfpac!

Keep being triggered everytime you seeing his name.
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Based Wolfpac working obese smarks itt
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>>2715705
>Meltzer happy

5'5
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>believing meltzer
whats next? CNN is real news?
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wolfpack bk causin mass destruction!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5P4kOCnQG8
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>>2715576
>wolfcuctv literally fuming over big dick meltz stating the facts
kek, suicide when?
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>>2715665
>20 million views
>not a single penny
SAD!
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>>2715759
>Entire channel is built around shit that happened in WCW that nobody cares about
>People are no longer capable of making money through wrestling videos
>He does it for free
The state of Wolfcuc
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>>2715753
Hate to break this to you mate but Meltzer didn't state facts. He tweeted about data that was inaccurate from someone else and Wolfpac exposed it.
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>>2715737
>p-pls watch my channel less than 1000 views in a month

pathetic
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>>2715708
Carter plz
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>>2715762
>nobody cares about
20 million views
>can't make money
he never made money according to his tweets
>does it for free
randomly uploads videos about a hobby he enjoys and works /asp virgins into a shoot in the process
LEGEND!
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>itt wolfcuc sperging out
i love /asp/
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>>2715771
>bitching about Wolfpac on /asp
even more pathetic
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>>2715671
see, here is how it goes:

Meltzer: quality opinion 10/10
Russo: some great things, some idiotic things 5/10
Wolfcuc: neet begging to suck off Kevin Nash, who never even acknowledges him 0/10

Wolfcuc is the measure stick for irrelevance and idiocy. A nobody with retarded opinions that noone cares about.
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>>2715782
>He makes 30$ a day whining about manlets
>wants to be respected about it

Holy fuck, if he worked at McDonalds he'd make more.

30$ a day, true dimes.
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>>2715785
Wolfpac > you

Jealous much? You will never be as relevant as Wolfpac little man
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>>2715787
>Your logic
Literally retarded. Having a youtube channel doesn't mean you don't earn living working real job
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>>2715789
Do you realize he makes far below minimum wage?

I don't even need to brag about my salary. Flipping burgers at McDonalds is more profitable than Wolfcuc will ever be.
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>>2715795
yeah making youtube videos requires a few mins

lol

jobbying the in bingo halls is more profitable than him
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>>2715782
btw, you just confirmed you are him

sup Wolfcuc? Still crying about Bryan sending ratings up?
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>>2715796
My guess is you know nothing about him. All speculation/wild assumptions. But if it makes you feel better about your nothing happening life insulting someone as BASED like WolfpacTV knock yourself out have fun! very soon you're gonna have to go out in the real world and no more shitposting on /asp for you my friend bc you'll be in a dead end job working 9-5 wishing you were as over as Wolfpac who'll still doin his thang!
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>>2715803
>p-pls stop bullying Wolfcuc
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I'm feeling a bit sad for Wolfcuck
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>>2715716

>uses reddit spacing

So you know what reddit spacing is supposed to look like? Oh dear, appears you have exposed yourself like your uncle exposed himself to you all those years ago.

Wolfpac marches onward to eternal victory.
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>>2715799
Not him. Honest! but I did ask him about "Bryan sending ratings up" the other day and he was kind enough to send me this.

Knew you Bryan fanboys were full of shit. Sorry but you're just not as intelligent or knowledgeable as Wolfpac.
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>>2715782
>steals video segments from WWE
>all copyrighted material
>still makes 30$ a day average out of it

is Wolfcuc the worst thief of all times?
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>>2715838
The funny thing is that even if we accepted his argument that Bryan gets ''3.02''

Bryan is still the highest rated title reign among the last 15, flat compared to the previous year

While Roman still stands out at - 0.45

So, if Bryan is a ''failure'' for keeping ratings normal in an otherwise declining environment, how can we rate Roman, during which ratings went down at 4x the speed of normal yearly decline rate?

BTFO again.

The thing is, I do not only prove that he's wrong, I also prove that he's intentionally biased against Bryan and blatantly lying.

Also, him is you.
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>>2715845
If Bryan's numbers are wrong, good chance the others performers numbers are wrong also don't you think?

The chart also says Bryan's last RAW as champ was June 2nd when it was actually June 9th. Yet ANOTHER mistake.

You FAIL yet again.
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>>2715554
>"one year", HOUSE show (which means only smarks went there because for years now only smarks cared about House Shows)
>anti-smarks BTFO
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>>2715554
>house shows
>casuals
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>>2715838
Oh and btw look at the dishonesy.
He claims Bryan was being pushed in Feb 2014, which is blatantly false. Batista had won the Royal Rumble and was being pushed in the main event instead of Bryan, causing the fans revolt, to the point WWE was forced to bow down.

The card of WM 30 was changed in the last few weeks before mania and that's when Bryan got pushed.

So yeah, completely dishonest argument by Wolfcuc, but you are a well known liar, so nothing new.

Also interesting how you refuse to address that the biggest collapse in ratings in the last 15 years happened under your big muscly guy Roman Reigns (-0.45, to which we add another -0.29). But hey, whatever, keep lying to yourself. Not to us, we find out easily.
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>>2715850
They aren't.

You are such a bad liar that even if we accept your false numbers, they still prove Bryan is a draw and Roman is a flop.
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>>2715858
WORKED. TRIGGERED. SEETHING + FULL OF SHIT.

Never thought I'd see the day!
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>>2715858
http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe-raw/2013/6/27/4471160/wwe-raw-segment-ratings-for-june-24-daniel-bryans-big-main-event-win-bombs

>Finally, and this is some seriously damning stuff, but the Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton No Disqualification match that featured Bryan getting his big main event victory over one of the most protected stars on the roster gained only 104,000 viewers to a 2.92 overrun. That's downright awful, and it represents one of the worst main event numbers in a very long time.

Not even 2 months later after his big push. Cuckniel Bryan BTFO by ratings. It wasn't the first time when he destroyed a show:

http://www.cagesideseats.com/2012/1/9/2695147/smackdown-ratings-falling-with-daniel-bryan-as-champion-randy-orton
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>>2715850
The title was vacated the 9th. The chart is right.


Once again, even if we accept your argument, it still doesn't change much at all. Bryan's ratings are good. Roman's on the other side, oh boy.
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>>2715554
>no sauce

Meltzer is an autistic dipshit with no inside info
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>>2715861
Read >>2715866

And not just the title like the idiot in my pic did and exposed himself, like smarks always do.
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>>2715866
Lol, Smackdown, really?

Should I remind you that the lowest episode of Smackdown was in Dec 2015 with Roman Reigns champion and 1.15 rating?
LOL Wolfcuc LOL
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>>2715583
meanwhile, ratings and PPV buys were at all time low during that feud
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>>2715861
Just accept Daniel Bryan was an anti-draw.
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>>2715873
>Lol SMACKDOWN LOLOLOLOLOl lol lOL

Worse ratings are worse. And why don't you comment on the main point on fhtat post and raw ratings not even 2 months after bryan was a champ xD. Sure, look away from proofs and act like they are not there :D.
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>>2715871
Lol, you got BTFO on Raw ratings and now you try Smackdown and get BTFO again.

SD always did poorly with united rosters as evidenced before, Roman Reigns in Dec 2015 got 1.15

http://www.gerweck.net/tv-ratings/2015-tv-ratings/

Lol Wolfcuc
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BASED Big Dog working the company into bankruptcy with his 1.75 ratings.
#AhhYessir
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>>2715877
Read >>2715876
Explain how the fuck did I failed on RAW ratings? Btw. >>2715866 this is my first post here you imbecile.
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>>2715875

Should we bring in all the PPVs Cena bombed?

Or Orton, who has notoriously an abysimal ppv buyrate?

1 ppv is meaningless.

Ratings were up under Bryan, stronger than tv decline. That alone makes Daniel Bryan the biggest draw since tv decline started a decade ago.

Yes, he's the biggest ratings draw in 10 years.
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>>2715867
Bryan appeared on the 9th June RAW as the champion. He didn't vacant it on the 2nd June RAW. The chart is wrong. Even Wikipedia proves I'm right as does WWE's official website.
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>>2715883
>changing "arguments" because you got BTFO in the previous one

inb4lolwolfcuck
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>>2715880
Your Raw ratings analysis blames February and March, during most of which Batista was pushed in the main event, save for the last weeks, on Daniel Bryan.

It's sheer dishonest.

The post WM30 ratings are either up compared to the previous year, or at best flat if we accept (and we do not) your argument.
Either way, if we consider an average 0.1 decline due to tv, up or flat is good, it proves Bryan is a draw, not the opposite.

SD is irrelevant as long as it has the same roster as Raw. It's the same shit, a lot less watch.

So, your Raw analysis is flawed and dishonest, your SD is irrelevant.
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>>2715728
Melzter's height is exactly why he is obsessed with vanilla midgets and tiny japs
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>>2715867 From WWE's official website

http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehistory/wwe-championship

Bryan vacated on June 9th NOT June 2nd you absolute mongaloid. Which means he appeared in June 9th RAW as champion.
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>>2715885
That's a lot of mental breakdancing you have to do to tell yourself that Cuckniel was not an anti-draw and sleep well at night, while facts stay unchanged.
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>>2715883
Wolfpac in your head 4 life rent free
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is wolfpac a draw? lets discuss
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>>2715665
>join Aug 31,2015
>a new as fuck youtube channel nobody would know about except the person who made it immediately starts getting spammed on /asp/

hmmmmmmm
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>>2715888
Trips for truth.
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>>2715708
NEEThammer fucking HATES Nash. I wouldn't be surprised if he were most of the seethe posts about Wolfpac ITT
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>>2715882
Again, fine, let's accept your argument for the sake of it.

June 2th 2014 rating 2.92
June 9th 2.93

The average goes down by 0.1, Bryan is still the highest in 15.

There's no way you can spin this.
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>>2715888
Higher ratings than the year before.
2nd best merch seller.
Best crowd reactions since Steve Austin and The Rock.

Sorry, all the elements defining a draw are there.
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>>2715890
He makes 30$ a day stealing videos from WWE, you tell me.
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>>2715897
If Daniel Bryan's average was wrong that means likely other averages are wrong. Already said this. What is so hard to understand? whoosh over your head
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>>2715900
>Higher ratings than the year before.
Means nothing, only for a few nights, killed ratings after that (which I have proved).

>2nd best merch seller.
Proofs?

>Best crowd reactions since Steve Austin and The Rock.
Shouting "yes" is not a crowd reaction. It's a word. Comparably, R-Truth had tons of "What?"s and "Whassup?"s, so R-Truth confirmed a a draw and best reactions since SCSA and TR?

Not a single element of a draw.
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>>2715887
Good, then here's your answer.
>>2715897
Bryan's rating goes from 3.15 down to 3.03

He's still the highest rated champion among the last 15 and since Rock's 2 months reign.

Far higher than Cena, Orton etc.

I told you, there's no way you can spin this.
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>>2715905
Bryan fanboys don't know what a draw is. They think crowd reaction/pop = draw

KEK
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>>2715907
Brock Lesnar, Flair, Shield vs. Evolution etc. were drawing the highest quarter hours on RAW during Bryan's reign according to Meltzer. He said in May 19, 2014 observer "Even though Bryan is champion, ever since he won the title, The Shield vs. Evolution has been portrayed as the key conflict."

Equating 3 hour raw ratings completely to individual performer is dumb.
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>>2715903
>likely
You'd have to prove that

Even if they did, they'd still be below 3.00

Bryan is above that. You can't touch him.
Especially since 2015 Roman cancer WWE goes down to 2.5 and never even comes close.

>>2715905
>Means nothing, only for a few nights, killed ratings after that (which I have proved).
Average means everything. Roman's average is -0.45, the worst ever.


>Proofs?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1991258-wwe-news-daniel-bryans-merchandise-sales-confirm-hes-an-a-player
http://www.wrestlingforum.com/general-wwe/1962409-daniel-bryan-number-2-merch-seller-2015-according-dave-meltzer.html

Go cry.

>Shouting "yes" is not a crowd reaction. It's a word. Comparably, R-Truth had tons of "What?"s and "Whassup?"

This coming from a guy that tries to spin the crowd chanting ''get the fuck out to Roman' as ''he's over''.

You get the fuck out with your dishonesty.
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>>2715554
>it's a constant of the biz
Cringe. Who does this fat neckbeard think he is?
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>>2715902
report his channel
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>>2715912
The same Meltzer that confirmed Daniel Bryan is a draw.

Actually, let's end this:

Breakdowns:
>WWE NEWS: Raw TV quarter-hour ratings - Daniel Bryan draws big numbers post-Mania, plus very detailed report on the other segments that boosted Raw
http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_77624.shtml#.WTJ8xMYlFPZ

> Monday's WWE Raw TV rating was boosted by three distinct peaks. And, like before WrestleMania, Daniel Bryan was the top draw of the show.
http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_78083.shtml#.WTJ8x8YlFPZ

> WWE NEWS: Raw TV quarter-hour ratings - details on Daniel Bryan retaining top position, how other segments fared
http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_78252.shtml#.WTJ8ysYlFPZ

Week after week.

You have been unequivocally exposed as a liar.
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>>2715914
>dishonesty

please expand your vocabulary
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>>2715920
>went through trouble of posting links which nobody go on

Autistic as fuck
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>>2715921
I don't need to. You might think I'm insulting you, but that's merely a statement.

If I was insulting you, I'd call you a retard.

What I'm doing is simply demolishing one by one your lies.

And this one:

>>2715920
Settles it.


You claimed ''ratings were down under Bryan', false.
The you chaned that claim and claimed ''Bryan's segments weren't highly rated'' false.
You claimed he didn't sell merchanside, false.
You claimed he wasn't a draw. False.


Go seek therapy because you can't accept a manlet was a bigger wrestling draw than big muscly guys and you have to make up lies to deny it.
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>>2715924
Aww, so you get BTFO epically on every single claim of yours and I'm autistic?

I'll take autistic, you are still BTFO.
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>>2715931
Wrong on everything you said. You're a lost cause. Beyond deluded.
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It is absolutely astounding that some fat NEETs out there sit researching and arguing over fucking ratings like they personally have stock in the company
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>>2715932
SEETHING
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>>2715935
>n-no UR WRONG FUCK U
>evidence? what's that?
Lmao
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>>2715936
it's only because how much you draw is the only way to judge your favorite wrestlers success

it's not a real sport there is no way to work out who is the best
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>>2715914
>This coming from a guy that tries to spin the crowd chanting ''get the fuck out to Roman' as ''he's over''.
Where the fuck did I say that? Stop projecting. I think Roman is as ratings killer as Bryan is. Well Roman could improve if he could act and talk better, Bryan was never redeemable.
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>pretending anything in the WWE was a draw in the last 4 or so years.
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I've never listened to Meltzer until I started seeing some meme text of his convos with Brian and holy shit he really is that autistic. Alvarez makes a point, Dave says no you're wrong it's this, he points out that's exactly what he said when suddenly
>w-w-well you know yeah no but you see the thing is
And he deflects like holy shit has he ever gotten laid?
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>>2715610
Why do you need to trust either one? The numbers were given and Meltzer was exposed ONCE AGAIN.

HE'S
A
FUCKING
FRAUD
AND
AN
AUTISTIC
JOKE
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>>2715941
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>>2715949
did this really happen?

>horseface calling other humans barnyard animals
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>>2715796
Is this what you have to do to discredit someone who assblasted your hero? You're almost as pathetic as Meltzer when he tries to justify his shit opinion
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>>2715554 The absolute state of the ULTIMATE anti-draw
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>>2715853
It's a fucking idiotic statement anyway since KO vs Zayn weren't even going up against any big muscular guy programs at other shows.

This is the truth to what he said. In a roster full of manlets, through all the house shows, Owens vs Zayn did the best. A pathetic draw regardless of whoever else they beat out that year.

It's not like those two outdrew another house show program of Brock vs Taker or Brock vs Reigns, or Cena vs Reigns. None of those matches ever happened at house shows.
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>>2715957
But they didn't draw the best. Sami vs. Owens didn't headline one house show. Online triple threats featuring Ambrose or Rollins + two of the cards those triple threats were on featured Brock Lesnar.

Source: WON - Jan 2nd 2017
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>>2715968
Yes, I read the topic we're in.

I was trying say, even without the rebuttals from wolf, or anyone, it was already an idiotic statement TO BEGIN WITH, even if it were true.

Being a top draw when there is no Big Man vs Big Man programs to compare it to, does not mean little guys can OUTDRAW big men. Magoo is wrong as usual, using his retard logic. Understand?
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>>2716000
>Being a top draw when there is no Big Man vs Big Man programs to compare it to, does not mean little guys can OUTDRAW big men.

Big men alone don't draw shit either.

It has to be a convincing and interesting feud.
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>>2716009
Not true. Historically the big guy have always been the big draw. Whether strongman in circus or heavyweight boxing or Japanese wrestling or territories days. One or two exceptions in recent years doesn't change that.
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>>2716000
You're right. I assumed you didn't read the through topic. I apologise.
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>>2716042
The by far biggest UFC draw is 5'9.

The biggest drawing boxer of all time is 5'8.

Big men CAN draw big, but that demands far more than just being big.
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>>2716042
Oh yeah, and the biggest draw in Japan (relatively speaking at least) was 5'9.
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>>2716067
Japan is in toilet compared to glory days.

Okada and muscle guy Tanahasi are 5'9?
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>>2716061
Exceptions not rules. You know it as well.
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>>2716074
>"was"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rikid%C5%8Dzan
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>>2715956
>his shirt is a cartoon goat

It's a wonder how he even placed second against Cena on merch sales at all.
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>>2715951
You know horses hate goats.
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>>2716075

So, the biggest draws are all exceptions? Okay...any other stuff that proves you wrong and doesn't follow your narrative so you simply want to disregard without any counter argument?
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>>2716067
Excuse me you said "was"

The biggest draws in Japan were Lou Thesz, Inoki, Baba, Andre, Hansen, Hogan etc,. all 6'2 and above.

RIkidiozan is exception and even then he was thick bloke (250lbs) not small and weak like Bryan.
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>it's a wolfcuck spergs out thread
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>>2716078
cough *inoki*
cough *baba*

I'll could name 5 big men draws for everyone of your legit small men draws.
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>>2716085
based
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>>2716085
>more like Wolfpac works Bryan cocksuckers into a shoot thread
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>>2716096
wolfy you might as well get a tripcode at this point
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>>2716097
It would help if I was him. Other people in this thread also been accused of being him because I didn't make those comments.
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>>2716099
okay wolfy
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>>2716102
WORKED
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>>2716089

Never said they don't draw, but being smaller doesn't prevent people from being big draws and being big doesn't automatically makes you a draw (as /asp/ loves to point out regarding taker for example).
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Meltzer Magoo BTFO by some random internet fucks yet again. Maybe he really is blind....
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>>2715952
You have been proven wrong on every single of your claim.

Even worse, in some cases even when you accept your claims, you are still wrong.

Moving the goal posts from ''ratings were down'' to ''Bryan segments were down'' and being exposed as a fraud on both claims .
>>2716075
Sure that's why the other big UFC draw is ... a woman.

And the big wrestling draws of the last decade are Cm Punk, Daniel Bryan and Jeff Hardy, not Randy Orton, Roman Reigns and Drew McIntyre.

It's pretty hilarious seeing you defending a philosophy that hasn't worked since the 80s and killed WCW in the 90s.
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>believe dat Bryan segments rated poorly
>evidence is posted that they topped every episode

>you are autistic!!!!


great rebuttal from wolfcuc, that's going to make me believe his crap even further
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>>2715914
>WrestlingForum
absolute state of trying to pass this off as evidence
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>Dave Meltzer is the most established wrestling journalist of all time
>Wolfcuc is a 50 year old NEET who is still butthurt WCW lost the Monday night war.

Gee, who to believe?
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>>2716565
Chris Harrington numbers not Dave Meltzer.
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>>2716491
>Twisting and embellishing things to fit narrative.

Only in certain demos.
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owens vs zayn being a top drawing house show program is just an indictment on the current product. look at how in the dumps the ratings are.
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>>2716594
It wasn't the top drawing house show feud. Exposed in this thread.
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>>2716565
Nothing more embarrassing in the IWC than a person who believes what Dave Meltzer tells you think. This wolf guy actually challenges Meltzer's bullshit claims. I can respect that.

Still you should believe neither and come to conclusion yourself. Instead you come off as a drone who believes the narrative he's been saturated with.

"I wanted to slash my wrists after watching Omega vs. Okada. Meltzer gave it 6 stars...anything that he reports as facts is facts, but his opinions...weeds legal in California now." - Jim Cornette (star rating originator)

Two types of people in this world: sheep & shepherds. Guess which one you are.....wolves eat sheep.
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Boxing got smart and has made the most money from smaller guys like Mayweather, Pacquio, and De La Hoya.

UFC has also done the same with Mighty Mouse, McGregor, and in the past GSP/Silva. Even the light heavyweights are the size of vanilla midgets.

Yet WWE is still the only one with a big body fetish. It's 2017, at this point even the most retarded person knows that very big guys aren't necessarily giving the viewers the most interesting and athletic display of talent.
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There is no such thing as a "house show program" that draws.

People see the WWE is coming to town and look to see who is on the card and that is it. No one looks up the actual matches to be expected.
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>>2716690
Well the way house shows are usually promoted is having the main event take up the majority of the ad space. But you're right in saying most people just go because thats a wwe show they can afford to go see.

But meltzer is still cherry picking one example out of hundreds.
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>>2716657
>Yet WWE is still the only one with a big body fetish. It's 2017, at this point even the most retarded person knows that very big guys aren't necessarily giving the viewers the most interesting and athletic display of talent.

The thing is, that the WWE doesn't have weight classes.

Floyd vs. a Heavy Weight would be something different as well.
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>>2716690

The guys on the house show play a part, though.

If they are boring and if their TV program is shit, less people will want to see it.
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>>2716079
Probably the YES! shirts are the only ones that sold like crazy
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>>2716690
WWE tours with two crews & has done since 2002. Currently Reigns is the main guy in the promotion of the A house shows, and Orton is the main guy in promotion of B house shows.

So you're WWE brand is main draw but top acts do help numbers. When Cena and Lesnar appear on cards numbers increase by good percentage.
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>>2716629
>This wolf guy actually challenges Meltzer's bullshit claims. I can respect that.
He (you) has posted his ''challenging'' ideas in this thread. He got exposed as a liar.

You trust a proven liar? Lol
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>>2716587

Third time you move a goalpost. Lol.

''Hey I got proven wrong the first 5 times, but trust me on this one''. Not worthy.
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>>2716706
That's like saying that Stone Cold isn't a good merch seller because he only sold ''Austin 3:16'' t-shirts


Fucking idiot.
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>>2716727
>>2716730
samefag
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>>2716730
Just found your comments on Reddit while googling. KYS
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>anti-smarks idolise a 53 year old NEET geordie
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>>2716743
>redditfags of /asp smarks worked by BASED Geordie Wolfpac
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>>2716735
>projecting this hard
Where did I say Bryan wasn't a good merch seller? I'm only assuming people buyed the YES! shirt more since that goat shirt looks horrible in comparison and by itself
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>Reminder: Daniel Bryan's retirement lost 537,000 viewers.
Anti-Draw indeed.
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>>2716736
Yes.

>>2716741
Nope, don't post on reddit.


And even if I did, it really wouldn't make your argument any less false.
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>>2716774
>3rd highest episode of the year
>lost viewers

LOL
Meanwhile Roman is dead at minus 1.7 million
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>>>2716774
Bryan also failed on PPV
e.g.

SummerSlam 2012 Cena vs Punk vs Big Show (392,000) > SummerSlam 2013: Bryan vs. Cena (332,000 buys)

NOC 2012: Cena vs. Punk (207,000) > NOC 2013: Bryan vs. Orton (196,000)

Battleground 2013: Bryan vs. Orton (119,000) also one of lowest drawing WWE PPV's in history.

McMahon actually had to apologise to shareholders for these atrocious numbers.
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This is the most autistic thread currently on /asp/ and that's REALLY saying something
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>>2716804
Implying The Rock and Cena didn't have a couple of abysimal buyrates in the previous years as well. Bad argument.

Bryan's merch sales were terrific to the point he was second in 2015 as well despite wrestling for only 2 months.

His ratings are better than anyone else immediately before and after.

Everyone from Stone Cold Steve Austin to Vince Russo said that the connection Bryan had with fans hadn't been seen in a WWE ring for a decade.
One bad ppv is really evidence of nothing.
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>>2715554
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>>2716858
All just to prove whether X is who of Y size is a draw or not.
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>>2715554
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>>2715554
Owens vs Zayn was in Montreal. Of course it would draw.
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>>2716702
Super fights are a thing my man.
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>>2715554
assuarances tias
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>>2715708
CRINGE
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