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Which Kliq member had the biggest impact on pro wrestling?

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What's your opinion /asp/?
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HHH by far
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Kevin nash by miles
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I mean, Triple H is objectively the right answer, doesn't matter if you like what he did or how he did it.
>X-Pac
lol
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How do you justify Sean Waltman on that list?
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>>2663160
He's in the Kliq
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Well, Triple H basically runs the entire thing, but Shawn influenced more guys, so it depends on how you want to look at it.
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>>2663250
I would say Shawn, besides Triple H will rig this poll
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>>2663144
big sexy
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WOW this is hard desu...

1. Kevin Nash
2. Shawn Michaels
3. Triple H (will probably eventually surpass HBK)
4. Scott Hall (massively impacted business but demons prevented him from doing more)
5. Sean Waltman
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>>2663144
Xpac did. He opened the door for vanilla midgets in the WWE
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Shawn
>ability
>look
>vision

Nash
>look
>vision

Hall
>look

Waltman
>ability

Triple H
>ability
>look
>spineless ass kicking shameless manipulative sycophant

Clearly Paul is the winner
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>>2663144
Pretty glad Scott Hall surpassed Nash.
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>>2663144
It says biggest impact, not best. Gotta admit it's HHH.
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>>2663284
>Glad a bunch of marks voted Hall over Nash on a subject 99.5 percent probably not qualified to have educated opinion.
I'm a big fan of both but when history is written by historians Nash > Hall.
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HHH easily
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>>2663358
Not agreeing or disagreeing, but when history is written by historians in 30 years, will Sheamus > Miz?
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>>2663144
More important question: Which Kliq member had the biggest influence on Impact Wrestling?
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>>2663144
Haitch is single handedly killing the business so him.
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1- HHH
2- Shawn
3- Hall
4- Nash
5- Waltman
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1 - Nash - Top guy pretty much everywhere he went
2 - HHH - Pretty much runs WWE now
3 - Shawn - The best wrestler on the list, inspired the indie shit nowadays
4 - Hall - Janetty to Nash's HBK
5 - XPac - Pah.
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>>2663278
This isn't about ability or look, it's about impact on the business.

Also for the record Scott Hall is regarded as being one of the smartest guy in the industry & arguably a top 5 big man worker in history.
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>>2663144
> reached pinnacle of industry in only 4 years
> paved way for VKM offering guaranteed money for the boys
> major superstar
> big money draw
> booked greatest ever wrestling angle
> made wrestling cool
> changed perception of giants
> WCW booker
> kept vanilla midgets in check
> successful in Hollywood helping change bad stigma wrestlers have

Kevin Nash #1
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>>2663144
Nashs quad, easily
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>>2663532
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DX sold more merch than NWO, and Nash wasn't the biggest member of NWO in the first place.
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What was Hall's impact on the business? Pls no bully.
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>>2663884
Nash and bischoff credit hall for a lot of the outsiders antics and the way matches finished. He was the brains. When he was coherent anyway.
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>>2663890
Nice.
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>>2663884
Courtesy of nWoWolfpacTV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SYrsWu6Ys4
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>Hall claimed he pitched the idea of aScarface-like character during a meeting withVince McMahonandPat Patterson, as a joke.[7]Hall quoted lines from the film with a Cuban accent and gave ideas forvignettesthat would recreate several of the film's scenes, such as driving aroundSouth Floridain aconvertiblewith aleopard-skininterior.[7]Although taken right from the film, Hall claims McMahon and Patterson were nevertheless floored by the ideas and called him a "genius".[7]Hall later learned that neither McMahon nor Patterson had ever seen nor heard of the film, and believed that Hall was coming up with the ideas himself.

I habeeb it. Vince has been described as out of touch when it comes to anything outside of wrestling.
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>>2663144
Well, Hall & Nash were basically behind all the nWo/WCW angle (Hall pitched Crow Sting too) and changed the ways bussiness was done with wrestlers in the way of pay and such; they literally changed THE business.

X-Pac never did anything great, maybe being a precursor of flippy shit but that's pushing it a lot.

Shawn (and HHH to a lesser extent) was the one to push the boundaries in 1997 WWF with DX being as lewd, gay and drunk as possible in every segment in an attempt to be as cool as the nWo at the time, so you could say he changed the direction of the company too, or rather being the subject test of that change.

HHH practically runs WWE today with Vince and is responsible in a way or another for everything that happened with the company, be it NXT, WWE or the indies they work with.

It's hard but:
HHH>Nash≈Hall>Shawn>>>>>>>>>>>>>X-Pac
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>>2663144
>Sean Waltman
Literally who?
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>>2663358
Hi Kevin!
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>>2664031
Probably a work but X-Pac
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>>2663144
HHH runs a promotion within a promotion and he's damn close to running the parent promotion as well.

This isn't a matter of opinion at all. HHH wins. I'm looking forward to pissed off fedora tippers who can't stand the fact that HHH went over their little midcard hero 15 years ago trying to explain away facts.
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>>2663144
i think it's weird that x-pac is even included in nwo/kliq history, it seems like they just shoehorn him in.
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>>2663387
>Actually was in TNA
Nash, Hall, Pac

>Never was in TNA
HBK, HHH

So uh... probably Nash
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Shawn easily (best wrestler, best matches, biggest draw, most influential for younger wrestlers, put over Austin at WM14 starting Attitude Era, was in first ever HIAC match with Taker, was in first ever ladder match with Razor, won the Royal Rumble after entering first, won the rumble two years in a row, best feud of his generation with Bret, had an hour long iron man match that saved WM, GOAT Wrestlemnia entrance, GOAT 2nd run from 2002 (matches w/ Taker, Angle, Cena, Jeircho, Flair)-, main attraction of DX, literally created the Jannetty meme by superkicking Marty threw a window, won every title in WWE including European, IC, tag, WWE)
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Hall and Nash started the attitude era, the biggest era in wrestling history.

HBK was an anti-draw with good matches.

HGH sucks but runs NXT and works at WWE.
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>>2663144
HBK. Every single young wrestler looks up to him and say he inspired them.
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>>2665365
Exactly why he's the worst. Now we have all these flippy faggots. At least we got Tanahashi.
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1- HHH because by now he almost runs WWE
2- HBK, you can argue he ties Haitch as wrestler but post wrestling career he's out, HHH still runs the business
3- Hall, innovator like HBK, first NWO guy, first heel that was so cool he had to be turned face by the crowd
4- Nash, his 95 abysimal title reign will be always there to remind he was a flop. Still NWO original and he drew there
5- X-Pac responsible for the x-pac heat term, now passed to Roman, never drew a dime, he got jobs out of being friends with the other 4
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>>2665263

HBK was never a huge draw.

So what if HBK did the job for Austin? It was Mike Tyson's involvment at WM 14 that propelled Austin into superstardom. So w

HBK was in first ever HIAC match? what does that even mean in grand scheme of things?

HBK's feud with Bret being the best is subjective opinion as is most of your argument.

HBK had huge impact on the business in terms of influencing the style of wrestling & smaller wrestlers but apart from that I'm struggling to think of what else?

Kevin Nash on other hand
> helped get McMahon to sign Austin & Foley
> drew money
> at forefront of coolest, most popular & socially acceptable era
>catalyst that sparked WCW's ratings dominance over WWF
> lead to WCW becoming the #1 promotion in the world
> give the kick up the backside WWF needed to create the Attitude Era.
> Booked nWo angle
> influential behind pro wrestling's shift to more reality based content.
> revolutionised the concept of the cool heel
> WCW merchandised nWo, heel fans were encouraged - it was pioneering
> helped get guaranteed money for the boys
> helped increase pay scale of industry
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Impact and Influence are Trips and Shawn, respectively.

However Nash and Hall had by far the greatest contribution.
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