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I've recently started to watch the product once again, and have made it all the way up to this Old School Raw!

What's the deal with this Roman guy?? He looks fucking strong as shit, and has a great look to to him.
He's destroying this Punk guy.

Without spoiling the future for me, just give me a hint at what happens with this Roman dude.
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>>2491064
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Shitty bait thread, sage
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>>2491070
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I'm so glad Punk left. He looks like such shit and he is a poor wrestler. Typical of unathletic guys. Hopefully he never returns.
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>>2491075
And yet he drew way more than BASED BIG DAWGGG
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He's finna based and gets the loudest reaction
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cringe ya seething noodleheads finna kys
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>>2491099
Yet he drew less than Kevin Nash. Punk killed wrestling by popularising skinnyfat indy geeks and giving obese internet smarks a voice.
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>looks strong

Yeah. He does *look* strong.

>>2491075
>unathletic

At least he could get heavyweights up for his moves.
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>>2491111
It must be so hard to hold 250lbs on your shoulders :'(
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>>2491117
Reminder that Reigns didn't even try a Samoan Drop against Undertaker.

>>2491107
Punk outdrew Nash by fucking leagues.

>giving smarks a voice

I thought that was Steve Austin.
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>>2491138
>Reminder that Reigns didn't even try a Samoan Drop against Undertaker.
Because he isn't strong. Samoans are big and weak.
>Punk outdrew Nash by fucking leagues.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *breathes in* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
By what metric?
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>>2491152
All of them.
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>>2491197
You need to get a clue, my friend. Punk was an anti-draw.
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>mfw back when The Shield debuted I was convinced Roman would be an awesome singles star one day

God, Seth and Dean did such a good job protecting him and covering up his awfulness.
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>>2491152
Pretty cringe brother
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>>2491266
Punk marks out in full force
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>>2491201
>"get a clue"

The numbers don't lie.
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>>2491340
And they spell disaster for Punk marks.
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>product
I really need to filter this to be honest
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>>2491355
Too bad you haven't presented any.

Would you like to compare attendance for the Wrestlemanias they headlined as WWE World Champion?
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>>2491362
We could if Punk headlined a Wrestlemania.
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>>2491368
>28 & 29

Dodging.
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>>2491381
Weren't those Rock and Cena?
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>>2491388
Headlining is not just main eventing.

But with that said: he main evented as many Wrestlemanias as Nash. ;^)
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>>2491393
headline
[hed-lahyn]
noun
the largest such heading on the front page, usually at the top.

So where is Punk on this poster?
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>>2491053 Roman develops a special technique called Strong Style.
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>>2491406
Probably same place Dieseletty was on the Wrestlemania 11 poster. ;^)
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>>2491456
So you've abandoned your desire to compare Wrestlemania then?
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>>2491458
nope

>XI: 16,305
>XXVIII: 78,363

Nash literally played 3rd wheel to Bam Bam Bigelow and Lawrence L.T. Taylor KEK
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>>2491474
And Punk wasn't even important to the show. It was Rock v Cena. Nobody paid to watch Punk wrestle... Jericho? I don't know, neither of those guys ever drew a dime. Just look at Punk's house show numbers when Cena wasn't there.
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>>2491053
>watch the product
Mark
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>>2491489
>he still hasn't figured out that any argument he makes about Punk applies even moreso to Nash
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>>2491514
I never claimed Nash headlined a Wrestlemania, you brought that up and got BTFO on it.
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>>2491535
Who got BTFO?

>Punk lost his main event to 2 icons
>Diesel lost his main event to Vader's Jannetty and a handegger

btw: PPV buyrates, on average, trended up during Punk's reign.
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>>2491541
Is that why Summerslam was down almost 100,000 buys from 2010 when Punk was in the main event?
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>>2491589
>during Punk's reign

No it probably wasn't why.
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>>2491610
Which PPVs went up, then?
Punk was champion at Summerscam by the way.
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>>2491644
The 434 day reign, dummy.

>Wrestlemania
>Extreme Rules
>Over the Limit
>No Way Out
>SummerSlam
>Night of Champions
>Hell in a Cell
>Royal Rumble
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>>2491660
Compare the buyrates, then.
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>>2491209
During SHIELD days I was sure it will be

>Seth being a pretty damn good high flyer
>Roman being the really good powerhouse
>Dean being good on the mic I guess

I was so wrong
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>>2491668
Fucker I ain't copy and pasting from the articles I just checked. Read Wiki yourself. I'm not doing your homework for you.
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>>2491053
>le pretending to be a returning fan meme
Ebig
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>>2491699
Not so confident now, are you?
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>>2491733
>5 seconds of Googling

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1471478-wwe-review-of-2012-how-successful-were-wwe-ppvs-over-the-last-year

Eat shit.
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>>2491750
I'm not clicking on that. Past the actual buyrates, not some clickbait site.
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>>2491765
>give me information
>I'm not clicking on that
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>>2491776
Archive it or paste it. Just highlight the article. I'm not giving them views.
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>>2491790
You're a schmuck.

>Wrestlemania
>2011: 1124K
>2012: 1219K

>Extreme Rules
>2011: 216K
>2012: 271K

Over the Limit
>2011: 145K
>2012: 172K

No Way Out
>2011: 176K (Capitol Punishment)
>2012: 200K

>SummerSlam
>2011: 311K
>2012: 392K

Night of Champions:
>2011: 169K
>2012: 207K

Hell in a Cell
>2011: 182K
>2012: 207K

Royal Rumble
>2012: 483K
>2013: 579K
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>>2491796
>Wrestlemania
Rock vs Cena

>Extreme Rules
Cena vs Lesnar

>Over the Limit
Cena vs Ace

>No Way Out
Cena vs Show

>SummerSlam
Lesnar vs Triple H

>Night of Champions:
Punk vs Cena

>Hell in a Cell
Punk vs Ryback

>Royal Rumble
Punk vs Rock

So from this we see 1 PPV where Punk was the lead draw in the match (Hell in a Cell) and it had the lowest growth of any event. He was the worst draw in this period I'd say. Lesnar, Cena, and Rock were the draws. Punk was a passenger.
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>>2491848
>Ace
>Show
>drawing

IT'S A NEW LOW FOR ANTI-SMARKLETS YES IT IS

Also: the main event for the majority of those shows was not announced before showtime.
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>>2491862
No, Ace and Show are like Punk. They are carried by Cena, who is the actual draw.
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>>2491075
I unironically agree. toward the end of his run you could tell he had mailed it in and didn't care about anything anymore if you know what I mean.
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>>2491878
>guy who gets pushed for the better part of a decade is a bigger push that Vince eventually relented into pushing

REALLY
MAKES
YOU
THINK

Either way: doesn't look too good for your "anti-draw" theory, eh sport?
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>>2491899
It does, actually. He essentially lost almost 20k viewers on a PPV that outdrew every secondary PPV except Extreme Rules in 2011. So he is an anti-draw.
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>>2491918
>viewers
>PPV

I'd ask what show you're referring to but you clearly don't have any clue what you're talking about.

At least you're finally getting some exercise with these mental gymnastics.
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>>2491927
The one Punk headlined without a top draw, Hell in a Cell. The one that lost 20k BUYS from NoC. But you've clearly given up if you're resorting to semantic arguments.
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>>2491936
>Punk is an anti-draw because he had to defend against Ryback

But it gained buys on the previous year despite not having Cena on the card.

Speaking of the previous year...it was up 21K BUYS over the previous month.

Guess who got added to the WWE Title match between those PPVs?
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>>2491946
>But it gained buys on the previous year despite not having Cena on the card.
In a year that was up. But it lost 20k from NoC.
>Speaking of the previous year...it was up 21K BUYS over the previous month.
But you won't mention the fact that Summerslam was down 100k because of Punk.
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>>2491962
>>2491946
Will you two just fuck already?
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>>2491962
>blaming Punk for the Summerslam 2011 buyrate

Where's your proof?

>in a year that was up

Who was WWE Champ for literally that entire year?

>But it lost 20k from NoC.

Because Cena was out injured, dumbshit. You quoted this, so I know you read it.
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>>2491977
>Where's your proof?
Look it up
>Who was WWE Champ for literally that entire year?
He headlined three times, two against top draws and one not. The one against Ryback was a flop and lost 20k buys.
>Because Cena was out injured, dumbshit. You quoted this, so I know you read it.
So you agree that Cena was the draw and Punk was not?
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>>2492007
>Look it up.

So no proof.

>lost 20K buys

It gained on the previous year's show. That's like saying Night of Champions lost buys 'cause it's not SummerSlam.

>So you agree

No. Any time a top draw is not present, buyrates go down: just look at TLC 2012. ;^)
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>>2492015
>So no proof.
Not hard to find. But wallow in your idiocy if you must.
>It gained on the previous year's show. That's like saying Night of Champions lost buys 'cause it's not SummerSlam.
More like comparing it to No Way Out. Summerscam is a bigger show.
>Any time a top draw is not present, buyrates go down
Only down by <10k on a holiday show that traditionally draws poorly because H/Brock/Rock didn't appear?
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>punklets getting BTFO by BMJ
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>>2492054
>Not hard to find.

If it's so easy how come you're not doing it?

>Summerscam

Oh dear: this is you trying to be clever and funny, isn't it?
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ITT

NeetHammer tries to pretend to be casual once again.


Casuals don't like Roman. WWE has lost viewers in the last 2 years.
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>>2492104
>If it's so easy how come you're not doing it?
Use wikipedia.
>Oh dear: this is you trying to be clever and funny, isn't it?
18+

Good to see you have nothing left. Maybe you can go to a CM Punk event now? He's such a draw after all. I'm sure everyone is clambering to see him.
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>>2492129
>Use wikipedia

KEK

>18+

Oh by all means, enlighten me on what ancient meme "Summerscam" is.

>clambering

I believe you meant "clamouring".
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>>2492147
>KEK
Then don't.
>Oh by all means, enlighten me on what ancient meme "Summerscam" is.
If you were around in the 90s you'd know.
>I believe you meant "clamouring".
What a geek. Since when did nu-males become wrestling fans?
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>>2492173
>Google "Summerscam"
>get Scott Keith articles

holy shit fucking kill yourself
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>>2492185
Who's Scott Keith?
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>>2492191
An obsolete joke who's still more relevant than you cuckmarlow
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>>2492235
That makes us giants compared to anti-draw Cuck Man Phil.
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>>2492250
It's not your fault he left.
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>>2492293
It was the low ratings.
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>>2492336
>Punk leaves WWE
>ratings go down the tubes

It really makes you think...
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>>2492372
>Punk gets pushed
>ratings go down
Hmmm.
>Punk leaves but is replaced by more skinny geeks
>ratings continue to fall, faster now because the vets who propped up Punk, Miz, Sheamus etc. are gone now
Hmmm

Maybe people don't want to watch skinny, weak nerds flip around the ring like autists pretending to be in an anime.
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>>2492397
>Roman Reigns wins the Royal Rumble
>ratings crash to "losing to WCW" numbers
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>>2492415
Because Roman is a weak, skinny geek just like Punk, Rollins, Bryan, and Zayn.
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>>2492424
Could be worse.

They could be HBGay.
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>>2491138
didn't he open up with a samoan drop?
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>>2492431
Michaels almost killed the WWF. Total anti-draw.
Honky Tonk Man said it the best, "If you weren't Vince's boy-toy you'd be gone".
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>>2492447
Do you even like anybody or can you only be contrarian?
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>>2492467
I like Brock Lesnar out of the current wrestlers. The best in the 90s were Vader, Nash, Austin, Rick Rude, Undertaker, Lex Luger and Scott Steiner.
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>>2492501
>Nash

kek
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>>2492517
Ask Mike Graham, Nash drew. He was cool unlike the comic book reading, video game playing, vegan, anti-alcohol, steroid free geeks of today.
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