Is this true?

>>2344942
Yes, only Hogan cucks would deny the truth and that's the bottom line cause Stone Cold said so!

>even doubting this for a bit
GTFO hogan cucks

I'm under the impression that while Austin peaked higher, Hogan was a huge star much longer. Austin's peak was 97-01 and he has undeniably faded away from the mainstream.

Hogan was the biggest face of the 80's and the biggest heel of the 90's, and played a major role in causing the two biggest booms in wrestling history. He's also one of the few to transcend wrestling and get into the mainstream, and he is the guy people who've never watched wrestling think of when asked about it.

>>2345055
Austin/Rock peaked higher. Austin just went out of the limelight and did not really pursue mainstream all that much, and look how big Rocky is now. Hogan's last time on the limelight was a fucking sex tape scandal

>>2345062
Rock is kind of a whole different thing at this point, I don't even think many people care that he was a wrestler anymore. He's much harder to gauge, honestly.

>>2344942
austin was THE wrestler from 1996-2004... hogan was from like 197X-199X

Hogan is still a bigger wrestling star than Austin due to longevity alone

I don't blame them for pushing Austin as the bigger star now, though......since Hogan's name is associated with racism now

>>2345079
austin's gimmicks have aged better though, can't deny that.

having highly animated moves VS pretending to have post hit invincibility.

>>2345079
>2004

Holy kek

You mean 1997-2001

I see more Austin 3:16 shirts than Hulkamania shirts around so yeah sure why not.

>>2345089
i was trying to be liberal to his side not accurate.

point remains that hogan was a top guy for decades. the last of his kind.

the rock could have done it but he chose to be an actor instead.

one could argue cena for longevity, but wrestling just isnt what it was in austin and hogans era.

Yes, anyone arguing otherwise is dumb. Austin drew the most in WWF/E history

However, Hogan drew in 3 other promotions (NJPW, AWA, WCW) and did so for fifteen more years. That's what people argue. And the "Austin could have done the same if his neck didn't get fucked" isn't really a good argument because his heel turn killed him

Everyone knew who Stone Cold Steve Austin was because Celebrity Deathmatch was a big, heavily advertised show on MTV at the time when MTV was a juggernaut

imagine your the coach of an ape hoop team

Would you rather have player A who averages 25 points per game for 20 seasons or player B who averages 35 points per game for five seasons but then gets a career ending injury and never plays again

>>2345181
For this analogy to work, player B must also be a surefire champ for those 5 years.

>>2345188
As if sports team don't often gamble the future to go into win now mode. Winning championships is what matters, not being just good for however long. Undertaker isn't the best wrestler ever just because he's been with WWE for longer than anyone else.

>>2345211
That's what I'm saying, and that's why Player B is the guy I choose

>>2345233
it's not a great analogy though, basketball is a game where 2 teams try to score the most points.

wrestling is sports entertainment where whose going to score the most points is already decided and we need someone to sell the same game 50-100 times a year.

in football you would want the guy that knows how to stay healthy.

>>2345277
Now think Monday Night Wars. WCW got player A, WWF/E gambled on player B.

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>>2344942
It depends on which time period. During the attitude era boom from 1998-2001, Austin was btfoing Hogan. But Austin cucked himself and WWE really hard with his infamous Wrestlemania 17 heel turn. So, with everyone feeling that wrestling stagnated, Hogan in 2002 was hot shit again.

>>2344942
Only hogan fans dont believe it. No one has ever gotten louder, more consistent pops than Austin, no one. It's already known he outdrew Hogan. In two fucking years. Damn good on the mic and a good wrestler to boot, it's just a shame about that botched that ruined his neck in 96.

>>2345277
buying a player that protected himself into his active 40's and 50's is not the same as picking player A from the analogy.


WCW had austin not long before his red hot WWF run, and their use for him was nothing like what happened with ECW and WWE.

Hogan could have been as good as he was in WCW in WWF, his heel turn would have sold tickets anywhere.
Austin could just as easily have ended up a mid carder in WCW, especially considering they were family friendly entertainment and most of what austin did to get over would never have flown over there.

Even Texas Rattle Snake Stone Cold Steve Austin probably wouldnt have made a splash in WCW, on some level they had that with scott steiner.

>>2345295
meant this post to be in reply to this
>>2345279

>>2345188
Well, Hogan was the top guy in the wrestling world longer than five years so he would have to have more titles as well

>>2345295
Disagree, a major reason Hogans heel turn worked is because most WCW fans hated him from the start for being the embodiment of Vince's vision for wrestling and WWF. Sure, the crowd reactions were dwindling at the end for Hogan in WWF as well but watch when he won the belt at WM9, huge pop. They tried to make him a heel when he came back in 2002 and nobody bought it. The go home show for Mania, he legdrops Rock and pins him and the place explodes. It wasn't just Toronto who cheered him

>>2345055
To be fair, Hogan had the advantage of not being overused. He wasn't on TV every week and didn't have a PPV every month. He was gone long enough to be missed, so it made it harder for his weaknesses to be exposed and for people to get sick of him. As you saw in his early WCW run, people can get sick of Hulkamania pretty quick. If hogan was as featured as Stone Cold was in his run, it's doubtful he'd have lasted as long as Stone Cold.
People begged for Hogan to turn heel when he was on weekly television. After 4 years of Stone Cold, people still weren't ready for him to stop being the top face.

>>2345062
Rock may achieved more in his life overall, with all the movies and all the stuff like that, but in the wrestling business, Austin drew more

>>2345178

Hogan was in a fucking Rocky movie, and had his own cartoon

>>2345322
Austin was never on TV during his prime, he was injured and never wrestled. and it was part of his appeal.

over exposure is the death of all of these guys, you're right about that.

Austin is the biggest star in WWF history. Hogan is the biggest wrestling star in history.

No way Austin out drew Hogan. Austin wasn't even close to the cataclyst for the MNW to shift in the WWEs favour. The Rock, Foley and HHH did more for WWE than Austin did.

Realistically, Austin only had one and arguably two good consistent runs. The rest of his work was muddled by really unintelligent booking and stupid WWF stories.

AT BEST Austin was a testament to how good of heels HHH, The Rock and Angle were. In order to cheer for a face they have to have a reason to be cheered, which in most cases was the great heel work everyone else was doing.

Hogan, while not the same level of worker, was absolutely a much bigger star. Hulk main evented EIGHT Wrestlemanias (went on last). Austin's last match at WM19 didn't even go on last because there was no appeal at the time for Austin, and given it was a face v. face match, there was no one for Austin beat up and get cheered.

Hogans stardom was enough so that WHEN HE LEFT WWF VINCE WAS ABLE TO SURVIVE THROUGH THE ABSOLUTE SHIT TIMES from Wrestlemania 11 - 16. Then he has another Wrestlemania match SEVEN YEARS SINCE HIS LAST and gets the best reaction of the night WHILE TAKING AN L and coming in to the match as a heel.

Big Dimes Steve is literally the biggest draw in history and pretty much murdered WCW by himself.

>>2345914
this

>>2345918
imagine posting this

>>2345864
I'm honestly surprised Cena hasn't had his own cartoon by now.